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#51 kaos-hero
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The numbers posted by -Renegade are accurate but I don't see how that has to do with EA or Sony saving the industry.DaAznSaN


If the numbers are real, then why would he use SDF?! I mean come on, SDF! It's not even a fanboy site, it's more of a troll site ran by people who dislike Sony.
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#52 Popadophalis
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So basically EA earned more money by devloping games for the NDS than they did for the PSP.

...and they earned more money by devloping for the Wii and 360 (sales separately compared) than what they earned by devloping for the PS3

So tell me again how Sony is saving the industry??

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#53 travt-down
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So basically EA earned more money by devloping games for the NDS than they did for the PSP.

...and they earned more money by devloping for the Wii and 360 (sales separately compared) than what they earned by devloping for the PS3

So tell me again how Sony is saving the industry??

Popadophalis

ditto

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#54 GunSmith1_basic
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It's like the SDF thinks its purpose is to remind everyone that the ps2 still exists
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#55 bigevil_rashek
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Wow. i thought lems over emphasised that the 360 had more software sales than the ps3 and wii, but a sony based magazine proves that 360 has much higher sales. Even the wii craps the PS3, i guess so people were right when they said that People buy the PS3 for movies not games(a sony fanboy magazine proves it, lol)
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#56 Dreams-Visions
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right...theflash118
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the logic train is laughable.

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#57 sammysalsa
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well firstly you just owned yourself for using SDF as your source as they are a joke site that exists to actually make fun of the ps3. DUH

and it should be more like; SONY/MS/NINTENDO/EVERYONE: EA ruining the game industr

that is somthing that we can all agree on and form a common goal to eradicate EA forever :D

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#58 Caseytappy
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So its another victory for Sony Family again ?

This is so sad !

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#59 MAILER_DAEMON
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Sony Defense Force has no credibility even in System Wars.
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#60 ImaPirate0202
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...Those numbers are correct:shock:
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#61 LordQuorthon
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This thread failed so bad it actually went all the way around and became awesome.
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#62 CubanBlunt
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EA sport games are the best out there period (prove me wrong). Everyone always wanna bring up sales numbers, well sales number and game play proves it.

360 fanboys dont realize it but, Madden has always been better on the Playstation (Madden 08 was the only weak one out of 8 years). Madden is a big part of EA sales.

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#63 Vectah_Sigma
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Just last week Sony Defense Force reported that Sony not only managed to make a profit last quarter, but the PS3 was also outselling the Xbox 360. To add more insult to injury for Microsoft and Nintendo, EA is reporting in their latest quarterly results that Sony is the reason for the vast majority of their earnings.

Q3 FY08 Sony/EA Revenue:

PS2: $301M

PS3 $102M

PSP $74M

Total Sony Revenue: $477M

How did Sony's competitors manage in comparison? Not well. Thankfully Sony exists in order to keep the industry alive, otherwise we would be witnessing a gaming depression larger than what was exhibited back in the 80's when Atari released E.T. for their gaming system.

Q3 FY08 Nintendo/EA Revenue:

Wii $139M

NDS $122M

Total Nintendo/EA Revenue = $261M

What say you Reggie? Not your problem? When third party software sales are absolutely dismal despite record hardware sales for both the Wii and DS, it is your problem. Apparently, people are picking up the GameCu....err, Wii just to play Wii Sports and couldn't care less about more prominent franchise titles, and especially third party efforts which do not sell on the system. This could spark a long-term trend that will curtail support for Nintendo platforms and lead to stifled sales. But again, Reggie, not your problem? Nintendo's still at least making money themselves, right? Well, you're certainly doing significantly better than our last place contender...

Total Microsoft/EA Revenue = $196M

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Hexagon_777

If we take out the PS2, a last-gen console, then Sony is a distant third. The Wii and 360 are owning the PS3 and the DS is raping the PSP.

But hey, if you're gonna include the PS2, why not include the GameBoy Advance as well? As far I remember, it's still alive as well.

you cant take out the ps2 because its still alive as well and games are still coming out for it

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#64 PSP107
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lets use that money ea and make a true NEXT GEN MADDEN on PS3. More than 4 players support, better graphic engine and gameplay.

this series has been lacking since Madden 05

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#65 Vectah_Sigma
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EA sport games are the best out there period (prove me wrong). Everyone always wanna bring up sales numbers, well sales number and game play proves it.

360 fanboys dont realize it but, Madden has always been better on the Playstation (Madden 08 was the only weak one out of 8 years). Madden is a big part of EA sales.

CubanBlunt

i'm going to add on to this.

so is tiger, nba live, fifa, ssx..all of them and the street series.

but then again....no one like ea right?

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#66 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="-wii60-"]This is a new low from renegade now he's using sony defense force as source :lol:-Renegade

Well it's not like what they are saying this time is not the truth.

It's also not like SDF is a real site and it's also not like SDF is made by people mocking Cows and fanboys...

You do know SDF is fake right? Day one that was pretty obvious. They use every trick in the book, way too obvious fakes... funny though but boring now

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#67 De_Bears
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And yet EA screws us with half baked ports.
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#68 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Sony Defense Force has no credibility even in System Wars.MAILER_DAEMON
Ouch lol

Another joke topic from renegade.

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#69 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]This is a new low from renegade now he's using sony defense force as source :lol:kcpp2b

Well it's not like what they are saying this time is not the truth.

It's also not like SDF is a real site and it's also not like SDF is made by people mocking Cows and fanboys...

You do know SDF is fake right? Day one that was pretty obvious. They use every trick in the book, way too obvious fakes... funny though but boring now

irrelevant

Those numbers are correct.

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#70 Saturos3091
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Yeah, saving EA's lazy behind, not the industry. Companies like EA don't need anymore money, especially when they promise things and don't deliver (much like an even larger corporation, Sony).
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#71 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]This is a new low from renegade now he's using sony defense force as source :lol:ImaPirate0202

Well it's not like what they are saying this time is not the truth.

It's also not like SDF is a real site and it's also not like SDF is made by people mocking Cows and fanboys...

You do know SDF is fake right? Day one that was pretty obvious. They use every trick in the book, way too obvious fakes... funny though but boring now

irrelevant

Those numbers are correct.

According to the source, being SDF? Did you completely miss the point? They have no credibility, therefore the numbers can't be trusted. In any case, numeric discrepancies aside, this just shows that PS3 is leaning on PS2, the last gen console, as a crutch, while X360 and Wii are standing fine on their own.

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#72 FireEmblem_Man
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Hey -Renegade, this just in.

SDF, is owned by wii60.com so this thread= automatic fail.

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#73 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]This is a new low from renegade now he's using sony defense force as source :lol:ImaPirate0202

Well it's not like what they are saying this time is not the truth.

It's also not like SDF is a real site and it's also not like SDF is made by people mocking Cows and fanboys...

You do know SDF is fake right? Day one that was pretty obvious. They use every trick in the book, way too obvious fakes... funny though but boring now

irrelevant

Those numbers are correct.

the numbers are correct (although a little skewed), but its his statements that are false. sony saving the industry? really?

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#74 jimhogg
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Just last week Sony Defense Force reported that Sony not only managed to make a profit last quarter, but the PS3 was also outselling the Xbox 360. To add more insult to injury for Microsoft and Nintendo, EA is reporting in their latest quarterly results that Sony is the reason for the vast majority of their earnings.

Q3 FY08 Sony/EA Revenue:

PS2: $301M

PS3 $102M

PSP $74M

Total Sony Revenue: $477M

How did Sony's competitors manage in comparison? Not well. Thankfully Sony exists in order to keep the industry alive, otherwise we would be witnessing a gaming depression larger than what was exhibited back in the 80's when Atari released E.T. for their gaming system.

Q3 FY08 Nintendo/EA Revenue:

Wii $139M

NDS $122M

Total Nintendo/EA Revenue = $261M

What say you Reggie? Not your problem? When third party software sales are absolutely dismal despite record hardware sales for both the Wii and DS, it is your problem. Apparently, people are picking up the GameCu....err, Wii just to play Wii Sports and couldn't care less about more prominent franchise titles, and especially third party efforts which do not sell on the system. This could spark a long-term trend that will curtail support for Nintendo platforms and lead to stifled sales. But again, Reggie, not your problem? Nintendo's still at least making money themselves, right? Well, you're certainly doing significantly better than our last place contender...

Total Microsoft/EA Revenue = $196M

Source

-Renegade

last i heard is that sony's gaming division has lost about a billion dollars...

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#75 Cronaroth
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LOL-SDF is a SATIRE SITE. Its not even seriously supporting Sony XD
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#76 Eddie5vs1
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Are you seriously citing Sony Defense Force to back up your claim? Seriously? :|

The_Game21x

No kidding. SDF? Please. And Renegade, you may want to compare the software sales of the 360 to just the ps3. No one argued that the ps2 wasn't a juggernaut. Also, you may want to take into consideration that EA makes more money of the compined software sales of the ps2, ps3, AND psp.

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#77 Pariah_001
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If the site is quoting actual EA statments, then why are you all rabbling?
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#78 sexy_chimp
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1. Sony Defence Force...Oh god I hope this is a joke

2. This just proves my theory that cows have no taste in good games since they are buying ****ty EA games

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#79 FuzionZX
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Teh PS3rd place is hiding behind the PS2 :lol:

Please... add up the current gen totals and Sony is dead last

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Sony Defense Force as a reference source = Topic Fail.

These are the same people that gave Halo 3 a 3/10, SMG a 1/10, and Lair a 9/10. They are singularily THE most biased game site on the net, bare none. And they ALWAYS skew the facts to Playstations favor, especially with that "Sony Family" BS.

SDF has LESS credibility than a schizophrenic politician... and the person that uses them for a source....

AdobeArtist
You do know that it is a fake site and is really run by Wii60 fanboys...
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#81 GundamGuy0
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If the site is quoting actual EA statments, then why are you all rabbling?Pariah_001

They are also adding PS2 sales to PS3 and PSP and then comparing it to the Wii and DS...

I wonder why Sony is winning? Could it be the 8 year old console...

It's a joke.

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#82 butteater86
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And Eminem murdered you on your own ****...
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#83 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Sony Defense Force as a reference source = Topic Fail.

These are the same people that gave Halo 3 a 3/10, SMG a 1/10, and Lair a 9/10. They are singularily THE most biased game site on the net, bare none. And they ALWAYS skew the facts to Playstations favor, especially with that "Sony Family" BS.

SDF has LESS credibility than a schizophrenic politician... and the person that uses them for a source....

Truth-slayer

You do know that it is a fake site and is really run by Wii60 fanboys...

As a fanboy site or a fakeboy site, either way, absolutely NO credibility. So nothing has changed about the spirit of my post, with regards to quoting them as a source. Therefore "Topic Failed" still stands :)

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#84 ogvampire
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If the site is quoting actual EA statments, then why are you all rabbling?Pariah_001

yeah, but renegade is taking those statements and adding his own twist how sony is saving the game industry. :roll:

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#85 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]If the site is quoting actual EA statments, then why are you all rabbling?ogvampire

yeah, but renegade is taking those statements and adding his own twist how sony is saving the game industry. :roll:

Not the mention the fact that PS2 sales are being added to these figures...

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#86 LibertySaint
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yeah SDF has the best info :rolls: lol....
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Just last week Sony Defense Force reported that Sony not only managed to make a profit last quarter, but the PS3 was also outselling the Xbox 360. To add more insult to injury for Microsoft and Nintendo, EA is reporting in their latest quarterly results that Sony is the reason for the vast majority of their earnings.

Q3 FY08 Sony/EA Revenue:

PS2: $301M

PS3 $102M

PSP $74M

Total Sony Revenue: $477M

How did Sony's competitors manage in comparison? Not well. Thankfully Sony exists in order to keep the industry alive, otherwise we would be witnessing a gaming depression larger than what was exhibited back in the 80's when Atari released E.T. for their gaming system.

Q3 FY08 Nintendo/EA Revenue:

Wii $139M

NDS $122M

Total Nintendo/EA Revenue = $261M

What say you Reggie? Not your problem? When third party software sales are absolutely dismal despite record hardware sales for both the Wii and DS, it is your problem. Apparently, people are picking up the GameCu....err, Wii just to play Wii Sports and couldn't care less about more prominent franchise titles, and especially third party efforts which do not sell on the system. This could spark a long-term trend that will curtail support for Nintendo platforms and lead to stifled sales. But again, Reggie, not your problem? Nintendo's still at least making money themselves, right? Well, you're certainly doing significantly better than our last place contender...

Total Microsoft/EA Revenue = $196M

Source

-Renegade
you should be banned just for quoting SDF. i actually gave you the benefit of the doubt and figured you were joking. turns out your not.
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#88 beerm_basic
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Just last week Sony Defense Force

-Renegade

:lol: thats as far as i got

SDF using them as reference is pointless

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#89 VirtuaCast
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The PS2 was a huge success the PS3 not so much.
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#90 leviathan91
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Sony Defense Force as a reference source = Topic Fail.

These are the same people that gave Halo 3 a 3/10, SMG a 1/10, and Lair a 9/10. They are singularily THE most biased game site on the net, bare none. And they ALWAYS skew the facts to Playstations favor, especially with that "Sony Family" BS.

SDF has LESS credibility than a schizophrenic politician... and the person that uses them for a source....

AdobeArtist

They gave Halo 3 a "2.5." :P

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#91 club-sandwich
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Just last week Sony Defense Force reported

Blackbond

Stopped reading right there.

First VGChartz and now SDF :|

that really makes me a sad sad sad panda. ):
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#92 Dante2710
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:lol: wow....this is a new low...lol he is using his so "legit article" from SDF :lol::lol::lol: this is priceless
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#93 Gunraidan
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#94 Madbhal402
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]This is a new low from renegade now he's using sony defense force as source :lol:travt-down

Well it's not like what they are saying this time is not the truth.

Half-truths are a clever way of saying lie.

And revenue =/= profit. For all we know EA could have lost money by making games for Sony.

Are you serious a Console with a 120 million userbase including me has alot of software sales for sports Games:shock:

It is kinda sad that the Xbox 360 has more EA software sales then the PS3 and PSP put together

The world of gaming would be a better place if EA never existed

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#95 Madbhal402
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

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#96 Gunraidan
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[QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

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#97 Senor_Kami
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Revenue alone by itself is useless as a judgement on anything. Profit:Revenue or Profit:Cost. Example: A blockbuster brings in $150 million. A sleeper hit indie movie brings in $50M. You might jump and say, "whoa, 3x the money." but you shouldn't. If that blockbuster cost 120 million to make, but the indie movie cost $3 million, the indie is more profitable.

Just using revenue is something thrown out for people with like 3rd grade business knowledge (well, 3rd graders who never ran a lemonade stand or washed cars in the summer to make money). and are amazed by big numbers and don't pay any attention to percentages or costs. Its like how credit card companies will tell you one rate like 8%... but not tell you that with daily compounding that rate is actually like 8.5%. Its just something thrown out there because they figure most people don't know any better and will jump on it.

Profit = Revenue - Cost

Remember that. Spending $5 million to make $4 million just drives you bankrupt at the end of the day.

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#98 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Now your using SDF renegade :lol:

I love how you incluse ps2 profits with the sony family and ony include the DS and Wii for nitendo and just use the 360 for MS :roll:

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#99 glitchgeeman
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Using SDF as source=instant fail.

And this is EA we're talking about. I'm sure they're happy with Sony since they're getting them lots of profit, but I'll wait until someone substantial says that.

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#100 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]It's also not like SDF is a real site and it's also not like SDF is made by people mocking Cows and fanboys...

You do know SDF is fake right? Day one that was pretty obvious. They use every trick in the book, way too obvious fakes... funny though but boring now

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irrelevant

Those numbers are correct.

According to the source, being SDF? Did you completely miss the point? They have no credibility, therefore the numbers can't be trusted. In any case, numeric discrepancies aside, this just shows that PS3 is leaning on PS2, the last gen console, as a crutch, while X360 and Wii are standing fine on their own.

http://kotaku.com/353126/the-ps2-is-still-buttering-eas-bread