EDGE: 54% of Wii games are TRASH

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

I could say the same about almost any system :)

Espada12

Well let's go by GS.

According to them the 360 has 296 games above A.

239 games under A.

Total Games = 535

Percent = 44.6% of 360 games are trash.

That's alot. Which is why I can make the arguement almost 1/2 the game on the 360 are trash. I bet it's even more lopsided for the PS2. The most popular system will always attract the most rubbish.

I wouldn't call a 6.5 or 6.0 game trash, or even some 5.5's either (Disaster: Day of Springs to mind for me). But even so 6.0 is average so I wouldn't say average = trash.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"] You could but then you'd be wrong with that baseless claim.St_muscat

Well let's go by GS.

According to them the 360 has 296 games above A.

239 games under A.

Total Games = 535

Percent = 44.6% of 360 games are trash.

That's alot. Which is why I can make the arguement almost 1/2 the game on the 360 are trash. I bet it's even more lopsided for the PS2. The most popular system will always attract the most rubbish.

I wouldn't call a 6.5 or 6.0 game trash, or even some 5.5's either (Disaster: Day of Springs to mind for me). But even so 6.0 is average so I wouldn't say average = trash.

This is system wars. There are 3 ranges of A's. If a game is not in there, it fails according to SW.

i dont agree with edge at all, i would say about 95% of wii games are trash

Did you really just try to spin that? Does it even matter if a game is multiplatform or not, if it's still a A or better title... it's a good game. Period. Being exclusive doesn't make the game "magically" better. Over-scored because of "HD hype" :| ... :lol: Yeah, believe whatever you so please, mate.

Stevo_the_gamer

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

I could say the same about almost any system :)

Espada12

A conservative figure given how few games, and how few of the true Shovelware like Anubis has been reviewed by Edge

I dont like Edge not because they are harsh, but because they have NO standards and hardly justify their low scores. I mean Dementium got a 5/10

FirstDiscovery

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Did you really just try to spin that? Does it even matter if a game is multiplatform or not, if it's still a A or better title... it's a good game. Period. Being exclusive doesn't make the game "magically" better. Over-scored because of "HD hype" :| ... :lol: Yeah, believe whatever you so please, mate.

Bigboi500

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

its quite funny the points being made here about wii games being trash yet all systems have a bunch of trash games yet the wii has sold the most so if u look at sells wii is the best console out which is funny when the 360 came out before the wii lol w/e lol i own a pc we get trash games but not alot

IYou know lots of those mediocre games get over scored on the so-called HD consoles while good Wii games sometimes get underscored.Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. Bigboi500

It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure.The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

Bigboi500

its quite funny the points being made here about wii games being trash yet all systems have a bunch of trash games yet the wii has sold the most so if u look at sells wii is the best console out which is funny when the 360 came out before the wii lol w/e lol i own a pc we get trash games but not alot

wehertn

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]IYou know lots of those mediocre games get over scored on the so-called HD consoles while good Wii games sometimes get underscored.Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. angelkimne

It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure.The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

Bigboi500

Exactly what I was thinking, but if you bring in relative exclusitivity some people are going to complain. :)

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

I'm pretty sure the same goes for most every system.

Stevo_the_gamer

According to Metacritic... this is how it goes:

Xbox 360:

• 304 A or better games
• Total games: 603
• Percentage: 50% of games score A or better

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PS3:

• 190 A or better games
• Total games: 317
• Percentage: 60% of games score A or better

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Wii:

• 133 A or better games
• Total games: 389
• Percentage: 34% of games score A or better

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Yeah, you mean just like Halo Wars or Ratchet & Clank? All platforms suffer from the odd bad review.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure.The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

-RPGamer-

Exactly what I was thinking, but if you bring in relative exclusitivity some people are going to complain. :)

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]IYou know lots of those mediocre games get over scored on the so-called HD consoles while good Wii games sometimes get underscored.Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. angelkimne

It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure.The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

Bigboi500

It all just means that review scores are inaccurate and overall unreliable, even when averaged out.

Bigboi500

The review scores are used due to them being the same playing ground for all games. An average of reviews is the most objective way to view game quality. There is no better way for us to talk about library quality without throwing in too much of our own subjective spin.

The review scores are used due to them being the same playing ground for all games. An average of reviews is the most objective way to view game quality. There is no better way for us to talk about library quality without throwing in too much of our own subjective spin.

-RPGamer-

Well that means 35% are good, something most on SW won't even admit to. That's enough GOOD games to keep normal people happy.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

The review scores are used due to them being the same playing ground for all games. An average of reviews is the most objective way to view game quality. There is no better way for us to talk about library quality without throwing in too much of our own subjective spin.

Bigboi500

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

The review scores are used due to them being the same playing ground for all games. An average of reviews is the most objective way to view game quality. There is no better way for us to talk about library quality without throwing in too much of our own subjective spin.

-RPGamer-

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Any way one looks at it this gens reviews are full of fail on just about if not all sites and zines. I can name off tons of games that got scored wrong in a big way on all systems.

Bigboi500

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

misssexykazumi

[QUOTE="misssexykazumi"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]LOL that's ridiculous. If you want to blindly follow such poor quality "reviews" be my guest. But don't claim they are professional in anything other than writting sklls.

Bigboi500

That's not really that bad it's not as good has the 360 or the PS3. But that is still 132 games which are A and above in a little over 2 years. That more titles than I own with all three systems put together. Just wondering what is the PS2 or GC percentage?HarlockJC

Meh, the PS2 was able to get that amount in a year's time and that console was a pain to develop for. You would ask for that... make me do more work (Not like it's difficult). :P

Gamecube:

263 games have scored A or better

Total Number of games: 502

Percentage: 52%

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PS2

786 games have scored A or better

Total Number of games: 1596 (I'm assuming a lot of Japanese titles are not in this number -- seems a little small)

Percentage: 49%

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And just for kicks and giggles...

DS:

237 A or better games

Total Number of games: 617

Percentage: 38%

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PSP:

194 A or better games

Total Number of games: 422

Percentage: 46%

I could say the same about almost any system :)

Espada12

This won the thread a long time ago. Why are people still posting?

It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure. You know lots of those mediocre games get over scored on the so-called HD consoles while good Wii games sometimes get underscored.

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

Bigboi500

Can't say anything about it -- haven't played it nor will I play it. Halo Wars anyone? Empire: Total War anyone? Rachet and Clank anyone?

I agree, exclusives are important to distinguish the SYSTEMS. However, multiplatform games do exist and they play an important role in the gaming industry. You can't just rub them off and say they're not important. There's a plethora of multiplatform games that another system doesn't get -- but yet somehow they're still "unimportant"; saying such is just a knee-jerk response when you're grasping at straws.

And here's your exclusive list via Gamespot scores.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It does matter if a game is multi plat or not. If PS3/360 share those games then they are basically substitutable and have to share their success or failure. You know lots of those mediocre games get over scored on the so-called HD consoles while good Wii games sometimes get underscored.

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn anyone? You can't say with a straight face that the game got a fair review here. The only way to truly distinguish the consoles by their seperate value is to go by exclusives, so why don't you do the number crunching for exclusives only?

Stevo_the_gamer

Can't say anything about it -- haven't played it nor will I play it. Halo Wars anyone? Empire: Total War anyone? Rachet and Clank anyone?

I agree, exclusives are important to distinguish the SYSTEMS. However, multiplatform games do exist and they play an important role in the gaming industry. You can't just rub them off and say they're not important. There's a plethora of multiplatform games that another system doesn't get -- but yet somehow they're still "unimportant"; saying such is just a knee-jerk response when you're grasping at straws.

Say what you will but I like all systems, and the Wii gets unnecessary hate here that needs correcting. Reviews are just casual guidelines to quickly glance over for an idea of what a game is and nothing more than that.Bigboi500

Even Willy thinks you're part of the sheep :lol:; let's not hide what system you favor the most. I enjoyed my PS3, my Xbox 360, and some aspects about the Wii, and I love my PC. I enjoy and prefer my PC the most (by leaps and bounds really), and thus I'm a hermit. Sure, I've owned all systems... but that doesn't mean I can't favor one system over another.

The Wii gets unnecessary hate? Perhaps it just gets too much "baseless" hate from vague claims with no foundation -- that's why I'm here, to give reasons why the Wii is a "mediocre" system and back those such reasons up, which I normally always do and if I don't, I point them to my sig (Which I can't anymore considering it's far too outdated). That, and to keep Haziqonfire on his toes all the time defending the Wii. Haha.

Nevertheless, reviews are there for you -- the gamer -- to see how the game fairs within it's respective genre and platform. Some individuals place too much attention to the numerical value placed upon the review itself instead of looking at the content of the review.

95% of that 54% has been provided by Ubisoft's Imagine and Petz series of games.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Say what you will but I like all systems, and the Wii gets unnecessary hate here that needs correcting. Reviews are just casual guidelines to quickly glance over for an idea of what a game is and nothing more than that.Stevo_the_gamer

Even Willy thinks you're part of the sheep :lol:; let's not hide what system you favor the most. I enjoyed my PS3, my Xbox 360, and some aspects about the Wii, and I love my PC. I enjoy and prefer my PC the most (by leaps and bounds really), and thus I'm a hermit. Sure, I've owned all systems... but that doesn't mean I can't favor one system over another.

The Wii gets unnecessary hate? Perhaps it just gets too much "baseless" hate from vague claims with no foundation -- that's why I'm here, to give reasons why the Wii is a "mediocre" system and back those such reasons up, which I normally always do and if I don't, I point them to my sig (Which I can't anymore considering it's far too outdated). That, and to keep Haziqonfire on his toes all the time defending the Wii. Haha.

Nevertheless, reviews are there for you -- the gamer -- to see how the game fairs within it's respective genre and platform. Some individuals place too much attention to the numerical value placed upon the review itself instead of looking at the content of the review.

It's true I do favor the Wii over the 360. But to call me a sheep is nonsense. Let me brush you up on the definition of a sheep, cow, lem, etc. It means one who blindly follows their system of choice EVEN when they shouldn't AND never talks favorably about other systems. So the most accurate label you could give me in SW regards would be a shemming. Either way those names are childish, inaccurate, and full of spitefull nonsense. I'm a GAMER baby. ;)

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Any way one looks at it this gens reviews are full of fail on just about if not all sites and zines. I can name off tons of games that got scored wrong in a big way on all systems.

Bigboi500

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

I don't blindly follow review scores for my own personal purchases. They are professional reviews, it is their paid job (in most cases) to do that. So laugh all you want but what you just stated has no impact on the concept we were discussing.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It's true I do favor the Wii over the 360. But to call me a sheep is nonsense. Let me brush you up on the definition of a sheep, cow, lem, etc. It means one who blindly follows their system of choice EVEN when they shouldn't AND never talks favorably about other systems. So the most accurate label you could give me in SW regards would be a shemming. Either way those names are childish, inaccurate, and full of spitefull nonsense. I'm a GAMER baby. ;)

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Scored wrong according to who? See you're adding your own subjective spin. If we take the average of professinal reviewers it is far more objective (despite it being based ona mass of subjective content).

-RPGamer-

I don't blindly follow review scores for my own personal purchases. They are professional reviews, it is their paid job (in most cases) to do that. So laugh all you want but what you just stated has no impact on the concept we were discussing.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]LOL that's ridiculous. If you want to blindly follow such poor quality "reviews" be my guest. But don't claim they are professional in anything other than writting sklls.

Bigboi500

I don't blindly follow review scores for my own personal purchases. They are professional reviews, it is their paid job (in most cases) to do that. So laugh all you want but what you just stated has no impact on the concept we were discussing.

B/c it is their profession. :| Yes b/c GS hired them, damn do you know the definition of a professional (ie "following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain")? And what the hell does that have to do with anything, you go on such irrelevant tangeants to prove a point *shakes head*.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I don't blindly follow review scores for my own personal purchases. They are professional reviews, it is their paid job (in most cases) to do that. So laugh all you want but what you just stated has no impact on the concept we were discussing.

-RPGamer-

B/c it is their profession. :| Yes b/c GS hired them, damn do you know the definition of a professional (ie "following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain")? And what the hell does that have to do with anything, you go on such irrelevant tangeants to prove a point *shakes head*.

Geez man lighten up and go play games you like.

Bigboi500

I do, and again what does that have to do with this convo?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Geez man lighten up and go play games you like.

-RPGamer-

I do, and again what does that have to do with this convo?

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Geez man lighten up and go play games you like.

Bigboi500

I do, and again what does that have to do with this convo?

Wrong, I already said I don't really use reviews for my own personal means that much. However, here in SW reviews are the best way for us to pass any objective views on a library is to use reviews.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I do, and again what does that have to do with this convo?

-RPGamer-

Wrong, I already said I don't really use reviews for my own personal means that much. However, here in SW reviews are the best way for us to pass any objective views on a library is to use reviews.