Enough of the "Nintendo is ruining gaming" spill

They aren't ruining gaming they're expanding the audience, just like the PS1 did years before. Most gamers now wont be gaming if not for the PS1 bringing in a lot of casuals some of whom later became serious gamers. Before that gaming was supposedly "uncool" and only for nerds.

And a similar thing is happening now, wii is broadening the audience again, bringing more casual. But some here seems to think they are royalty, and gaming is a prestigious club that only a chosen few should enter. Well TOO BAD, like it or not Wii and its bandwagon are here, "get N or get out".

People always think that Nintendo is changing their audience, but in reality, they really are broadening their audience. Look!

Wii games published by Nintendo.

Hardcore games announced

1. Twilight Princess
2. Fire Emblem
3. Super Paper Mario
4. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
5. Super Mario Galaxy
6. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
7. Excite Truck
8. Battalion Wars 2
9. Disaster: Day of Crisis
10. Mario Kart Wii
11. Generic Kirby game
12. Project H.A.M.M.E.R. (maybe)
13. Mario Strikers Charged

Casual games announced

1. Wii Sports
2. Wii Play
3. WarioWare: Smooth Moves
4. Mario Party 8
5. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
6. Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast
7. Endless Ocean
8. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
9. Wii Fit
10. Wii Music
11. Animal Crossing Wii
12. Pokémon Battle Revolution

This is just to satisfy my curiosity, but what games on the PS1 appealed to the same audience that Nintendo is currently trying to draw? (i.e. What game matched WiiFit?)Tungsten88

This is the kind of restricted thinking am talking about(no offense).Why does it have to have appeal to the same audience asthe PS1? hasnt that audience been tapped already. Why fish in a barren pond?

Things I've learnt this Week.

1 - E3 can still bring some suprises, in turn,converting this place into a pig-sty.

2 - Apparently, one game can cause a holocaust(I prefer Apocalypse... Maybe it's too strong of a word) on the industry.

3 - Hardcore gamers can be threatened by the likes of... WiiFit. ( :|... :lol: )

This is just to satisfy my curiosity, but what games on the PS1 appealed to the same audience that Nintendo is currently trying to draw? (i.e. What game matched WiiFit?)Tungsten88

When I was 12 or so and the PS1 was out and about, I felt Parappa the Rapper was trying to rope in people who didn't play games.

This is just to satisfy my curiosity, but what games on the PS1 appealed to the same audience that Nintendo is currently trying to draw? (i.e. What game matched WiiFit?)Tungsten88

I believe GTA and FIFA would be good examples.

Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction.kage_53

Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.kage_53

Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.kage_53

You think that Mario Galaxy will not be better than Mario sunshine? yeah thats funny

You think That Super Smash will not be better this time than last time? Yeah ok

You think that Mario Kart wii ill not be better than double dash? Um ok

Thats interesting...

Things I've learnt this Week.

1 - E3 can still bring some suprises, in turn,converting this place into a pig-sty.

2 - Apparently, one game can cause a holocaust(I prefer Apocalypse... Maybe it's too strong of a word) on the industry.

3 - Hardcore gamers can be threatened by the likes of... WiiFit. ( :|... :lol: )

Teh_Stevz

It's not that, it's that longtime gamers feel that Nintendo is selling itself short, and they don't like to see such a company lose itself .

Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.kage_53

That's a little ironic, when you can't even speak English correctly.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Tungsten88"]This is just to satisfy my curiosity, but what games on the PS1 appealed to the same audience that Nintendo is currently trying to draw? (i.e. What game matched WiiFit?)Teh_Stevz

I believe GTA and FIFA would be good examples.

I don't know...if that's true, then the definition of a nongamer has changed. These current Wii games are meant to draw in a nongaming audience, but once that has happened, what then? Will we suddenly transition to "hardcore" games to appeal to that same audience? No. Nintendo will stick to its current nongaming plan and will never come out with a game parallel with GTA. It's not as if gaming moves in shifts: First we will have nongames! Then once those people are hooked, we will give them casual games! Then, come the hardcore games! Ah, the process has finished, we will now transition to nongames once more to draw in a larger audience!

[QUOTE="kage_53"]Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.mojito1988

You think that Mario Galaxy will not be better than Mario sunshine? yeah thats funny

You think That Super Smash will not be better this time than last time? Yeah ok

You think that Mario Kart wii ill not be better than double dash? Um ok

Thats interesting...

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="kage_53"]Anytime you make you main big game announcment at a major event a game like Wii Fitness you know the company is headed for a different direction. Sure Nintendo will still release the Mario Zelda, Metroid for the Nintendo loyalists. I honestly think Wii will be like the GC except it well sell higher and will have worse quality titles. There are other things like the fact they still dont care about online and are making games more simpler.kage_53

[QUOTE="Teh_Stevz"] 3 - Hardcore gamers can be threatened by the likes of... WiiFit. ( :|... :lol: )Tungsten88

That's a misconception. Nintendo have effectively tried to get everyone involved with gaming for a long time. Naturally everyone is but currently nothing Nintendo, or other companies for that matter, has put VGs on the pedalstool it should be on in the form of home interactive entertainment. Nintendo have made a game that can appeal to everyone, like so manygames that have existed before, and it gets the same treatment said non-gamers give for not getting into a game like GRAW... From core gamers.

It's still hilarious everytime I hear that. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

I don't know...if that's true, then the definition of a nongamer has changed. These current Wii games are meant to draw in a nongaming audience, but once that has happened, what then? Will we suddenly transition to "hardcore" games to appeal to that same audience? No. Nintendo will stick to its current nongaming plan and will never come out with a game parallel with GTA. It's not as if gaming moves in shifts: First we will have nongames! Then once those people are hooked, we will give them casual games! Then, come the hardcore games! Ah, the process has finished, we will now transition to nongames once more to draw in a larger audience! Tungsten88

Though I hate to admit it, thats pretty much how the system works but on a smaller scale.

I think the term 'Non-gamer' and even 'Hardcore' is used far too loosely. It sould be stapled as 'Newcomers' and 'Veteran' games and gamers. Sounds much more intune.

What I noticed of the transition, FIFA example, games started to become more lifelike and more mature. It was a growing up transition for games. If you pitt the last FIFA game made on the SNES/Genisis to what came out on the PS1 you can see the transition. It attracted a wider audience and grew. It's somewhat the reason why so many feel so much nostalgia to the games pre-Playstation.

The same thing is happening again this time round.