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#51 Bdking57
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Mark Rein is an idiot...only a fool believes what this guy says anymore
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#52 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

I see your first statement doesn't account for a change in platforms?Danm_999

It's going to look better on the same platform too. Your creating irrelevant distinctions.

SO if UT3 came to wii with Unreal Engine should it look better than GeOW also? Nah your not gonna say that are you?Blinblingthing

Creating strawman arguments is not helping you here. You know my point, the 360 and PS3 are of comparable power; one would assume two extra years with the same engine and the same developer would yield better results.

No one was arguing Exclusivity.

The real topic is PS3 outdoing what X360's GeOW did.

Blinblingthing

Which is a really pointless victory. If your looking to 2008 to beat what the 360 was doing in 2006 there is a problem. IMO something like Uncharted looks better in 2007 anyway.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

I see your first statement doesn't account for a change in platforms?Danm_999

It's going to look better on the same platform too. Your creating irrelevant distinctions.

Yea, 360 and 360 aren't the Same Platform, Same with Wii. The Engine Won't run better on PS3 in 2k8 than it did on 360 in 2k6 automatically.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]SO if UT3 came to wii with Unreal Engine should it look better than GeOW also? Nah your not gonna say that are you?Danm_999

Creating strawman arguments is not helping you here. You know my point, the 360 and PS3 are of comparable power; one would assume two extra years with the same engine and the same developer would yield better results.

yes it comparable power. but ps3 is more powerful. People here in SW love to say best Looking games exist on X360, Truth is that only because devs hadn't figured out Cell yet, Now they have, You'll see PS3 games looking best See COD4 etc

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#53 Blinblingthing
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Since when was Exclusivity an issue to be discussed??

Pripyat

Since the point of the argument was that UT3 looked better than Gears. If UT3 is also on 360, aren't all things equal?

Mark Rein has Said way before this. UT3 runs better than GeOW did on 360, PS3 having more maps than 360 version, Mark Rein has been Praising the PS3 version of UT3 all this time

What make anyone think 360 is any better?

Yeah? http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/821/821817p1.html

"Mark Rein said that they are shooting for a November release and did say that the PS3 version would have "most" of the content that would be found in its PC brother. He said that there would be a couple of maps that would be left out of the PS3 version simply because the system didn't have the resources to produce a smooth gameplay experience."

Cows never learn.

where is the evidence of 360 superiority???

PS3 has more maps than the 360 version bro.

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#54 Blinblingthing
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Yawn once again consoles arguing over second place while PC stays high atop smiling down upon them.Cali3350

I Don't have a 1.5k dollar PC

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#55 hurley_house
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i see no logic, this game is coming to xbox 360 also aswell as the definitive version on the pc :|
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#56 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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i see no logichurley_house

Here is where you made your first mistake.

Logic, the fanboy kryptonite.

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#57 hurley_house
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[QUOTE="hurley_house"]i see no logicblue_hazy_basic

Here is where you made your first mistake.

Logic, the fanboy kryptonite.

funnies ? :S

anywho if anything 1 would expect that given that more devolpment time and familarity with the xbox 360 its going to look better or a definite match to the ps3 version

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#58 MIYAMOTOnext007
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]Yawn once again consoles arguing over second place while PC stays high atop smiling down upon them.Blinblingthing

I Don't have a 1.5k dollar PC

start saving;)
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#59 Private_Vegas
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This topic started off being about how UT3 was graphically superior to Gears of War. Where did all this talk of extra maps and mods come from?

I don't see many PS3 users making their own mods anyways. Anyone who wants a game for that purpose would be better off with the PC version.

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#60 AdolescentDon
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What a pathetic attempt at... well whatever that was.
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#61 SER69
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Calling MarkRein an idiot would be an insult to all the stupid people.
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]gears is an year old game if you didnt know and UT3 will be on xbox 360 as wellBlinblingthing

That Isn't the point. The point is PS3 has otdone X360.

And to the other Guy. GeOW outscored Halo 3

I don't understand how the 360 is outdone if it going to be on the 360 as well, so 360 owners have Gears and UT3, don't understand how that can be thought of as a negative thing.

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#63 covhunter
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]gears is an year old game if you didnt know and UT3 will be on xbox 360 as wellLEGEND_C4A

That Isn't the point. The point is PS3 has otdone X360.

And to the other Guy. GeOW outscored Halo 3

I don't understand how the 360 is outdone if it going to be on the 360 as well, so 360 owners have Gears and UT3, don't understand how that can be thought of as a negative thing.

Cows don't really have a lot else. It's amazing howthey try to call itownage that a game that not only uses the same engine but alsocame out a fullyear after Gears looks better. To be honest if it didn'tlook better thenEpic would look retarded and the PS3 would be seen as a joke.

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#64 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

I see your first statement doesn't account for a change in platforms?Blinblingthing

It's going to look better on the same platform too. Your creating irrelevant distinctions.

SO if UT3 came to wii with Unreal Engine should it look better than GeOW also? Nah your not gonna say that are you?Blinblingthing

Creating strawman arguments is not helping you here. You know my point, the 360 and PS3 are of comparable power; one would assume two extra years with the same engine and the same developer would yield better results.

No one was arguing Exclusivity.

The real topic is PS3 outdoing what X360's GeOW did.

Blinblingthing

Which is a really pointless victory. If your looking to 2008 to beat what the 360 was doing in 2006 there is a problem. IMO something like Uncharted looks better in 2007 anyway.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

I see your first statement doesn't account for a change in platforms?Danm_999

It's going to look better on the same platform too. Your creating irrelevant distinctions.

Yea, 360 and 360 aren't the Same Platform, Same with Wii. The Engine Won't run better on PS3 in 2k8 than it did on 360 in 2k6 automatically.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]SO if UT3 came to wii with Unreal Engine should it look better than GeOW also? Nah your not gonna say that are you?Danm_999

Creating strawman arguments is not helping you here. You know my point, the 360 and PS3 are of comparable power; one would assume two extra years with the same engine and the same developer would yield better results.

yes it comparable power. but ps3 is more powerful. People here in SW love to say best Looking games exist on X360, Truth is that only because devs hadn't figured out Cell yet, Now they have, You'll see PS3 games looking best See COD4 etc

what exactly does that mean they haven't figured out the Cell yet? wouldn't that also mean that the Wii and 360 have some extra juice to figure out as well? how much stuff you think is hiding in that little chip anyway?

not to say we won't see even better games in the future but it goes for all 3 systems.

don't you guys get tired listening to people say, we only used 30% power or this and that, how can they tell how much they have used it they are still figuring things out and don't truly know the full potential in the first place.

man screw all this, give me games I can enjoy. thats all I want to know, I'm 100% happy playing games, period!

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#65 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]gears is an year old game if you didnt know and UT3 will be on xbox 360 as wellcovhunter

That Isn't the point. The point is PS3 has otdone X360.

And to the other Guy. GeOW outscored Halo 3

I don't understand how the 360 is outdone if it going to be on the 360 as well, so 360 owners have Gears and UT3, don't understand how that can be thought of as a negative thing.

Cows don't really have a lot else. It's amazing howthey try to call itownage that a game that not only uses the same engine but alsocame out a fullyear after Gears looks better. To be honest if it didn'tlook better thenEpic would look retarded and the PS3 would be seen as a joke.

all i know is that every one in this forum, thinks too damn much, I've been saying the same thing practically in every thread. I don't care about poly this, poly that, shader this, shader that, just give me a game I want to play after a hard days work and I'm good.

to this day I rather play operation flashpoint over a lot of games out today, and thats because of the game play, that game is one of the ugliest games you will ever see, but where it counts it does a fantastic job, gameplay!

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#66 GT-JPWhoopass
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lmao, Im using this for a sig in another forum

Unreal 3, MGS 4, Assasin Creed, Gta4, Warhawk, Heavelysword, Racket and clank, finalfantasy13, finalfantasy versus 13, home, littlebigplanet, gt5, haze, killzone2, metalgearonline, uncharted: drake's fortune, devilmaycry4, residentevil 5 .. oh my .. ps3 games overloadedddd

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#67 Fuzzy_Munch
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Unreal 3 is much better than gears, graphically. despite using the same unreal ungine

says so Epic's vice president Mark Rein

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-11-2007-6856.html

"are going to be pleasantly surprised. It's a really high end experience that pushes the graphics bar up even higher than Gears of War. There's more polygons, there's more stuff going on, there's more explosions and there's more things happening, so we're just really pleased with the way the game runs on the PS3"

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

yup. read that again.

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

weiliang_1988

And then the Times released 360 version comes out and looks better then the PS3 version with more maps and better textures and AA turned on. So COME AGAIN

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#68 OremLK
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This is hilarious. Of course it looks better, the developer who made the engine has had over a year to optimize it. I can guarantee you, though, that UT3 on the PC looks and runs better than it ever will on the PS3.
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#69 Zero-G_basic
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And when Gears 2 comes out and looks better than UT3 watch mark rein praise that lol. You know it's gonna happen. In case you dumb cows didn't notice Xbox360 will get the game too so ownage denied.

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#70 ChinoJamesKeene
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Too bad its UT3 for PS3 will not do as well as gears though. imskeptical it will find life on a console like it does on PC. At least if you get the console version you won't have to worry bout finding games, plenty of PC servers goin.
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#71 frankeyser
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one would hope a game coming to the ps3 in its second year (it came out in november and U3 does not come out this month)built on the unreal 3 engine looks better than a game that came out 2 years ago on a systems first year built on the same engine. i would hope any developer would learn to use there own coding better. i mean gears of war on pc's new levels are built on updated software of unreal 3. if it looked worse than one of there older games i would have to smack around cliffy b and mark rein with a wiimote nunchuk controler.
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#72 lawlessx
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this is a joke thread right? gears of war came out last year and you're running around saying it got owned because a game that is coming out a full year afterwards will look better? the deveopers had a entire year after gears of war to improve on the unreal 3 engine...so of course the their next big game using that engine will look better then a last year's project :roll:

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#73 TBoogy
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Unreal 3 is much better than gears, graphically. despite using the same unreal ungine

says so Epic's vice president Mark Rein

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-11-2007-6856.html

"are going to be pleasantly surprised. It's a really high end experience that pushes the graphics bar up even higher than Gears of War. There's more polygons, there's more stuff going on, there's more explosions and there's more things happening, so we're just really pleased with the way the game runs on the PS3"

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

yup. read that again.

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

weiliang_1988

Um, so?

Was this not expected? I figured it would be the better game graphically.

Thank God it is a multiplat, and the 360 version that follows shortly behind will be better.

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#74 hywel69
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What a moronic statement. So what, UT3 is not even exclusive, I already played the dem on my PC and its meh. Read about how well the 360 version is running here as well if you like. http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-80203.aspx Perhaps your post should read. AMAZING UT3 for 360 owns GEARS for 360...A YEAR OLD GAME...AMAZING!!! News Flash. UT3 uses newer version of the Same Engine! It would not suprise me if 360 UT3 > PS3 UT. Face it most other mutliplats too. Not to mention games that have their heart on the PC (aka DirectX) tend to look better on the 360 anyhow. Cya!
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#75 trizzle_a
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The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.
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The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.trizzle_a

please tell me that avatar is not a picture of you. :x

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#77 AgentA-Mi6
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the game ain't coming to the 360 unless u give me a damm link ... ...

weiliang_1988

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/unrealtournament2007/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Sorry Comrade :'(

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#78 The_Crucible
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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]:| This is a joke topic, right?Zenkuso

Probably just woke up on the wrong side of common sense this morning ;)

We'll see what that 360 port looks like.

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#79 panos322
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the game ain't coming to the 360 unless u give me a damm link ... ...

well its gonna be great on the ps3 ..

i don't see any "pc" mentioning in the article

weiliang_1988

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&qs=unreal+tournament+3

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The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.trizzle_a
When did they say that:|
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[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.WuTangG
When did they say that:|

I do believe it was Mark Rein who said Gears couldn't be done on the PS3.
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#82 flatline711
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[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

the game ain't coming to the 360 unless u give me a damm link ... ...

well its gonna be great on the ps3 ..

i don't see any "pc" mentioning in the article

panos322

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&qs=unreal+tournament+3

.....

Pwnt o.o

lol I don't even know why the TC bothers anymore.

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#83 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="trizzle_a"]The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.BreakingPoint8
When did they say that:|

I do believe it was Mark Rein who said Gears couldn't be done on the PS3.

But when he talks out of his backside now its all true?
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I played the UT3 demo for the pc and its UGLY

the retail version better improve visually or else im not going to buy it.

I get almost 90 fps for ut3 on the pc while only about 50fps for g.e.o.w pc

its called B.S public relations

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#85 beavisofcod2
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lol this thread is a joke

since this game is coming out on 360, there's no reason to get all pissy, but the 360 people defensive and so do the PS3 people... so since thsi game is coming out on the 360 too, how would you compare it to GeOW? c'mon now don't get trademarked hardware involved, i don't need any product placement in a gaming thread

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#86 WuTangG
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I played the UT3 demo for the pc and its UGLY

the retail version better improve visually or else im not going to buy it.

I get almost 90 fps for ut3 on the pc while only about 50fps for g.e.o.w pc

its called B.S public relations

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Yeah it was really ugly, but that was because it was capped at medium
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#87 Relys
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It's coming to the 360 too! You just got soo pwned! lol!
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#88 WuTangG
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lol this thread is a joke

since this game is coming out on 360, there's no reason to get all pissy, but the 360 people defensive and so do the PS3 people... so since thsi game is coming out on the 360 too, how would you compare it to GeOW? c'mon now don't get trademarked hardware involved, i don't need any product placement in a gaming thread

beavisofcod2

Defensive after an attack?

Offcourse, the only ownage in this thread is Cow self-ownage:lol:

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[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.WuTangG
When did they say that:|

MILLIONS OF TIMES !

they said that Mgs4 could be easly done on the 360 but that the Ps3 could never run anything nearly as good looking as gears!

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#90 Mercenary343
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Lol, fanboyism at its best.

Do you actually believe that a guy that works for Epic is going to say anything but praise about their new game? Sales are what they are aiming for, so of course they are going to say it surpasses their previous efforts. Jesus.

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#91 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="trizzle_a"]The point is that lemmings said GeoW couldn't be done on PS3, now they are eating their words and are in major DC mode.AgentA-Mi6

When did they say that:|

MILLIONS OF TIMES !

they said that Mgs4 could be easly done on the 360 but that the Ps3 could never run anything nearly as good looking as gears!

And Hermits said 360 couldnt run FEAR because CoD 2 had lower res textures:|
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#92 alamgir1942
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Epic Games made the unreal engine 3 and gears of war is 1 years old. Epic should obviously be making better graphics with the unreal engine 3. Also UT3 is going to Xbox 360.
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#93 jlh47
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Unreal 3 is much better than gears, graphically. despite using the same unreal ungine

says so Epic's vice president Mark Rein

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-11-2007-6856.html

"are going to be pleasantly surprised. It's a really high end experience that pushes the graphics bar up even higher than Gears of War. There's more polygons, there's more stuff going on, there's more explosions and there's more things happening, so we're just really pleased with the way the game runs on the PS3"

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

yup. read that again.

Ut3 has just owned the 360 highest scoring game ... gears.

weiliang_1988

you do remember it's coming to the 360 as well? and he didn't say there's a huge difference.

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#94 jackvegas21
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Thats cool. I'm getting it on 360. No reason to get pissy about a multiplat that will be best on PC Cow.
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#95 jlh47
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]gears is an year old game if you didnt know and UT3 will be on xbox 360 as wellBlinblingthing

That Isn't the point. The point is PS3 has otdone X360.

And to the other Guy. GeOW outscored Halo 3

ut3 is coming to the 360 so it's still tied. btw wasn't the ps3 supposed to pass the 360 up a long time ago?

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#96 jlh47
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PS3 version is going to be so far superior to the X360 version. We get it first, who knows when X360 will get it and if they will since Epic hates MS. Supporting mods alone makes the PS3 version 10x better. EmperorSupreme

is that why they made gears exclusive?

the game ain't coming to the 360 unless u give me a damm link ... ...

well its gonna be great on the ps3 ..

i don't see any "pc" mentioning in the article

weiliang_1988

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/unrealtournament2007/index.html?tag=result;title;2

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#97 NFJSupreme
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the 360 is also gears so whats your point. Its like lemmings claiming COD4 ownage when Cows and hermits get to play it too.
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#98 jlh47
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]I would file this under the same category as Oblivion looking better on PS3. If a developer has an extra year to work on the engine they will no doubt make improvements on it and further optimise it. The real ownage will come if UT3 on PS3 looks better then on 360 and if Mass Effect does not look better then the console versions of UT3.Blinblingthing

If a 2008 game with same engine doesn't look better than a 2006 game I would think there was cause for concern.

However, why is this ownage? UT3 is also on 360.

I see your first statement doesn't account for a change in platforms? SO if UT3 came to wii with Unreal Engine should it look better than GeOW also? Nah your not gonna say that are you?

No one was arguing Exclusivity.

The real topic is PS3 outdoing what X360's GeOW did.

one year ago...

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#99 NFJSupreme
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also epic has said UT3 for 360 looks just like UT3 for PS3. I take their word for it. Just like IW saying that COD4 will be the same on 360 and PS3. Only stupid fanboys think otherwise. UT3 should look better than gears its running on an updated UE3. I don't get what you are trying to prove.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

the game ain't coming to the 360 unless u give me a damm link ... ...

well its gonna be great on the ps3 ..

i don't see any "pc" mentioning in the article

weiliang_1988

Are you saying this won't be on the PC? Besides, as always the PC>consoles.

thats totall bullsh*t !?

i don't even need to install the game to play it.

So?