epicgames confirms xbox360 is more powerful than ps3.

Another advantage was having the Gears of War guys come over; they knew where good memory trade-offs could be made. The PS3 has two memory chunks, one for texture detail and one for geometry complexity, so...we can't share those pools like you can on the Xbox 360. So there were two stages; get memory in line and then get geometry in line. Once we accomplished those, the optimizations rolled back into a faster PC experience [when played] on a lower-end machine.

GamePro: Interesting. So the PS3 really is closer to a PC's setup, with separate RAM pools for graphics and system memory...

JM: ...Exactly. It reminds me of old DOS memory management. You know, "I wish I could get that one kilobyte out of the texture memory and put it into the geometry memory instead."

XBOX360 HAS MORE RAM BECAUSE IT'S UNIFIED.

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/158468.shtml

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

bigboogayo

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Damn ban dodgers.

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

cool_guy2000

Just because a game looks nicer doesn't mean it's all in the hardware.

Damn ban dodgers.

[QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Erebyssial

Just because a game looks nicer doesn't mean it's all in the hardware.

bu bu teh unified shaderz the custom built SUPER ATI card- yeh no.

Lems should really stop with this stuff...seriously.

Both consoles can do the same basic stuff which is all that really matters.

Sometimes the Xbox 360 will have the edge, sometimes the Playstation 3 will. Get used to it.

Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedukillwegrill

turn it the otherway round.....thats the true order. FACT!

[QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

cool_guy2000

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

That's clearly an opinion. The PS3 has been out what, 1 year? Wait in 2-4 years when they are able to unlock the cell's true power.

Also the 360 has a 30% failure rate which Microsoft new about and still release it to consumers. They really don't care about their customers, at least Sony does. Which is why I rather buy a PS 3 than an Xbox 360.

Also who is Epic games to talk. They have been accused of purposely holding back their engine support so they can get the edge from their competitors. Unreal 3 was a dissapointment. What was the last great Epic game that was actually lengthly? Unreal 2k4. That's a few years ago.

Gears of War is great and all but really it's too short and too hyped. In conclusion I have little credibility for Epic considering the buggy GOW PC release, and zero credibility for Microsoft and their monopolization tactics.

Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedukillwegrill

:lol: I think VP looks more impressive than any of the realistic looking games about atm, I would have loved a wind waker update using that sort of engine but oh well...

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedcool_guy2000

turn it the otherway round.....thats the true order. FACT!

No its not, its personal preference

Viva Pinata > every PS3 title

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

Honestly, it doesn't really matter. They are to close to really tell apart, it's just nitpicking.

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

householdman

Running at 10000FPS

[QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

ukillwegrill

Running at 10000FPS

hehe, 64 COLOURS ON SCREEN AT ONCE!!!

[QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

ukillwegrill

Running at 10000FPS

It was 9000000FPS. get your facts rite!

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

dragon_master11

Running at 10000FPS

It was 9000000FPS. get your facts rite!

Sewer Shark was the best game ever. They should remake it on the PS3 and 360, GOTY Confirmed.

since theres Way more opinions backing up the fact that it IS the best looking console game ATM...you can pretty much say it s a fact.

The rest is fanboy opinions and jealousy. i'll take Reviews/previews over your opinion ANYDAY, wii60

BTW, if you keep thinking i'm someone else, i'll have to report you for annoyance.

cool_guy2000

[QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

cool_guy2000

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Viva Pinata > Dude raider

[QUOTE="dragon_master11"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

householdman

Running at 10000FPS

It was 9000000FPS. get your facts rite!

Sewer Shark was the best game ever. They should remake it on the PS3 and 360, GOTY Confirmed.

Game of the Century

Sewer Shark > Crysis

on low

What now?

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedcool_guy2000

turn it the otherway round.....thats the true order. FACT!

lol no...

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

householdman

Running at 10000FPS

hehe, 64 COLOURS ON SCREEN AT ONCE!!!

1 color = to 1,000,000,000 colour... SO THATS 64,000,000,000 COLORS ! Thats insane !

Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedukillwegrill

I'm playing through Uncharted right now, and all I can think of on this post is aaaahaha hahahahahhaha haaaaaaa. BS!

Uncharted walks the walk in graphics, its insane. Smokes Bioshock and Mass Effect. WITH more stuff on screen on top of things.

[QUOTE="householdman"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="householdman"]

Pffft. Everyone knows the Sega CD has the best graphics, FULL MOTION VIDEO!!!!

player_leo

Running at 10000FPS

hehe, 64 COLOURS ON SCREEN AT ONCE!!!

1 color = to 1,000,000,000 colour... SO THATS 64,000,000,000 COLORS ! Thats insane !

So there I was, playing Road Avenger, and BAM, I missed the right on the warf. The resulting crash looked so realistic. MUCH better than Crysis.

Uncharted>All current console games

I thought this was already a well known fact.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Unchartedcaseypayne69

I'm playing through Uncharted right now, and all I can think of on this post is aaaahaha hahahahahhaha haaaaaaa. BS!

Uncharted walks the walk in graphics, its insane. Smokes Bioshock and Mass Effect. WITH more stuff on screen on top of things.

Uncharted>All current console games

I thought this was already a well known fact.

Khansoul

0_o SMG got GOTY bruth. Anyway, that's all opinion.

Uncharted>All current console games

I thought this was already a well known fact.

Khansoul

[QUOTE="cool_guy2000"][QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

-wii60-

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Gamespy, Eurogamer and Ripten are all saying not only is it the best game on consoles graphically, but that it's not even possible on X360. Show me games on X360 that look anything like UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or GT: Prologue.

Ripten review: http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/

"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."

"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"

Eurogamer review: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2

"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."

"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."

Gamespy: http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html

"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"][QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

EmperorSupreme

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Gamespy, Eurogamer and Ripten are all saying not only is it the best game on consoles graphically, but that it's not even possible on X360. Show me games on X360 that look anything like UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or GT: Prologue.

Ripten review: http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/

"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."

"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"

Eurogamer review: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2

"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."

"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."

Gamespy: http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html

"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"][QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

PS3 IS A GHETTO PC.

XBOX360 IS REAL CONSOLE.

JM: Basically, the Cell's SPEs are "accelerator processors" that function in addition to the primary processors. [To take advantage of the SPEs], we look for tasks that don't require insane CPU power but could be done in the background, in parallel. There are some threads in our multi-threaded code that we can dedicate to a single SPE, and the process will run happily in background while the main CPUs are dealing with AI and game play. If you program the Cell CPU the correct way, it is like having all these simple things in parallel. That's the thing about regular PCs; computers are really dumb, but incredibly fast. PCs can perform one little logical thing like crazy [makes rapid, back-and-forth ping-pong motion], and so we need to find those little logic checks that we can kick out to the SPEs. Doing so frees up the primary CPUs from having to do those mindless, but necessary, tasks

cell is nothing special.

-wii60-

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Gamespy, Eurogamer and Ripten are all saying not only is it the best game on consoles graphically, but that it's not even possible on X360. Show me games on X360 that look anything like UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or GT: Prologue.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > Uncharted-wii60-

I'm playing through Uncharted right now, and all I can think of on this post is aaaahaha hahahahahhaha haaaaaaa. BS!

Uncharted walks the walk in graphics, its insane. Smokes Bioshock and Mass Effect. WITH more stuff on screen on top of things.

You haven't played it! You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Everyone knows you haven't played it and have no idea what the game is like. Please, stop pretending, you aren't fooling anyone.

Chitebox, you havnt even seen those games on the 360 once, theyve all been PC screens, and they could be originally like 4000x 1800 resolution like the early Crysis ones were.

You cant say it looks better until you see them.

Chitebox, you havnt even seen those games on the 360 once, theyve all been PC screens, and they could be originally like 4000x 1800 resolution like the early Crysis ones were.

You cant say it looks better until you see them.

Meu2k7

I never said they look better. You actually just proved the point I was making towards wii60.

Edit: I quoted wrong somehow, now I see why you think I said that.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"][QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

-wii60-

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Gamespy, Eurogamer and Ripten are all saying not only is it the best game on consoles graphically, but that it's not even possible on X360. Show me games on X360 that look anything like UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or GT: Prologue.

Ripten review: http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/

"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."

"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"

Eurogamer review: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2

"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."

"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."

Gamespy: http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html

"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."

Your getting off topic and you are all kinds of wrong today. If we want to play future releases it's no competition. PS3 is the winner.

Secondly it's sad but X360 topped out over a year ago with Gears of War that's why in 14 months they can't make anything better. Meanwhile PS3 keeps getting better and better month after month.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Chitebox, you havnt even seen those games on the 360 once, theyve all been PC screens, and they could be originally like 4000x 1800 resolution like the early Crysis ones were.

You cant say it looks better until you see them.

Chutebox

I never said they look better. You actually just proved the point I was making towards wii60.

Oh yea, my bad sorry, didnt notice the broken quote :P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Chitebox, you havnt even seen those games on the 360 once, theyve all been PC screens, and they could be originally like 4000x 1800 resolution like the early Crysis ones were.

You cant say it looks better until you see them.

Meu2k7

I never said they look better. You actually just proved the point I was making towards wii60.

Oh yea, my bad sorry, didnt notice the broken quote :P

Was my bad lol, just fixed it.

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]Viva Pinata > Crysis > Mass effect > UnchartedChutebox

I'm playing through Uncharted right now, and all I can think of on this post is aaaahaha hahahahahhaha haaaaaaa. BS!

Uncharted walks the walk in graphics, its insane. Smokes Bioshock and Mass Effect. WITH more stuff on screen on top of things.

You haven't played it! You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Everyone knows you haven't played it and have no idea what the game is like. Please, stop pretending, you aren't fooling anyone.

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"][QUOTE="bigboogayo"]

EmperorSupreme

Uncharted > any 360 game, visually....and how long has the 360 been out for?

/thread.

Gamespy, Eurogamer and Ripten are all saying not only is it the best game on consoles graphically, but that it's not even possible on X360. Show me games on X360 that look anything like UT3, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or GT: Prologue.

Ripten review: http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/01/uncharted-drakes-fortune-review/

"Uncharted has great textures. So what? Well Gears of War is lauded as a graphical show piece mainly due to both its artistic vision and its high resolution textures. Uncharted, however, trumps Gears of War."

"Uncharted also has the best graphics you've ever seen on consoles"

Eurogamer review: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87533&page=2

"Talking of environments, it's hard to think of a single game that's ever included such lush and staggeringly detailed gaming environment. As much as Gears of War provided a stunning next-generation shooter setting, the moody greys and browns made it a harsh, dark, hostile, and monochromatic place to be. In Uncharted, it's not just superior to Gears in terms of out and out detail, but brings a feel-good factor with the sheer level of environmental variety on offer."

"Truly, Uncharted is the first game I've seen to date that makes me wonder if it could be done on the Xbox 360, and as a huge admirer of the software line-up on Microsoft's system, that's saying a lot."

Gamespy: http://goty.gamespy.com/2007/ps3/10.html

"We can confidently say that after playing Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, it is a game that could only be done on the PlayStation 3. Between the amazing vistas that stretch out over the horizon, rich foliage, and the sheer amount of data that pushes the limits of Blu-ray's storage capacity, Naughty Dog's incredibly rich visual splendor is something to behold."

Your getting off topic and you are all kinds of wrong today. If we want to play future releases it's no competition. PS3 is the winner.

Secondly it's sad but X360 topped out over a year ago with Gears of War that's why in 14 months they can't make anything better. Meanwhile PS3 keeps getting better and better month after month.

Sewer Shark and Viva Pinata > Uncharted all uncharted has is pretty grass and trees

Have u saw the detail on those paper animals?

Have you saw the sheer amount of colours on screen in sewer shark?