EA and Microsoft obviously have a deal going to work against Sony and the PS3

Orange box for the PS3 has been delayed again to 08. http://www.n4g.com/News-82247.aspx

Things we need to look at including Orange BOX being delayed.

Microsoft pays off publishers/devs. They recently paid EA for something, I think it had something to with EA sports. I don't remember, but they paid them millions for something.

EA is the biggest 3rd party publisher worldwide(they have the money and resources to keep everything up to par between the consoles) yet they're the main developers that have these "problems" that delay ps3 games months later or they can't put games up to par(Madden 08, even though it was never that big).

Games like Call of Duty 4, Oblivion, Assassisn Creed, etc. have come to look better on the PS3 or are on par and CoD4 and AC releasing both versions SAME DAY. There's no way EA should be having these "problems". Even if it were 100% true, EA has more money and resources than any other 3rd party publisher. They should be able to fix "problems" easily.

People at Ubisoft(GRAW) have said that the PS3 is not really more difficult to code for, it's just newer.

Peter Moore(former microsoft games division vice-president) recenetly transfered to work for EA a few months ago.

Gabe Newell and the other guy at Valve have hated on the PS3 with stupid comments.(HL2 Orange Box developers.)

Go Back to the Skate commercials. They Only ever marketed the 360 version and never the PS3 version. The only time EA has ever given Sony any type of marketing love this gen is with the Simpsons Game(face_plain)

So I just went to the EA site and saw an ad linking to the XBOX thing linking to the XBOX site(go to it to see what I mean). No mention of PS3 anywhere actually on the front page.

There's a lot more examples that I just can' think of atm becuase it's so late.

When you look at all the evidence it proves that EA is anti-Sony, and likely becuase of a secret deal they have with Microsoft. I'm almost ready to boycott EA, and I think many of you should think about doing the same.

EA and Microsoft = FAILURES

Yeah PS3 doesn't move as much software for them as 360. The "conspiracy" is called business.

When you look at all the evidence it proves that EA is anti-Sony, and likely becuase of a secret deal they have with Microsoft. I'm almost ready to boycott EA, and I think many of you should think about doing the same.

Out_Kast3000

You know what? I'd say your about half right.

EA probably isn't doing anything to help Sony along. The console seems harder to develop for (whether thats because it's more complex, or just because it's newer) and their making a hell of a lot more on the 360 than any other console.

Does that mean their colluding with Microsoft? Hell no, that's conspiracy theory and you don't really give it any basis. Why would Microsoft pay for EA to shun the PS3 when their probably going to do it anyway based on market forces?

ummm...no

false

phony

wrong

(could ir be that the ps3 is just bad for developing games?)

.

Oh yes, of course it's all a big conspiracy theory *rolls eyes*

Maybe, gasp, it's because the PS3 is hard to develop for, especially for developers like Valve who are accustomed to PC game development--and maybe it also has something to do with the fact that the 360 and PC are going to take priority over the PS3 due to having much higher software sales.

Just maybe.

Or it could all be one giant conspiracy involving bribes, blackmail, and possibly the Illuminati and alien abductions.

You guys need to read and stop being brainwwashed.

Ubisoft and Activision have just recenetly made it so that games like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 and XBOX 360 look basically identical. Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 even looks better than the 360 version at some places. It's not just 2 games either.

Ubisoft and Activision also are also likely to get more sales from the XBOX 360 version of their games just becuase more people have them atm (which will change soon), but their games still looking great on both and are coming out on the same exact day.

There is no reason the PS3 version of Orange BOX shouldn't be out right now really. January 2008? Are you kidding me?

I'm only calling conspiracy because it's obviously there.

EA Fails extremely hard.

You guys need to read and stop being so brainwwashed.

Ubisoft and Activision have just recenetly made it so that games like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 and XBOX 360 look basically identical. Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 even looks better than the 360 version at some places. It's not just 2 games either.

Ubisoft and Activision also are also likely to get more sales from the XBOX 360 version of their games just becuase more people have them atm (which will change soon), but their games still looking great on both and are coming out on the same exact day.

There is no reason the PS3 version of Orange BOX shouldn't be out with the XBOX 360 version right now really.

I'm only calling conspiracy because it's obviously there.

Out_Kast3000

Brainwashed? We're not the ones espousing silly conspiracy theories as if there's any chance of them being true.

Just because a few developers say the PS3 is easy, that doesn't mean it will be for most of them, and most especially those who have only developed for the PC and the Xbox in the past (like, say, Valve).

EDIT: I will agree, though, that EA fails hard. But not because of this.

So I just found out what cow menas and that is not me. I'm stating facts(everything up there is fact) and all these facts point to a secret deal.

So I just found out what cow menas and that is not me. I'm stating facts(everything up there is fact) and all these facts point to a secret deal.

Out_Kast3000

Opinion + conspiracies =/= fact!

When will people learn the diffrence?

apocalypse is the sign of the 4 horseman

horseman starts with the letter h

letter that bill gates wrote to 3rd party developers how he will pay hefty sum if they delay the ps3 versions of the multi-plat games

games usually consist a battle between good and evil

the clue started with the word evil and ended with evil. thats a full circle.

full circle = 360*

microsofts current console is called xbox 360

bill gates is the founder of microsoft

my god bill gates is behind the evil scheme. the conspiracy :shock:.

microsoft is an evil corporation they paid ubisoft to release the ps3 versions of rainbow six vegas, graw 2, and blazing angels 2 late. dont forget how ubisoft are lazy developers as well.

almost forgot midway's stranglehold got released later tahn the 360 version or how epic's ut3 got delayed on the ps3. my bovine brothers we must stop microsoft's evil scheme. its a conspiracy i tell ya.

So I just found out what cow menas and that is not me. I'm stating facts(everything up there is fact) and all these facts point to a secret deal.

Out_Kast3000

Wow cool I can sound like a PS3 conspiracy nut also. ( This conspirqacy theories that people come up with are sad)

You guys are seriously brainwashed, just like some of those guys over on the ign boards(Vestibule).

I've laid out indisputable facts that proves there's something shady going on between microsoft and EA. Start listening now.

You guys are seriously brainwashed, just like those guys over on the ign boards(Vestibule). Out_Kast3000

I've laid out indisputable facts that proves there's something shady going on between microsoft and EA. Start listening now.

Out_Kast3000

Um, no you didn't. Not even close. You didn't even present evidence that there's something shady going on between MS and EA, much less "indisputable facts that prove" there is. All you presented was speculation.

Assassisn Creed and Call of Duty 4 is all that needs to be said.

Coming out same day with virtually no differences between the games(Creed may be better on PS3 though due to Blu-Ray).

We're talking a 3 month delay between Orange Box on the PS3 and Orange Box on the XBOX 360/PC.

Not to mention it's not like Orange Box is some powerhouse technically. Most of the games are just PC/XBOX ports.

And it's not like TF2 and Portal are some amazingly detailed games or anywhere near Call of Duty 4 or Assassins Creed in that department.

You guys are seriously brainwashed, just like those guys over on the ign boards(Vestibule).

I've laid out indisputable facts that proves there's something shady going on between microsoft and EA. Start listening now.

Out_Kast3000

i know they are all brainwashed. we have solved the conspiracy bill gates has schemed, but they dont want to listen to us my bovine brethren. we must show them sony is the way to go with their awesome movie pla...i mean great game console known as the playstation 3 aka ps3 and how it is worth the wait. dude im joking dont take it all seriously.

Assassisn Creed and Call of Duty 4 is all that needs to be said.

Coming out same day with virtually no differences between the games(Creed may be better on PS3 though due to Blu-Ray).

We're talking a 3 month delay between Orange Box on the PS3 and Orange Box on the XBOX 360/PC.

Not to mention it's not like Orange Box is some powerhouse technically. Most of the games are just PC/XBOX ports.

And it's not like TF2 and Portal are some amazingly detailed games or anywhere near Call of Duty 4 or Assassins Creed in that department.

Out_Kast3000

They are different games with different engines. The issue is not just about visual detail, it's about how the games are coded and how much the programmers have to change the code to make it work on the PS3.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

Assassisn Creed and Call of Duty 4 is all that needs to be said.

Coming out same day with virtually no differences between the games(Creed may be better on PS3 though due to Blu-Ray).

We're talking a 3 month delay between Orange Box on the PS3 and Orange Box on the XBOX 360/PC.

Not to mention it's not like Orange Box is some powerhouse technically. Most of the games are just PC/XBOX ports.

And it's not like TF2 and Portal are some amazingly detailed games or anywhere near Call of Duty 4 or Assassins Creed in that department.

OremLK

They are different games with different engines. The issue is not just about visual detail, it's about how the games are coded and how much the programmers have to change the code to make it work on the PS3.

They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.

Still doesn't change anything though.

They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.Out_Kast3000

[QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

Assassisn Creed and Call of Duty 4 is all that needs to be said.

Coming out same day with virtually no differences between the games(Creed may be better on PS3 though due to Blu-Ray).

We're talking a 3 month delay between Orange Box on the PS3 and Orange Box on the XBOX 360/PC.

Not to mention it's not like Orange Box is some powerhouse technically. Most of the games are just PC/XBOX ports.

And it's not like TF2 and Portal are some amazingly detailed games or anywhere near Call of Duty 4 or Assassins Creed in that department.

Out_Kast3000

They are different games with different engines. The issue is not just about visual detail, it's about how the games are coded and how much the programmers have to change the code to make it work on the PS3.

Still doesn't change anything though.

All of the Orange Box games use the same engine, but that engine is completely different from the ones used in Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed respectively. You can't expect every game to take the same amount of time to port from one system to the next, and visual detail is not necessarily the reason for delays. It might just be difficult to change PC/Xbox code into a form that will work on the PS3.

By the way, TF2 and Portal may not be "visual powerhouses", but HL2: Episode 2 looks better than either CoD4 or Assassin's Creed.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.cakeorrdeath

Misinformed about what?

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

Assassisn Creed and Call of Duty 4 is all that needs to be said.

Coming out same day with virtually no differences between the games(Creed may be better on PS3 though due to Blu-Ray).

We're talking a 3 month delay between Orange Box on the PS3 and Orange Box on the XBOX 360/PC.

Not to mention it's not like Orange Box is some powerhouse technically. Most of the games are just PC/XBOX ports.

And it's not like TF2 and Portal are some amazingly detailed games or anywhere near Call of Duty 4 or Assassins Creed in that department.

OremLK

They are different games with different engines. The issue is not just about visual detail, it's about how the games are coded and how much the programmers have to change the code to make it work on the PS3.

Still doesn't change anything though.

All of the Orange Box games use the same engine, but that engine is completely different from the ones used in Call of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed respectively. You can't expect every game to take the same amount of time to port from one system to the next, and visual detail is not necessarily the reason for delays. It might just be difficult to change PC/Xbox code into a form that will work on the PS3.

By the way, TF2 and Portal may not be "visual powerhouses", but HL2: Episode 2 looks better than either CoD4 or Assassin's Creed.

Ep. 2 does not look better than CoD4 or Assassisn Creed. Get your eyes checked.

Let me guess the developers for Timeshift, Blacksite, MGS4,Stranglehold and so on are also out to destroy. get real

John Carmack head of I.D. software ( Doom, Quake, Castle Wolfenstien, Etc. )

We've got our PlayStation 3 dev kits, and we've got our code compiling on it. I do intend to do a simultaneous release on it. But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's," said Carmack. "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision, but they're not helpful to the developers."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/10-01-2007-4456.html

Gabe Newell head of Valve ( Counter Strike, Half Life, Etc. )

"Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created", Newell told Edge magazine.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

neither of these developers are MS first party developers and they are both VERY respected in what they do. So please stop with the X-Files junk that developers are out to get the PS3. There is a reason why Sony just sold off all its share of the cell because it was not all it was made up to be......./gasp something from Sony did not live up to the hype. That is not thaqt rare really.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.Out_Kast3000

Misinformed about what?

That the games in the Orange Box run on the same engine as COD4 and Assassin's Creed. They do not.

Let me guess the developers for Timeshift, Blacksite, MGS4,Stranglehold and so on are also out to destroy. get real

John Carmack head of I.D. software ( Doom, Quake, Castle Wolfenstien, Etc. )

We've got our PlayStation 3 dev kits, and we've got our code compiling on it. I do intend to do a simultaneous release on it. But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's," said Carmack. "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision, but they're not helpful to the developers."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/10-01-2007-4456.html

Gabe Newell head of Valve ( Counter Strike, Half Life, Etc. )

"Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created", Newell told Edge magazine.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

neither of these developers are MS first party developers and they are both VERY respected in what they do. So please stop with the X-Files junk that developers are out to get the PS3. There is a reason why Sony just sold off all its share of the cell because it was not all it was made up to be......./gasp something from Sony did not live up to the hype. That is not thaqt rare really.

rybe1025

/conspiracy

I am the sole Arbiter of truth! Any evidence you show me I can swat away by claiming it as part of the conspiracy, any lack of evidence I suffer from I can rationalize by saying you are all ignorant.

See, it's easy a really easy position to defend. Doesn't really win people over to your argument though.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.Danm_999

Misinformed about what?

That the games in the Orange Box run on the same engine as COD4 and Assassin's Creed. They do not.

I wasn't saying that they run on the same engine.

I was saying all the games in the orange box run on the same engine.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]They all use the same engine and code or whatever. It's one of the reason they could all fit on a DVD.Out_Kast3000

Misinformed about what?

That the games in the Orange Box run on the same engine as COD4 and Assassin's Creed. They do not.

I wasn't saying that they run on the same engine.

Everyone else was. OremLK was saying Assassin's Creed and COD4 run on different engines to the game on Orange Box, and engines are how you compare the difficulty of programming games, not visual quality.

To say that Assassin's Creed, COD4 and Orange Box should all be as easy to program for is an incorrect analogy, they all use different engines, and the one Orange Box uses was made by the man who has so vehemently criticized the PS3.

Gee, maybe that's the reason for the delay, not some massive conspiracy you have no tangible evidence for.

Let me guess the developers for Timeshift, Blacksite, MGS4,Stranglehold and so on are also out to destroy. get real

John Carmack head of I.D. software ( Doom, Quake, Castle Wolfenstien, Etc. )

We've got our PlayStation 3 dev kits, and we've got our code compiling on it. I do intend to do a simultaneous release on it. But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's," said Carmack. "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision, but they're not helpful to the developers."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/10-01-2007-4456.html

Gabe Newell head of Valve ( Counter Strike, Half Life, Etc. )

"Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created", Newell told Edge magazine.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

neither of these developers are MS first party developers and they are both VERY respected in what they do. So please stop with the X-Files junk that developers are out to get the PS3. There is a reason why Sony just sold off all its share of the cell because it was not all it was made up to be......./gasp something from Sony did not live up to the hype. That is not thaqt rare really.

rybe1025

Your post fails just becuase Gabe Newell used to work for Microsoft. He's also basically an EA employee since they publish Half-LIfe 2. He's also a Sony hater and nobody cares what he has to say. You need to learn to read since I mentioned Newell in an earlier post.

Other people have said that the PS3 is not much harder to develop for(Ubisoft).

John Carmack is a fanboy, he didn't even like the PS2. ANd there have been devs who've said that the PS3 is NOT much harder to difficult for than the XBOX 360(Ubisoft).

Still, none of this disproves any of what I've said about their being a conspiracy. There is one, and I'm anticipating an employee speaks out on it somehow soon.

And still just like I said in my other posts, many other devs have been able to release games at the same time as the PS3. Just recenetly with CoD4 and AC.

3 month delay for Half Life 2 Orange Box = Valve and EA failures.

the first flaw in your argument is, Assassins creed isnt out yet and hasnt really had any legit comparisons yet. (also by the way it will probably look better on 360 since thats the system they have been showing the public)

Secondly, its pretty much been roven a few times over that call of duty looks slightly better. In my opinion, it doesnt make a difference, but for you to say it looks better on ps3 is basically downright false.

uhhg spelling: proven*

and i meant to say its been proven a few times over that call of duty looks slightly better on 360

the first flaw in your argument is, Assassins creed isnt out yet and hasnt really had any legit comparisons yet. (also by the way it will probably look better on 360 since thats the system they have been showing the public)

Secondly, its pretty much been roven a few times over that call of duty looks slightly better. In my opinion, it doesnt make a difference, but for you to say it looks better on ps3 is basically downright false.

xfire3

LOL, there's been reviews on Assassins Creed already and other people from sites have seen both builds from the game.

LOL@ Call of Duty 4 looking better on the 360. This has never been proven. It's only been proven it looks slightly better on the PS3. Stop saying stuff if you have no knowledge on it.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Let me guess the developers for Timeshift, Blacksite, MGS4,Stranglehold and so on are also out to destroy. get real

John Carmack head of I.D. software ( Doom, Quake, Castle Wolfenstien, Etc. )

We've got our PlayStation 3 dev kits, and we've got our code compiling on it. I do intend to do a simultaneous release on it. But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's," said Carmack. "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision, but they're not helpful to the developers."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/10-01-2007-4456.html

Gabe Newell head of Valve ( Counter Strike, Half Life, Etc. )

"Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created", Newell told Edge magazine.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

neither of these developers are MS first party developers and they are both VERY respected in what they do. So please stop with the X-Files junk that developers are out to get the PS3. There is a reason why Sony just sold off all its share of the cell because it was not all it was made up to be......./gasp something from Sony did not live up to the hype. That is not thaqt rare really.

Out_Kast3000

Your post fails just becuase Gabe Newell used to work for Microsoft. He's also basically an EA employee since they publish Half-LIfe 2. He's also a Sony hater and nobody cares what he has to say. You need to learn to read since I mentioned Newell in an earlier post.

Other people have said that the PS3 is not much harder to develop for(Ubisoft).

John Carmack is a fanboy, he didn't even like the PS2. ANd there have been devs who've said that the PS3 is NOT much harder to difficult for than the XBOX 360(Ubisoft).

Still, none of this disproves any of what I've said about their being a conspiracy. There is one, and I'm anticipating an employee speaks out on it somehow soon.

And still just like I said in my other posts, many other devs have been able to release games at the same time as the PS3. Just recenetly with CoD4 and AC.

3 month delay for Half Life 2 Orange Box = Valve and EA failures.

I am enjoying your posts thoroughly.

Orange box for the PS3 has been delayed again to 08. http://www.n4g.com/News-82247.aspx

Things we need to look at including Orange BOX being delayed.

Microsoft pays off publishers/devs. They recently paid EA for something, I think it had something to with EA sports. I don't remember, but they paid them millions for something.

EA is the biggest 3rd party publisher worldwide(they have the money and resources to keep everything up to par between the consoles) yet they're the main developers that have these "problems" that delay ps3 games months later or they can't put games up to par(Madden 08, even though it was never that big).

Games like Call of Duty 4, Oblivion, Assassisn Creed, etc. have come to look better on the PS3 or are on par and CoD4 and AC releasing both versions SAME DAY. There's no way EA should be having these "problems". Even if it were 100% true, EA has more money and resources than any other 3rd party publisher. They should be able to fix "problems" easily.

People at Ubisoft(GRAW) have said that the PS3 is not really more difficult to code for, it's just newer.

Peter Moore(former microsoft games division vice-president) recenetly transfered to work for EA a few months ago.

Gabe Newell and the other guy at Valve have hated on the PS3 with stupid comments.(HL2 Orange Box developers.)

Go Back to the Skate commercials. They Only ever marketed the 360 version and never the PS3 version. The only time EA has ever given Sony any type of marketing love this gen is with the Simpsons Game(face_plain)

So I just went to the EA site and saw an ad linking to the XBOX thing linking to the XBOX site(go to it to see what I mean). No mention of PS3 anywhere actually on the front page.

There's a lot more examples that I just can' think of atm becuase it's so late.

When you look at all the evidence it proves that EA is anti-Sony, and likely becuase of a secret deal they have with Microsoft. I'm almost ready to boycott EA, and I think many of you should think about doing the same.

EA and Microsoft = FAILURES

Out_Kast3000

I swear after all the bravado, showboating and just insane killer instinct at bashing other systems you Sony fans had last generation, you guys have really let me down, i'm disappointed in Sony fans.

you guys are pretty tough when you are on top, but when you are not, you guys all sound like whining babies, christ! I thought you Sony fans would hold it together better than this, but noooooo

all you guys do is complain about conspiracy theories and biased websites.

[QUOTE="xfire3"]

the first flaw in your argument is, Assassins creed isnt out yet and hasnt really had any legit comparisons yet. (also by the way it will probably look better on 360 since thats the system they have been showing the public)

Secondly, its pretty much been roven a few times over that call of duty looks slightly better. In my opinion, it doesnt make a difference, but for you to say it looks better on ps3 is basically downright false.

Out_Kast3000

LOL, there's been reviews on Assassins Creed already and other people from sites have seen both builds from the game.

LOL@ Call of Duty 4 looking better on the 360. This has never been proven. It's only been proven it looks slightly better on the PS3. Stop saying stuff if you have no knowledge on it.

ok then please link a side-by-side screenshot comparison of assassins creed on 360 and ps3. Secondly, please show me a side by side for call of duty as well. If I recall correctly, just a few days ago somone had made a comparison of 360 and ps3. There it was pretty much proven that the 360 build looked better

You guys need to read and stop being brainwwashed.

Ubisoft and Activision have just recenetly made it so that games like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 and XBOX 360 look basically identical. Call of Duty 4 on the PS3 even looks better than the 360 version at some places. It's not just 2 games either.

Ubisoft and Activision also are also likely to get more sales from the XBOX 360 version of their games just becuase more people have them atm (which will change soon), but their games still looking great on both and are coming out on the same exact day.

There is no reason the PS3 version of Orange BOX shouldn't be out right now really. January 2008? Are you kidding me?

I'm only calling conspiracy because it's obviously there.

EA Fails extremely hard.

Out_Kast3000

you know what! you are absolutely right, EA is soooooo god damn smart that they will purposely make a game they worked on for months or years terrible, so people on the PS3 won't buy it so they can buy the 360 version instead! come on dude, open your damn eyes, how many PS3 owners also own a 360, how stupid would EA be to hurt their sales on the PS3? if a PS3 owner won't buy Madden cause it sucks, they are not going to buy a 360 to get madden. chances of that are very low, it would just make sense to make the game the best they can and get higher sales.

god damn it some of you go through life always blaming things on conspiracy theories, its so sad.

So I just found out what cow menas and that is not me. I'm stating facts(everything up there is fact) and all these facts point to a secret deal.

Out_Kast3000

jesus dude, EA admitted that the games are not up to par on the PS3, they said it themselves that they need more time with the system, I think they even promised that the next batch of sports games will be better, so whats your point? the first madden on the 360 was garbage and they improved, same thing with the PS3, they will improve as they continue to work with the system, just stop with the conspiracy theories.