Economy is going to hit the PS3 the hardest....

market down again and 60 percent of people fear a depression. I highly doubt people are going to overlook the wii or the arcade for this holiday season compared to the 400 dollar PS3 without a game bundled in it. Oh well..... IM thinking 3-1 the 360 outselling the PS3 this holiday season. Your thoughts....

probably 2-1, the sell ratio should be equavalent to the price ratio 400:200 wile315

2-1 is the safe bet for sure...

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

FragTycoon

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

Sucks when you design a expensive product not thinking about the unstable nature of the economy.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

Metsvideogame

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

xbox360isgr8t

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

Metsvideogame

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

you can blame bush if you want. but its not all his fault.

9/11 would have happened no matter what

the war in afghanistan would have happened no matter what

only thing you can blame him for is maybe iraq

the reason for a economic crisis and the Gov needing to bailout the banks is because of clinton and his policies that allowed for it to happen.

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

xbox360isgr8t

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

you can blame bush if you want. but its not all his fault.

9/11 would have happened no matter what

the war in afghanistan would have happened no matter what

only thing you can blame him for is maybe iraq

the reason for a economic crisis and the Gov needing to bailout the banks is because of clinton and his policies that allowed for it to happen.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

Metsvideogame

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

I love how people act like there is only one branch of government any more. Never mind the house/senate passed the largest pork bill I have ever experienced in my lifetime.

I might as well watch The View talk about what candidates use Botox.

A little more on topic... I know it will be a rough time but America might just need this recession to get a swift kick in the arse. 20k a year =/= home entertainment system + buying a house + new car + 5 kids + 4 credit cards.

Unless we are severly cash strapped, the games industry wont be affectedFirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

FragTycoon

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

I love how people act like there is only one branch of government any more. Never mind the house/senate passed the largest pork bill I have ever experienced in my lifetime.

I might as well watch The View talk about what candidates use Botox.

A little more on topic... I know it will be a rough time but America might just need this recession to get a swift kick in the arse. 20k a year =/= home entertainment system + buying a house + new car + 5 kids + 4 credit cards.

Hopefully nintendo will realize that they should lower their prices of their 50$ hardware sometime soon.. Or MS can just beat em in sales.

Thats what I think too. The PS3 is like a gas guzzling big truck while the 360 and Wii are hybrids.

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

Metsvideogame

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

As president you get credit for the good or bad whether you deserve it or not. That's because you are the face people put to the government. And read this link then look at the date:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1"

5 years ago Bush wanted controls on Fannie and Freddie

Anyway I don't think it's going to be just PS3 sales that slack, I think demand for everything might be light this year. I think Ninty will do better than MS and Sony.

Thats what I think too. The PS3 is like a gas guzzling big truck while the 360 and Wii are hybrids.

ReverseCycology

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Unless we are severly cash strapped, the games industry wont be affectedblue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

blue_hazy_basic

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

I love how people act like there is only one branch of government any more. Never mind the house/senate passed the largest pork bill I have ever experienced in my lifetime.

I might as well watch The View talk about what candidates use Botox.

A little more on topic... I know it will be a rough time but America might just need this recession to get a swift kick in the arse. 20k a year =/= home entertainment system + buying a house + new car + 5 kids + 4 credit cards.

Aw cmon man I love it when people discuss politics on a gaming forum.Its such a refreshing break from my sw addiction it feels good

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

blue_hazy_basic

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

I love how people act like there is only one branch of government any more. Never mind the house/senate passed the largest pork bill I have ever experienced in my lifetime.

I might as well watch The View talk about what candidates use Botox.

A little more on topic... I know it will be a rough time but America might just need this recession to get a swift kick in the arse. 20k a year =/= home entertainment system + buying a house + new car + 5 kids + 4 credit cards.

I don't get it, let me see if this is right - you can't discuss politics in the forum but you can have political propaganda in your signature???

I don't get it, let me see if this is right - you can't discuss politics in the forum but you can have political propaganda in your signature???

thew13

BioShockOwnz really summed it up. This was Clinton's idea for the American Dream for everyone. Democrats put us into this mess. Not the Bush Administration. Sony won't be hitting 2 so. yeah 360 will still sell more. But not because of the economic problem. Theoretically it might affect their sales but I believe their sales will be what they would've been without this bailout.SonyMarksman70

yeah ok Clinton went into IRAQ based on flawed intelligence about weapons of mass destruction. 8 years of this garbage president and 6 years of full control of a republican congress. HOw people forget..... lol....

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

I can see Sony announcng a price drop before next month. Market share is too important for Sony to lose.

ah Bush got us into this mess in IRaq with Lies and you know how much the war cost us Americans? Trillions, we had no right going into that stupid country and we will be spending our money over there and gas prices will continue to rise. Good job Bush, and the people who supported him and the war. Good job.... Metsvideogame

You mean peiople who supported the war like both Clintons, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Edwards, Dodd etc. ?

the war has been expensive but it hasn't reached one trillion yet forget multiple trillions

Do you really think the price of gas has anything to do with the war in Iraq?

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

I can see Sony announcng a price drop before next month. Market share is too important for Sony to lose.

jharv

Sony already announced there wouldn't be anymore price drop for this year. But knowing Sony's track record they can always pull an 180 and announce a price drop or a switcharoo clearance sale.

[QUOTE="jharv"]

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

I can see Sony announcng a price drop before next month. Market share is too important for Sony to lose.

ReverseCycology

Sony already announced there wouldn't be anymore price drop for this year. But knowing Sony's track record they can always pull an 180 and announce a price drop or a switcharoo clearance sale.

Exactly

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

xbox360isgr8t

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

you can blame bush if you want. but its not all his fault.

9/11 would have happened no matter what

the war in afghanistan would have happened no matter what

only thing you can blame him for is maybe iraq

the reason for a economic crisis and the Gov needing to bailout the banks is because of clinton and his policies that allowed for it to happen.

We still don't know the mastermind behind 9-11, Government has provided no evidence of Osama's involvement

Wouldn't surprise me if the Bush administration did that for more gorvernmental power, patriot act etc..etc..

what war in afghanistan, where have you been at...the war's in Iraq...as far the current president is concern, afghanistan doesn't exist.

People have the right to blame this man for putting the U.S in 4 trillion extra dollars worth of debt.

Defending this man is popostrous, nothing good has happened since this man has taken office.

Teh OH NOES!!!!:cry:

http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&selected=SNE&symbol=SNE

Yeah, go ahead and scroll back the graph 3 years (when the PS3 came out).

BioShockOwnz

As I said this is not OT, sorry I snapped (I hadn't said anything until now, I had to sit on my hands not to!)lets keep in on topic and SW is not the place for politics.

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

xbox360isgr8t

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

So why did he go after the wrong person, Saddam didnt knock down the towers, Saddam had the oil that Bush wanted. All the U.S. money went to this war, but yet N.O is still F up. We can go on for day about this.

[QUOTE="jharv"]

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

I can see Sony announcng a price drop before next month. Market share is too important for Sony to lose.

ReverseCycology

Sony already announced there wouldn't be anymore price drop for this year. But knowing Sony's track record they can always pull an 180 and announce a price drop or a switcharoo clearance sale.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]BioShockOwnz

As I said this is not OT, sorry I snapped (I hadn't said anything until now, I had to sit on my hands not to!)lets keep in on topic and SW is not the place for politics.

Nope, it's not that simple. When the damage is already done, it's hard to reverse it. Especially when you face partisan BS every single day. Fact is, that the democrats put us here, and for years there were Rupublicans warning about it, yet the majority of Democrats stood up for their buddies at Fannie & Freddie, so nothing can get passed when partisan BS is at an all-time high.

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I have no doubt it will.

But it's not the only one that's going to get hit hard. HDTV sales will not meet expectations this holiday season IMO.

People get a bit caught up in the numbers of presents they get... I will be a decision of one high priced present or a bunch of smaller ones. I prefer large "family presents" myself :P

xbox360isgr8t

yeah its gonna be a really tough time, I hope this economy gets off the ground, now you are seeing this effect the global economy. Thank Mr Bush for this mess, the worst president of all time and our stupid country elected him....

ya blame bush cause its all his fault. how about the democratic congress that has been in for like 2 years and now congress has one of its lowest apporval ratings ever. they messed up more in about a quarter of the time. its not all bush's fault but morons dont realize this. and they also dont realize that Bush is actually a very intelligent person he just sucks at public speaking

as does bush and his putrid presidental rating.

you can blame bush if you want. but its not all his fault.

9/11 would have happened no matter what

the war in afghanistan would have happened no matter what

only thing you can blame him for is maybe iraq

the reason for a economic crisis and the Gov needing to bailout the banks is because of clinton and his policies that allowed for it to happen.

Clinton made it so people can buy houses. If you get aproved for $250,000, no one told you to go buy a $250,000 house, why not get a $180,000 house, its far from Bill's fault. Bush rather take care of another country rather then his own, N.O and the job market all points to Bush.