Eurogamer- 9/10 Heavy Rain review.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No, if it is not up to par by the reviewers standards it will be marked down. Which I thought was kind of obvious :? I don't review the games.

"That's called ignorance towards other people, and the world."

^^ Erm... What is?

BlindfireMcgee

What are you referring to when you reference "Reviewer's standards"? Are you insinuating that majority reviewers will be listening to the game in English? Once again, that is displaying absurd ignorance as I myself will play through the game more than once in other languages than English.

I'm not insinuating that at all. Undoubtedly though, like with any other language, there will be a lot of English reviewers. If the English VA were no good, for any number of possible reasons (just in case you misunderstand, I am not insinuating it will be no good, this is a hypothetical), then they would no doubt mark it down.

You're reading to far between the lines, and drawing conclusions about what I have said that seemingly hold no footing in reality. You basically misunderstood everything.

I'm not insinuating that at all. Undoubtedly though, like with any other language, there will be a lot of English reviewers. If the English VA were no good, for any number of possible reasons (just in case you misunderstand, I am not insinuating it will be no good, this is a hypothetical), then they would no doubt mark it down.

You're reading to far between the lines, and drawing conclusions about what I have said that seemingly hold no footing in reality. You basically misunderstood everything.

lundy86_4

Then blatantly, those reviews will be flawed in execution. Infact, if any mainstream gaming website is basing the voice acting off of it's English counterpart, when they have the opportune moment to select between 9 other languages, then the reviewer's credibility (and the website for that matter) is up for serious question. Why? Because their lack of effort is inconsistent, and their ignorance is appalling. They take the the time out to critique a game, but yet cannot be bothered to assort the language through a simple menu swap? Odd.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm not insinuating that at all. Undoubtedly though, like with any other language, there will be a lot of English reviewers. If the English VA were no good, for any number of possible reasons (just in case you misunderstand, I am not insinuating it will be no good, this is a hypothetical), then they would no doubt mark it down.

You're reading to far between the lines, and drawing conclusions about what I have said that seemingly hold no footing in reality. You basically misunderstood everything.

BlindfireMcgee

Then blatantly, those reviews will be flawed in execution. Infact, if any mainstream gaming website is basing the voice acting off of it's English counterpart, when they have the opportune moment to select between 9 other languages, then the reviewer's credibility (and the website for that matter) is up for serious question. Why? Because their lack of effort is inconsistent, and their ignorance is appalling. They take the the time out to critique a game, but yet cannot be bothered to assort the language through a simple menu swap? Odd.

Why would it be flawed? If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board. If one is of a lesser quality than the other, that's exactly a reason why it would be marked down, as it would impact the immersiveness of the game.

Your basically saying they should ignore the bad VA in lieue of using the subtitles? That is a workaround, and undoubtedly not the way the game is meant to be portrayed.

Why would it be flawed? If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board. If one is of a lesser quality than the other, that's exactly a reason why it would be marked down, as it would impact the immersiveness of the game.

Your basically saying they should ignore the bad VA in lieue of using the subtitles? That is a workaround, and undoubtedly not the way the game is meant to be portrayed.

lundy86_4

There is no way to critique a language you do not know. To suggest otherwise is completely misinformed. So there is no way to know if all the languages are decent, because you do not know the pronouciation. However, bashing a videogame based off a language that is not even it's native recording (with the added option of ten different subtitles with all languages), while completely ignoring the availabilitiy of other languages, is laughable.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why would it be flawed? If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board. If one is of a lesser quality than the other, that's exactly a reason why it would be marked down, as it would impact the immersiveness of the game.

Your basically saying they should ignore the bad VA in lieue of using the subtitles? That is a workaround, and undoubtedly not the way the game is meant to be portrayed.

BlindfireMcgee

There is no way to critique a language you do not know. To suggest otherwise is completely misinformed. So there is no way to know if all the languages are decent, because you do not know the pronouciation. However, bashing a videogame based off a language that is not even it's native recording (with the added option of ten different subtitles with all languages), while completely ignoring the availabilitiy of other languages, is laughable.

Again, I never said this. Stop reading between the lines, as your coming up with complete fallacies. The reviewer will be playing their game in their native language (presumably), so if the VA is not very good, it can be marked down for such.

Again, I never said this. Stop reading between the lines, as your coming up with complete fallacies. The reviewer will be playing their game in their native language (presumably), so if the VA is not very good, it can be marked down for such.

lundy86_4

No, I believe you did:

"If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board."

By that you are suggesting that one would know if all languages are within consistent value ranges. Which is incorrect as you cannot compare a language you know to one you do not know. It simply cannot be done.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Again, I never said this. Stop reading between the lines, as your coming up with complete fallacies. The reviewer will be playing their game in their native language (presumably), so if the VA is not very good, it can be marked down for such.

BlindfireMcgee

No, I believe you did:

"If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board."

By that you are suggesting that one would know if all languages are within consistent value ranges. Which is incorrect as you cannot compare a language you know to one you do not know. It simply cannot be done.

And where did I say a reviewer would be reviewing it, whilst not playing it in their native language.

You misinterpreted what I said, and as such stated a fallacy.

I am simply stating, that it's acceptable to believe that all VA, regardless of it's language should be even across the board. Whether or not someone can assess this in all 10 languages is regardless.

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can't call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Panosola

Oh so you're saying Heavy Rain is not even 2 hours long? Ok, gotcha.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why would it be flawed? If a game is recorded in multiple languages for a widespread audience, then it's VA should be even across the board. If one is of a lesser quality than the other, that's exactly a reason why it would be marked down, as it would impact the immersiveness of the game.

Your basically saying they should ignore the bad VA in lieue of using the subtitles? That is a workaround, and undoubtedly not the way the game is meant to be portrayed.

BlindfireMcgee

There is no way to critique a language you do not know. To suggest otherwise is completely misinformed. So there is no way to know if all the languages are decent, because you do not know the pronouciation. However, bashing a videogame based off a language that is not even it's native recording (with the added option of ten different subtitles with all languages), while completely ignoring the availabilitiy of other languages, is laughable.

If Eurogamer gives it a 9, that's good enough for me.

"Quantic Dream's game has touched me, unquestionably, both as a player because it symbolizes today the culmination of a genre halfway between cinema and video game that has always seemed interesting in it's intentions but rarely conclusive."

This is from their French counterpart, I predict the same score for the UK, if not higher.

BlindfireMcgee

This is FRENCH Eurogamer guys...its the birtish that are harsh reviewers. Also since the magazine is french and so are the devs I believe the rating is made higher by national pride. Im not saying its as bad as the germans giving Venetica great scores (Venetica is garbage) but still I think its a little bloated.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Cons:
* We're often bored
* QTEs for really everything and anything
* Clumsy gameplay
* Serious rhythm problems
* Some inconsistencies in the scenario

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-469314.aspx

BlindfireMcgee

I fail to see how that diminishes Heavy Rain's value, N4G's reviews are made BY users, therefore the credibility is already questionable.

This is FRENCH Eurogamer guys...its the birtish that are harsh reviewers. Also since the magazine is french and so are the devs I believe the rating is made higher by national pride. Im not saying its as bad as the germans giving Venetica great scores (Venetica is garbage) but still I think its a little bloated.

rzepak

first MAG then Heavy rain, the ownage this week immense!!! Keep the 9s coming quantic dream

It's looking good so far, but one caveat to note is that Eurogamer rated WKC an 8, so I don't think anyone should draw any forgone conclusions.

Different reviewers will always have different tastes, and HR is one game that I'm sure will not be for everyone.

shinrabanshou

If anything, I think WKC deserved an 8/10 more than a 6.0/10. I'd agree more with eurogamer's review altho I'd personally rate the game at about a 7.5 myself.

Regardless, I'll agree that this game isn't for everyone, just as WKC isn't, but what point are you trying to get at? Eurogamer loses its credibility because the 8/10? IMO eurogamer is one of the more credible reviewers on the internet. Who do you feel is more credible?

There's already an initial score at Metacritic - it's 95 from 4 reviews.

first MAG then Heavy rain, the ownage this week immense!!! Keep the 9s coming quantic dream

Zaibach

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Cons:
* We're often bored
* QTEs for really everything and anything
* Clumsy gameplay
* Serious rhythm problems
* Some inconsistencies in the scenario

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-469314.aspx

Panosola

Meh so what.

And they have give Mass Effect 2 on XBOX360 9/10.

http://www.n4g.com/News-469646.aspx

:lol: Self ownage. GameKult gave Mass Effect 7/10 (The site that also gave HR 6)

Get your facts right

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Cons:
* We're often bored
* QTEs for really everything and anything
* Clumsy gameplay
* Serious rhythm problems
* Some inconsistencies in the scenario

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-469314.aspx

Rza_rectah

That made me LOL well done the Troll is strong with this lol heheheh

Yeah HEavy Rain i like the theme on PSN its RAINING :P

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

It's looking good so far, but one caveat to note is that Eurogamer rated WKC an 8, so I don't think anyone should draw any forgone conclusions.

Different reviewers will always have different tastes, and HR is one game that I'm sure will not be for everyone.

Some-Mist

If anything, I think WKC deserved an 8/10 more than a 6.0/10. I'd agree more with eurogamer's review altho I'd personally rate the game at about a 7.5 myself.

Regardless, I'll agree that this game isn't for everyone, just as WKC isn't, but what point are you trying to get at? Eurogamer loses its credibility because the 8/10? IMO eurogamer is one of the more credible reviewers on the internet. Who do you feel is more credible?

I was just saying that one reviewer's review doesn't necessitate other's being similar, WKC being an apt example.

Heavy Rain will likely garner even more disparate opinions, because of the type of game it is.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

It's looking good so far, but one caveat to note is that Eurogamer rated WKC an 8, so I don't think anyone should draw any forgone conclusions.

Different reviewers will always have different tastes, and HR is one game that I'm sure will not be for everyone.

shinrabanshou

If anything, I think WKC deserved an 8/10 more than a 6.0/10. I'd agree more with eurogamer's review altho I'd personally rate the game at about a 7.5 myself.

Regardless, I'll agree that this game isn't for everyone, just as WKC isn't, but what point are you trying to get at? Eurogamer loses its credibility because the 8/10? IMO eurogamer is one of the more credible reviewers on the internet. Who do you feel is more credible?

I was just saying that one reviewer's review doesn't necessitate other's being similar, WKC being an apt example.

Heavy Rain will likely garner even more disparate opinions, because of the type of game it is.

true, but I still feel like heavy rain will be more mainstream, with more advertising than WKJ, an underrated JRPG.

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

Looks like it's going to be great. Now if GS rated it AA SW would become very entertaining :D

I'll just look on youtube for the story though :P

Odrec

It's nothing new.

[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Cons:
* We're often bored
* QTEs for really everything and anything
* Clumsy gameplay
* Serious rhythm problems
* Some inconsistencies in the scenario

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-469314.aspx

naval

I fail to see how that diminishes Heavy Rain's value, N4G's reviews are made BY users, therefore the credibility is already questionable.

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

N4G review 6/10 for Heavy Rain.I have play the demo but you can call HR game and it have no replay value,far too soft for a movie, and very boring for a video game.

Cons:
* We're often bored
* QTEs for really everything and anything
* Clumsy gameplay
* Serious rhythm problems
* Some inconsistencies in the scenario

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-469314.aspx

Panosola

Meh so what.

And they have give Mass Effect 2 on XBOX360 9/10.

http://www.n4g.com/News-469646.aspx

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

first MAG then Heavy rain, the ownage this week immense!!! Keep the 9s coming quantic dream

heretrix

I think HR will make a great rental or bargain bin purchase being basically an interactive movie. do you really have $60 or $70 to waste on a short single play interactive movie?

This "game" simply should not be getting so much attention even on system wars. Some of you have played indigo prophecy and you know what I'm talking about.

I think HR will make a great rental or bargain bin purchase being basically an interactive movie. do you really have $60 or $70 to waste on a short single play interactive movie?

This "game" simply should not be getting so much attention even on system wars. Some of you have played indigo prophecy and you know what I'm talking about.

10MP

It's not single play. There is room for multiple playthroughs. As one character dies, you take control of another and the story fills in different ways, dependant upon who lives and who dies.

Is this the same EuroGamer that throws out 6/10's like a james bond ejection seat?

This must be one heck of a game...

samuraiguns