Epic did what Bungie didn't.

Epic made the upgrade, they made the wow factor again with Gears of War 2, I was worried very much that Gears 2 could end up just like Halo sequels but it didn't, Im shocked, the gameplay is way improved and again it is going to refine the TPS genre, the upgrade was the most important aspect that was missing from Halo 3, Gears of War 2 for the win.

I can rest at last, I don't know if this is the final build but the graphics are a bit better than Gears 1 and I don't care much more than the gameplay itself which looks CRAZY, Marcus is BACK and he is more badass.

Gears 2 looks almost identical to Gears 1, where's the upgrade? Is it coming later?Andrew_Xavier

Yeah, how does the gameplay look "much better"?

Because he rubs his chainsaw against some other meaty bad guys' chainsaw? :S

If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.HAZE-Unit

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.Andrew_Xavier

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

Just the new situation on the battle is an upgrade, the locust shield is crazy, I don't know about you but this little glimpse at the game made me have some faith on EPIC, I hope there are alot of new other things in the game.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.Andrew_Xavier

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

The GeOW2 trailer looked like this? :roll:

You're a lost cause. Why even watch the trailers if you've already made up your mind before comparing the two games?

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.HAZE-Unit

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

Just the new situation on the battle is an upgrade, the locust shield is crazy, I don't know about you but this little glimpse at the game made me have some faith on EPIC, I hope there are alot of new other things in the game.

Gears 2 looks a lot better than Gears 1 but I don't know about refining the Genre AGAIN we don't even know if there is a difference in gameplay I think you are getting ahead of yourself :?f50p90

It is not necessarily should be a new gameplay mechanics, having new situations on battles, new scale of battles, destructible environment...etc, every new idea is a plus for the game even if it is a small one.

Wow.

I had no idea Gun-sword fighting and using a body for cover is so "revolutionary".

Give me a break. The fact that used halo 3 to prove your point makes even less sense to me, considering the gameplay upgrades from it are better than the ones we've seen from gears2.

Quite frankly, Gears2 looks to play exactly like Gears1, and that's a blessing and a curse.

Seriously though, how can you call that gameplay crazy? It looks the EXACT friggen same besides the new weapons and stuff i mentioned earlier in this post...

[QUOTE="f50p90"]Gears 2 looks a lot better than Gears 1 but I don't know about refining the Genre AGAIN we don't even know if there is a difference in gameplay I think you are getting ahead of yourself :?HAZE-Unit

It is not necessarily should be a new gameplay mechanics, having new situations on battles, new scale of battles, destructible environment...etc, every new idea is a plus for the game even if it is a small one.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.Vyse_The_Daring

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

The GeOW2 trailer looked like this? :roll:

You're a lost cause. Why even watch the trailers if you've already made up your mind before comparing the two games?

Having actually owned and played Gears 1, I can say they look remarkably similar. It isn't a large upgrade, are you attempting to claim it is?

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.f50p90

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

Just the new situation on the battle is an upgrade, the locust shield is crazy, I don't know about you but this little glimpse at the game made me have some faith on EPIC, I hope there are alot of new other things in the game.

Ok but it is a cool new idea for the game, and did you see how huge that monster is? I think the battle with it gonna be awesome.

Wow.

I had no idea Gun-sword fighting and using a body for cover is so "revolutionary".

Give me a break. The fact that used halo 3 to prove your point makes even less sense to me, considering the gameplay upgrades from it are better than the ones we've seen from gears2.

Quite frankly, Gears2 looks to play exactly like Gears1, and that's a blessing and a curse.

Seriously though, how can you call that gameplay crazy? It looks the EXACT friggen same besides the new weapons and stuff i mentioned earlier in this post...

ice144

I wish I could find out as much about the game from 1 minute of gameplay vids as you. My jealousy aside, GeOW has: new weapons, more enemies on screen, those larger enemies, new chainsaw moves (not sure if there are more than one, maybe you could tell from that 1 minute), better graphics (unfortunately, most of SW has been struck blind. Tragic), and human shields.

And that was just a teaser.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]Gears 2 looks a lot better than Gears 1 but I don't know about refining the Genre AGAIN we don't even know if there is a difference in gameplay I think you are getting ahead of yourself :?f50p90

It is not necessarily should be a new gameplay mechanics, having new situations on battles, new scale of battles, destructible environment...etc, every new idea is a plus for the game even if it is a small one.

The open enviorments and increased amount of enemies, combined with new abilities like the hostage-taking/neck-snapping ability, should be enough to elevate the gameplay to something much more than Gears 1's simple gunplay.

But, KillZone 2 looks better True-Legend86

ofcourse, the upgrade they did is with the gameplay which is more important.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you didn't see where the upgrade in gameplay then I don't know what to say to you.Andrew_Xavier

Maybe I'm not a big enough Gears fanboy to see what isn't there? Do I need 3-d glasses or something?

The GeOW2 trailer looked like this? :roll:

You're a lost cause. Why even watch the trailers if you've already made up your mind before comparing the two games?

Having actually owned and played Gears 1, I can say they look remarkably similar. It isn't a large upgrade, are you attempting to claim it is?

I've owned and played it myself, actually. It maybe not be huge but it's definitely there. It seems you were originally talking about gameplay, to which I would respond that it was only a short teaser.

But since I started talking about graphics and you still disagreed: I don't think the difference is huge, but there is quite clearly a difference. Especially considering it has been less than 2 years.

I've owned and played it myself, actually. It maybe not be huge but it's definitely there. It seems you were originally talking about gameplay, to which I would respond that it was only a short teaser.

But since I started talking about graphics and you still disagreed: I don't think the difference is huge, but there is quite clearly a difference. Especially considering it has been less than 2 years.

Vyse_The_Daring

It's true, it was just a short teaser, but, no one should be betting the farm on it being this godlike upgrade in gameplay and graphics off that either, now should they?

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]Gears 2 looks a lot better than Gears 1 but I don't know about refining the Genre AGAIN we don't even know if there is a difference in gameplay I think you are getting ahead of yourself :?f50p90

It is not necessarily should be a new gameplay mechanics, having new situations on battles, new scale of battles, destructible environment...etc, every new idea is a plus for the game even if it is a small one.

But adding this features gives More variety in gameplay which seems way more advanced than Gears 1 and we don't know what other new skills and tricks they are hiding.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

I've owned and played it myself, actually. It maybe not be huge but it's definitely there. It seems you were originally talking about gameplay, to which I would respond that it was only a short teaser.

But since I started talking about graphics and you still disagreed: I don't think the difference is huge, but there is quite clearly a difference. Especially considering it has been less than 2 years.

Andrew_Xavier

It's true, it was just a short teaser, but, no one should be betting the farm on it being this godlike upgrade in gameplay and graphics off that either, now should they?

Nope. Just a damn good sequel. Looks like both sides might be wrong.

Of course, haters have thus far ignored the fact that Epic addressed many of the flaws they bashed Gears endlessly for: not enough vehicles, too few enemies on screen, small levels, etc.

I agree, Gears of War 2 will be the best third person shooter in 2008.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

I've owned and played it myself, actually. It maybe not be huge but it's definitely there. It seems you were originally talking about gameplay, to which I would respond that it was only a short teaser.

But since I started talking about graphics and you still disagreed: I don't think the difference is huge, but there is quite clearly a difference. Especially considering it has been less than 2 years.

Vyse_The_Daring

It's true, it was just a short teaser, but, no one should be betting the farm on it being this godlike upgrade in gameplay and graphics off that either, now should they?

Nope. Just a damn good sequel. Looks like both sides might be wrong.

Of course, haters have thus far ignored the fact that Epic addressed many of the flaws they bashed Gears endlessly for: not enough vehicles, too few enemies on screen, small levels, etc.

I'm sure it'll end up as being a slight upgrade with some problems from 1 fixed.

Of course, NHL 08 had a complete AI overhaul, updated animations, updated graphics, completely new game play, and was called a minor upgrade, so, you know.

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

I've owned and played it myself, actually. It maybe not be huge but it's definitely there. It seems you were originally talking about gameplay, to which I would respond that it was only a short teaser.

But since I started talking about graphics and you still disagreed: I don't think the difference is huge, but there is quite clearly a difference. Especially considering it has been less than 2 years.

Andrew_Xavier

It's true, it was just a short teaser, but, no one should be betting the farm on it being this godlike upgrade in gameplay and graphics off that either, now should they?

I agree, it is a short teaser but it delivered and gave us insight to what to expect from Gears 2, a more advanced Gears.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

Wow.

I had no idea Gun-sword fighting and using a body for cover is so "revolutionary".

Give me a break. The fact that used halo 3 to prove your point makes even less sense to me, considering the gameplay upgrades from it are better than the ones we've seen from gears2.

Quite frankly, Gears2 looks to play exactly like Gears1, and that's a blessing and a curse.

Seriously though, how can you call that gameplay crazy? It looks the EXACT friggen same besides the new weapons and stuff i mentioned earlier in this post...

Vyse_The_Daring

I wish I could find out as much about the game from 1 minute of gameplay vids as you. My jealousy aside, GeOW has: new weapons, more enemies on screen, those larger enemies, new chainsaw moves (not sure if there are more than one, maybe you could tell from that 1 minute), better graphics (unfortunately, most of SW has been struck blind. Tragic), and human shields.

And that was just a teaser.

Let's See:

Enemies on screen: I have this HUGE feeling that it'll be another resistance and medal of honor:frontline, where there'll only be one of these "epic" levels in the game, and that they showed us this one to make us believe that the whole game will be like this, which i highly doubt, as we've seen this tactic used before by other developers.

Gameplay: Apparently, you saw the exact same things i saw, yet instead you seem content with it, unlike me. Sorry, but none of those are "revolutionary" like the first one brought us, at all. All i've seen so far is a sequel that hasnt tried to get out of its safety zone.

Graphics: Graphics are amazing, though it suffers kz2's no-color syndrome. No problem at all here.

There, we both found out the same thing about the game, but we've just looked at it differently.

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

HAZE-Unit

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

Brought back the assault rifle

Had wide expansive levels

Better vhicle segments

Got rid of most corridor's

Excellent graphics

Gave the feeling of yoou being in an epic battle (like halo 1 dd)

new gameplay elements like forge, and equipment

Those are the huge upgrade bungie did fo halo 3 over it previous so Idk what your talking about when you say bungie did very little to upgrade halo 3 :roll:

If anything Gears 2 is just like the Halo series.

Same formula refined by each sequal.

Whats the difference?

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

Brought back the assault rifle

Had wide expansive levels

Better vhicle segments

Got rid of most corridor's

Excellent graphics

Gave the feeling of yoou being in an epic battle (like halo 1 dd)

new gameplay elements like forge, and equipment

Those are the huge upgrade bungie did fo halo 3 over it previous so Idk what your talking about when you say bungie did very little to upgrade halo 3 :roll:

So bringing back an old weapon is something revolutionary. :lol:

wide open battles is an old idea from Bungie, nothing new again.

Didn't make a big impact.

I don't see it as a bad thing.

The feeling of Epic battle like Halo 1, all I felt is meh from the beginning of the campaign.

So you are telling me they went backwards instead of doing something new, all I wanted to see at least destructible environment which they failed miserly at it, where is the next gen feel? where is the groundbreaking stuff? I wanted Halo to be different but it failed.

Don't talk about features, everybody make them, I want to talk about the core gameplay and what they really added, I felt the same as playing the other Halos in a bad way.

If anything Gears 2 is just like the Halo series.

Same formula refined by each sequal.

Whats the difference?

skrat_01

I mean if you think about it most games are like that, from Madden to GTA to Gran Turismo to Guitar Hero, these games formula stays the same with improvements.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

If anything Gears 2 is just like the Halo series.

Same formula refined by each sequal.

Whats the difference?

ReverseCycology

I mean if you think about it most games are like that, from Madden to GTA to Gran Turismo to Guitar Hero, these games formula stays the same with improvements.

But Halo 3 didn't make the whole electrifying feel as the next-gen Halo.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

HAZE-Unit

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

Brought back the assault rifle

Had wide expansive levels

Better vhicle segments

Got rid of most corridor's

Excellent graphics

Gave the feeling of yoou being in an epic battle (like halo 1 dd)

new gameplay elements like forge, and equipment

Those are the huge upgrade bungie did fo halo 3 over it previous so Idk what your talking about when you say bungie did very little to upgrade halo 3 :roll:

So bringing back an old weapon is something revolutionary. :lol:

wide open battles is an old idea from Bungie, nothing new again.

Didn't make a big impact.

I don't see it as a bad thing.

The feeling of Epic battle like Halo 1, all I felt is meh from the beginning of the campaign.

So you are telling me they went backwards instead of doing something new, all I wanted to see at least destructible environment which they failed miserly at it, where is the next gen feel? where is the groundbreaking stuff? I wanted Halo to be different but it failed.

Don't talk about features, everybody make them, I want to talk about the core gameplay and what they really added, I felt the same as playing the other Halos in a bad way.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

Brought back the assault rifle

Had wide expansive levels

Better vhicle segments

Got rid of most corridor's

Excellent graphics

Gave the feeling of yoou being in an epic battle (like halo 1 dd)

new gameplay elements like forge, and equipment

Those are the huge upgrade bungie did fo halo 3 over it previous so Idk what your talking about when you say bungie did very little to upgrade halo 3 :roll:

So bringing back an old weapon is something revolutionary. :lol:

wide open battles is an old idea from Bungie, nothing new again.

Didn't make a big impact.

I don't see it as a bad thing.

The feeling of Epic battle like Halo 1, all I felt is meh from the beginning of the campaign.

So you are telling me they went backwards instead of doing something new, all I wanted to see at least destructible environment which they failed miserly at it, where is the next gen feel? where is the groundbreaking stuff? I wanted Halo to be different but it failed.

Don't talk about features, everybody make them, I want to talk about the core gameplay and what they really added, I felt the same as playing the other Halos in a bad way.

Watching new ideas are always better than just playing the same gameplay from last gen, this is a glimpse of what Gears 2 going to be, more enemies, new animations, new moves, new battle grounds.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

There was a huge upgrade in halo 3 from halo 2 so what are you talking about :?

Misinformation FTL:lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

What huge upgrade you are talking about? tell me, Im eager to hear what is so damn different that make me say "Halo 3 did what Halo : CE did for console FPS"

Brought back the assault rifle

Had wide expansive levels

Better vhicle segments

Got rid of most corridor's

Excellent graphics

Gave the feeling of yoou being in an epic battle (like halo 1 dd)

new gameplay elements like forge, and equipment

Those are the huge upgrade bungie did fo halo 3 over it previous so Idk what your talking about when you say bungie did very little to upgrade halo 3 :roll:

except they removed those epic three-sided battles. I'm not disagreeing with your general point, but Halo 3 was an unfortunate step back in that respect.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

HAZE-Unit

Watching new ideas are always better than just playing the same gameplay from last gen, this is a glimpse of what Gears 2 going to be, more enemies, new animations, new moves, new battle grounds.

New animations:| ? Are you kidding me ? what you just listed was laughable because If those are the UPGRADES your speaking of then you my friend are a hypocrite because halo 3 did everything that you requierd for there to be an upgrade and some.

More enemie's = Brutes, new flood forms, Scarab tank, brute chooper

New animations :?

New move = Equpiment, forge, replays

New battle ground = The entire halo 3 game.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Mordred19

except they removed those epic three-sided battles. I'm not disagreeing with your general point, but Halo 3 was an unfortunate step back in that respect.

Gears 2 looks nice, but just not as much as I thought it would be these forums made it seem like the second coming a christ...but why do I disalusion myself to thinking threads are always fact!

Gears 2 sure is a step above Gears 1 but I was not even a fan of Gears 1 so I doubt 2 will impress me much...maybe I'm just jaded against all FPS's...

But, KillZone 2 looks better True-Legend86

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Watching new ideas are always better than just playing the same gameplay from last gen, this is a glimpse of what Gears 2 going to be, more enemies, new animations, new moves, new battle grounds.

New animations:| ? Are you kidding me ? what you just listed was laughable because If those are the UPGRADES your speaking of then you my friend are a hypocrite because halo 3 did everything that you requierd for there to be an upgrade and some.

More enemie's = Brutes, new flood forms, Scarab tank, brute chooper

New animations :?

New move = Equpiment, forge, replays

New battle ground = The entire halo 3 game.

Typo, my bad, Im tired because I didn't go to sleep just for the damn teaser, I was referring to the new moves so I wrote new animations and new moves and I didn't see it, lol.

Again Im a bit tired so I'll clarify it more, what I meant about new battle grounds is what I said earlier about the new situation on battles, fighting that giant monster in a vehicle while locusts jumping over looks sick.

Gears 2 looks nice, but just not as much as I thought it would be these forums made it seem like the second coming a christ...but why do I disalusion myself to thinking threads are always fact!

Gears 2 sure is a step above Gears 1 but I was not even a fan of Gears 1 so I doubt 2 will impress me much...maybe I'm just jaded against all FPS's...

Jynxzor

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

If anything Gears 2 is just like the Halo series.

Same formula refined by each sequal.

Whats the difference?

ReverseCycology

I mean if you think about it most games are like that, from Madden to GTA to Gran Turismo to Guitar Hero, these games formula stays the same with improvements.