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[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="Filonus"]You're in the minority these days. Even Kojima said to his developers "look to the west for originality". Even he admits that Japanese developers have been riding the same train for far too long.meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
I'd take Team ICo, Square enix, Konami, Level 5 Sega
over practically every Western developer (par bioware)
If i look back my favourite game experiences have come from Japanese developers.
Shenmue, Final fantasy metal gear solid, Shadow of the collosus , Dark cloud, Phantasy star online Resident evil Onimusha, Zone of the enders, Shadow of memories, Project justice, Soul calibur
i know some of the companies aren't all making big ps3 exclusives (resi 5 multi), but my favourite among them are.
they're create far more challenging and unique universes imo.
Filonus
No nothat applies FAR more with western developers.
when was the last time a western developer made a game like Shadow of collosus? or shadowof memories? or shenmue?
the thing i find really funny about western developers and reviewers is the arrogance you get(molyneux); they'll deride japanese games but won't look at the weak and flimsy elements to the games they're making
how many bloody FPS' are being made? with thoseannoying as hell cinematic trailers with the dumb Hollywood voicehow many tolkien-esque mmorpgs are there, and probably being made ?
and dude you can't prove im in the minority. Even i was the majority aren't always right. History has proven this many many many times.
Games i forgot to add to my list JEt set radio and killer 7,
yeah CAll of duty 3 and Guild wars are more orginal and innovative than those games :roll:
western developers are like hollywood. You'll get the odd good indie film which is interesting and challenging, but most of it's predictable as and formulaic as hell
um Itagaki is arrogant. so is Sakaguchi to a degree. Kojima and Miyamoto(2 of japans biggest oh by the way) big egos.[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Resident Evil 5, Saints Row 2, Condemned 2, Grand Theft Auto 4, Banjo 3, Alan Wake.benjaminbuckner
the last remnant, too human, cryon , mistwalker mmorpg, mass effect 2 and 3, unreal 3, infinite undiscovary, fable 2, halo wars.
mistwalker are not doing an MMORPG...
[QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="Filonus"]You're in the minority these days. Even Kojima said to his developers "look to the west for originality". Even he admits that Japanese developers have been riding the same train for far too long.meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
I'd take Team ICo, Square enix, Konami, Level 5 Sega
over practically every Western developer (par bioware)
If i look back my favourite game experiences have come from Japanese developers.
Shenmue, Final fantasy metal gear solid, Shadow of the collosus , Dark cloud, Phantasy star online Resident evil Onimusha, Zone of the enders, Shadow of memories, Project justice, Soul calibur
i know some of the companies aren't all making big ps3 exclusives (resi 5 multi), but my favourite among them are.
they're create far more challenging and unique universes imo.
jg4xchamp
No nothat applies FAR more with western developers.
when was the last time a western developer made a game like Shadow of collosus? or shadowof memories? or shenmue?
the thing i find really funny about western developers and reviewers is the arrogance you get(molyneux); they'll deride japanese games but won't look at the weak and flimsy elements to the games they're making
how many bloody FPS' are being made? with thoseannoying as hell cinematic trailers with the dumb Hollywood voicehow many tolkien-esque mmorpgs are there, and probably being made ?
and dude you can't prove im in the minority. Even i was the majority aren't always right. History has proven this many many many times.
Games i forgot to add to my list JEt set radio and killer 7,
yeah CAll of duty 3 and Guild wars are more orginal and innovative than those games :roll:
western developers are like hollywood. You'll get the odd good indie film which is interesting and challenging, but most of it's predictable as and formulaic as hell
um Itagaki is arrogant. so is Sakaguchi to a degree. Kojima and Miyamoto(2 of japans biggest oh by the way) big egos.i said Game devs and Reviewers. lol David jaffe isn't humble, but i don't care about that.
I'm not saying there are NO western devs that have made Awesome games but i'm sorry there's faaaaaaaaaaar more originality coming from the east
it's not like they are't any original games(grim fandango, Monkey island)there are games out there, but they're mostly on PCs or get completelyignored"beyond good and evil"
Metronome(western developer) is a game that'll probably never see the light of day because Western publishers are too afraid of taking risks on something "weird" ...That's the problem bioshock faced. Luckily for us the game made it.
Shenmue, Final fantasy metal gear solid, Shadow of the collosus , Dark cloud, Phantasy star online Resident evil Onimusha, Zone of the enders, Shadow of memories, Project justice, Soul calibur
for every game like Heavy rain (western developer) that gets made 10 FPS's and 10 tolkien-esquerpgsare made. Japan can be just as bad with the number of generic anime rpgs that get made, but what annoys me is the attitude of certain reviewers who act like western developers aren't as bad.
we dont have a Shadow of collousus, a standout beat-em up (soul calibur), a zone of the enders?a shenmue a Jet set radiO. an Okami, a legend of zelda, Viwetiful Joe
what impresses me aboutjapan is the sheer diversity of what's being produced.
it's like the difference betweenthe countlessDreamwork and pixar cgi films about bloody animals going on heart-warming adventuresand Spirited Away or princess monoke. Japanese games tend to have a lot more character and colour to them, and generally tend to be more orginial. Viewtiful joe, Okami, Jet set Radio? Shadow of memories (or destiny for the US)
Dark sector (Western developed"started off as a Bizzarre futurist espionage action game set in space.
But then (the devs themselves said this) they completely overhauled the entire thing, borrowedthe the gears of war/resi 4
gameplay mechanic, and completely ruined the story and made it generic as hell. Check out a really earlytrailer for that game. It looked soawesome. You know why they changed? because they think it'll appeal to more people....ugh the game was too "weird" so they put it in the generic blender
I can't fit the 2007/2008 PS3 list in one post. HERE's a link to the updated list.
Ps3 has one hell of a lineup.
Why is it that everyone thinks that MS is gloing to close up shop after Halo 3? There are plenty of titles coming after the release of Halo 3.....
Mass Effect, PGR 4, Too Human, Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Convictions, Banjo Threeie, Gears of War 2, Halo Wars, Huxley....I could go on and on here. There will also be tons of great multiplats. The 360's future is just fine!
[QUOTE="ED898AA"]What's it going to be like after Halo 3?
Or going into 2008?
And even more what's after MGS4 for the PS3?
justforlotr2004
Mass effect, Fable 2, Gears of war 2, Beautiful Katamari, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead or Alive 5, Too Human, Splinter cell: Conviction, Alan Wake, Left 4 Dead, Halo Wars.
oh just noticed you said PS3 also, guess others have already gave a list so doesnt matter.
Thi sman's list pretty much echoes mine. There's always a future if someone looks hard enough.
meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
Filonus
That's cool because the western market is, by far, the largest market.
In fact, Japan is the 3rd largest market :)
[QUOTE="Filonus"]meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
LosDaddie
That's cool because the western market is, by far, the largest market.
In fact, Japan is the 3rd largest market :)
i care because?
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Filonus"]meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
Filonus
That's cool because the western market is, by far, the largest market.
In fact, Japan is the 3rd largest market :)
i care because?
I was just proving what the other guy said: YOu're in the minority :)
[QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Filonus"]meh nothing but mostly western games.
That's what i personally don't like as much about the 360. the fact that it's "biggest" games are western.
LosDaddie
That's cool because the western market is, by far, the largest market.
In fact, Japan is the 3rd largest market :)
i care because?
I was just proving what the other guy said: YOu're in the minority :)
i care because?
you'd defend cow s*** if it was popular ?
I guess Park chan wook and Alfonso Curaon'sfilms suck because they're not as popular as Steven speilberg?
i'm talking about quality Mr proud american.
And dude not all western games sell Big.
lol you say "You're in the minority" like i'm going to be offended.. is that an insult where you're from LOL
nothing for a while i hope, so i get some time too play through this pile of games thats building up.
i'm talking about quality Mr proud american. Filonus
You mean like GameSpot's Game of the Year, Gears of War? Or how about Oblivion?
Ah yes, let's go with that quality, originalgame known as Lair.
And dude not all western games sell Big. Filonus
And neither does every eastern game. Do you have a point?:lol:
lol you say "You're in the minority" like i'm going to be offended.. is that an insult where you're from LOL
Filonus
I'm just proving the east doesn't dictate the market anymore:D
GODDAMN ORANGE GODDAMN BOX!!!mlisen
lol agreed. I've always wanted to play Half-life 2 and now I finally get to play it together with 4 other titles that all costs the same as ONE game! Simply awesome :D
[QUOTE="Filonus"]i'm talking about quality Mr proud american. LosDaddie
You mean like GameSpot's Game of the Year, Gears of War? Or how about Oblivion?
Ah yes, let's go with that quality, originalgame known as Lair.
And dude not all western games sell Big. Filonus
And neither does every eastern game. Do you have a point?:lol:
lol you say "You're in the minority" like i'm going to be offended.. is that an insult where you're from LOL
Filonus
I'm just proving the east doesn't dictate the market anymore:D
When the hell did i say the east dictates the market mr capitalist? i was never bloody talking about money or sales i dont care about sales. Who the *** plays sales? If you wanna go there isn't the wii pretty much poised to completely outsell the 360? Does the DS have an american equivalent? no ? i thought so.
I said not all american games sell big because you brought in that irrelevant crap about "look At the BBigggest Markets look!!!"
good job ignoring most of what i'm saying. My main point on i think the 6th page was about Orignality. You're bringing up largest markets, and sales, and GOTY (the ****). do you actually follow that crap. I dont need GS's seal of approval to like a game.
Bringing up Game of the year as proof of a game's quality is ridiculously stupid. I've seen a lot of users on this site say gears is overrated (yes even lemmings) and thatother games should have won.
Gears of the war gets cussed by Lemmings mostly for being 4-6 hour game SP.
not EVERYONe likes oblivion some feel that theSP is far too shallow,and the story just sucks.
My point earlier on was on orinality and diversity, Games like shadow of collousus, jet set radio, viewtiful joe, OKami, Legend of zelda, Final fantasy, Metal gear solid, Shadow of memories, zone of the enders, Shenmue,
there's tons more colour and character and overall diversity coming out of japan
[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]]I can't fit the 2007/2008 PS3 list in one post. HERE's a link to the updated list.
Ps3 has one hell of a lineup.
Filonus
awesome gif
Made it myself, thank you very much.
[QUOTE="ED898AA"]What's it going to be like after Halo 3?
Or going into 2008?
And even more what's after MGS4 for the PS3?
AskForDetails
lol whats after MGS4???... LOLZ try
FFXIII
FFXIII VERSUS
KILLZONE 2
LITTLEBIGPLANET
HEAVY RAIN
AND MORE
no need to waste time and list some amazing titles, like KH3, and team ICO and stuff cant wait...
as for after halo 3... umm GeOW 2...Fable 2...alan wake...thats it... i only include exclusives,soo ya....
So basically PS3 owners are screwed
Who the *** plays sales? If you wanna go there isn't the wii pretty much poised to completely outsell the 360? Does the DS have an american equivalent? no ? i thought so. Filonus
And after all that, you still missed the point....tsk...tsk
Do you know where the Wii & DS have sold the most?
I said not all american games sellbig because youbrought inthatirrelevant crap about "look At the BBigggest Markets look!!!" Filonus
So you make an irrelevant statement to counter my supposedly irrelevant statement? Brilliant!
Bringing up Game of the year as proof of a game's quality is ridiculously stupid. I've seen a lot of users on this site say the game is overrated (yes even lemmings) and other games should have won. Filonus
Don't kid yourself. Gears of Warwinning GotY was the ultimate ownage here at GameSpot.:)
Gears of the war gets cussed by Lemmings mostly for being 4-6 hour game. SAme can be applied to Oblivion. Filonus
Gears can't be finished in 6hrs nor can Oblivion. And Gears still won GotY regardless of it's length.:D
My point earlier on was on orinality and diversity, Games like shadow of collousus, jet set radio, viewtiful joe, OKami, Legend of zelda, Final fantasy, Metal gear solid, Shadow of memories, zone of the enders, Shenmue,there's tons morecolour and charactercoming out of japan
Filonus
YOu mention FF &MGS when discussing original games?? :lol:@ you!! :lol: :lol:
Just quit now while you're ahead!
[QUOTE="Filonus"]Who the *** plays sales? If you wanna go there isn't the wii pretty much poised to completely outsell the 360? Does the DS have an american equivalent? no ? i thought so. LosDaddie
And after all that, you still missed the point....tsk...tsk
Do you know where the Wii & DS have sold the most?
I said not all american games sellbig because youbrought inthatirrelevant crap about "look At the BBigggest Markets look!!!" Filonus
So you make an irrelevant statement to counter my supposedly irrelevant statement? Brilliant!
Bringing up Game of the year as proof of a game's quality is ridiculously stupid. I've seen a lot of users on this site say the game is overrated (yes even lemmings) and other games should have won. Filonus
Don't kid yourself. Gears of Warwinning GotY was the ultimate ownage here at GameSpot.:)
Gears of the war gets cussed by Lemmings mostly for being 4-6 hour game. SAme can be applied to Oblivion. Filonus
Gears can't be finished in 6hrs nor can Oblivion. And Gears still won GotY regardless of it's length.:D
My point earlier on was on orinality and diversity, Games like shadow of collousus, jet set radio, viewtiful joe, OKami, Legend of zelda, Final fantasy, Metal gear solid, Shadow of memories, zone of the enders, Shenmue,there's tons morecolour and charactercoming out of japan
Filonus
YOu mention FF &MGS when discussing original games?? :lol:@ you!! :lol: :lol:
Just quit now while you're ahead!
man..you actually think what you typing is contradicting what i'm saying?
I edited the thing on oblivion,after you quoted me, that was an error
"gears winning GOTY was the ultimate ownage"
:roll: you'll never learn will you. I asked you a question before you didnt answer. Would you defend S*** if it was popular?
you think saying crap like that actually means anything?
You're "counter" to my point on the DS and wii was pathetic.
pokemon sells more than halo it doesn't matter where its selling, or does it mr proud american?
FFis faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more orginal than Oblivion and Countless other tolkien inspired WRPG crap. some of The most original Rpgs from the west are usually sci-fi ones usually from bioware.
Leave mgs alone before you embarras yourself
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Filonus"]i'm talking about quality Mr proud american. Filonus
You mean like GameSpot's Game of the Year, Gears of War? Or how about Oblivion?
Ah yes, let's go with that quality, originalgame known as Lair.
And dude not all western games sell Big. Filonus
And neither does every eastern game. Do you have a point?:lol:
lol you say "You're in the minority" like i'm going to be offended.. is that an insult where you're from LOL
Filonus
I'm just proving the east doesn't dictate the market anymore:D
When the hell did i say the east dictates the market mr capitalist? i was never bloody talking about money or sales i dont care about sales. Who the *** plays sales? If you wanna go there isn't the wii pretty much poised to completely outsell the 360? Does the DS have an american equivalent? no ? i thought so.
I said not all american games sell big because you brought in that irrelevant crap about "look At the BBigggest Markets look!!!"
good job ignoring most of what i'm saying. My main point on i think the 6th page was about Orignality. You're bringing up largest markets, and sales, and GOTY (the ****). do you actually follow that crap. I dont need GS's seal of approval to like a game.
Bringing up Game of the year as proof of a game's quality is ridiculously stupid. I've seen a lot of users on this site say gears is overrated (yes even lemmings) and thatother games should have won.
Gears of the war gets cussed by Lemmings mostly for being 4-6 hour game SP.
not EVERYONe likes oblivion some feel that theSP is far too shallow,and the story just sucks.
My point earlier on was on orinality and diversity, Games like shadow of collousus, jet set radio, viewtiful joe, OKami, Legend of zelda, Final fantasy, Metal gear solid, Shadow of memories, zone of the enders, Shenmue,
there's tons more colour and character and overall diversity coming out of japan
I agree.Most Americans are arrogant and think that everything that comes out of America is gold and I'm saying this as an American myself.
Bungie has a new IP coming after HALO3. It should be HUUGGGEEE!
JiveT
sweet and bungie is owned by microsoft so, yay! great pc or 360 game, i hope a great pc title so i can use my quad core power!!!!
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