err did Sony just pay Gamespot large sums of cash for those GOTY nomine choices?

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#1 Sexytime-
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Granted I haven't been on these forums for a while but I don't see why Gamespot nominated MGS4 and didn't nominate Gears for GOTY. Either the gstop employee who was responsible for GOTY nominations was Japanese or his 360 had a RROD issue and he's po'ed at Msoft? since when did PS3 exclusives get into GOTY nominations without any 360 exclusives up there.

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#2 -Master_St3ve-
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When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up.
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#3 deactivated-5f2174cc8f575
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You know something is wrong when Resistance 2 isn't nominated for best competitive game. :|
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#4 shadow_hosi
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When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. -Master_St3ve-
yep, all the blind fanboys vote without playing crysis
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#5 CreepyBacon
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People stopped actually listening to gamespot, there reviews and there opinions around 2 years ago. The only ones that cling to it now are fanboys who happen to have the site swinging in their favour, they quickly jump ship again a month later when it swings the other way.

In other words: Don't let it bother you, there opinion is about as valid as a 5 year old to the mass gaming world outside of SW.

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#6 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. shadow_hosi
yep, all the blind fanboys vote without playing crysis

You don't even need to play it to see it's leaps and bounds ahead of MGS4 and it's muddy textures and plastic characters
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#7 -Master_St3ve-
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People stopped actually listening to gamespot, there reviews and there opinions around 2 years ago. The only ones that cling to it now are fanboys who happen to have the site swinging in their favour, they quickly jump ship again a month later when it swings the other way.

In other words: Don't let it bother you, there opinion is about as valid as a 5 year old to the mass gaming world outside of SW.

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What bothers me is whatever they do so many people take it as fact. I just can't stand ignorance.

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#8 foreverflame
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Yeah they did no Gears of war 2 nominations C'mon.

It's like shafting heath ledger for Best supporting actor for the dark knight.

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#9 Toriko42
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When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. -Master_St3ve-
I agree And the fact that Gears of War 2 was not nominated is even worse.
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#11 user_nat
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Alot of the awards, not just the Sony related ones, seemed a lil odd to me. Then again, I thought the same thing last year.
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#12 one_on_one
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People shouldn't assume just yet, you should wait until they announce MGS4 as GOTY and then that's when you start assuming they paid big bucks.

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#13 foreverflame
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What bothers me is all the people who are actually bothered by this.

I mean seriously, there is nothing more serious going on in your life worth caring about?

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the holidays but who cares about that..

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#14 foreverflame
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the only thing really bothering(not really) is burnout pardaise and NHL 09 getting nominated!
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#15 MetroidPrimePwn
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You know, with all the people raving about how MGS4 is "guaranteed" GOTY this year, I think NHL 09 should win just for the lols.
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#16 Ragashahs
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then why was MGS4 not nominated for best origional music? how this game dones't even get nominated for that award is mind boggiling
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#17 -Master_St3ve-
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You know, with all the people raving about how MGS4 is "guaranteed" GOTY this year, I think NHL 09 should win just for the lols.MetroidPrimePwn
lol ya then we would know GS is just screwing with us.
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#18 Jekken6
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When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. -Master_St3ve-
Crysis won last year
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#19 Nerd_Man
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That is EXACTLY what Sony is doing...:|

Seriously, stop making conspiracy theories now. Gamespot has chosen MGS4 over your game. Does it mean your game sucks? No. Get over it. This is getting worse than all the fanboy rants last year after rewarding Super Mario Galaxy GOTY.

The graphics category may seem odd, but Gamespot clearly stated their reasons for why they chose MGS4 over the other games.
Lastly, I don't think Sony or any company had to pay anyone to to boost up MGS4's reputation. As some of you may have already noticed, much of the GS members here already think MGS4 is the best game of the year, and one of the greatest games in years. Yet we don't get paid squat for our opinions. Just accept it already, MGS4 is a tough competitor, and it isn't there because undertable briberies were made. People do actually like the game. Does that make it the greatest game ever? That's up to you to decide. Just quit the whining and enjoy the games for a change.

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#20 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. Jekken6
Crysis won last year

and Crysis warhead has even better graphics.

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#21 mr_mozilla
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Nah, they're just incompetent.
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#22 DAZZER7
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That is EXACTLY what Sony is doing...:|

Seriously, stop making conspiracy theories now. Gamespot has chosen MGS4 over your game. Does it mean your game sucks? No. Get over it. This is getting worse than all the fanboy rants last year after rewarding Super Mario Galaxy GOTY.

The graphics category may seem odd, but Gamespot clearly stated their reasons for why they chose MGS4 over the other games.
Lastly, I don't think Sony or any company had to pay anyone to to boost up MGS4's reputation. As some of you may have already noticed, much of the GS members here already think MGS4 is the best game of the year, and one of the greatest games in years. Yet we don't get paid squat for our opinions. Just accept it already, MGS4 is a tough competitor, and it isn't there because undertable briberies were made. People do actually like the game. Does that make it the greatest game ever? That's up to you to decide. Just quit the whining and enjoy the games for a change.

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Firstly, this is sytem wars, this is precisely the place to discuss the nominations and awards for GOTY and to question/ discuss possible reasons. People are also allowed to suggest reasons they believe a game got a particular award, ok?

Gamespot did NOT clearly state their reasons why it gave MGS4 Best Technical Graphics over Crysis Warhead. They kinda skimmed over the top. There is no way on earth it has better technical graphics than crysis.

Gamespot said something about expressions on faces etc...

sorry but that is ANIMATION not graphics. If there was an award for best animation then sure, why not but this isn't. In every other 'technical' graphical aspect, Crysis Warhead surely wins. Think about textures, bump/normal maps, lighting, poly-count, DX10 features, water effects, shadows, volumetric atmospheric....Crysis Wins!

Surely MGS4 should win Artistic Graphics, no?

But gamespot says so lol, must be true.

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#23 SpinoRaptor24
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Meh. I stopped caring about GOTY awards years ago. No matter what game gets the GOTY award, you'll always have fanboys fighting.
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#24 EliteKitteh
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If that were true, wouldn't LBP be nominated? :?
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#25 unknown37
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Sony didnt pay off GS, they just had the best overall games this year, get over it
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#26 Toriko42
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Sony didnt pay off GS, they just had the best overall games this year, get over itunknown37
Eh? You honestly believe MGS4 beats Warhead in technical graphics?
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#27 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="unknown37"]Sony didnt pay off GS, they just had the best overall games this year, get over itToriko42
Eh? You honestly believe MGS4 beats Warhead in technical graphics?

it actually bothers you? this is why system wars needs to divide by zero....
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#28 unknown37
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I said nothing about MGS4 looking better than Crysis, of course mgs4 looks worse
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#29 DAZZER7
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I said nothing about MGS4 looking better than Crysis, of course mgs4 looks worseunknown37

But this is an internet forum that discusses video games and this board specifically focusses on comparing systems. Even more the discussion is on the GOTY nominations...

..were you expecting something else? lol

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#30 Foamybrian
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While there were a couple of nominations that I didn't agree with; particularly on the same issue with Warhead not winning best technical. Throwing conspiracy theories around is a bit over the top and sadly somewhat predictable. The instant I saw MGS4 winning multiple "best of", I had a feeling someone was going to pull the pay-off by ______ card.

Frankly, Warhead should have been a no-brainer; MGS4 looks good for a PS3 game, but on par with Warhead? Even the first unmodded Crysis puts MGS4 to shame.

I'll just give Gamespot the benefit of the doubt since I don't know what their criterias are in regards to best technical. There may be certain factors that are accounted for when considering multi-platform nominations and who knows what "technical" is characterized as.

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#31 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="unknown37"]Sony didnt pay off GS, they just had the best overall games this year, get over itToriko42
Eh? You honestly believe MGS4 beats Warhead in technical graphics?

That's the only award MGS4 shouldn't have won from the entire list, including awards not given out yet.
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#32 Nerd_Man
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

That is EXACTLY what Sony is doing...:|

Seriously, stop making conspiracy theories now. Gamespot has chosen MGS4 over your game. Does it mean your game sucks? No. Get over it. This is getting worse than all the fanboy rants last year after rewarding Super Mario Galaxy GOTY.

The graphics category may seem odd, but Gamespot clearly stated their reasons for why they chose MGS4 over the other games.
Lastly, I don't think Sony or any company had to pay anyone to to boost up MGS4's reputation. As some of you may have already noticed, much of the GS members here already think MGS4 is the best game of the year, and one of the greatest games in years. Yet we don't get paid squat for our opinions. Just accept it already, MGS4 is a tough competitor, and it isn't there because undertable briberies were made. People do actually like the game. Does that make it the greatest game ever? That's up to you to decide. Just quit the whining and enjoy the games for a change.

DAZZER7

Firstly, this is sytem wars, this is precisely the place to discuss the nominations and awards for GOTY and to question/ discuss possible reasons. People are also allowed to suggest reasons they believe a game got a particular award, ok?

You are exactly right. This is SW, and we have our right to express our thoughts over these games. At least your post was more constructive than others with valid reasons why you think otherwise. It's just the fact that many people blindly cry foul over the game just because their games didn't win over it, and that there was supposedly undertable bribery taking place. Really, that's just getting silly. If people think Crysis has better graphics, then so be it. Gamespot chose MGS4 over it. Enjoy your games and have a nice life.

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#33 user_nat
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Come to think of it.. another award which made no sense.. Braid winning best licensed music.
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#34 DAZZER7
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While there were a couple of nominations that I didn't agree with; particularly on the same issue with Warhead not winning best technical. Throwing conspiracy theories around is a bit over the top and sadly somewhat predictable. The instant I saw MGS4 winning multiple "best of", I had a feeling someone was going to pull the pay-off by ______ card.

Frankly, Warhead should have been a no-brainer; MGS4 looks good for a PS3 game, but on par with Warhead? Even the first unmodded Crysis puts MGS4 to shame.

I'll just give Gamespot the benefit of the doubt since I don't know what their criterias are in regards to best technical. There may be certain factors that are accounted for when considering multi-platform nominations and who knows what "technical" is characterized as.

Foamybrian

You do know that companies like Sony and MS often endorse and back websites, journalists who review a given game. It's common practice in the industry to try and sway favourable reviews.

Like others have said though, no one would pay such a suggestion any attention until MGS4 beats a game like Crysis Warhead in graphics.

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#35 Sword-Demon
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people whine about mgs4 beating crysis in graphics, when they dont understand what they mean by technical... do you think they would put in the word technical if they didnt mean anything by it? no.. if it was a straight up graphics competition, it would have been called "best graphics", not "best graphics, technical"

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#36 RocKtheCasbaH
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TBH I'm not sure where a lot of their nomination came from. I think they had to choose so many sports games, so many shooters, so many of another one etc. and missed the point. I couldn't vote for a lot of the games I wanted to as they weren't even listed. It makes you wonder what the readers choice GotY award is worth when it's basically all down to the limited choice they give us.
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#37 themyth01
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Well it seems the new gamespot is very Sony oriented, they sure love their ps3. Well gamespot has been irrelevant in their views for quite a while now after all the things that have come to light.
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#38 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]When MGS 4 wins best technical graphics over Crysis then you know somethings up. cuddlesofwar
yep, all the blind fanboys vote without playing crysis

You don't even need to play it to see it's leaps and bounds ahead of MGS4 and it's muddy textures and plastic characters

Crysis has lots of muddy environmental textures.

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#39 cuddlesofwar
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Gamespot said something about expressions on faces etc.... DAZZER7
I think Mass Effect beats it in that department to be honest ... I'm yet to see a game with better faces, or facial animation then ME.
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#40 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] yep, all the blind fanboys vote without playing crysisswazidoughman

You don't even need to play it to see it's leaps and bounds ahead of MGS4 and it's muddy textures and plastic characters

Crysis has lots of muddy environmental textures.

Open world game with 10 muddy background textures VS Linear game with 100 muddy textures ... yeah. that's the same.
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#41 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] yep, all the blind fanboys vote without playing crysisswazidoughman

You don't even need to play it to see it's leaps and bounds ahead of MGS4 and it's muddy textures and plastic characters

Crysis has lots of muddy environmental textures.

Crysis has very high res textures even throughout the environment. Which game are you thinking of lol

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#42 ultralesus
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Silience!! I kill you!

The O Mighty GS has spoken, do not question! Free thought is all a lie.

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#43 Floppy_Jim
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Sony definately bribed Cowspot, it's not like the PS3 actually had a good year.
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#44 cuddlesofwar
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Sony definately bribed Cowspot, it's not like the PS3 actually had a good year.Floppy_Jim
Meh, it's all opinion. Nothing this year interested me from the PS3(Bar MGS4), and little from the Xbox was any better. 2009 looks to be a great year for the PS3, not too much from the Xbox to talk about though
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#45 McdonaIdsGuy
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Well if a corridor game which runs below 720p with crappy textures and nothing out of this world takes the cake for technical achievement.. that tells you something.
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#46 BoloTheGreat
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I think GS has just let their opinion get the better of them, They are obviously all MGS fanboys. Well thats their preference i suppose but it shouldn't colour every judement, those of us who aint MGS crazy (which is most of us) are left wondering WTF they were thinking.
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#47 CreepyBacon
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Sony definately bribed Cowspot, it's not like the PS3 actually had a good year.Floppy_Jim

It didn't produce crysis graphics, do explain the technical graphics award with a serious face.

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#48 II_Seraphim_II
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Here is my theory on the graphics award, I think it takes into consideration the platform. So for instance, as I said in another topic, if SotC was made this year and it was in the running, it would probably win because of what they were able to do with the PS2. It was a great technical achievement as opposed to getting Gears2 or MGS4 graphics on the more powerful PS3. Just a thought :P...and this has gotta be the first time I heard this place called Cowspot :lol: And before you start flaming, I actually voted for Crysis:Warhead.
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Here is my theory on the graphics award, I think it takes into consideration the platform. So for instance, as I said in another topic, if SotC was made this year and it was in the running, it would probably win because of what they were able to do with the PS2. It was a great technical achievement as opposed to getting Gears2 or MGS4 graphics on the more powerful PS3. Just a thought :P...and this has gotta be the first time I heard this place called Cowspot :lol: And before you start flaming, I actually voted for Crysis:Warhead.II_Seraphim_II
MGS4 isn't even the best looking game on the PS3, and it's poorly executed with all the installs.
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#50 htotheo
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The technical graphic award is jsut illogical and makes no sense because it says technical graphics and not artistic. It is actually FACT that crysis warhead is technically better and that MGS4 is worse. Go figure.