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#51 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

Oh well, I didn't really want it anyway.

clembo1990

lol I hope for your sake you are joking.

Nope

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#52 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="StratSec"]

Ok where are you guys getting this from? Unless I am glitched this page: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/empiretotalwar/index.html?tag=topten;all;1

Says N/A under score.

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keep refreshing

Ouch... ok now I see.

Well still a great score in its self but a flop is a flop.

True, but some of the best games this gen get no appreciation from GS :D I think a lot of other credible sites see this as a potential PC GOTY contender I really don't understand their position on the game :? If they waitied so long for a review then why didn't they wait for the patch instead of saying "rough around the edges" (minor graphical quibs). Alas, this is the 10th review of a major game in a row in which I've disagreed with the score. GS has sucked since Jeff left, we all know this deep down but come back anyway for teh forums...
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#53 -Snooze-
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Checking through Kevins past reviewed games. He tends to differ from the norm. Assassins Creed ... Wow. Soon as i upgrade this box i call a computer, im picking this up.
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#54 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

Oh well, I didn't really want it anyway.

BubbyJello

lol I hope for your sake you are joking.

Nope

So it got an 8.5 on one of the ****est game reviewing websites around, a 9.3 on metacritic, and you base your decision on GS? Okay, don't buy the game, it's got a 10 minute install time you might loose interest :roll:
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#55 Wasdie  Moderator
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They can think what they want. The review was again skewed towards it being a great game, but becuase of some bugs we have to give it only a 8.5, even after a lot of praise.

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#56 Jack_Bauer07
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Checking through Kevins past reviewed games. He tends to differ from the norm. Assassins Creed ... Wow. Soon as i upgrade this box i call a computer, im picking this up.-Snooze-

The "norm" according to system wars or Metacritic? Metacritic actually has several 9.0+ for Assassin's Creed and quite a few of us agree with that score.:|

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#57 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"] lol I hope for your sake you are joking.clembo1990

Nope

So it got an 8.5 on one of the ****est game reviewing websites around, a 9.3 on metacritic, and you base your decision on GS? Okay, don't buy the game, it's got a 10 minute install time you might loose interest :roll:

I never said me not wanting it had anything to do with the Gamespot review.

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#58 carlisledavid79
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Didnt expect it to flop here. But oh well.
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#59 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]Checking through Kevins past reviewed games. He tends to differ from the norm. Assassins Creed ... Wow. Soon as i upgrade this box i call a computer, im picking this up.Jack_Bauer07

The "norm" according to system wars or Metacritic? Metacritic actually has several 9.0+ for Assassin's Creed and quite a few of us agree with that score.:|

More the review not pointing out how tediously repetitive it is. A few, isn't the norm, neither is quiet a few. And as it sits at 82 and 79 on metacritic, and gameranking, i'd say most reviews weren't 9. Therefore the norm wasn't 9.
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#60 FragTycoon
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DANGER! DANGER! flop gifs imminent!

and the best for last!

Please... this is just in good fun. By all means by the game or enjoy the game :D

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#61 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

Nope

BubbyJello

So it got an 8.5 on one of the ****est game reviewing websites around, a 9.3 on metacritic, and you base your decision on GS? Okay, don't buy the game, it's got a 10 minute install time you might loose interest :roll:

I never said me not wanting it had anything to do with the Gamespot review.

That is exactly what you said. :?
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#62 MBP_King
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I'm disappointed in the AI issues, I was hoping for better. I don't think I am getting it anyways, this just cemeneted that decision.

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#63 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]Checking through Kevins past reviewed games. He tends to differ from the norm. Assassins Creed ... Wow. Soon as i upgrade this box i call a computer, im picking this up.-Snooze-

The "norm" according to system wars or Metacritic? Metacritic actually has several 9.0+ for Assassin's Creed and quite a few of us agree with that score.:|

More the review not pointing out how tediously repetitive it is. A few, isn't the norm, neither is quiet a few. And as it sits at 82 and 79 on metacritic, and gameranking, i'd say most reviews weren't 9. Therefore the norm wasn't 9.

Ah, so if you don't agree with every other review out there then you're no longer credible. Got it.

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#64 Wasdie  Moderator
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I'm disappointed in the AI issues, I was hoping for better. I don't think I am getting it anyways, this just cemeneted that decision.

MBP_King
Actually I agree. The AI is a mess sometimes.
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#65 Brendissimo35
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First of all, an 8.5 is by not means a "flop". Secondly, If gamespot wants to be harsher on games, they should do so uniformly. I understand that console titles get a handicap when being reviewed because of the lack of good competition but even on the PC there are still discrepancies in the gamespot scoring.

Just take a look at gamespot's highest rated PC games ever list (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=5&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all) and you'll see what I mean. Irregular and sometimes very irrational is the name of the game.

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#66 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]

The "norm" according to system wars or Metacritic? Metacritic actually has several 9.0+ for Assassin's Creed and quite a few of us agree with that score.:|

Jack_Bauer07

More the review not pointing out how tediously repetitive it is. A few, isn't the norm, neither is quiet a few. And as it sits at 82 and 79 on metacritic, and gameranking, i'd say most reviews weren't 9. Therefore the norm wasn't 9.

Ah, so if you don't agree with every other review out there then you're no longer credible. Got it.

Never did i mention him not being credible. You should improve your reading comprehension. I simply said he normally goes againts the norm, and this sin't just about AC, alot of the games he reviews. Does this make him less credible? No, he has the same credibilitie as everyone else. I for one will just not trust his reviews, as i'm obviously a different type of gamer.
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#67 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"]

So it got an 8.5 on one of the ****est game reviewing websites around, a 9.3 on metacritic, and you base your decision on GS? Okay, don't buy the game, it's got a 10 minute install time you might loose interest :roll:clembo1990

I never said me not wanting it had anything to do with the Gamespot review.

That is exactly what you said. :?

Whatever you say.
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#68 AAllxxjjnn
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I'm not really surprised. I don't take any GS reviews seriously anymore. They're a joke tbh.
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#69 -Snooze-
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First of all, an 8.5 is by not means a "flop". Secondly, If gamespot wants to be harsher on games, they should do so uniformly. I understand that console titles get a handicap when being reviewed because of the lack of good competition but even on the PC there are still discrepancies in the gamespot scoring.

Just take a look at gamespot's highest rated PC games ever list (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=5&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all) and you'll see what I mean. Irregular and sometimes very irrational is the name of the game.

Brendissimo35
I don't understand how Fallout 3 can get a 9, despite being only marginally better then it's Console counterparts. If PC has higehr standards, it should have scored lower.
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#70 lancedgt
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wow this is surprising, i was really expecting this to be AAA, however i trust Kevin V and he did mention some valid points, however i trust my judgement the most so ill have to play it :p
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#71 Stealthmaniac05
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Not too surprised. Gamespot typically doesn't give PC games much credit. 90% of the time they break from the norm to be "cool". It sorta annoying to be honest. Halo Wars for example. I still can't believe how inflated their MGS4 score is. Ah well, i stopped trusting GS reviews a long time ago.

What's ironic is that i have had zero crashes with Empire Total War. Zero. No other issues either. This review fails. It's nice to see someone doing something purely for "Wow..." factor.

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#72 Brendissimo35
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My point exactly. I would have given fallout 3 on the PC an 8.5 or an 8.0. Very irregular and unusual.

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#73 agentfred
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] I don't understand how Fallout 3 can get a 9, despite being only marginally better then it's Console counterparts. If PC has higehr standards, it should have scored lower.

I don't understand how this is topical, but to answer your question A) it is much better than either console version (controls, graphics, price, mods, etc.), and B) it scored the same as the 360 version, despite the aforementioned superiority. (I think this post comes off as a bit hostile, disregard that)
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#74 scoobiesnackarf
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Ehh it's Gamespot. They like to be rebellious. It's not like the avg on metacritic right now is 94 or anything =/ I bet if this was a console game it would have gotten 9.0 or 9.5. Gamespot, the place where PC games go to die.
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#75 Jack_Bauer07
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Never did i mention him not being credible. You should improve your reading comprehension. I simply said he normally goes againts the norm, and this sin't just about AC, alot of the games he reviews. Does this make him less credible? No, he has the same credibilitie as everyone else. I for one will just not trust his reviews, as i'm obviously a different type of gamer.-Snooze-

So .5 is now a huge leap from the "norm"? Honestly, this is nothing to complain about. Different people have different opinions.

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#76 scoobiesnackarf
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I'm not really surprised. I don't take any GS reviews seriously anymore. They're a joke tbh.AAllxxjjnn
This. They have lost their credibility with many quite some time ago. It's now just the place for SYSTEM WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#77 AlexSays
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So out of more than 20 reviewers, Gamespot has given this game the lowest score? I hate how Gamespot has these "generous" stretches (MSG4, GTA4) and then goes back to being extremely critical (Halo Wars, This) Oh well, I'm still buying the game sometime. I just feel sorry for Wii owners. MadWorld is next up for review.. :?
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#78 organic_machine
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That is most certainly a flop. Didn't expect it. I'd have to play the game before I make my judgements...

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#79 purple_MAN1832
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Hmm was expecting more...oh well I think it's a great game.

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#81 Cherokee_Jack
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I see Gamespot is in one of their moods.

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#82 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]So out of more than 20 reviewers, Gamespot has given this game the lowest score?Stealthmaniac05
Agreed. It's very sad. They're like the "women" of the review sites

I see Gamespot is in one of their moods.

Cherokee_Jack

I approve of these posts in succession. :P

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#83 millerlight89
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Well, to be fair the games does have its bugs, but honestly, no lower than a 9.0. Go figure though it's gamespot. To be honest the only thing keeping this site on its feet is the bloggers and the forums. They just seem to really not know what they are talking about anymore. Halo Wars should have been at least 8.0, Yes I know I dogged it but that was just to well troll lol, but that is over. Anyways Good score, but surprising.
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#84 iam2green
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[QUOTE="StratSec"]

"Don't have a link on me?" :lol:

Heydanbud92

*checks pockets* well I don't either....

that just made me laugh.

i don't think they like RTS that much. halo wars 6.5, empire total war 8.5 when what it was suppose to be a 9.5 from the fans? the demo was good i 'm not a big fan of RTS but i did download the demo. the graphics are good.
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#85 HoldThePhone
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The only reason GS exists is because of its forums, so they have to give us something to go crazy about.
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#86 deactivated-59d151f079814
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OMgz guys .5 difference in a review.. What the hell was gamespot thinking, they should have just taken IGN's opinion and reworded it instead of reviewing it themselves..
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#87 jg4xchamp
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so is von ord going to post in this thread.....he usually does.
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#88 HoldThePhone
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so is von ord going to post in this thread.....he usually does.jg4xchamp
is that the guy who reviewed Too Human and then came to SW to defend himself? lol gamespot is such a trash website

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I FIRMLY believe this game deserves the following emblems: Great Sound Effects, Outstanding Visual Design, Technically Proficient Graphics. SMR-Venom
Yeah, it definitely deserves Outstanding visual design and technically proficient graphics. It looks gorgeous.

I don't see how the "Oh Snap" emblem isn't in there as well... the other night my general was hit by a cannon and I immediately shouted out: "No ****ing way!!!!!!"
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#90 rcignoni
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Not what I would have chosen for it, but whatever.

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#91 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Never did i mention him not being credible. You should improve your reading comprehension. I simply said he normally goes againts the norm, and this sin't just about AC, alot of the games he reviews. Does this make him less credible? No, he has the same credibilitie as everyone else. I for one will just not trust his reviews, as i'm obviously a different type of gamer.Jack_Bauer07

So .5 is now a huge leap from the "norm"? Honestly, this is nothing to complain about. Different people have different opinions.

Who's complaining? I simple made an observation that his reviews tend to differ from the norm.
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#92 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Never did i mention him not being credible. You should improve your reading comprehension. I simply said he normally goes againts the norm, and this sin't just about AC, alot of the games he reviews. Does this make him less credible? No, he has the same credibilitie as everyone else. I for one will just not trust his reviews, as i'm obviously a different type of gamer.

So .5 is now a huge leap from the "norm"? Honestly, this is nothing to complain about. Different people have different opinions.

Who's complaining? I simple made an observation that his reviews tend to differ from the norm.

You mean from the conformity.. I bet the majority of the people here who are crying didn't even bother reading the review.. They just saw the score and went into outrage.
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#93 usule
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It's an awesome game, i'm loving it... runs well on a GTX 285 :)

Gamespot doesn't know how to score rts games anymore ( I know ETW isn't only an RTS)... Dawn of war 2 inovates and try to shake the genre and it gets an 8.5 as well... Just look at the average of all websites :), more credible than these disguising video reviewers from GS....

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#94 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Ouch flop but not a halo wars like flop.
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#95 millerlight89
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Ouch flop but not a halo wars like flop.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
How is an 8.5 a flop?
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#96 xsubtownerx
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It flopped. I'm still torn on whether to buy it or notCouth_
As someone who could never run this game properly, I'd say get it! From what I've seen the game looks like loads of funtastic fun.
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#97 ragek1ll589
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Ouch flop but not a halo wars like flop.millerlight89
How is an 8.5 a flop?

I think the unofficial hype was AAA.

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#98 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Ouch flop but not a halo wars like flop.ragek1ll589

How is an 8.5 a flop?

I think the unofficial hype was AAA.

The hype was definitely 9.0-9.5.
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#99 Tiefster
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Wow, what kind of crap is this? I was surprised when I saw the score. It doesn't really make sense why it is an 8.5 either...

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#100 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Gamerankings is showing this at a 92.5% and Metacritic at a 93; with Gamespot giving the lowest score on both sites.