DVD 2.0 - Improved DVD , might be used on th e 360

what's with all the negative reactions to positive news? wtf!

this costs us consumers nothing! we dont have to buy fancy ps3's or blu ray players or hd dvd players! so i dont get where all this hate is coming from...

i am of course assuming the rumor is true

So it can work with the Xbox 360? With out me buying a new Xbox 360? Just the release games on DVD 2.0 instead. Kool I guess. As long as it doesn't cost me anymore.waynehead895

If true (and that's a pretty big if) this could be huge. It effectively kills Blu Ray as a movie format.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nameAtrumRegina

Someones scared ...I imagine this will cut into bluray sales because

1) it's cheaper

2) it's also HD ( albeit only 720p ) but you need an upconevertingg DVD player , HD-DVD ( they are like 20 bucks ) or a 360.

3) Supposedly it has extra storage space.

1. It's too late

2. 720p is not good enough

3. a few gigs just doesn't cut it.

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better namedream431ca

Someones scared ...I imagine this will cut into bluray sales because

1) it's cheaper

2) it's also HD ( albeit only 720p ) but you need an upconevertingg DVD player , HD-DVD ( they are like 20 bucks ) or a 360.

3) Supposedly it has extra storage space.

1. It's too late

2. 720p is not good enough

3. a few gigs just doesn't cut it.

The discs hold up to 24gigs on a 4 layer disc

Linky

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better namedream431ca

Someones scared ...I imagine this will cut into bluray sales because

1) it's cheaper

2) it's also HD ( albeit only 720p ) but you need an upconevertingg DVD player , HD-DVD ( they are like 20 bucks ) or a 360.

3) Supposedly it has extra storage space.

1. It's too late

2. 720p is not good enough

3. a few gigs just doesn't cut it.

1, no it's not

2/ yes it is. very few people own 1080p tvs.

3.better than nothing.

It's too little too late for any new disc format, consumers are already reluctant to buy Blu-Ray until HD is standard. Whats going to make them buy this one?Jynxzor

they don't have to buy anything !!!!

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]It's too little too late for any new disc format, consumers are already reluctant to buy Blu-Ray until HD is standard. Whats going to make them buy this one?AtrumRegina

they don't have to buy anything !!!!

Why are you so passionate? This isn't even real.

This is someone's post...lol.

Here's a post for ya, since you believe everything you read :

The 360 can play DVD 2.0 starting this fall, and it will make the games AMAZING!

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So it can work with the Xbox 360? With out me buying a new Xbox 360? Just the release games on DVD 2.0 instead. Kool I guess. As long as it doesn't cost me anymore.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]So it can work with the Xbox 360? With out me buying a new Xbox 360? Just the release games on DVD 2.0 instead. Kool I guess. As long as it doesn't cost me anymore.AtrumRegina

Nope.

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives!

Eragon_11

:)

Im also happy that it stores more gigs than normal 360 DVD's ATM. If im correct it also has "layers" so I'll be happy with the new amount of storage.

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"][QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives!

taj7575

:)

Im also happy that it stores more gigs than normal 360 DVD's ATM. If im correct it also has "layers" so I'll be happy with the new amount of storage.

lol. This isn't even real, this is someone's blog. Lol. I need to create an account there and post something, because this thread is HILARIOUS!

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nameAlbanian_Killa

Seriously are you guys this insecure?

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives! That is, we get HD video with slightly inferior quality Blu-ray, but the conventional DVD devices. All that is needed for a new video format - its updated firmware player and the opportunity to display high-resolution signal.

I'm not insecure, I'm just saying why waste money to go back to last-gen technology? What about that 500GB Blu-Ray disc that plays on conventional players? The HD video has to be played on a DVD player with HDMI that goes beyond 480p. My DVD player is 480p max. How will I Get HD video? All I'm saying is that Blu-Ray is taking off, DVD 2.0 is too late.

500 gb bluray disc? HA.

I hope you realize that those 500gb is all the layers on the bluray disc itself.

Right now, the technology can only read 1 layer, which is 25-30 gb, so dont be bragging about storage space that cant be used at the moment.

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]It's too little too late for any new disc format, consumers are already reluctant to buy Blu-Ray until HD is standard. Whats going to make them buy this one?SolidTy

they don't have to buy anything !!!!

Why are you so passionate? This isn't even real.

This is someone's post...lol.

Here's a post for ya, since you believe everything you read :

The 360 can play DVD 2.0 starting this fall, and it will make the games AMAZING!

http://www.dvdtown.com/messageboard/topic/6725/6/0mode=news&newsid=26033http://www.maxconsole.net/?

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nametaj7575

Seriously are you guys this insecure?

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives! That is, we get HD video with slightly inferior quality Blu-ray, but the conventional DVD devices. All that is needed for a new video format - its updated firmware player and the opportunity to display high-resolution signal.

I'm not insecure, I'm just saying why waste money to go back to last-gen technology? What about that 500GB Blu-Ray disc that plays on conventional players? The HD video has to be played on a DVD player with HDMI that goes beyond 480p. My DVD player is 480p max. How will I Get HD video? All I'm saying is that Blu-Ray is taking off, DVD 2.0 is too late.

500 gb bluray disc? HA.

I hope you realize that those 500gb is all the layers on the bluray disc itself.

Right now, the technology can only read 1 layer, which is 25-30 gb, so dont be bragging about storage space that cant be used at the moment.

What?! There are already 50gig Dual Layers being read on the market. Why don't you take your own advice?

BTW : How much credibility can you have when you are jumping up and down over some random guy's blog? this isn't ever real, it's a post.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nametaj7575

Seriously are you guys this insecure?

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives! That is, we get HD video with slightly inferior quality Blu-ray, but the conventional DVD devices. All that is needed for a new video format - its updated firmware player and the opportunity to display high-resolution signal.

I'm not insecure, I'm just saying why waste money to go back to last-gen technology? What about that 500GB Blu-Ray disc that plays on conventional players? The HD video has to be played on a DVD player with HDMI that goes beyond 480p. My DVD player is 480p max. How will I Get HD video? All I'm saying is that Blu-Ray is taking off, DVD 2.0 is too late.

500 gb bluray disc? HA.

I hope you realize that those 500gb is all the layers on the bluray disc itself.

Right now, the technology can only read 1 layer, which is 25-30 gb, so dont be bragging about storage space that cant be used at the moment.

False.

MGS4 alone was 33gb and guess what? That's 2 layers (upto 50gb).

Can't people see this is fake? The blog post is dated March 2008.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nametaj7575

Seriously are you guys this insecure?

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives! That is, we get HD video with slightly inferior quality Blu-ray, but the conventional DVD devices. All that is needed for a new video format - its updated firmware player and the opportunity to display high-resolution signal.

I'm not insecure, I'm just saying why waste money to go back to last-gen technology? What about that 500GB Blu-Ray disc that plays on conventional players? The HD video has to be played on a DVD player with HDMI that goes beyond 480p. My DVD player is 480p max. How will I Get HD video? All I'm saying is that Blu-Ray is taking off, DVD 2.0 is too late.

500 gb bluray disc? HA.

I hope you realize that those 500gb is all the layers on the bluray disc itself.

Right now, the technology can only read 1 layer, which is 25-30 gb, so dont be bragging about storage space that cant be used at the moment.

Current Blu-ray drives are only 1 layer? Lol, MGS4 uses 2 layer discs.

You can use firmware upgrades to increase the amount of layers your Profile 2.0 player can read.

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

Can't people see this is fake? The blog post is dated March 2008.

Jamex1987

Unfortunately, this thread is like an upcoming train wreck and we all have to watch it takes it's course.

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

Link256

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]So it can work with the Xbox 360? With out me buying a new Xbox 360? Just the release games on DVD 2.0 instead. Kool I guess. As long as it doesn't cost me anymore.SolidTy

Nope.

ARE YOU GONNA EFFIN QUIT| THAT UR ANNOYING AS HELL THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES THAT CONFIRM THIS THING EXIST. every time someone posts something about mgs people are like omg it's going ot the 360 omg . I hope they die.

also this isn't supposed to kill blu-ray just enhance current DVDs without having to replace current dvds with expensive as hell blu-rays.

Oh and to solidty : but but...it's a blog :cry: so is surfer girl and all these rumors that many times turn out to be true.

[QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better namePandaBear86

Seriously are you guys this insecure?

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives! That is, we get HD video with slightly inferior quality Blu-ray, but the conventional DVD devices. All that is needed for a new video format - its updated firmware player and the opportunity to display high-resolution signal.

I'm not insecure, I'm just saying why waste money to go back to last-gen technology? What about that 500GB Blu-Ray disc that plays on conventional players? The HD video has to be played on a DVD player with HDMI that goes beyond 480p. My DVD player is 480p max. How will I Get HD video? All I'm saying is that Blu-Ray is taking off, DVD 2.0 is too late.

500 gb bluray disc? HA.

I hope you realize that those 500gb is all the layers on the bluray disc itself.

Right now, the technology can only read 1 layer, which is 25-30 gb, so dont be bragging about storage space that cant be used at the moment.

Current Blu-ray drives are only 1 layer? Lol, MGS4 uses 2 layer discs.

You can use firmware upgrades to increase the amount of layers your Profile 2.0 player can read.

Meh my bad . All I knew was that it's around 1-2 layers that could be read.

All I was trying to say was to that guy that the 500 gb of the blu-ray cant be fully used at the moment.

[QUOTE="Link256"]

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

SolidTy

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

other sources are telling that too. go ruin another thread. on gametrailer when this guy said DVD 2 is fake he got banned !

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]So it can work with the Xbox 360? With out me buying a new Xbox 360? Just the release games on DVD 2.0 instead. Kool I guess. As long as it doesn't cost me anymore.AtrumRegina

Nope.

ARE YOU GONNA EFFIN QUIT| THAT UR ANNOYING AS HELL THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES THAT CONFIRM THIS THING EXIST. every time someone posts something about mgs people are like omg it's going ot the 360 omg . I hope they die.

also this isn't supposed to kill blu-ray just enhance current DVDs without having to replace current dvds with expensive as hell blu-rays.

Oh and to solidty : but but...it's a blog :cry: so is surfer girl and all these rumors that many times turn out to be true.

Nope.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Link256"]

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

AtrumRegina

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

other sources are telling that too. go ruin another thread. on gametrailer when this guy said DVD 2 is fake he got banned !

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Link256"]

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

AtrumRegina

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

other sources are telling that too. go ruin another thread. on gametrailer when this guy said DVD 2 is fake he got banned !

Ruin another thread? What other thread did I ruin?

Look, you got people going crazy here with nothing but a "Blog"...for all I know it's your blog.

It could be a good thing, but it wouldn't help the 360 or Wii, those are already set.

DVD 2.0 strikes me as something that Microsoft would implement into their next system instead of the 360. It'd be a bit too costly and risky for them to change their current system around that radically.nervmeister

the article says it would only need a firmware update. like the one that allowed the ps3 to read dual layered blu rays. not very costly. developing the technology on the other hand probably somewhat costly, but much better than paying sony royalties

Even as an admitted Xbox fanboy I have to say this topic is pure rubbish. Blu-ray won the format war. Now let's move on. Don't think Microsoft won't have a great format for their next system. It's coming...

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Link256"]

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

SolidTy

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

other sources are telling that too. go ruin another thread. on gametrailer when this guy said DVD 2 is fake he got banned !

Ruin another thread? What other thread did I ruin?

Look, you got people going crazy here with nothing but a "Blog"...for all I know it's your blog.

It could be a good thing, but it wouldn't help the 360 or Wii, those are already set.

you DO know that when PS3 was released, it only had Blu-ray profile 1.0 that could only read single layer BD but now has been upgraded (via firmware) and now is at profile 2.0 and can read dual layer discs? and this is the same thing that is needed for the 360 to read DVD2.0? You know that drive speed CANT be upgraded via firmware thus PS3 is stuck at 2x speed even though there are faster drives on the market? You know that ive found COUNTLESS articles confirming that DVD2.0 exists? Google is your friend!!!

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1132

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="AtrumRegina"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Link256"]

Assuming the news is true, I would say this is HUGE. Certainly do lot in the way of giving that much more life to DVD.

navyguy21

Sorry, it's just some random guys blog from MARCH 2008.

other sources are telling that too. go ruin another thread. on gametrailer when this guy said DVD 2 is fake he got banned !

Ruin another thread? What other thread did I ruin?

Look, you got people going crazy here with nothing but a "Blog"...for all I know it's your blog.

It could be a good thing, but it wouldn't help the 360 or Wii, those are already set.

you DO know that when PS3 was released, it only had Blu-ray profile 1.0 that could only read single layer BD but now has been upgraded (via firmware) and now is at profile 2.0 and can read dual layer discs? and this is the same thing that is needed for the 360 to read DVD2.0? You know that drive speed CANT be upgraded via firmware thus PS3 is stuck at 2x speed even though there are faster drives on the market? You know that ive found COUNTLESS articles confirming that DVD2.0 exists? Google is your friend!!!

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1132

Post a credible source please because I cannot find any.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=26033

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-121938.aspx

Xbit Labs

http://www.christopherprice.net/dvd-with-hdi-take-two-282.html

Amazon News

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=26033

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-121938.aspx

Xbit Labs

http://www.christopherprice.net/dvd-with-hdi-take-two-282.html

Amazon News

navyguy21

[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives!

Eragon_11

Seems to be something that Xbox 360 developers and gamers will benefit from. However, setting a new standard and going head-to-head with Blu-Ray? A little too late I reckon.ToScA-

It's an improved DVD . If anything it will replace normal DVDs . After that blu-ray will eat it , it will just happen a bit later.

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"][QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

And the most important. The new format DVD 2.0 will be compatible with conventional DVD drives!

UssjTrunks

No, it wouldn't.

Remember SVHS?

Even as an admitted Xbox fanboy I have to say this topic is pure rubbish. Blu-ray won the format war. Now let's move on. Don't think Microsoft won't have a great format for their next system. It's coming...

fanboy999

This won't help the current hardware...it could be good for DVD users.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]:lol: Toshiba again? They didn't learn? Seriously, Blu-Ray is the next disc until another one comes next generation. Blu-Ray is standard HD disc now. No company is going to back a new disc when Blu-Ray is so much more popular. DVD 2.0? LOL seriously get a better nameAtrumRegina

Someones scared ...I imagine this will cut into bluray sales because

1) it's cheaper

2) it's also HD ( albeit only 720p ) but you need an upconevertingg DVD player , HD-DVD ( they are like 20 bucks ) or a 360.

3) Supposedly it has extra storage space.

1. It's too late

2. 720p is not good enough

3. a few gigs just doesn't cut it.

1, no it's not

2/ yes it is. very few people own 1080p tvs.

3.better than nothing.

1. Blu-ray is gaining ground very fast in the movie industry and in the consumer world. DVD 2.0 couldn't even make a dent in that market.

2. LCD/Plasma TV's are becoming less expensive every month, and 1080p is quickly becoming the standard for HD movies. Did people really invest in a 1080p TV to view 720p movies with it? I sure did not.

3. Like I said before 720p is below the standard, both for consumers and the movie industry. I heard that these DVD's will hold up to 24gigs. That's great if you just want them for space requirements only, but the movie industry has set their eyes on Blu-ray.

Another note on DVD 2.0: The disk is a 4 layered disk. I could see that having issues with current DVD players, even though it is claimed to work with current DVD players. There will be problems with this and consumers will get frustrated.

One of the things that gets me confused is why didn't they do this earlier with DVDs? Maybe it's because Toshiba was trying to save it's HD-DVD business. I can tell you that this DVD 2.0 will end up like HD-DVD did.