EGM : the killzone2 AI is dumbest

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#51 wiiwillwiiwill
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

I'll say the same thing i said in the PS3 forum. The journalist (if you can call him that) that wrote that comparisonhas the dumbest AI... It's really smart to compare a game that has already gone gold and a game that is still in alpha stage.:roll: Not only that, but during the demo presentations of KZ2 one developer was careful enough to point out that the demo was being played in God-mode. Go watch the videos.

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God mode does not, and I repeat, does not make the A.I stupid.

It's not a difficulty setting.

I was thinking the same thing so the player can't die...what does that have to do with AI? *shrugs*

agreed, me too.

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#52 Gen007
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something tells me they are focusing on the graphics then the gameplay that could end up hurting it
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#53 dd2005nian
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look at the killzone1 stupid AI , it's no ssurprise to me:D
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#54 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Medjai"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

I'll say the same thing i said in the PS3 forum. The journalist (if you can call him that) that wrote that comparisonhas the dumbest AI... It's really smart to compare a game that has already gone gold and a game that is still in alpha stage.:roll: Not only that, but during the demo presentations of KZ2 one developer was careful enough to point out that the demo was being played in God-mode. Go watch the videos.

wiiwillwiiwill

God mode does not, and I repeat, does not make the A.I stupid.

It's not a difficulty setting.

I was thinking the same thing so the player can't die...what does that have to do with AI? *shrugs*

agreed, me too.

I *think* what he's trying to get at is that since he was in God mode it was hard to tell when the player was getting shot and would've been losing health. Still doesn't explain why the enemies are just sitting there like idiots awaiting their own deaths in every Killzone 2 video, especially the most recent developer walkthrough ones. Wouldn't surprise me at all if by the time this game comes out, the first F.E.A.R.'s enemy A.I. still surpasses it.

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#55 DouglasBuffone
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hopefully it will be fixed
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#56 dd2005nian
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I think the priority to fix in killzone2 , is the poor texture:D

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#57 mtradr43
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I think the priority to fix in killzone2 , is the poor texture:D

dd2005nian

or just cancel the game altogether, save sony and cows some money.

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#58 leviathan91
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I think the priority to fix in killzone2 , is the poor texture:D

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That's just dumb. :| GG should focus on the A.I., then move onto textures. Besides, it's still in development and it's not like it's going to be released in a week or so.

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#59 jrpgliker
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so the statement made by UBI which claim PS3 can't handle SC5 AI is realted to this info.
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#60 leviathan91
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so the statement made by UBI which claim PS3 can't handle SC5 AI is realted to this info.jrpgliker

Link? I don't remember Ubisoft saying that before.

Besides, didn't anyone see the EGM issue? It was for E307. :| Right now, it's getting a great hands-on from Gameinformer.http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-64600.aspx

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#61 Sonic_on_crack
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who didnt know that ? have you watched the videos
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#62 jrpgliker
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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]so the statement made by UBI which claim PS3 can't handle SC5 AI is realted to this info.leviathan91

Link? I don't remember Ubisoft saying that before.

Besides, didn't anyone see the EGM issue? It was for E307. :| Right now, it's getting a great hands-on from Gameinformer.http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-64600.aspx

here you go

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=5527

During an interview with GamePlayer, an Ubisoft developer flat-out said the PS3 can't handle artificial intelligence as well as the 360:

"It's NEVER gonna come out on the PS3 or the Wii," he said. "It's a logical decision. Nintendo's console simply doesn't have the graphical horsepower, and...the PS3 can't handle AI nearly as well as the 360."

Article: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/1686.html

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#63 RawDeal_basic
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They had better fix this "little" problem. BadAI was the reason the first Killzone sucked.

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#64 sainraja
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[QUOTE="mazdero"]If you think what you saw in those videos was indicative of the AI in the final game, you are dead wrong. If you heard what the devs were saying, they were speaking on the AI as if they have yet to implement it. Those soldiers were cannon fodder to show off the lighting,Graphics, and special effects in the game. All we have seen so far is Pre-Alpha demos of their rendering engine and lighting system. Textures have still not been implemented, nor has their streaming system for no load times. The game is at least 6 months off. I would say if they show it off in January, and the AI still looks the same, then you can safely assume the AI is a joke. Until it gets closer to release, it is quite silly to point out flaws in this PRE-ALPHA build.FrozenLiquid

It seems everyone's been showing pre alpha builds ever since Bungie has used the excuse, huh.

It's interesting how developers work. Bungie seemed to implement the graphics dead last, concentrating on AI and expanded gameplay more than anything.

Guerilla, on the other hand, seem to be graphics first, everything second.

You would use that as a reason to put them down then......oh the graphics don't look like the E3 trailer! Oh!!!!

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#65 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Oh god so what if a soldier jumps over a wall and comes at you screaming bloody murder, whilst raining death down on your position. Looks exciting.CrazyCarter

yeah and then you shoot him in the face with a shotgun. he might as well be a zombie with that intelligence. :lol:

If I recall you enemies in Gears of War just jumped right over the wall you were on.... Basically saying "CHAINSAW ME WHILE i'M IN MY JUMP ANIMATION kOOL!"
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#66 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]so the statement made by UBI which claim PS3 can't handle SC5 AI is realted to this info.jrpgliker

Link? I don't remember Ubisoft saying that before.

Besides, didn't anyone see the EGM issue? It was for E307. :| Right now, it's getting a great hands-on from Gameinformer.http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-64600.aspx

here you go

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=5527

During an interview with GamePlayer, an Ubisoft developer flat-out said the PS3 can't handle artificial intelligence as well as the 360:

"It's NEVER gonna come out on the PS3 or the Wii," he said. "It's a logical decision. Nintendo's console simply doesn't have the graphical horsepower, and...the PS3 can't handle AI nearly as well as the 360."

Article: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/1686.html

That's interesting. R:FoM's and Motorstorm's A.I. was aggresive, yet these guys say A.I. can't be handled as well as the 360? I'll believe it when I see it. ;)