EA: No next-gen FIFA 14 on PC because users have low-spec machines

BS...

games have the following options

low and high settings
1280x720 and 2560x1440
30fps and 60fps

so everybody can play them no matter if you have a high-end pc or a low-end pc

[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

I have to agree with EA, out of my Battlefield 3 clan of 200 or so members maybe 20-30 have PC's that can run high settings and less than 10 that can max it out. The rest run on low-medium and won't be upgrading anytime soon.

Davekeeh

how are you still here?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]I call BS.faizan_faizan

While they maybe exaggerating, a large portion of PC gamers are not capable of running the game if steam is any indication.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Also they aren't really saying that many PC gamers cannot run the game, they are saying people who PLAY the game use low spec pcs.

No, but EA does and they said the majority of the players who actually get it on PC cannot run the game. Also I don't see what your point is about the 680GTX.

I have been moving at least once a year for 3 years so far, and desktop has always been the problem.funsohng

Actually they talk about the PC gamers who play Fifa, Not PC gamers in general.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

Current mid end rigs. But most people dont upgrade their rig every year. Most people are PC gaming on laptops and old desktops.

Jandurin

Some people just dont know diddly about computers, when most my friends talk computer speed all they talk about is the speed of the cpu ... they dont even know what a gpu is. And yes, they all play PC games. One of my friends bought a sony vaio thinking he could game on it because it had a fast cpu, now he has to PC game with everything on the lowest settings and a barely playable framerate.

For whatever reason they dont ask my advice, i think becaue they just walk into a best buy and get excited and dont want to have to wait for parts to ship... they want that instant gratification. Although luckily my buddy with the vaio said next time he needs a new computer hes going to have me build it for him, so he learned his lesson.

But yes, of all my friends that PC game im the only one that builds his own rig.... the vast majority of PC gamers are buying pre builts off the shelf from the local electronics store.

I bet that half of consolites don´t have a decent PC

jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="funsohng"]I have been moving at least once a year for 3 years so far, and desktop has always been the problem.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

99% of hermits don't have a gaming rig

CaseyWegner

then they're not hermits, are they? :|

scary isn't it?..and alot of these guys are serious

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

I bet that half of consolites don´t have a decent PC

nethernova

Because most active anti-PC consolites claim the opposite.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] my friend just bought a laptop like last year to game and i'm like why don't you just get a desktop whyJandurin

Not necessarily true, my GF needed a laptop for school and my old gaming rig she was using had just crapped the bed. When i was pricing out various options i found going with a modest gaming laptop made more sense than buying a cheap laptop and building a separate gaming desktop.

It made more sense to wait and build her a modest gaming rig down the road when necessary, and have a higher quality laptop that will remain viable for a longer period due to the better hardware. But shes not the type of person that needs bleeding edge visuals, she just wanted something that can play current PC games decently.

granted if you dont have to have a laptop a desktop is usually the better option for gaming. But some people prioritize ease of use and mobility over graphics.

Not necessarily true, my GF needed a laptop for school and my old gaming rig she was using had just crapped the bed. When i was pricing out various options i found going with a modest gaming laptop made more sense than buying a cheap laptop and building a separate gaming desktop.

BeardMaster

Hermits should upgrade their rig more often because they are holding everybody back

The cows here have better rigs than hermits

Hermits should upgrade their rig more often because they are holding everybody back

Davekeeh

the article said users...not hermits. maybe non-hermits should upgrade since they're the ones holding everybody back.

Hermits should upgrade their rig more often because they are holding everybody back

Davekeeh

I don't think consoles can do 1600p either.. so... Motokid6

[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

I have to agree with EA, out of my Battlefield 3 clan of 200 or so members maybe 20-30 have PC's that can run high settings and less than 10 that can max it out. The rest run on low-medium and won't be upgrading anytime soon.

Davekeeh

I think you'll find the majority of 'hermits' on here have rigs perfectly capable of running BF3 on high or greater settings. Which is why the majority of PC gamers you encounter brag about graphics. The people with low end systems that can barely play games don't frequent system wars or any other cross platform gaming forum.

On topic

From what I can make out from digging through multiple web sites Fifa 2013 sold roughly 14.3 million of which on PC they sold roughly 1 million units. It's hardly a good cross section of the estimated 275 million PC's used to play games world wide. I suggest you go and find the specifications of the average World of Tanks player, with 70 million registered users you'll have a much clearer view.

Anyway I personally couldn't care less about Fifa or PES, I haven't played a football game since Sensi soccer.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Hermits should upgrade their rig more often because they are holding everybody back

MonsieurX

Nah consoles were never holding PCs back, PC gamers were. Even AAA PC exclusives like D3 and SC2 aim for low system requirements beause they want increased market penetration and know their demographics.. and it works since i think D3 is the best selling PC game in history wouldnt be surprised if SC2 is the 2nd best selling.

Granted D3 is no longer a PC exlusive, but it was a PC exclusive this gen. And the best looking games currently on PC are actually the multiplats.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Hermits should upgrade their rig more often because they are holding everybody back

BeardMaster

Nah consoles were never holding PCs back, PC gamers were. Even AAA PC exclusives like D3 and SC2 aim for low system requirements beause they want increased market penetration and know their demographics.. and it works since i think D3 is the best selling PC game in history wouldnt be surprised if SC2 is the 2nd best selling.

Granted D3 is no longer a PC exlusive, but it was a PC exclusive this gen. And the best looking games currently on PC are actually the multiplats.

Actually they talk about the PC gamers who play Fifa, Not PC gamers in general.

jhonMalcovich

I kind of figured it was something like that.  That the demograph that they were looking at it probably didn't have high end PC's.

I guess the key is in that sentence.

"The majority of the gamer base that was playing the game on PC did not have a PC spec that would work with that."

In other words out of the PC gamers that played that game, most had lower end PC's.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Actually they talk about the PC gamers who play Fifa, Not PC gamers in general.

menes777

I kind of figured it was something like that.  That the demograph that they were looking at it probably didn't have high end PC's.

Otherwise BF4 (EA´s title) wouldn´t use PC as a lead platform. On the other hand, I stopped buying Fifa on PC becuase EA doesn´t make good PC ports. So it´s kinda a vicious circle.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] consoles are Not surprising since ps3 was a hell to develop onfaizan_faizan

Nah consoles were never holding PCs back, PC gamers were. Even AAA PC exclusives like D3 and SC2 aim for low system requirements beause they want increased market penetration and know their demographics.. and it works since i think D3 is the best selling PC game in history wouldnt be surprised if SC2 is the 2nd best selling.

Granted D3 is no longer a PC exlusive, but it was a PC exclusive this gen. And the best looking games currently on PC are actually the multiplats.

In terms of multiplats sure, but ports to PC are designed to be done quickly and cheaply as PC sales generally dont make up the lions share of their revenue. Thus ports are not tailored to the PC demographic like PC exclusives are. And the best selling PC exclusives generally target low end hardware.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Actually they talk about the PC gamers who play Fifa, Not PC gamers in general.

jhonMalcovich

I kind of figured it was something like that.  That the demograph that they were looking at it probably didn't have high end PC's.

Otherwise BF4 (EA´s title) wouldn´t use PC as a lead platform. On the other hand, I stopped buying Fifa on PC becuase EA doesn´t make good PC ports. So it´s kinda a vicious circle.

It's funny how some consolites are so threatened by PC that they have twist every single article to make themselves look better.

Smart decision by EA.

All the people I know that play fifa on PC don't have high end PCs.They play it on their laptops,which have intel x3100.

Smart decision by EA.

All the people I know that play fifa on PC don't have high end PCs.They play it on their laptops,which have intel x3100.

call_of_duty_10

They aren't talking about the average PC mastergamer. They are talking about the average FIFA player (who doesn't have a gaming rig).
Mr. Wilson doesn't know what he's talking about and confusing the two.
BF3 sales were good.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

I have to agree with EA, out of my Battlefield 3 clan of 200 or so members maybe 20-30 have PC's that can run high settings and less than 10 that can max it out. The rest run on low-medium and won't be upgrading anytime soon.

PurpleMan5000

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

Nah consoles were never holding PCs back, PC gamers were. Even AAA PC exclusives like D3 and SC2 aim for low system requirements beause they want increased market penetration and know their demographics.. and it works since i think D3 is the best selling PC game in history wouldnt be surprised if SC2 is the 2nd best selling.

 

Granted D3 is no longer a PC exlusive, but it was a PC exclusive this gen. And the best looking games currently on PC are actually the multiplats.

BeardMaster

In terms of multiplats sure, but ports to PC are designed to be done quickly and cheaply as PC sales generally dont make up the lions share of their revenue. Thus ports are not tailored to the PC demographic like PC exclusives are. And the best selling PC exclusives generally target low end hardware.

Just as a point to add to the discussion. I guess we're all presuming that everyone is aware that the majority (only bad console ports don't) of PC games come with scalable graphics options so as it can be fine tuned to your machine. It the reason why PC games come with minimum, recommended and ultra system requirements.

for example here's Crysis 3

Minimum system requirements for PC

• Windows Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8
• DirectX 11 graphics card with 1Gb Video RAM
• Dual core CPU
• 2GB Memory (3GB on Vista)
• Nvidia/Intel example setup: Nvidia GTS 450, Intel Core2 Duo 2.4 Ghz (E6600)
• AMD example setup: AMD Radeon HD5770, AMD Athlon64 X2 2.7 Ghz (5200+)

Recommended system requirements for PC

• Windows Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8
• DirectX 11 graphics card with 1GB Video RAM
• Quad core CPU
• 4GB Memory
• Nvidia/Intel example setup: Nvidia GTX 560, Intel Core i3-530
• AMD example setup: AMD Radeon HD5870, AMD Phenom II X2 565

Hi-performance system requirements for PC

• Windows Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8
• Latest DirectX 11 graphics card
• Latest quad core CPU
• 8GB Memory
• Nvidia/Intel example setup: NVidia GTX 680, Intel Core i7-2600k
• AMD example setup: AMD Radeon HD7970, AMD Bulldozer FX4150

As you can see a game that will make the latest and greatest of graphics cry tears of blood can be ran on a dual core CPU, the only kind of reasonably up to date component you need is a DX11 graphics card, so it has to be newer than 4 years old.

I know consoles don't need this feature but it is one of the benefits of PC gaming. You can tune it to how you want.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Actually, consoles were holding gaming back. How come E3 had games we could've never imagined? Watch Dogs for example, hair physics, cloth, fluid, wind, paper and materials on the ground reacting according to the wind and the environment. Not to mention that all of these features do apply on NPCs which I'm sure no open world game has ever done before. Also, did you saw how many NPCs were at the screen in a single frame? more than what the current gen games can render.DarthRamms

In terms of multiplats sure, but ports to PC are designed to be done quickly and cheaply as PC sales generally dont make up the lions share of their revenue. Thus ports are not tailored to the PC demographic like PC exclusives are. And the best selling PC exclusives generally target low end hardware.

thats why i said "generally". The basic point is if you want to view PC games in a vacuum (aka with no console influence) you look at PC exclusives. PC exlusives tend not to be the high end graphical masterpieces that hermits misguidedly think gaming standards would be without consoles. Especially the big budget games that need high sales to recoup that budget, there is only a limited market for games tailored specifically to the enthusiast. The vast majority of PC games would still be targeting the broad PC gaming market with low system requirements regardless of consoles.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I love how most Hermits brag about how their graphics look so much better, yet they have a low spec machine. LOL

lazerface216

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

In terms of multiplats sure, but ports to PC are designed to be done quickly and cheaply as PC sales generally dont make up the lions share of their revenue. Thus ports are not tailored to the PC demographic like PC exclusives are. And the best selling PC exclusives generally target low end hardware.

BeardMaster

thats why i said "generally". The basic point is if you want to view PC games in a vacuum (aka with no console influence) you look at PC exclusives. PC exlusives tend not to be the high end graphical masterpieces that hermits misguidedly think gaming standards would be without consoles. Especially the big budget games that need high sales to recoup that budget, there is only a limited market for games tailored specifically to the enthusiast. The vast majority of PC games would still be targeting the broad PC gaming market with low system requirements regardless of consoles.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"] EA first Q1 financial reports for 2012 shows PC more profitable than the PS3 not to mention publisher like Square Enix had release games with very good pc portsDarthRamms

thats why i said "generally". The basic point is if you want to view PC games in a vacuum (aka with no console influence) you look at PC exclusives. PC exlusives tend not to be the high end graphical masterpieces that hermits misguidedly think gaming standards would be without consoles. Especially the big budget games that need high sales to recoup that budget, there is only a limited market for games tailored specifically to the enthusiast. The vast majority of PC games would still be targeting the broad PC gaming market with low system requirements regardless of consoles.

Plenty of hermits say consoles are holding PC games back. Which i can only assume means they believe that in the absence of consoles, game devs would specifically be creating games for high end enthusiast rigs. The point i was trying to make is that isnt the case and that the varied hardware among the PC gamer demographic is what dictates the visual fidelity of PC games. The high end PC enthusiast is only a small slice of that demographic and there is no reason to think they were be any more catered to regardless of consoles.

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

thats why i said "generally". The basic point is if you want to view PC games in a vacuum (aka with no console influence) you look at PC exclusives. PC exlusives tend not to be the high end graphical masterpieces that hermits misguidedly think gaming standards would be without consoles. Especially the big budget games that need high sales to recoup that budget, there is only a limited market for games tailored specifically to the enthusiast. The vast majority of PC games would still be targeting the broad PC gaming market with low system requirements regardless of consoles.

BeardMaster

Plenty of hermits say consoles are holding PC games back. Which i can only assume means they believe that in the absence of consoles, game devs would specifically be creating games for high end enthusiast rigs. The point i was trying to make is that isnt the case and that the varied hardware among the PC gamer demographic is what dictates the visual fidelity of PC games. The high end PC enthusiast is only a small slice of that demographic and there is no reason to think they were be any more catered to regardless of consoles.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="DarthRamms"] don't see any hermit claiming pc exclusive were high end graphical master piece DarthRamms

Plenty of hermits say consoles are holding PC games back. Which i can only assume means they believe that in the absence of consoles, game devs would specifically be creating games for high end enthusiast rigs. The point i was trying to make is that isnt the case and that the varied hardware among the PC gamer demographic is what dictates the visual fidelity of PC games. The high end PC enthusiast is only a small slice of that demographic and there is no reason to think they were be any more catered to regardless of consoles.

Star Citizen has raised over $10 million and it's still well over a year away from release, providing they even hit the schedule for November 2014. Loads of people support high end gaming as do plenty of developers.