EA tech responds to Rants about Madden '08 on the PS3 *Updated*

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#51 LoRising
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i have played both versions of the game, i have the 360 version and a friend of mine is the manager at the gamestop let me play him in the ps3 version of the game. the 360 version is clearly better than the ps3 version animation wise and framerate wise.

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#52 stophatinonprey
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the part where ea said all football games for ps3 had 30 fps reminded me of office space. 30 is the BARE MINIMUM although look at xbox360 hes at 60fps because hes expressing himself. but instead of the ps3 doing the bare minimum its eas fault

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#53 -Spock-
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His response was to be expected. Seriously, it isn't EA's fault, nor is it Sony's. They explicitly stated that they've only been developing for the PlayStation 3 for little over one full year, which is about two years less than on the Xbox 360. Simply put, they are still learning the ins and outs of the hardware, just like every other developer in the world. Even if they are EA, they're still only human. Expect next year's version to run at 60 frames-per-second once they get to grips with the console's architecture.

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#54 -Spock-
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did the devs take this long to understand the 360?Decko5

Actually, yes, they did. Both Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30 frames-per-second on the 360.

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#55 grayfox_2k
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[QUOTE="tman93"]

Then why are you here?

And in here no matter what we use GS scores, mods, fanboys, non fanboys agreed on this when Zelda flopped. Cant change it now when you want owange.

TheOwnerOner

Because its fun watching Cows hide behind GS reviews after all those bias accusations.

PS3 got a free pass to damn right ownage, thanks to a flawed scoring system.

have u ever had a discussion with Casey? no? thought so...

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#56 grayfox_2k
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i seriously don't know why people are turning this into "GS new rating system is Teh Suxx0Rz" kind of thread -_-" we've got a lot of those people, so fanboys move along, nothing to see here
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#57 grayfox_2k
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i have played both versions of the game, i have the 360 version and a friend of mine is the manager at the gamestop let me play him in the ps3 version of the game. the 360 version is clearly better than the ps3 version animation wise and framerate wise.

LoRising

Ok, forget the comments, read the title... now read the OP... now look at your post, looks off-topic now doesn't it?

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#58 OhhSnap50893
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EA summed it up perfectly, although that doesn't change the scores.
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#59 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="Decko5"]did the devs take this long to understand the 360?-Spock-

Actually, yes, they did. Both Madden 06 and 07 ran at 30 frames-per-second on the 360.

/thread.

in fact, they are achieving even greater results with the ps3 within the same time gap.

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#60 no_submission
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I dont care about some pissy football game.
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#61 bluebrad1974
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You all do realize that this is an e-mail from EA Tech Support right? In other words, the same guy you would call if your copy of the Sims didn't work, and you needed a replacement. This person doesn't have a clue about EA'sgame development.
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#62 grayfox_2k
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You all do realize that this is an e-mail from EA Tech Support right? In other words, the same guy you would call if your copy of the Sims didn't work, and you needed a replacement. This person doesn't have a clue about EA'sgame development.bluebrad1974

wow actually i'm really surprised that this has been mentioned in what? the 7th page?

so do people really think that this guy just wipped the answer out of his ass? or do you think that this issue is well known and discussed among most employees? plus the guy sorta gave a tentative answer as he said "i forwarded the letter" to the... other guys (i need to read the OP again :P)... ANWAYS thoughts people?

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#63 Areola54
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and 360 is going to stand still devs on PS3 catch up.

should have sent the letter to Sony asking why they made poor hardware that no one can program for. PS3 been out for 1 1/2 years. devs started work on it before that. anyone heard of those things called ps3 dev kits that were distributed in 2005.

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#64 grayfox_2k
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and 360 is going to stand still devs on PS3 catch up.

should have sent the letter to Sony asking why they made poor hardware that no one can program for. PS3 been out for 1 1/2 years. devs started work on it before that. anyone heard of those things called ps3 dev kits that were distributed in 2005.

Areola54

dev kits of 360 have been distrubuted since early 2004, but no one can deny that the PS3 is hard to program for but we can't blame sony, cuz u know the scapegoat has already taken the blame and got kicked out *coughkenkutaragicough*

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#65 Areola54
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[QUOTE="Areola54"]

and 360 is going to stand still devs on PS3 catch up.

should have sent the letter to Sony asking why they made poor hardware that no one can program for. PS3 been out for 1 1/2 years. devs started work on it before that. anyone heard of those things called ps3 dev kits that were distributed in 2005.

grayfox_2k

dev kits of 360 have been distrubuted since early 2004, but no one can deny that the PS3 is hard to program for but we can't blame sony, cuz u know the scapegoat has already taken the blame and got kicked out *coughkenkutaragicough*

you lie. dev kits just came out before 2005 E3. sure if you call the PC the 360 dev kit, it's been out for years. thats cos MS was intelegent enough to leverage current dev experience when designing a game console.

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#66 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ImagineGamer"]

IGN Madden 08

360: 8.7
PS3: 7.7

haha

grayfox_2k

tsk tsk tsk -_-"

dude ur at the wrong thread, some noobs REALLY take the term "SW" too seriously...

Wrong boards too....this is GS(8.5 )on both games.;)
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#67 grayfox_2k
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[QUOTE="grayfox_2k"][QUOTE="Areola54"]

and 360 is going to stand still devs on PS3 catch up.

should have sent the letter to Sony asking why they made poor hardware that no one can program for. PS3 been out for 1 1/2 years. devs started work on it before that. anyone heard of those things called ps3 dev kits that were distributed in 2005.

Areola54

dev kits of 360 have been distrubuted since early 2004, but no one can deny that the PS3 is hard to program for but we can't blame sony, cuz u know the scapegoat has already taken the blame and got kicked out *coughkenkutaragicough*

you lie. dev kits just came out before 2005 E3. sure if you call the PC the 360 dev kit, it's been out for years. thats cos MS was intelegent enough to leverage current dev experience when designing a game console.

i lie!! well that was uncalled for :cry: plus i'm only echoing what some posters on this thread have said, as i admit that i know nothing about this matter... all i care about is what the tech guy has stated, what makes me even more convinced is gamespot's coverage of the case (in their latest rumor control article)... as they have contacted ... ummm... someone else lol can't rememeber... go read the story lol

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#68 Polaris_choice
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The bottom line: THe PS3 version runs at half the speed of the 360 version. End of story.

Whatever the reason, 360 games are consistently coming out better than their PS3 counterparts.

CubeJL

Sorry but your wrong. Oblivon looks superior on the PS3 and it is the most technically demanding game of any multiplat on both consoles. Armored core 4 also looks better on PS3 so does Fight Night round 3.So no not all multiplats look better on the 360. As far as Ea goes they are trash what do you expect from a company that basically releases the same games year after year and ports them to 10 differnt platforms. Hell they only have a couple decent dev teams thoughout that entire company one being the chicago team who created the FN series.

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#69 VACASCULIADAS
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[QUOTE="CubeJL"]

The bottom line: THe PS3 version runs at half the speed of the 360 version. End of story.

Whatever the reason, 360 games are consistently coming out better than their PS3 counterparts.

Polaris_choice

Sorry but your wrong. Oblivon looks superior on the PS3 and it is the most technically demanding game of any multiplat on both consoles. Armored core 4 also looks better on PS3 so does Fight Night round 3.So no not all multiplats look better on the 360. As far as Ea goes they are trash what do you expect from a company that basically releases the same games year after year and ports them to 10 differnt platforms. Hell they only have a couple decent dev teams thoughout that entire company one being the chicago team who created the FN series.



oblivion on ps3 has some better textures but it looks worse than the xbox360 version in some parts, more jaggies for example. Armored Core looks better on xbox360 check the gamespot review u fill find out that.
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#70 whoisryanmack
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I am really pretty impressed that EA pays anyone to respond to emails like this, regardless of his/her rank in the company. Even if his "passing it on" was total BS, that's still not bad customer service.
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#71 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

The bottom line: THe PS3 version runs at half the speed of the 360 version. End of story.

Whatever the reason, 360 games are consistently coming out better than their PS3 counterparts.

VACASCULIADAS

Sorry but your wrong. Oblivon looks superior on the PS3 and it is the most technically demanding game of any multiplat on both consoles. Armored core 4 also looks better on PS3 so does Fight Night round 3.So no not all multiplats look better on the 360. As far as Ea goes they are trash what do you expect from a company that basically releases the same games year after year and ports them to 10 differnt platforms. Hell they only have a couple decent dev teams thoughout that entire company one being the chicago team who created the FN series.



oblivion on ps3 has some better textures but it looks worse than the xbox360 version in some parts, more jaggies for example. Armored Core looks better on xbox360 check the gamespot review u fill find out that.

Oblivon looks better Period check the gamespot, IGN, Gameformer or Gametrailer reviews it simply looks better in every conceviable way and no it doesnt have more jaggies. It does however have better textures and much faster load times. And gamespot said AC 4 looks better on the PS3 I read the head to head prieview.

Edit: in the review it says the 360 version has slightly better particle effects. But in the head to head comparison it says the PS3 version has better textures. So i guess AC4 gets a draw. I didnt notice much of a differnce between eitehr one but my point still stands on Oblivon it is the most technically demanding multiplat and clearly looks better on the PS3.

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#72 VACASCULIADAS
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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

The bottom line: THe PS3 version runs at half the speed of the 360 version. End of story.

Whatever the reason, 360 games are consistently coming out better than their PS3 counterparts.

Polaris_choice

Sorry but your wrong. Oblivon looks superior on the PS3 and it is the most technically demanding game of any multiplat on both consoles. Armored core 4 also looks better on PS3 so does Fight Night round 3.So no not all multiplats look better on the 360. As far as Ea goes they are trash what do you expect from a company that basically releases the same games year after year and ports them to 10 differnt platforms. Hell they only have a couple decent dev teams thoughout that entire company one being the chicago team who created the FN series.



oblivion on ps3 has some better textures but it looks worse than the xbox360 version in some parts, more jaggies for example. Armored Core looks better on xbox360 check the gamespot review u fill find out that.

Oblivon looks better Period check the gamespot, IGN, Gameformer or Gametrailer reviews it simply looks better in every conceviable way and no it doesnt have more jaggies. It does however have better textures and much faster load times. And gamespot said AC 4 looks better on the PS3 I read the head to head prieview.



I agree about the textures and load time, but i does have more jaggies and looks ugly in some parts compare to the xbox360 version, and Preview=/=Review.

''The Xbox 360 version and PS3 version are functionally the same in nearly every respect, but you will find that, surprisingly, the Xbox 360 version will look a tad better, particularly in atmospheric particle effects. Otherwise, the only real difference between the two is the 360's achievement points.''

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sim/armoredcore4/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=1
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#73 grayfox_2k
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UPDATE: EA Player Relations: Devs will respond to PS3's Madden 08' Issues N4G Link
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#74 darthogre
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Exactly what Ive been saying. Its not the technical limitations of the PS3. Its just that the devs dont understand the hardware yet.

Fanboys saying PS3 cant handle 60 fps should shut up after reading this.

asdasd

Wait a minute, you can read it the other way as well:

"While we fully understand your frustration with the limitations the technology has placed against the video frames per second of the game play on the PlayStation 3 game console"

That sounds to me he is suggesting the limitations are from the PS3 no? Maybe I'm missreading what he said.