Either sales matter or they dont.Make your mind up xbox 360 owners

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#1 bambidurojay
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Decide whether sales matter or not.I am tired of them making sales important when comparing the 360 to PS3 .But saying sales are not important when talking about the Wii.,

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#2 InfinityMugen
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Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

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#3 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I see far more cows saying the Wii isn't comparable to thePS3 and that the PS3 released a year later and is outselling the 360 worldwide and so its really in first place! But that they don't care about NPD sales.

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#4 Floppy_Jim
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Why only 360 owners?
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#5 killerfist
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But it's way too hard to choose:cry:
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#6 MachoBuzzzy
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"Xbox 360 owners"Why only them?
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#7 Coolio10
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Well everyone spins the sales argument. Wii owners say we win because we got the most sales, and cows and lems say thats the only thing your winning in. Lems say were in 2nd place and cows just say it was year headstart and price. Cows say you got no exclusives to lems hahaha!!!!

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#8 delta3074
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Decide whether sales matter or not.I am tired of them making sales important when comparing the 360 to PS3 .But saying sales are not important when talking about the Wii.,

bambidurojay
we all know the wii is winning in sales to the point that it's not worth debating, there's no battle there therfore it is uninteresting, the ps3 vs 360 however appears to be a battle to the death, basically, as the first place is already decided, everyone is more interested in second place.this is system WARS and we come here to do battle!
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#9 delta3074
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Well everyone spins the sales argument. Wii owners say we win because we got the most sales, and cows and lems say thats the only thing your winning in. Lems say were in 2nd place and cows just say it was year headstart and price. Cows say you got no exclusives to lems hahaha!!!!

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wow, system wars in less than 60 seconds
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#10 Blaiyze1
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Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

InfinityMugen

The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

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#11 delta3074
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

Blaiyze1

The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

yes,like the hardcore cows keep saying sales figures don't matter,swings and roundabouts mate, sales never matter when you are in last place, welcome to wonderland
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#12 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

Blaiyze1

The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

O I see. I think console fans on all sides care about sales not just M$ fans. Most of the time here in SW, the Wii gets ignored and some ps3/360 fans just fight over second place. I dont know if PS3 fans are "boasting" about PS3 beating the Wii in Japan, but they have noticed and commented on the matter in the NPD thread which indicates that the numbers are just as important to them as well.

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#13 heretrix
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Sales matter to the people who have the most, and don't to the people who have the least. (at least in SW anyway) There's no use complaining about it.

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#14 duvalbosnian
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I see far more cows saying the Wii isn't comparable to thePS3 and that the PS3 released a year later and is outselling the 360 worldwide and so its really in first place! But that they don't care about NPD sales.

blue_hazy_basic
are you high look at the sales the 360 hasin games http://www.vgchartz.com/atotals.php and we have sold more units overall and seriosly you really really think that the ps3 is in first place kill your self
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#15 PAL360
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

Blaiyze1

The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

How do you know what lemming will say if this or that happens in the future. If you are looking for an example of hipocrisy here it goes:

Cows dont care about sales on the other hand they love the fact that PS3 is outselling the Wii in Japan

Cows love graphics but when talking about multiplats the diferences dont matter

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#16 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="Blaiyze1"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

PAL360

The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

How do you know what lemming will say if this or that happens in the future. If you are looking for an example of hipocrisy here it goes:

Cows dont care about sales on the other hand they love the fact that PS3 is outselling the Wii in Japan

Cows love graphics but when talking about multiplats the diferences dont matter

True. Every side care about sales.

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#17 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Blaiyze1"] The OP is trying to say that 360 boast about sales but then once someone mentions Wii sales they quickly scatter. But its not only that, i dont come onto these forums often but the forums i go onto on "other websites" threads with monthly sales figures. Generally speaking PS3 owners dont care for sales but once the PS3 overtakes the 360 in sales 360 owners also say that figures dont matter.

InfinityMugen

How do you know what lemming will say if this or that happens in the future. If you are looking for an example of hipocrisy here it goes:

Cows dont care about sales on the other hand they love the fact that PS3 is outselling the Wii in Japan

Cows love graphics but when talking about multiplats the diferences dont matter

True. Every side care about sales.

Of couse. Sales mean more games and dev support

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#18 siggy3
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Well, I can say that when I'm playing my 360, I'm not sitting there thinking "boy, the fact that around 29 million other people also have a 360 really improves the gaming experience for me". But it's nice to know that it's selling well because it means that developers will be more willing to release their games on the system.

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#19 killerfist
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 Just had to do it.
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#20 Caseytappy
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Wow , a topic from a Cow attacking lemmings because they ignore the Wii .

How ironic :lol:

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[QUOTE="killerfist"] Just had to do it.

HAH! Comments TC? :lol:
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#22 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="duvalbosnian"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

I see far more cows saying the Wii isn't comparable to thePS3 and that the PS3 released a year later and is outselling the 360 worldwide and so its really in first place! But that they don't care about NPD sales.

are you high look at the sales the 360 hasin games http://www.vgchartz.com/atotals.php and we have sold more units overall and seriosly you really really think that the ps3 is in first place kill your self

Umm you didn't understand at all what I said did you? I woould suggest that bodily harm over console sales is a very silly idea though!
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#23 PAL360
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 Just had to do it. killerfist

:lol: perfect

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#24 Fizzman
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considering the fact the best selling wii game isnt even a game i just dont include the wii as an actual competitor against sony/ms.

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#25 waynehead895
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They will always matter. I just don't care about it as much as others will. I didn't mind that the Xbox/DC was in last place. Still my favorite consoles for last gen. In the DC case though I should care more about the sales since it did have a short life because of it.
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] Just had to do it.

:lol: EPIC.
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#27 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Shouldn't we also be asking this of Cows, who keep proclaiming how PS3 WILL triumph in the console wars and that 360 is "destined" to fail?

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#28 musicalmac  Moderator
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I didn't think cows nor lems cared about sales anymore. *coughWIIcough*
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#29 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I didn't think cows nor lems cared about sales anymore. *coughWIIcough*musicalmac
*sigh* the Wii doesn't count Mac because its going for an entirely different market than the PS3/360 - the "whole lotta more people" market :D
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#30 musicalmac  Moderator
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*sigh* the Wii doesn't count Mac because its going for an entirely different market than the PS3/360 - the "whole lotta more people" market :Dblue_hazy_basic
:lol: Yeah, you've got me there. Why Sony and MS didn't go for that market still baffles me :P
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I didn't think cows nor lems cared about sales anymore. *coughWIIcough*blue_hazy_basic
*sigh* the Wii doesn't count Mac because its going for an entirely different market than the PS3/360 - the "whole lotta more people" market :D

:lol: That made me LOL. It's true though.
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#32 CaptainHarley
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Wow , a topic from a Cow attacking lemmings because they ignore the Wii .

How ironic :lol:

Caseytappy

i cant speak for everyone, but i can say i dont ignore the wii. i just dont talk about it because its a bad console and i dont care about it. its not a matter of ignoring, its a matter of it being of such low quality that its generally just not worth discussing in any context short of sales--and to any rational person, there is no arguement there, it is the undisputed king of the hill. so really, other than the occasional mediocre game that comes out for it, there is nothing worth talking about related to the wii, ever.

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They matter to a point, and they don't matter to a point. Either stance is defensible.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]*sigh* the Wii doesn't count Mac because its going for an entirely different market than the PS3/360 - the "whole lotta more people" market :Dmusicalmac
:lol: Yeah, you've got me there. Why Sony and MS didn't go for that market still baffles me :P

Who says they aren't? They just do it in an arse-backwards and slack-arsed manner. Games like Viva Pinata are apparently intended to appeal to this market while actually being very complex and ultimately not accessible at all to a casual audience despite its cuddly appearance... Even games like LBP will leave gamers that aren't "in the know" to some degree fumbling with amateur content that they aren't always getting what they want from (and I know I'll get argument on this, but I've watched my semi-casual nephews trying to pick out PC mods from sites that have ranking systems on them - they end up getting all sorts of stuff that is either good but not their type of thing, or bad mods they picked for bad reasons). They're trying - just not making it their first priority, and doing a meh job at it. They Wii is doing the reverse :p
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Who says they aren't? They just do it in an arse-backwards and slack-arsed manner. Games like Viva Pinata are apparently intended to appeal to this market while actually being very complex and ultimately not accessible at all to a casual audience despite its cuddly appearance... Even games like LBP will leave gamers that aren't "in the know" to some degree fumbling with amateur content that they aren't always getting what they want from (and I know I'll get argument on this, but I've watched my semi-casual nephews trying to pick out PC mods from sites that have ranking systems on them - they end up getting all sorts of stuff that is either good but not their type of thing, or bad mods they picked for bad reasons). They're trying - just not making it their first priority, and doing a meh job at it. They Wii is doing the reverse :pShafftehr
Well of course they are. We were just being silly ;)
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] Just had to do it. waynehead895
:lol: EPIC.

Timing is everything! Another win for the "fist"
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#37 PoppaGamer
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Its the standard SW problem: Generalizations We like to group all "cows", or all "lemmings", or all "sheep" together, whether they really share the same views or not. We also like to ignore the topic at hand. If there's a topic on sales, some moron chimes about quality. If its a thread about quality, some moron chimes in about sales. But let's all be real here. Sales does NOT = quality. Yes, sales might get you quality later but there's no direct connection. How good a game is, is more determined by the devs and the game itself, not what a previous title did in sales. That is unless its a complete sales loser and the company loses their arse.
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] Just had to do it.

Now thats funny.
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Just had to do it. blue_hazy_basic
:lol: EPIC.

Timing is everything! Another win for the "fist"

epic win i agree
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#41 mithrixx
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Decide whether sales matter or not.I am tired of them making sales important when comparing the 360 to PS3 .But saying sales are not important when talking about the Wii.,

bambidurojay
Of course sales matter. Not console sales, games sales. Because games are what make the money for the console manufacturer, not the console itself.
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They matter to a point, and they don't matter to a point. Either stance is defensible. SpruceCaboose
It depends on the subject at hand, no?
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Why only 360 owners?Floppy_Jim
yes where are the cows in this equation? or even to a lesser extent the sheep?
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#44 deangallop
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I've always said that sales don't matter, they still do not. But don't act like lemmings are the only faction that do this, cows did it when they had a pretty medicore library but was outselling the 360.

Oh and don't get me started on sheep.

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It has always ben my impression that PS3 fans are always changing their minds. Sales, the relevance of Wii, PC etc.
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[QUOTE="bambidurojay"]

Decide whether sales matter or not.I am tired of them making sales important when comparing the 360 to PS3 .But saying sales are not important when talking about the Wii.,

delta3074

we all know the wii is winning in sales to the point that it's not worth debating, there's no battle there therfore it is uninteresting, the ps3 vs 360 however appears to be a battle to the death, basically, as the first place is already decided, everyone is more interested in second place.this is system WARS and we come here to do battle!

he's delta3074 and that..was a minute

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#47 xsubtownerx
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Sales don't matter, unless the situation makes it matter. ;)
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#48 GinoNYC
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Sales matter. Games matter too. The higher the sales for a platform, the more dev support the console gets etc etc...

InfinityMugen

Yeah, I mean, look at all that amazing shovelware/mini-game/casual support the Wii is getting! It sucks for us 360/PS3 owners that we only get the blockbuster third-party games while you guys get all the cool kiddy stuff. :(

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#49 iam2green
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sales doesn't matter to me at least. i just play the games that are hyped.
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#50 Silverbond
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Sales matter according to SW.