EA: The way PS3 Dev Tools work Just ****

http://n4g.com./News-63031.aspx

Thoughs?

People will now proceed to say that EA suck/are lazy.whocares4peace

No, Sony just isn't a software company. They don't know as much about how to design APIs as Microsoft, which has been doing it for nigh twenty years.

People will now proceed to say that EA suck/are lazy.whocares4peace

I don't trust any interview that doesn't name the person they talked to especially when it comes from a site that's dedicated to one system.

http://n4g.com./News-63031.aspx

Thoughs?

Ravens1995

i like how you didn't link to the original source xbox evolved, sorry this thread fails. an xbox site doing an interview where they fail to mention the developers name and he bashes the ps3...

it's so funny how EA is one of the only devs complaining. im buying 2k sports games now atleast they're not lazy F**Ktards

it's so funny how EA is one of the only devs complaining. im buying 2k sports games now atleast they're not lazy F**Ktards

KEM92

but we really don't have the time to mess with how the PS3 works .... LMAO

lazy dev right there this will bite them in the ass when sony 1st party games make EA games look puffy....

What a load of crap. EA is terribleLatinoheat47

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

From that same quote..."It will change in the future"

PS3 is still in its infancy in terms of developers being used to it.

[QUOTE="KEM92"]

it's so funny how EA is one of the only devs complaining. im buying 2k sports games now atleast they're not lazy F**Ktards

phantas777

pc devs ?

i dont hear old school playstation devs complain....

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

but we really don't have the time to mess with how the PS3 works .... LMAO

lazy dev right there this will bite them in the ass when sony 1st party games make EA games look puffy....

legalize3

LOL your're playing Def Jam Icon and dissing EA, self owned

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

EA isn't the biggest developer in the world because they're crap. EA has some of the best developers out there, like EA Los Angeles. They have different tiers of quality, but they all know what they are doing.

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

this all aside Burnout paradise might actually be a change for the better

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblelegalize3

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA owns Criterion.

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleSpruceCaboose

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

true, still an EA game though.

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleSpruceCaboose

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

So? Metroid Prime is made by Retro, and Nintendo bought Retro, but it's still a Nintendo game. Criterion is a part of EA, as is Maxis and Westwood.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

but we really don't have the time to mess with how the PS3 works .... LMAO

lazy dev right there this will bite them in the ass when sony 1st party games make EA games look puffy....

Kayrod29

LOL your're playing Def Jam Icon and dissing EA, self owned

and it was the biggest mistake...

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblelegalize3

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA has been making sports games since PS1, there goes your last arguement.

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]People will now proceed to say that EA suck/are lazy.mjarantilla

No, Sony just isn't a software company. They don't know as much about how to design APIs as Microsoft, which has been doing it for nigh twenty years.

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblemjarantilla

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA owns Criterion.

doesnt mean they made the game

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA has been making sports games since PS1, there goes your last arguement.

and always crappy from start

the only thing they are good at are buying studios

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblelegalize3

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA owns Criterion.

doesnt mean they made the game

Yes it does. Or are you going to say EA didn't make Battle for Middle-Earth because EA Los Angeles did it?

Criterion is an EA studio, like it or not, the same as EA Los Angeles, EA Tiburon, EA Canada, and a host of others.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

mjarantilla

So? Metroid Prime is made by Retro, and Nintendo bought Retro, but it's still a Nintendo game. Criterion is a part of EA, as is Maxis and Westwood.

Its not the same thing.

We don't consider Halo to be a Microsoft game. Its always a Bungie game, because the developer has proven themselves worthy of being thought of as seperate.

Criterion is talented on their own. To lump them in with EA is a disservice.

it's not like EA are the only 3rd party that said the ps3 isn't as easy to program for. what else is new?Ontain

can u plz name several other 3rd parties?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

mjarantilla

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

So? Metroid Prime is made by Retro, and Nintendo bought Retro, but it's still a Nintendo game. Criterion is a part of EA, as is Maxis and Westwood.

nintendo made retro, ea didn't make criterion. criiterion was already a devleoper who made games before ea purchased them.

and always crappy from start

the only thing they are good at are buying studios

legalize3

Going to have to disagree again with you. NBA Live 2000 was the best basketball game they made, and it was on PS1. Look to keep this from going any further, yes EA does suck to some extent, but it's not like they don't make enjoyable games. There are worst companies then EA. Hell, right now, EA is doing better then Sega at making games. and yes Def Jam Icon did suck.

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblemjarantilla

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA owns Criterion.

doesnt mean they made the game

Yes it does. Or are you going to say EA didn't make Battle for Middle-Earth because EA Los Angeles did it?

Criterion is an EA studio, like it or not, the same as EA Los Angeles, EA Tiburon, EA Canada, and a host of others.

no you ......... thats not the point i was making the point was EA is not making burnout criterion is...

so you wanna say EA makes crysis ?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Its made by Crierion. EA just bought them and publishes it.

SpruceCaboose

So? Metroid Prime is made by Retro, and Nintendo bought Retro, but it's still a Nintendo game. Criterion is a part of EA, as is Maxis and Westwood.

Its not the same thing.

We don't consider Halo to be a Microsoft game. Its always a Bungie game, because the developer has proven themselves worthy of being thought of as seperate.

Criterion is talented on their own. To lump them in with EA is a disservice.

What's the difference between Criterion and Maxis and EA Los Angeles, EA Tiburon, EA Salt Lake, and EA Canada? Absolutely nothing, except that they have different names and specialize in a different type of game.

There is no central "EA studio" that you can blame for all of their bad games. EA is a COLLECTION of studios, just like Ubisoft. The only reason EA hasn't renamed Criterion or Maxis is because those studios have their own name brand association, just like Lexus and Scion have their name brand association separate from Toyota.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

and always crappy from start

the only thing they are good at are buying studios

Kayrod29

Going to have to disagree again with you. NBA Live 2000 was the best basketball game they made, and it was on PS1. Look to keep this from going any further, yes EA does suck to some extent, but it's not like they don't make enjoyable games. There are worst companies then EA. Hell, right now, EA is doing better then Sega at making games. and yes Def Jam Icon did suck.

EA is only good at madden and thats it maybe ssx....

most of EA games are lackluster

[QUOTE="Ontain"]it's not like EA are the only 3rd party that said the ps3 isn't as easy to program for. what else is new?darkflame_100

can u plz name several other 3rd parties?

it's already posted and also generally accepted that the cell is the most difficult to program for because it's the most different from conventional processors and thus conventional programming techniques that were in place.

What's the difference between Criterion and Maxis and EA Los Angeles, EA Tiburon, EA Salt Lake, and EA Canada? Absolutely nothing, except that they have different names and specialize in a different type of game.

There is no central "EA studio" that you can blame for all of their bad games. EA is a COLLECTION of studios, just like Ubisoft. The only reason EA hasn't renamed Criterion or Maxis is because those studios have their own name brand association, just like Lexus and Scion have their name brand association separate from Toyota.

mjarantilla

The difference is that all those studios were successful and making games before becoming part of EA. EA just bought them out. All the EA branded studios were created internally. Its very different if you actually stop to think about it.

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terriblemjarantilla

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

criterion ? last time i checked its not EA was the publisher....

do you hearcriterion complain ? no because they where building games on playstation in the early days

if you never made a game on playstation you will have a hard time...

EA owns Criterion.

doesnt mean they made the game

Yes it does. Or are you going to say EA didn't make Battle for Middle-Earth because EA Los Angeles did it?

Criterion is an EA studio, like it or not, the same as EA Los Angeles, EA Tiburon, EA Canada, and a host of others.

no you ......... thats not the point i was making the point was EA is not making burnout criterion is...

so you wanna say EA makes crysis ?

You wanna say Mario isn't made by Nintendo? Because technically it's EAD Tokyo that develops Mario.

CryTek is an independent developer. They aren't owned or controlled in any way by EA. But EA owns and controls Criterion and Maxis, and like it or not they are as much EA as EA Tiburon or EA Los Angeles.

criterion already had their own staff before EA bought them..

the only thing EA does is give them money, so criterion can make the game

[QUOTE="Latinoheat47"]What a load of crap. EA is terribleKayrod29

but whats the number one racing game that noobs that hate racing sims like? Burnout. Made by? Exactly. Oh and another thing, thier baseball games were way better then 2K's.

too bad the Show is also better than 2k's and PS3 owners dont have to rely on 2K sports for baseball. MVP Baseball is gone.

How do you know their staff HASN'T been replaced? Staff turnover is extremely high in the games industry. I work for a software company, and with the exception of our QC staff, we've completely changed out software developer staff since I joined two years ago. I'm only two years out of college, but if seniority were measured with time with the company, I'm like #5 out of a team of about 50, not including the C-level management.

mjarantilla

and im the son of god.....

How do you know their staff HASN'T been replaced? Staff turnover is extremely high in the games industry. I work for a software company, and with the exception of our QC staff, we've completely changed out software developer staff since I joined two years ago. I'm only two years out of college, but if seniority were measured with time with the company, I'm like #5 out of a team of about 50, not including the C-level management.

mjarantilla

And how do you know they were replaced?

I loved this part, ""The truth is they are both virtually the same in terms of hardware when it comes to how powerful they are, maybe the PS3 has a few different things that makes it a bit more advance". A bit more advance? How could a developer not know if the PS3 is more advanced or not? Does the PS3 have hidden powahz??? I also love how "a developer on the Nascar series". No name, no photo, no mention of when the developer in question was even asked the question. Whoever believes this must also believe the statement "Valve" made about the 360 almost being maxed out with Orange Box while the PS3 handles the game no problem with just its GPU and barely any help from Cell.LuvGaming