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Yeah, of the few people I know who have 3DS, they don't even use the 3D effect often.
It really is a gimmick
I'll never understand the people who denounce 3D without trying it. It's an awesome effect and unless you're one of the unlucky people who gets headaches or eye strains when playing it, I don't understand why people want to hate it. I never really 3D would add that much or be very cool but then I actually tried the system and realized that while it might not have a huge effect on gameplay, the effect works well and looks pretty cool.
i think the 3d is a nice feature. the only thing is it can run your battery down. like zelda oot looks sharp in 3D.
and as far as 3d being gimmickly goes. all 3d whether its games,movies or tv is a gimmick. its nice to watch but not everything should be in 3D. I mean they put a justin beiber movie in 3D. do we really need to see him in 3D?
i also think certain 3ds titles shouldb't have been in 3d. like honestly ssf4 should have stayed in 2d.
I'll never understand the people who denounce 3D without trying it. It's an awesome effect and unless you're one of the unlucky people who gets headaches or eye strains when playing it, I don't understand why people want to hate it. I never really 3D would add that much or be very cool but then I actually tried the system and realized that while it might not have a huge effect on gameplay, the effect works well and looks pretty cool.
starwarsgeek112
Unless you're one of the unlucky 25% of people......
Doesn't bother me, but it feels cheap and chintzy. Just a gimmick that got made up to try and sell TVs that are beyond or "better than HD"
I can definitely live without 3D but I love the experience on my PC. I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DS*strokes imaginary beard*
Does EA want 3DS to fail in favour of Vita?
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]
thats because nobody cares about games in 3D. even the 3D in the 3DS is not a great selling point.
tomarlyn
[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I can definitely live without 3D but I love the experience on my PC. I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DS Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.*strokes imaginary beard*
Does EA want 3DS to fail in favour of Vita?
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]
thats because nobody cares about games in 3D. even the 3D in the 3DS is not a great selling point.
Shinobishyguy
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I can definitely live without 3D but I love the experience on my PC.I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DS Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.tomarlyn
I think EA made one game that was actually designed to use the Wii properly (Dead Space) and it bombed. (sales wise) EA also is heavily invested in online gaming and the Wii is the last place to look for online gaming. Friend codes = fail.
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I can definitely live without 3D but I love the experience on my PC.I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DS Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.I can't think of any either. Infact the bulk of the DS's third party support came from Japanese developers.tomarlyn
3D will NOT be relevant until Autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, so that you wont need rediculous glasses.
Buying ANY 3D technology(not counting the 3DS right now) is stupid because anybody who buys 3D technology right now is buying it during a TRANSITIONAL phase. Investing in 3DTVs right now is the equivalent of people buying those 540p EDTV's (Enhanced Definition TVs) back in 2003-4. Anybody remember those? A few years later, once 1080p TVs and HDMI became standardized, and all the early adopters had an egg on their face.
Once autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, all of these dumbass TVs people are buying right now for $3000 with the rediculous clown glasses will comepletely drop off the map of relevance. The people who bought them will feel as stupid as the people who bought those now worthless 540p EDTVS.
i have a friend who has a 3d television and they look absolutely ridiculous sitting up in the house with those big a** glasses on. not only that but if you are watching tv from the slide it's not clear.3D will NOT be relevant until Autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, so that you wont need rediculous glasses.
Buying ANY 3D technology(not counting the 3DS right now) is stupid because anybody who buys 3D technology right now is buying it during a TRANSITIONAL phase. Investing in 3DTVs right now is the equivalent of people buying those 540p EDTV's (Enhanced Definition TVs) back in 2003-4. Anybody remember those? A few years later, once 1080p TVs and HDMI became standardized, and all the early adopters had an egg on their face.
Once autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, all of these dumbass TVs people are buying right now for $3000 with the rediculous clown glasses will comepletely drop off the map of relevance. The people who bought them will feel as stupid as the people who bought those now worthless 540p EDTVS.
StrongDeadlift
I agree with you 99.9%. Only because I wouldn't mind a 540p TV if it was cheap (which I'm doubting they were at the time), and Sony's new 3DTV Resistance 2 bundle is actually a good deal.3D will NOT be relevant until Autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, so that you wont need rediculous glasses.
Buying ANY 3D technology(not counting the 3DS right now) is stupid because anybody who buys 3D technology right now is buying it during a TRANSITIONAL phase. Investing in 3DTVs right now is the equivalent of people buying those 540p EDTV's (Enhanced Definition TVs) back in 2003-4. Anybody remember those? A few years later, once 1080p TVs and HDMI became standardized, and all the early adopters had an egg on their face.
Once autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, all of these dumbass TVs people are buying right now for $3000 with the rediculous clown glasses will comepletely drop off the map of relevance. The people who bought them will feel as stupid as the people who bought those now worthless 540p EDTVS.
StrongDeadlift
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I can definitely live without 3D but I love the experience on my PC.I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DS Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.tomarlyn
I think they put out a fitness game that sold really well. To be fair, though, they only put garbage and shovelware on Nintendo platforms for the most part, so it's hard to imagine they actually expect good sales.
Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] I wouldn't be surprised. hell I can't even think of a single good game they put on the original DSPurpleMan5000
I think they put out a fitness game that sold really well. To be fair, though, they only put garbage and shovelware on Nintendo platforms for the most part, so it's hard to imagine they actually expect good sales.
So they'd better off abandoning it like they did the Dreamcast?[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Do EA games actually sell on Nintendo platforms? I can't think of any that do really well, except Tiger Woods maybe.tomarlyn
I think they put out a fitness game that sold really well. To be fair, though, they only put garbage and shovelware on Nintendo platforms for the most part, so it's hard to imagine they actually expect good sales.
So they'd better off abandoning it like they did the Dreamcast? If they are losing money they would be. It's hard to tell how much profit they make because shovelware doesn't need tons of sales to be profitable.[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]I agree with you 99.9%. Only because I wouldn't mind a 540p TV if it was cheap (which I'm doubting they were at the time), and Sony's new 3DTV Resistance 2 bundle is actually a good deal.3D will NOT be relevant until Autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, so that you wont need rediculous glasses.
Buying ANY 3D technology(not counting the 3DS right now) is stupid because anybody who buys 3D technology right now is buying it during a TRANSITIONAL phase. Investing in 3DTVs right now is the equivalent of people buying those 540p EDTV's (Enhanced Definition TVs) back in 2003-4. Anybody remember those? A few years later, once 1080p TVs and HDMI became standardized, and all the early adopters had an egg on their face.
Once autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, all of these dumbass TVs people are buying right now for $3000 with the rediculous clown glasses will comepletely drop off the map of relevance. The people who bought them will feel as stupid as the people who bought those now worthless 540p EDTVS.
tomarlyn
The thing about it is, there is literally NOTHING that supports it. At the time, cable/satalite television broadcasts were only in 480p anyways, and remember, there was no Blu Ray or HDDVD back then, so there was literally NOTHING to even support that stuff. All those TVs did was upscale 480p content to 540p.
I loved the 3d on Avatar but every other movie i feel is just a waste of my money.
3D fails because it is poorly done. The 3ds requires you to be still and drains all your battery, then you add the ridiculous prices for 3d TVS to the very few worthile movies/games worth them and it really isn't all that good.
I would love to try UC3 in 3d, everyone says it's great but at this point i really wonder if 3d will be the future.
now we just need pseudo 3d movies to go the way of the dodo...sadly people are sheep and going to these movies in 3d and paying 13-20 dollars a ticket for em...
*shakes head*
3D isn't a gimmick. It just needs to get more convenient. Once glasses-free 3dtv's hit the market at an affordable price, 3D will take off just like HD.Nonstop-Madness
This. Once Autostereoscopic 3D hits the market, it will begin to standardize itself.
But until then, buying a 3DTV right now is the equivalent of buying a 540p EDTV back in 2004. Or one of those 720p component-only HDTVs.
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]It is because; 1. It cost way too much to get a 3D Setup for Consoles. 2. The 3D Experience on Consoles is pretty poor and their are lack of serious games for it. 3D on PC is pretty good and doesn't cost a leg and arm to get into....xsubtownerxThat doesn't make any sense. You need a 3D capable monitor/TV and a GPU capable of 3D vision. Not to mention you need windows Vista or 7. I don't see how this is any cheaper.
3D Monitor costs WAY less then a 3D HDTV. I haven't seen a 3D Monitor that supports HDMI 1.4 yet and supports PS3 3D.
I'm going with this. I've experienced 3D and it's really nothing that special. Tbh it's kinda meh.thats because nobody cares about games in 3D. even the 3D in the 3DS is not a great selling point.
Vinegar_Strokes
i have a friend who has a 3d television and they look absolutely ridiculous sitting up in the house with those big a** glasses on. not only that but if you are watching tv from the slide it's not clear.lmfao. stereoscopic 3d has about a 20-30 degree viewing angle. Autostereoscopic has about a .04 degree viewing angle. You have to be seated directly in front of the moniter or else you lose the 3d effect. This is the only thing stopping it from being put into the market right now.[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]
3D will NOT be relevant until Autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, so that you wont need rediculous glasses.
Buying ANY 3D technology(not counting the 3DS right now) is stupid because anybody who buys 3D technology right now is buying it during a TRANSITIONAL phase. Investing in 3DTVs right now is the equivalent of people buying those 540p EDTV's (Enhanced Definition TVs) back in 2003-4. Anybody remember those? A few years later, once 1080p TVs and HDMI became standardized, and all the early adopters had an egg on their face.
Once autostereoscopic TVs become standardized, all of these dumbass TVs people are buying right now for $3000 with the rediculous clown glasses will comepletely drop off the map of relevance. The people who bought them will feel as stupid as the people who bought those now worthless 540p EDTVS.
helwa1988
It is because; 1. It cost way too much to get a 3D Setup for Consoles. 2. The 3D Experience on Consoles is pretty poor and their are lack of serious games for it. 3D on PC is pretty good and doesn't cost a leg and arm to get into....ShadowDeathX
yeah you only need a 350$ monitor + nvidia gpu + nvidia glasses + IR admitter.
That doesn't make any sense. You need a 3D capable monitor/TV and a GPU capable of 3D vision. Not to mention you need windows Vista or 7. I don't see how this is any cheaper.[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]It is because; 1. It cost way too much to get a 3D Setup for Consoles. 2. The 3D Experience on Consoles is pretty poor and their are lack of serious games for it. 3D on PC is pretty good and doesn't cost a leg and arm to get into....ShadowDeathX
3D Monitor costs WAY less then a 3D HDTV. I haven't seen a 3D Monitor that supports HDMI 1.4 yet and supports PS3 3D.
The reason why the monitor costs less is because it's smaller..That doesn't make any sense. You need a 3D capable monitor/TV and a GPU capable of 3D vision. Not to mention you need windows Vista or 7. I don't see how this is any cheaper.[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]It is because; 1. It cost way too much to get a 3D Setup for Consoles. 2. The 3D Experience on Consoles is pretty poor and their are lack of serious games for it. 3D on PC is pretty good and doesn't cost a leg and arm to get into....ShadowDeathX
3D Monitor costs WAY less then a 3D HDTV. I haven't seen a 3D Monitor that supports HDMI 1.4 yet and supports PS3 3D.
There used to not be any, but that has since changed.The Acer HS244HQ is a 24" HDMI 1.4 1080p monitor. It only costs $399 on newegg [link] and comes with 3D glasses. You can use it on PC, too, with Nvidia's 3DTV Play.
Sony themselves will also release a 24" monitor that comes bundled with Resistance 3 and 3D glasses for $499 soon. [link]
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] That doesn't make any sense. You need a 3D capable monitor/TV and a GPU capable of 3D vision. Not to mention you need windows Vista or 7. I don't see how this is any cheaper.xsubtownerx
3D Monitor costs WAY less then a 3D HDTV. I haven't seen a 3D Monitor that supports HDMI 1.4 yet and supports PS3 3D.
The reason why the monitor costs less is because it's smaller.. Sure, if you chose a Radeon card or still use Windows XP then 3D Vision will cost you a bundle. But 3D Vision is designed for people who already have Windows Vista/7 and an NVidia GPU.As for costs, I have an NVidia 3D Vision setup myself.
I use this 3D Viewsonic monitor, which currently retails for $219: [link] (yes, it's 1680x1050, but I actually like 1680x1050, and needed to upgrade from an old 1440x900 one).
And then there's the 3D Vision Kit, which you can now pickup for $120: [link]
And that's about it. Not so expensive.
I don't really care that not many are getting into 3D and I don't care about how much EA makes off 3D. I only care about my own personnal experience and my next TV with be a 3D HDTV. But I don't plan on getting one for another year or two, so prices should have dropped a bit by then.
movies are mos def better but i have had a pretty good time gaming in 3d.
killzone was a blast and motorsorm apocolypse which i just got has been pretty sweet.
my biggest problem with it in games is it is really hard on the eyes.
movies do not bother me at all but after about an hour with games i shut it off and am done.
you know how some games have that weird transition where when outlines of objects in the foreground cross objects in the background and it's kinda white jaggy and flickery?
when those are in a 3d game it really strains your eyes.
edit: btw crysis 2 was a horrible 3d game. the effect was terrible and the resolution dropped more than any other game i have seen. if that is ea's example then no wonder they are not seeing returns. worst 3d game i have seen by a mile.
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