DVD format an issue again (L.A. Noire)

I guess games will continue to be downgraded to make them fit on enough discs to avoid paying royalties to MS and for excessive disc swapping too. Maybe it'll happen ala FFXIII and we'll see a lower quality version on 360. Who knows. The only fact is that DVDs should dissapear as soon as possible. Good thing Agent is still exclusive.

http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/1955-la-noires-future-on-xbox-360-again-in-question-because-of-dvd

well thats 4 times now. thank **** for bluray

I would take anything "gofanboy" says with a grain of salt.

Especially when they don't post a source. ;)

I would take anything "gofanboy" says with a grain of salt.

Especially when they don't post a source. ;)

IronBass

Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...bobbetybob

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...RedruM_I

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...RedruM_I

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...bobbetybob

Can't they just reduce the size of the textures a bit? I would have thought that this being R* that MS might have let them off on a second disc royalty.reyad-u

Lol could you imagine "Your crossing over to the next area please insert disc 2"TintedEyes

The DVD format will cause more and more problems as this generation continues. I can understand the developers, since they can't use disc-swapping because the game is openworld, and they can't force installs, since not everyone has a HDD.

It must be frustrating for developers when they know how good the game could have been, before they had to downgrade the game to make it fit.

If the X360 was equipped with an internal HDD from the start, and MS did'nt charge extra money for use of multiple discs, the problems would be fixed. This issue is something MS can't fix with a software update.

The PS3 may be the most expencive console, but it looks like the PS3 owners have payed more to get a more future-proof and thought through console.

I just hope content isn't cut back to fit the disc like Lost Planet 2.TintedEyes

I second that notion.

I'm really getting tired of this. From GTA4 to FFXIII to Lost Planet and now this. How many major game titles are gonna be chopped down this generation due to M$ charging devs extra to go multidisc knowing full well that 99% of the time, a dev will just stick with one disc.

M$ is just afraid of gamers realizing that DVD is an obvious weakness compared to Blu-ray as a game format. And before anyone jumps on my case, you should know that John Carmack said the same thing;)

The DVD format will cause more and more problems as this generation continues. I can understand the developers, since they can't use disc-swapping because the game is openworld, and they can't force installs, since not everyone has a HDD.

It must be frustrating for developers when they know how good the game could have been, before they had to downgrade the game to make it fit.

If the X360 was equipped with an internal HDD from the start, and MS did'nt charge extra money for use of multiple discs, the problems would be fixed. This issue is something MS can't fix with a software update.

The PS3 may be the most expencive console, but it looks like the PS3 owners have payed more to get a more future-proof and thought through console.

Martin_G_N

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lol could you imagine "Your crossing over to the next area please insert disc 2"IronBass

The DVD format will cause more and more problems as this generation continues. I can understand the developers, since they can't use disc-swapping because the game is openworld, and they can't force installs, since not everyone has a HDD.

It must be frustrating for developers when they know how good the game could have been, before they had to downgrade the game to make it fit.

If the X360 was equipped with an internal HDD from the start, and MS did'nt charge extra money for use of multiple discs, the problems would be fixed. This issue is something MS can't fix with a software update.

The PS3 may be the most expencive console, but it looks like the PS3 owners have payed more to get a more future-proof and thought through console.

There is none, but there was only 5, changing discs between areas is something that will happen for as long as you play the game. That's if it does happen of course.TintedEyes

From GTA4 to FFXIII to Lost Planet and now this. How many major game titles are gonna be chopped down this generation due to M$ charging devs extra to go multidisc knowing full well that 99% of the time, a dev will just stick with one disc.

mztazmz

Eh.. how was GTAIV chopped down? And the difference in the versions of FFXIII is really minimal, if scores have something to say about it. And LP2 is not even out.

Besides, MS only charges for more than 2 DVDs.

I'd wait for a more solid source before taking this "news" to heart.

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I'm more interested to see how id's RAGE turns out from a technical standpoint, since John Carmack has noted that fully uncompressed the game data is like a terabyte.

And it will eventually have to fit on both the 50 GB of a single blu-ray and the 13.6 GB of two 360 DVD9s.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]There is none, but there was only 5, changing discs between areas is something that will happen for as long as you play the game. That's if it does happen of course.IronBass

Oh, Rockstar are just lazy devs. If they weren't so lazy i'm sure they could fit it on a DVD.AAllxxjjnn

the "lazy devs" arguement is WEAK and needs to die already.

yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)

i dunno about you, but i'd rather have the FULL game

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

The DVD format will cause more and more problems as this generation continues. I can understand the developers, since they can't use disc-swapping because the game is openworld, and they can't force installs, since not everyone has a HDD.

It must be frustrating for developers when they know how good the game could have been, before they had to downgrade the game to make it fit.

If the X360 was equipped with an internal HDD from the start, and MS did'nt charge extra money for use of multiple discs, the problems would be fixed. This issue is something MS can't fix with a software update.

The PS3 may be the most expencive console, but it looks like the PS3 owners have payed more to get a more future-proof and thought through console.

Anjunaddict

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Oh, Rockstar are just lazy devs. If they weren't so lazy i'm sure they could fit it on a DVD.mztazmz

the "lazy devs" arguement is WEAK and needs to die already.

yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)

i dunno about you, but i'd rather have the FULL game

Not a big deal in your opinion, but I'm sure many people would hate to switch discs every time they go to an area.TintedEyes

What you are sure of or not is not relevant to this discussion in any way. If mandatory installs (which take longer than swapping discs) aren't a big deal, so aren't multi-disc games.

Besides, multi-disc open world games are not something new. Story segments are usually split in the two discs, but the whole world remains in both. Meaning you only change discs in a certain part of the story, but you can explore the whole world in both discs.

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]From GTA4 to FFXIII to Lost Planet and now this. How many major game titles are gonna be chopped down this generation due to M$ charging devs extra to go multidisc knowing full well that 99% of the time, a dev will just stick with one disc.

IronBass

Eh.. how was GTAIV chopped down? And the difference in the versions of FFXIII is really minimal, if scores have something to say about it. And LP2 is not even out.

Besides, MS only charges for more than 2 DVDs.

then its obvious capcom is going to release the "cut" content from LP2 just to make money!

yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)mztazmz

then its obvious capcom is going to release the "cut" content from LP2 just to make money!TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)IronBass

You forgot that Square said that FF had content to make another game! But that was cut, I wonder why ;)RedruM_I

The DVD format will cause more and more problems as this generation continues. I can understand the developers, since they can't use disc-swapping because the game is openworld, and they can't force installs, since not everyone has a HDD.

It must be frustrating for developers when they know how good the game could have been, before they had to downgrade the game to make it fit.

If the X360 was equipped with an internal HDD from the start, and MS did'nt charge extra money for use of multiple discs, the problems would be fixed. This issue is something MS can't fix with a software update.

The PS3 may be the most expencive console, but it looks like the PS3 owners have payed more to get a more future-proof and thought through console.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mztazmz"]yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)RedruM_I

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]yeah that could fit it on one disc, if they cut content, or compress to the point of a deduction in quality(which IS what's happening with the 360 version of Rage)IronBass

You forgot that Square said that FF had content to make another game! But that was cut, I wonder why ;)RedruM_I

Yes, I understand that they can make the game world quite big on one DVD, but to make the game more alive, space is required. If they have to remove stuff that would have made the game better, the DVD is holding the developers back.Martin_G_N

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]You forgot that Square said that FF had content to make another game! But that was cut, I wonder why ;)IronBass

That's plausible but another plausible explanation is that they already had the game on 3 discs for the 360. They would have had to pay extra to put it on other discs and probably compress it even further lowering the quality even more.RedruM_I

I really dont care bout disc size, i have a ps3 and want to play this game badly so just release the dam thing. If it means a cutback version for the 360 then so be it, owners of the console only have MS to blame for it and no amount rantin in internet forum is ever gon change that im afraid.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lol could you imagine "Your crossing over to the next area please insert disc 2"TintedEyes

Wheres the source? gofanboy gives no source.

it was posted at 10-11 last night...yet no other site has picked it up.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]Lol could you imagine "Your crossing over to the next area please insert disc 2"IronBass

You don't go back and forth through chapters, but you might through areas :PII_Seraphim_II

Right. But unless done horribly wrong (which would be the dev's fault, not DVD's), there's no reason for that to be a problem.

Multi-disc open world games have been done right before.

I just hope content isn't cut back to fit the disc like Lost Planet 2.TintedEyes

Yes, just wait until all of that 'cut content' is released as DLC and/or Expansions in order to make Capcom even more $ on LP2. Then one will certainly be left questioning if this was not the plan from the get go.;)