Euro Charts: Spain, Italy and Germany - ruled by Sony and Nintendo

Spain, week ended May 27

1. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Platinum (PS2)
2. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (PS2)
3. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
4. God of War II (PS2)
5. Spider-Man 3 (PS2)
6. Wii Play (Wii)
7. Mario Strikers Charged Football (Wii)
8. Pokemon Ranger (DS)
9. Buzz! The Mega Quiz (PS2)
10. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (PSP)

Italy, week ended May 27

1. Spider-Man 3 (PS2)
2. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (PS2)
3. God of War II (PS2)
4. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (PS2)
5. FIFA 07 Special Price (PS2)
6. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
7. Spider- Man 3 (PS3)
8. Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (PS2)
9. Animal Crossing Wild World (DS)
10. SBK 07: Superbike World Championship (PS2)

Germany, week ended May 20

1. Mario Strikers Charged Football (Wii)
2. SingStar Pop Hits (PS2)
3. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
4. Harvest Moon (DS)
5. Diddy Kong Racing (DS)
6. Two Worlds (PC)
7. World of Warcraft (PC)
8. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (PC)
9. Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Platinum (PS2)
10. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)

All charts supplied by Media Control GfK International

They're still on the PS2?! MOVE ON!Eponique

Hmm....... strange look into their game consumptionGamertag-TFTW

Italy's weirdest... 2 Spiderman 3s?! And one of them is for the PS3 O.o 

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]Hmm....... strange look into their game consumptionEponique

Italy's weirdest... 2 Spiderman 3s?! And one of them is for the PS3 O.o 

I don't really have much to say about game sales they dont necessarily reflect the essence of videogames a lot of the time (most of the time) Tells you very little about the people playing the videogames Well they must have seen Spiderman 3 right right?  Who knows

the essence of videogames

Gamertag-TFTW

Umm what? 

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]

the essence of videogames

cakeorrdeath

Umm what? 

What puts videogames ahead of most forms of entertainment and surely is not demonstrated a lot in the mainstream

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]

the essence of videogames

Gamertag-TFTW

Umm what?

What puts videogames ahead of most forms of entertainment and surely is not demonstrated a lot in the mainstream

Why are video games ahead of most forums of entertainment?

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]

the essence of videogames

cakeorrdeath

Umm what?

What puts videogames ahead of most forms of entertainment and surely is not demonstrated a lot in the mainstream

Why are video games ahead of most forums of entertainment?

Videogames are not a passive media unfortunately ideas (Now nearly game is boxed like shoes in genres) get hammered until they become passive and not even the form of a videogame can keep them like a Spiderman game which borrows probably everything from the past using computerized toolsets it is a shame - humanity lost a lot of the time in games... Miyamoto has talked a lot about the hidden and mysterious in the world and it clearly translates in the draw of videogames.

Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.hongkingkong

Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they don't have tase in games... :|

Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.hongkingkong

I am offended at that comment..spanish people do have taste in games, it like  me saying that American and Britian have no culture what so ever!!

keep it to yourself next time

Hehe jep ... american and british food, cars, clothes, not to mention their beer .... etc.etc. :)

Just kidding. Actually you have to consider that there are way less games sold in countries like Italy and Spain, than in GB or US.

So the charts arent that representativ. A single "good" TV commercials (or movie like you see with Spiderman) would be enough to raise the sales of a specific game by a few hundred (for example, thousands perhaps?)

... in consideration of less sold games total, this would make quite some difference in those charts.

Another point could be the total amount of games bought by one person ... could be much lower too...

Its the amount "n" you take into account that makes a chart really convincing.

And well, as i am german:

i have to say: "Whats wrong about CoD? :)

Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.hongkingkong

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.Lambo2468

By the looks of it, they can't afford it.

I'll send them a picture of me playing some next gen games, that should cheer them up

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.Neal_Gore

By the looks of it, they can't afford it.

I'll send them a picture of me playing some next gen games, that should cheer them up

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.Neal_Gore

By the looks of it, they can't afford it.

I'll send them a picture of me playing some next gen games, that should cheer them up

Yes Europe is very poor.... please send me some cookies :roll:

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.Lambo2468

By the looks of it, they can't afford it.

I'll send them a picture of me playing some next gen games, that should cheer them up

I think America(a country)bought more of them worthless Ps3s than all of Europe(which is a nation)

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Spanish have no taste in games, italians are always playing GEARS, there are other games out there...... and Germans play something decent like call of d- :|, actually never mind.Neal_Gore

By the looks of it, they can't afford it.

I'll send them a picture of me playing some next gen games, that should cheer them up

I think America(a country)bought more of them worthless Ps3s than all of Europe(which is a nation)

and Kreen i really dont appreciate your comment and either would loads of other europeans

I think America(a country)bought more of them worthless Ps3s than all of Europe(which is a nation)

Neal_Gore

A nation and a country are the same thing, and Europe is neither. 

you do know europe all together is still only the same size as america , and the PS3 hasnt been out all that long

Lambo2468

 Do you mean Population or landmass? Either way you are very very wrong

Pop Europe 725m

Pop America 300m

America as in all , not just the USA... , but yeah lol i miss counted a few countries

oh yeah i was talking about landmass

Europe is a nation , lol.

America as in all , not just the USA... , but yeah lol i miss counted a few countries

Lambo2468

That's only like another 30 million. 

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"]

America as in all , not just the USA... , but yeah lol i miss counted a few countries

cakeorrdeath

That's only like another 30 million. 

[QUOTE="Neal_Gore"]

I think America(a country)bought more of them worthless Ps3s than all of Europe(which is a nation)

cakeorrdeath

A nation and a country are the same thing, and Europe is neither.

No, they're not. A nation is a region with similar customs and heritage. A country is a sovereign region ruled by a single government. Arguably, there are only two nation-states (ones that are nations AND countries)- Japan and Hungary. But you're right about Europe being neither.

Anyway, the charts as a whole don't tell us much since we don't have any specific sales. Without those, it's hard to guess whether any of the consoles/games are doing well or just sold decently in a dry week.

you do know europe all together is still only the same size as america , and the PS3 hasnt been out all that long

and Kreean i really dont appreciate your comment and either would loads of other europeans

Lambo2468

This was sarcasm and by the way I am from Europe and live, work, sleep and play there.

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"]you do know europe all together is still only the same size as america , and the PS3 hasnt been out all that long

and Kreean i really dont appreciate your comment and either would loads of other europeans

Kreean

This was sarcasm and by the way I am from Europe and live, work, sleep and play there.

That was really, really abundantly clear, so don't worry ;)  .

Still I'm pretty impressed: most members here really know a lot about Europe (that's sarcasm too btw :lol: ) and on top of that I don't think the lists are odd at all.

I keep saying how diferent the rest of the world is when it comes to gaming, sony has a clear advantage outside america, hard to explain this to a lot of people in this forum cause most of the peolple on this board are american and I guess they just don´t believe me.Eddie-Vedder

But the advantage is clearly not showing this gen...last sales chart I saw had the 360 outselling ps3 in most parts of europe (however extreme or slight) as well as Australia. The only other place I see Sony winning is Japan, and even then sales are extremely weak for both systems, with the wii dominating. That is hurting sony more however, as they are expected to battle well in there home country. 

360 globally is doing much better then Xbox did, despite a $150 price disadvatage as the Xbox had a price drop within a year.

It's a low time in the year, I thin after this christmas/winter...we will see how the battle will end up looking like in the long run...and people have to start agreeing. This upcoming hoilday season is going to answer a lot of questions...

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]I keep saying how diferent the rest of the world is when it comes to gaming, sony has a clear advantage outside america, hard to explain this to a lot of people in this forum cause most of the peolple on this board are american and I guess they just don´t believe me.Innovazero2000

But the advantage is clearly not showing this gen...last sales chart I saw had the 360 outselling ps3 in most parts of europe (however extreme or slight) as well as Australia. The only other place I see Sony winning is Japan, and even then sales are extremely weak for both systems, with the wii dominating. That is hurting sony more however, as they are expected to battle well in there home country.

360 globally is doing much better then Xbox did, despite a $150 price disadvatage as the Xbox had a price drop within a year.

It's a low time in the year, I thin after this christmas/winter...we will see how the battle will end up looking like in the long run...and people have to start agreeing. This upcoming hoilday season is going to answer a lot of questions...

Interesting. Well, I know for a fact that Sony is really a respected brand in Europe. Sony equipment in general is considered to be quality equipment that won't break down on you. The Playstation brand is also very popular partially because it has been so well marketed: commercials, sponsoring the Champions League (major European soccer tournament) etc..

So isn't that the same across the ocean then? (serious question)

Well I don't know how the consoles perform in other EU countries but here is what I found from Germany.

Total sales (from launch till April 2007)
1. Xbox 360: 262.000 pcs. (Launch: December 2005)
2. Wii: 222.000 pcs. (Launch: December 2006)
3. PS3: 70.500 pcs. (Launch: March 2007)

Sales in April 2007
1. Wii: 20.000 pcs.
2. PS3: 16.000 pcs.
3. Xbox 360: 9.500 pcs.

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"]you do know europe all together is still only the same size as america , and the PS3 hasnt been out all that long

and Kreean i really dont appreciate your comment and either would loads of other europeans

Kreean

This was sarcasm and by the way I am from Europe and live, work, sleep and play there.

Well I don't know how the consoles perform in other EU countries but here is what I found from Germany.

Total sales (from launch till April 2007)
1. Xbox 360: 262.000 pcs. (Launch: December 2005)
2. Wii: 222.000 pcs. (Launch: December 2006)
3. PS3: 70.500 pcs. (Launch: March 2007)

Sales in April 2007
1. Wii: 20.000 pcs.
2. PS3: 16.000 pcs.
3. Xbox 360: 9.500 pcs.

Kreean

That's pretty interesting. Not sure how well it would extrapolate to other countries as Germany is a very PC focused market and quite different from Italy, France, Spain and the UK. (which are all pretty different from each other).

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]I keep saying how diferent the rest of the world is when it comes to gaming, sony has a clear advantage outside america, hard to explain this to a lot of people in this forum cause most of the peolple on this board are american and I guess they just don´t believe me.dirktu

But the advantage is clearly not showing this gen...last sales chart I saw had the 360 outselling ps3 in most parts of europe (however extreme or slight) as well as Australia. The only other place I see Sony winning is Japan, and even then sales are extremely weak for both systems, with the wii dominating. That is hurting sony more however, as they are expected to battle well in there home country.

360 globally is doing much better then Xbox did, despite a $150 price disadvatage as the Xbox had a price drop within a year.

It's a low time in the year, I thin after this christmas/winter...we will see how the battle will end up looking like in the long run...and people have to start agreeing. This upcoming hoilday season is going to answer a lot of questions...

Interesting. Well, I know for a fact that Sony is really a respected brand in Europe. Sony equipment in general is considered to be quality equipment that won't break down on you. The Playstation brand is also very popular partially because it has been so well marketed: commercials, sponsoring the Champions League (major European soccer tournament) etc..

So isn't that the same across the ocean then? (serious question)

Oh I have no doubt Sony is a VERY well liked brand in Europe. Camera's, TV's..you name it, I know europe loves Sony.

But I think if you combine the price, the negetive backlash the PS3 is getting, combined with the horrific delay in Europe...and as shown..outside of the hardcore audence that flocked it to, nobody is buying it. Thats what I mean when I say, and this goes for every single territory. After this holiday season, I think we will start to see the bigger picture. The ps2 is still doing very well, and I know Sony has to be happy about. That being said the next generation race started a year ago...and developers are shifting focus. The more MS and Nintendo pull away from the ps3...the mroe Sony has to be a little worried. It could even be the ps2 hurting Ps3 sales as well....but who knows.

But yes, generally a country that has long respected or accepted a brand, that is marketed well, that is traditionally brought over a time, generally is always favored.

I think America(a country)bought more of them worthless Ps3s than all of Europe(which is a nation)Neal_Gore

LMAO:lol:

That is sig worthy.

[QUOTE="dirktu"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]I keep saying how diferent the rest of the world is when it comes to gaming, sony has a clear advantage outside america, hard to explain this to a lot of people in this forum cause most of the peolple on this board are american and I guess they just don´t believe me.Innovazero2000

But the advantage is clearly not showing this gen...last sales chart I saw had the 360 outselling ps3 in most parts of europe (however extreme or slight) as well as Australia. The only other place I see Sony winning is Japan, and even then sales are extremely weak for both systems, with the wii dominating. That is hurting sony more however, as they are expected to battle well in there home country.

360 globally is doing much better then Xbox did, despite a $150 price disadvatage as the Xbox had a price drop within a year.

It's a low time in the year, I thin after this christmas/winter...we will see how the battle will end up looking like in the long run...and people have to start agreeing. This upcoming hoilday season is going to answer a lot of questions...

Interesting. Well, I know for a fact that Sony is really a respected brand in Europe. Sony equipment in general is considered to be quality equipment that won't break down on you. The Playstation brand is also very popular partially because it has been so well marketed: commercials, sponsoring the Champions League (major European soccer tournament) etc..

So isn't that the same across the ocean then? (serious question)

Oh I have no doubt Sony is a VERY well liked brand in Europe. Camera's, TV's..you name it, I know europe loves Sony.

But I think if you combine the price, the negetive backlash the PS3 is getting, combined with the horrific delay in Europe...and as shown..outside of the hardcore audence that flocked it to, nobody is buying it. Thats what I mean when I say, and this goes for every single territory. After this holiday season, I think we will start to see the bigger picture.

But yes, generally a country that has long respected or accepted a brand, that is marketed well, that is traditionally brought over a time, generally is always favored.

Well, actually I really was curious about that so-called "advantage" Sony has in Europe. Maybe there is.. I don't know. But my gut feeling would be the same as yours; altered PS3, delay, not many games yet etc.

I know that some American friends of my were amazed when they saw all the small European and Japanese cars in Europe and they told me they didn't have them in the U.S.A. because 'they weren't safe enough' (*uch* *uch* *yeah right*). So there could be a slight possibility that something similar is going on with the Sony brand when compared to the situation in Europe. 

That's pretty interesting. Not sure how well it would extrapolate to other countries as Germany is a very PC focused market and quite different from Italy, France, Spain and the UK. (which are all pretty different from each other).

cakeorrdeath

Yes, Germany is "PC-Land", but the sales of Germany don't show the overall picture. Due to Europe non homogenic nature it is very hard to say which consoles does the best. But at the moment my nearest guess is that the Wii and the PS2 are the hottest consoles in Europe.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

That's pretty interesting. Not sure how well it would extrapolate to other countries as Germany is a very PC focused market and quite different from Italy, France, Spain and the UK. (which are all pretty different from each other).

Kreean

Yes, Germany is "PC-Land", but the sales of Germany don't show the overall picture. Due to Europe non homogenic nature it is very hard to say which consoles does the best. But at the moment my nearest guess is that the Wii and the PS2 are the hottest consoles in Europe.

I think the games charts support that. The lack of HD penetration in Europe I think will really hinder the 360 and PS3s sales this gen for a while to come.

just goes to show how the long the life will be for the ps3.e20Dylan

 Another pointless response in this thread. How?