DVD format an issue again (L.A. Noire)

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]I just hope content isn't cut back to fit the disc like Lost Planet 2.ironcreed

Yes, just wait until all of that 'cut content' is released as DLC and/or Expansions in order to make Capcom even more $ on LP2. Then one will certainly be left questioning if this was not the plan from the get go.;)

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]I just hope content isn't cut back to fit the disc like Lost Planet 2.SaltyMeatballs

Yes, just wait until all of that 'cut content' is released as DLC and/or Expansions in order to make Capcom even more $ on LP2. Then one will certainly be left questioning if this was not the plan from the get go.;)

Regardless if it was there intention or not, it certainly provides them with a splendid opportunity to cash in on it by offering it as DLC. Whereas, they could have went the multi-disk route on the 360 and put everything on one disk for the PS3 instead. Yet they are not doing that. I wonder why?

I guess logic really is a non-factor in system wars:roll: The only thing that matters on any system is "the product that is being sold", and if the product is having issues with the media that its on, that that product needs to find something to support it. If there is a product that can support your product, then you go with that product because it will make your product better.

Developers should make the game first, then worry about getting it out to the people.

1- Horrible source
2- Nothing in that article states anything that would make you think Rockstar said it.
3- With nothing in that article from the developer of the game. The entire article becomes an assumption by the writer of that article
4- Assumptions=/= Fact
5- Random source named gofanboy? seriously?
6- TC FAIL!!

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]You don't go back and forth through chapters, but you might through areas :PIronBass

Right. But unless done horribly wrong (which would be the dev's fault, not DVD's), there's no reason for that to be a problem.

Multi-disc open world games have been done right before.

DVD is holding back multiplat games. If 360 had something comparable to Blu-ray we could get some truly amazing games with no restrictions. GTA this gen could truly go to the next level.Parasomniac

1- Horrible source
2- Nothing in that article states anything that would make you think Rockstar said it.
3- With nothing in that article from the developer of the game. The entire article becomes an assumption by the writer of that article
4- Assumptions=/= Fact
5- Random source named gofanboy? seriously?
6- TC FAIL!!

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jg4xchamp

Wow, calm down. No need.

DVD is a problem, regardless of whether Don Mattrick said it, or Captain Kangaroo.

Well, I guess there's a lesson to be learned here, developers! Don't make big ass games! :PDethSkematik

yeah, make more games like modern warfare 2, see where the industry will go from there.

DVDs work fine, just not for consoles. They work perfect for PC and if they used an install system on consoles they would also work fine. it is just bad design that is stopping the 360 from making gamers' lives easier.SF_KiLLaMaN

Is it Agent that is actually being developed by the GTA team?Hahadouken

While I can't quite say GOFANBOY.COM is a credible source, since they have no links, no sources, and not even 1 single quote in that article,

I will say that this scenereo was bound to happen. Games aren't gonna get smaller and eventually Microsofts tech. inferior XBOX 360 design choices would eventually catch up with it.

Since Rockstar is known for making and/or producing open-world type games, this can become a bonafide problem with storage access of only 6.8 GB.

If games like what Rockstar likes to make are to move forward, it may become necessary, perhaps even enevitable, for XBOX 360 to eventually be left behind.

Gofanboy.com?

No source?

Credibility denied. Lol.

Where do people find these sites?

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information is still limitedGoFanboy

And no quotes or links.

Sterling source.

(15000 posts whoo)

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...Anjunaddict

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Isn't it odd how the majority of games this happens on are ones which were originally PS3 exclusives and then got ported to 360, hmm, wonder why that could be...Anjunaddict

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] I remember Rockstar saying the same thing about GTAIV and that was multiplat from the beginning.Jamiemydearx3

I find it odd how GTA IV is 15gbs on my PC, and it fits on a DVD9 fine.

Jamiemydearx3

But isn't the Native resolution of PC GTA 4 1080p?

That goes a long way towards explaining why.

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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Thats strange, considering GTAIV didnt even take up that much space on a DVD.Fuhgeddabouditt

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]

I find it odd how GTA IV is 15gbs on my PC, and it fits on a DVD9 fine.

Persistantthug

But isn't the Native resolution of PC GTA 4 1080p?

That goes a long way towards explaining why.

screen resolution is dependant on horsepower...not storage....in games. games are not movies. remember there are two types of HD...theres HD the resolution (720P, 1080P etc) and then theres HD as in texture size and detail. storage has no brearing on screen resolution but is important (but not the most difinitive) in texture resolution.osan0

I said native osan0.

Regardless of the validity of the source here, it's clear that DVD is an issue for size and has been for quite some time. When John Carmack said Rage would require multiple discs, people called him a moron, ****-disturber, self-promoter, whatever... now Final 13 has been downgraded, Dragon Age Origins was downgraded to fit on one disc, Forza 3 is on multiple discs, Mass Effect 2 is on multiple discs, Final 13 is on multiple discs, with more on the way. LA Noire sounded awesome from the start, but compromises like multiple discs and downgrades could hurt it, since it's open-world. What I don't get is why trim down the PS3 versions to make them identical? Just leave the stuff on the PS3 version and trim down the XBox version. Why make one console suffer because the other uses an older media format? Is it Agent that is actually being developed by the GTA team?Hahadouken

1. How is Dragon Age "downgraded"? I have the PC version and it fits on a single disc. My first play-through was about 25-30 hours long. Every BioWare game I've ever played has been this length. What exactly did they downgrade? Oh did I mention it scored AAA at Gamerankings?
2. Forza 3 is on multiple discs? This didn't affect the game at all. The second disc is just content you can download onto your hard drive. Oh and again this game is AAA at Gamerakings.
3. With Mass Effect 2 you just had to swap discs. The game is 20+ hours longs and it scored AAA at Gamerankings.

In this thread - Cows moaning, Lems denying

I think this is one area where the PS3 fanboys have a legitimate point. The storage media of the Bluray is a clear advantage for the PS3, and by the time we start to see it become an issue, the next Xbox will probably be on its way.

Maybe it'll happen ala FFXIII and we'll see a lower quality version on 360.

RedruM_I

I find disturbing the lack of understanding here. The DVD is enough if you have the hard drive space to deliver all the information highly compressed. In other words, if you have a large hard drive to install. The PC can deliver a game on a DVD because it has this characteristic, there's no PC without a hard drive. There are models of 360 without hard drives which means developers can't compress the information the same way they do with PC since they can't make mandatory installs due to the lack of hard drive on some models. That's why the DVD format on the 360 is a problem but not so much for the PC.RedruM_I

DVD is a fine format...

You could buy a terabyte of hdd space for the cost of a blue ray reader and have better read and write times...

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]I find disturbing the lack of understanding here. The DVD is enough if you have the hard drive space to deliver all the information highly compressed. In other words, if you have a large hard drive to install. The PC can deliver a game on a DVD because it has this characteristic, there's no PC without a hard drive. There are models of 360 without hard drives which means developers can't compress the information the same way they do with PC since they can't make mandatory installs due to the lack of hard drive on some models. That's why the DVD format on the 360 is a problem but not so much for the PC.Ninja-Bear

I (...)Maybe it'll happen ala FFXIII and we'll see a lower quality version on 360. (...)

RedruM_I

Eh, I can't fault Microsoft for choosing dvd9, Most gens have lasted 5 years, this one is diffrent,this is the 5th year for the 360, most gens we would be seeing a replacement for this next christmas,and yet its really only a few games that either get slightly downgraded, or go multidisk

I have both systems, and really like them both, but both have advantages abd disadvantages, yes Blu-ray is a larger format, but alot more games on Ps3 require an install, which to me personally is alot more anoying than a disk swap on less tha 10 total games on 360.

I really like this gen, It took Sony a while, but now they seem to be in full swing, there are awesome games for the 360, and most of all, after Gran Turismo 4, then seeing every forza game ever made released after (LOVE FORZA AS WELL) looks like we might get GT5 this year.

As for graphics, the ps3 is a tiny bit better, but not enough for me to care, and certainly not to the diffrence between the ps2 and original xbox, both current systems are capable of creating great looking games

The 360 **** everything over...

Leave our exclusives alone and go make another Halo or Gears game. Just think all of the multiplats out right now. Then think about how much better they would be if they were a PS3 exclusive.