Edge magazine: not looking forward to GT5 Prologue

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#1 tcarruth
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I'm actually a huge fan of the GT series. I say actually, because I'm not at all surprised at the comments that I read in Edge magazines' preview of GT5 Prologue.

The core complaints were: 1) felt too similar to prequels 2) environments feel sterile and lifeless

I was really hoping it would be different this time around. I'm so sick of playing GT: a game where it really pays to just pile into the rear quarters of the computer / human competitors on corners and gain massive advantages. Also, quite often the quickest line is straight over a massive chicane or even worst, to scrape around the edge of a walled bend (better damage modelling should have been requisite this time around).

Some of the fastest people I've ever played on this 'simulator' have just been good at cheating and don't even have to know the correct way to drive a corner. Many of the videos on gametrailers seem to support this. I feel like criticism 1 is a big deal and extremely offputting for me. If its similar to GT4 well hell, I'm already bored of it!!

In terms of criticism 2, I find this unforgivable. Apparently the courses are more realistic than the forza games (tighter london circuits for example) but the lighting is artificial and designed to show off the bodywork of the cars. You don't really feel like you are driving in a real city apparently.

In summary, I am worried that GT5 is a massive exercise in cosmetics - while the cars look amazing, who cares if you feel like you have already driven them ten times over? If the environments are not that interesting and there is no atmosphere then whats the point really? I think I am just sick of rehashes.

Anyone else thinking the same? Are you too, sick of sequels?

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#2 Blue-Rose
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Nope.
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#3 heretrix
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40 bucks for a demo is too much.
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#4 Bread_or_Decide
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40 bucks for a demo is too much.heretrix

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

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#5 HarryCrackage
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.Bread_or_Decide

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

A prequel to a racing game? Does that mean I get to race a model T at 20 mph?

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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If anything, I'd wait for the full GT5 game, but I doubt I'll personally every get it. I tired of GT games a long time ago. "Sim" racers aren't my style. I prefer arcade-type racers for the sheer thrill of them.
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#7 SapSacPrime
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I have always loved the GT series since the first release, but having only tried Forza 2 quite recently I have to say it is better in the gameplay department, and a lot of this is probably due to the fact the xbox 360 triggers work better for racers. Anyway I say this for the fact that if you try and cut corners or smash into other cars you will not be rewarded for it, FM is a much harsher racer which forces you to do things the right way, by comparison GT is far more arcade like.

Regardless I actually prefer PG and I always say I don't like sim racers as much, but the moment I try them I get addicted to the pokemon esque collect em up aspect lol, and I definitely would not turn down GT5 :) sod the prologue though...

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#8 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.Bread_or_Decide

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

GT HD was a demo to GT4 HD which was cancelled. Prologue is a demo to GT 5. It isn't a prequel. All of the cars and tracks in prologue are in the full version of GT 5.
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#9 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.Bread_or_Decide

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

So its a $40 beta?
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#10 shaggygrosser
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I've moved on to Forza 1 & 2 after GT3. The detailed interiors of GT5 are nice, but other improvements definitely need to be made to pull me back to GT.
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#11 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.HarryCrackage

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

A prequel to a racing game? Does that mean I get to race a model T at 20 mph?

Its been done. It was called Mafia, especially the PS2 version of it.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.PBSnipes

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

So its a $40 beta?

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.
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#13 EmperorSupreme
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I don't agree, the environments in GT look amazing. I'll probably be getting prologue, and will definetly be getting the full version. I'm not going to miss it.
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#14 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.musicalmac

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

So its a $40 beta?

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.

Better than the $60 beta for Halo 3! Now you don't have to wait, "cuz waiting is the hardest part".

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[QUOTE="HarryCrackage"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.SpruceCaboose

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

A prequel to a racing game? Does that mean I get to race a model T at 20 mph?

Its been done. It was called Mafia, especially the PS2 version of it.

Gotcha. Could you roll in a horse drawn wagon, Amish style, though?

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as a cow and retro gamer, ihave to say that sony needs to just get the game out. as in, THE game. not this prologue crap. forza has got polyphony all screwed up.:lol:
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#17 Riverwolf007
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After every other racing series went to online and GT did not I quit anticipating new ones coming out. If the full retail version of GT5 (no $40 demos for me thanks) features a dedicated server I will try it out but I'm not expecting much from a first gen online version.
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#18 heretrix
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There are some people out there that got the full version of Forza for free. While I'm not bashing the quality of GT 5, it looks really good, it ain't worth 100 bucks.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.SpruceCaboose

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

So its a $40 beta?

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.

Better than the $60 beta for Halo 3! Now you don't have to wait, "cuz waiting is the hardest part".

dont forget the £40 MGS2 demo on the ps2

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#20 the_h_bomb
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why are cows so excited about a demo?
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#21 PBSnipes
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why are cows so excited about a demo?the_h_bomb
Why were Lemmings so excited about the Halo 3 beta?
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#22 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.musicalmac

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

So its a $40 beta?

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.

you mean the amazing game that was crackdown, that MS ruined by inculding a Halo 3 beta.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"] So its a $40 beta?
toxicmog

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.

you mean the amazing game that was crackdown, that MS ruined by inculding a Halo 3 beta.

Crackdown was awesome. Freakin' awesome. It was one of those rare games I played until I had it beaten, without playing games inbetween. In my world, Crackdown > GTA3.
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]why are cows so excited about a demo?PBSnipes
Why were Lemmings so excited about the Halo 3 beta?

because it was a chance to tes the multiplayer version of one of the best selling games in the world. FOR FREE

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]40 bucks for a demo is too much.Bread_or_Decide

GT HD was a demo.

This is more like a prequel to the full game.

Can you turn your GT5: P in for a discount on the full game?
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#26 Always-Honest
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40 bucks for a demo is too much.heretrix

agreed.. prequel or no prequel.. it's an expensive demo. and i hope they will still refine the game after that prequel.

I'm not even sure i want the final game in this state

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In my world, Crackdown > GTA3.musicalmac
Man, I hope Rockstar took some notes from Crackdown.
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#28 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"] In my world, Crackdown > GTA3.Jandurin
Man, I hope Rockstar took some notes from Crackdown.

Superpowers FTW.
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#29 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"] So its a $40 beta?
musicalmac

*waits for someone to make a poor reference to the 60$ Halo 3 beta I wouldn't pay 40 dollars for GT.

you mean the amazing game that was crackdown, that MS ruined by inculding a Halo 3 beta.

Crackdown was awesome. Freakin' awesome. It was one of those rare games I played until I had it beaten, without playing games inbetween. In my world, Crackdown > GTA3.

yep, it's truly underestimated. best downloadable content ever and best achievements ever too.

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#30 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] In my world, Crackdown > GTA3.musicalmac
Man, I hope Rockstar took some notes from Crackdown.

Superpowers FTW.

I wouldn't say better than GT series but yeah, I was pretty much sold on the game as soon as I threw a car at my friend in co-op as he was jumping from roof to roof and knocked him out of the air. Crackdown was full of win once I eventually gave it a chance.
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#31 Vasichko
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I loved Crackdown. Beat the game, go play online and play through it some more helping other people out.
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#32 mattacular
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I don't agree, the environments in GT look amazing. I'll probably be getting prologue, and will definetly be getting the full version. I'm not going to miss it.EmperorSupreme
Well there's a surprise it could be poo on a stick and you would still love it as long as it was on ps3
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#33 heretrix
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Yay! It's awesome to see some Crackdown love. It was truly unappreciated. It's one of the best games of 2007. Pure freaking fun.

Yes. Superpowers FTW.

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#34 Madbhal402
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Edge Magazine lost all there credibility when they gave Mass Effect a 7 out of 10.

So I will Ignore anything they say