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#101 WilliamRLBaker
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I bet the real Worst Companies in America (American Oil companies, Bank of America, landfill companies, whatever) are happy that EA rages Nerds as this was determined by voters that go to the consumerist, instead of factual data and evidence.

Angry Organized Nerds (aka also many young kids/teens) saved the REAL companies responsible for the recession, pollution, etc to point fingers at a Videogame company. EA aren't saints (nor are Activision, lolz), but by god, this is disgraceful as the real culprits get to laugh at this, and continue on doing sh** that's actually ruining our quality of life, destroying the eco system, taking our houses and jobs...

Videogame companies shouldn't even be on the list, there are a terrible companies in the world that don't entertain us, and they are saved by a flawed system in this poll.

SolidTy

*claps*

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#102 WilliamRLBaker
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by the way did anyone notice how Microsoft wasn't in the running yet sony was?

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#103 HalcyonScarlet
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[quote="EAs response"]In a statement to Kotaku, EA Senior Director of Corporate Communications John Reseburg said:

We're sure that British Petroleum, AIG, Philip Morris, and Halliburton are all relieved they weren't nominated this year. We're going to continue making award-winning games and services played by more than 300 million people worldwide.SciFiRPGfan


sauce: kotaku

British Petroleum... Worst company in America. :? :(

It's an American Company now.

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#104 SciFiRPGfan
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I bet the real Worst Companies in America (American Oil companies, Bank of America, landfill companies, whatever) are happy that EA rages Nerds as this was determined by voters that go to the consumerist, instead of factual data and evidence.

Angry Organized Nerds (aka also many young kids/teens) saved the REAL companies responsible for the recession, pollution, etc to point fingers at a Videogame company. EA aren't saints (nor are Activision, lolz), but by god, this is disgraceful as the real culprits get to laugh at this, and continue on doing sh** that's actually ruining our quality of life, destroying the eco system, taking our houses and jobs...

Videogame companies shouldn't even be on the list, there are a terrible companies in the world that don't entertain us, and they are saved by a flawed system in this poll.

WilliamRLBaker

*claps*

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it could be argued that the principles on which the list of nominated companies was based was wrong, because it mixes the companies which can hurt consumers in such ways, that the deeds of other competing companies can look like minor annoynces at best in comparison to them with those other "relatively harmless" harmless companies.

But given, how the list of participants was composed, one can't argue that Bank of America is worse than EA, unless they can prove that it has done worse things in comparison to what other banks how done this year than EA has done in comparison to what other publishers have done.

Don't get me wrong, maybe it indeed has done even relatively worse things than EA - I dunno because I don't have any experience with them I know about, unless the behaviour of some of the banks in EU can be directly deduced from theirs -, but in all this discussion, I am missing an opinion of Americans and people who have dealt with both companies about which one was worse in relative terms - i.e. EA as publisher or BoA as bank at fulfilling their respective duties and treating their customers correctly.

It's an American Company now.HalcyonScarlet
How so?

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#105 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

F*cking gamers. As awful as EA is, last I checked they weren't a significant cause of a global f*cking recession because they were too stupid and/or corrupt to understand/abide by basic economics.

drinkerofjuice

Basically this. Anyone with half a brain knows they're far from being the worst company in America. How they were even considered for the list is puzzling.

Everyone else on the list is likely for bad business practices, EA because the gaming babies are all upset about the Mass Effect 3 ending or something.

Seriously, if raging nerds focused as much effort on getting laid...

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#106 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"] *claps*SciFiRPGfan

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it could be argued that the principles on which the list of nominated companies was based was wrong, because it mixes the companies which can hurt consumers in such ways, that the deeds of other competing companies can look like minor annoynces at best in comparison to them with companies which are relatively harmless.

But given, how the list of participants was composed, one can't argue that Bank of America is worse than EA, unless they can prove that it has done worse things in comparison to what other banks how done this year than EA has done in comparison to what other publishers have done.

Don't get me wrong, maybe it indeed has done even relatively worse things than EA - I dunno because I don't have any experience with them I know about, unless the behaviour of some of the banks in EU can be directly deduced from theirs -, but in all this discussion, I am missing an opinion of Americans and people who have dealt with both companies about which one was worse in relative terms - i.e. EA as publisher or BoA as bank at fulfilling their duties and treating their customers correctly.

It's an American Company now.HalcyonScarlet
How so?

no just no way to argue that a company that makes video games a hobby is some how worse then either a bank that ruins lives or an oil company that I do believe had a huge oil spill in 2011 except for the fact they were morons.

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#107 RoccoHout
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Could it be that Activision simply bribed them to let EA win the ''Worst Company of America'' title? Looks like its really something Activision would do...

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#108 Khoo1992
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Worse than banks? wow, that's impressive :P

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#109 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"] *claps*SciFiRPGfan

That's an interesting thought. Maybe it could be argued that the principles on which the list of nominated companies was based was wrong, because it mixes the companies which can hurt consumers in such ways, that the deeds of other competing companies can look like minor annoynces at best in comparison to them with those other "relatively harmless" harmless companies.

But given, how the list of participants was composed, one can't argue that Bank of America is worse than EA, unless they can prove that it has done worse things in comparison to what other banks how done this year than EA has done in comparison to what other publishers have done.

Don't get me wrong, maybe it indeed has done even relatively worse things than EA - I dunno because I don't have any experience with them I know about, unless the behaviour of some of the banks in EU can be directly deduced from theirs -, but in all this discussion, I am missing an opinion of Americans and people who have dealt with both companies about which one was worse in relative terms - i.e. EA as publisher or BoA as bank at fulfilling their respective duties and treating their customers correctly.

It's an American Company now.HalcyonScarlet
How so?

It's a bit complicated (as in a little unclear), but they merged with an American company Amoco and the biggest shareholder invester firm is American, JPMorgan Chase.

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no just no way to argue that a company that makes video games a hobby is some how worse then either a bank that ruins lives or an oil company that I do believe had a huge oil spill in 2011 except for the fact they were morons.WilliamRLBaker

Well then I would blame mostly the Consumerist itself, because they probably haven't defined the rules according to which the voters should have assesed the companies properly.

For example, a hypothetical question: Which company would be worse, the one that "robs you off (because of bad services or goods and treatment)" 15000$ when other companies in that industry "rob you" only off let's say 10 000$... or a company that "robs you off" 30$ but the similar companies would only ask for 10$?

In absolute terms it would be the first one because you would "loose" 5000$ as opposed to 20$, in relative, probably the second one because they would charge 200% more in comparison to other companies (30$ in comparison to 10$)as opposed to 50% additional charge in the first case (15 000$ to 10 000$).


So, I don't know... But I am convinced that this should have been cleared out before the polls have heppened. And since it didn't and yet they nominated so different companies (Facebook, Walmart, Bank of America), I am more inclined to believe that they expected us to make relative comparisons not the absolute ones - which still does not mean that people couldn't have got it wrong anyway and BoA was worse bank than EA was publisher... But that's why I want guys like you(?), who have knowledge and experience(?) with both companies, to discuss which one is worse.

It's a bit complicated (as in a little unclear), but they merged with an American company Amoco and the biggest shareholder invester firm is American, JPMorgan Chase.HalcyonScarlet
Finally something interesting on SW. Still, I guess we would have to check both respective British and American law to be sure how to look at it. But that much is obvious that BP could and used to participate in this contest.

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#111 svenus97
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Oh, how many people have selective memories.

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#112 nini200
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I remember back in the day when Electronic Arts were just starting up and they had some amazing titles. EA Sports "It's in the game", Electronic Arts. Akklaim, Activision, Rare, Data East, Treasure, Midway and others. Once they got money, they started getting a big ego. I still like EA for the Medal of Honor series and Battlefield but they need to go back to their ways of the good ol days

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I think I know what this is about: http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222404p1.html

Americans don't tolerate gay people.

These guys are likely to push harder than the raging nerds.

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I think I know what this is about: http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222404p1.html

Americans don't tolerate gay people.

These guys are likely to push harder than the raging nerds.

HalcyonScarlet
Yep, you nailed, people voted for EA because they're all homphobes. Couldn't be because of their shady business practices and greedy policies....
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#116 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

I think I know what this is about: http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222404p1.html

Americans don't tolerate gay people.

These guys are likely to push harder than the raging nerds.

Frostbite24

Yep, you nailed, people voted for EA because they're all homphobes. Couldn't be because of their shady business practices and greedy policies....

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

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#117 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

I think I know what this is about: http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222404p1.html

Americans don't tolerate gay people.

These guys are likely to push harder than the raging nerds.

HalcyonScarlet

Yep, you nailed, people voted for EA because they're all homphobes. Couldn't be because of their shady business practices and greedy policies....

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

* Online passes

* Forcing users to use Origin

* Destroying and shutting down incredible developers (Westwood, Origin Systems, Bullfrog, Pandemic, etc.)

* Horrible DRM practices

* Forcing out competition to have a monopoly on sports titles

* Horrible customer service

* Rampant employee abuse

* Manipulating media outlets

* Nickel-and-dime DLC

* Shutting down multiplayer servers for games after only a year

* Excessive, nonstop milkage of core IPs

* Publicly insulting other development teams

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I could go on and on and on.

Even Activision says that EA is a horrible publisher.

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#118 svenus97
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Yep, you nailed, people voted for EA because they're all homphobes. Couldn't be because of their shady business practices and greedy policies....peterw007

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

* Online passes - So ?

* Forcing users to use Origin - Again, so ? Valve forces users to use Steam, MS forces users to use XBL, and so on.

* Destroying and shutting down incredible developers (Westwood, Origin Systems, Bullfrog, Pandemic, etc.) - It's buisness, not like their executives play some game in which they decide who to fire.

* Horrible DRM practices - I think you are thinking of UbiSoft

* Forcing out competition to have a monopoly on sports titles - So ?

* Horrible customer service - You are pulling this out of your ass, have you ever even contanced them ?

* Rampant employee abuse - Look above.

* Manipulating media outlets - Look above.

* Nickel-and-dime DLC - I agree, somewhat.

* Shutting down multiplayer servers for games after only a year - If no one plays the game, then duh.

* Excessive, nonstop milkage of core IPs - Liiiiike ?

* Publicly insulting other development teams - Proof ?

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I could go on and on and on.

Even Activision says that EA is a horrible publisher.

Respone in quote, also, are you sure the results have nothing to do with a vocal minority being mad about ME3?

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#119 peterw007
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

svenus97

* Online passes - So ?

A massive amount of people think online passes are horrible and incredibly greedy.

* Forcing users to use Origin - Again, so ? Valve forces users to use Steam, MS forces users to use XBL, and so on.

For PC games, it's unwarranted and anti-competitive. EA made Origin for the sole purpose of greed, even though there are plenty of DD services already in place.

* Destroying and shutting down incredible developers (Westwood, Origin Systems, Bullfrog, Pandemic, etc.) - It's buisness, not like their executives play some game in which they decide who to fire.

No, you don't understand. When EA purchased them they decided they "needed a new direction," which led to their new games becoming unsuccessful, and ultimately their dissolution. EA is reponsible for their untimely demises.

* Horrible DRM practices - I think you are thinking of UbiSoft

I'll give you one example: Spore.

* Forcing out competition to have a monopoly on sports titles - So ?

Anti-competitive practices are the mark of a horrible publisher. Video game companies should promote--not dissuade--competition.

* Horrible customer service - You are pulling this out of your ass, have you ever even contanced them ?

Many, many, many, many people have had lots of problems with EA's mediocre customer service.

* Rampant employee abuse - Look above.

I point you to the lawsuits brought to EA for withholding due pay for developers who were forced to work overtime.

* Manipulating media outlets - Look above.

In one instance, EA has been caught trying to manipulate Battlefield 3 review scores.

* Nickel-and-dime DLC - I agree, somewhat.

* Shutting down multiplayer servers for games after only a year - If no one plays the game, then duh.

Multiplayer servers are not that costly to maintain, especially if there's a small (but dedicated) fanbase still playing them. Again, an example of EA's incredible greed.

* Excessive, nonstop milkage of core IPs - Liiiiike ?

Need for Speed, The Sims, Battlefield, Madden, to name four.

* Publicly insulting other development teams - Proof ?

In one instance EA said "All we want to do is rot Activision from the core."

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I could go on and on and on.

Even Activision says that EA is a horrible publisher.

Respone in quote, also, are you sure the results have nothing to do with a vocal minority being mad about ME3?

Oh look, an EA fanboy.

No...EA has been widely considered a terrible publisher for quite a long time now.

I could spend all day talking about all of the negative baggage EA has accumulated throughout its murderous reign, so I won't really go into it comprehensively, but I will mention a couple of things.

My responses are in bold.

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#120 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Yep, you nailed, people voted for EA because they're all homphobes. Couldn't be because of their shady business practices and greedy policies....peterw007

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

* Online passes

* Forcing users to use Origin

* Destroying and shutting down incredible developers (Westwood, Origin Systems, Bullfrog, Pandemic, etc.)

* Horrible DRM practices

* Forcing out competition to have a monopoly on sports titles

* Horrible customer service

* Rampant employee abuse

* Manipulating media outlets

* Nickel-and-dime DLC

* Shutting down multiplayer servers for games after only a year

* Excessive, nonstop milkage of core IPs

* Publicly insulting other development teams

-

I could go on and on and on.

Even Activision says that EA is a horrible publisher.

No please, go on. Because those don't make them the "worst" company in America, it makes them the worst in the industry.

Excessive milkage is nigh on a trend now.

As is nickle and dime DLC.

The DRM is not only restricted to them, but they as others are trying so damn hard to fight piracy.

Origin, well what can you say, they want a piece of that STEAM pie.

I doubt they are the only ones who manipulate the media, especially compared to the rest of the companies in America.

Customer services, again I doubt they are the worst in America let alone the games industry.

They probably aren't the only ones to engulf studios.

I'll give you the sports titles, online passes and shutting down servers.

I don't know about the employee abuse, but they aren't the only ones, Activision, Tecmo come to mind.

Publicly insulting other development teams, don't they all do that.

All the worst of that is internal to the games industry, i'll bet there are companies in America with worse practices.

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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

How shady are their practices exactly, that they went to the top of that list?

Greedy policies?

HalcyonScarlet

* Online passes

* Forcing users to use Origin

* Destroying and shutting down incredible developers (Westwood, Origin Systems, Bullfrog, Pandemic, etc.)

* Horrible DRM practices

* Forcing out competition to have a monopoly on sports titles

* Horrible customer service

* Rampant employee abuse

* Manipulating media outlets

* Nickel-and-dime DLC

* Shutting down multiplayer servers for games after only a year

* Excessive, nonstop milkage of core IPs

* Publicly insulting other development teams

-

I could go on and on and on.

Even Activision says that EA is a horrible publisher.

No please, go on. Because those don't make them the "worst" company in America, it makes them the worst in the industry.

Excessive milkage is nigh on a trend now.

As is nickle and dime DLC.

The DRM is not only restricted to them, but they as others are trying so damn hard to fight piracy.

Origin, well what can you say, they want a piece of that STEAM pie.

I doubt they are the only ones who manipulate the media, especially compared to the rest of the companies in America.

Customer services, again I doubt they are the worst in America let alone the games industry.

They probably aren't the only ones to engulf studios.

I'll give you the sports titles, online passes and shutting down servers.

I don't know about the employee abuse, but they aren't the only ones, Activision, Tecmo come to mind.

Publicly insulting other development teams, don't they all do that.

All the worst of that is internal to the games industry, i'll bet there are companies in America with worse practices.

The "worst company in America" award is a poll based on consumer opinion. All this means is that the majority of people that voted in their polls think that EA was the worst company of the year. This is like People magazine choosing "The sexiest man alive" once a year. Is it a fact? No. Just people voicing their opinions.
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#122 StrongDeadlift
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Is it just me, or is the internet gaming community one of the most annoying, saddest collective body of individuals I have ever seen? you guys act like entitled spoiled brats. Seriously.....

All the gaming community ever does is cry, complain, wine, b*tch and moan. Its just f*cking videogames god damn. The E.A. rep was right. If you think what E.A. is doing is anywhere near as relevant or significant in REAL LIFE to the Banks and gas companies.......well, thats all I have to say about that.

Seriously, you all should be ashamed of youreslves over the things you b*tch about. Oh noes, Mass Effect 3 had a crappy ending!!! Worst company evar!!! :roll:

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#123 EllieStranger
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Is it just me, or is the internet gaming community one of the most annoying, saddest collective body of individuals I have ever seen?

StrongDeadlift


And yet here you are. Nothing better to do. With an account on a gaming website. Reading opinions from people you consider lower than yourself. You by the way have even more posts than me. And I registered in 2009 and you registered in 2010.

Shut up.

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Complainers who complain about complainers complaining are the worst complainers in my opinion, not to complain.
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#125 vashkey
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Complainers who complain about complainers complaining are the worst complainers in my opinion, not to complain.Kell_the_Gamer
But It's worse to complain about those who are complaining about complainers
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#126 DarkLink77
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The fact that EA beat out companies like Bank of America, Comcast, AT&T, and Walmart because of a bunch of angry nerds is absolutely pathetic.

No wonder no one takes gamers seriously.

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In other new, the general populous of gamers and those just loosely aware of gaming prove they, by in large, have no perspective.
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#128 StrongDeadlift
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The fact that EA beat out companies Bank of America, Comcast, AT&T, and Walmart because of a bunch of angry nerds is absolutely pathetic.

No wonder no one takes gamers seriously.

DarkLink77

SO MUCH PHUCKING THIS.