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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]I feel his pain...stupid Xbot fans..Shafftehr
yea too bad Xbots have to feel the pain of hyping Too Human. MGS4 will never be on the 360, its too good, XBL would ruin MGO soo many 13 yr olds...
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]I feel his pain...stupid Xbot fans..CWEBB04z
yea too bad Xbots have to feel the pain of hyping Too Human. MGS4 will never be on the 360, its too good, XBL would ruin MGO soo many 13 yr olds...
Doesn't need XBL to do that. MGO sucks period.
and dont lems bash on it every day?
calling it a big cutscene?
Faulttt
why do people make the assumption wanting it to go multiplat means wanting to play it?
I can understand the guy's issue thou, he wants people to talk about the game itself and all people care about is if it's coming to the 360.
Personally, I don't want to play the game and could care less either way if it comes to the 360 or not.
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
Kojima : Because right now I enjoying $$$ from MGS4 sales & from SONY`s paycheck. Want MGS4 ? Buy PS3 you loser......
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]I feel his pain...stupid Xbot fans..CWEBB04z
yea too bad Xbots have to feel the pain of hyping Too Human. MGS4 will never be on the 360, its too good, XBL would ruin MGO soo many 13 yr olds...
so how old are the gamers on PSN? i think there are more 13 yr olds on PSN...... why because its free. Most of the gamers who are kicking your butt on MGO are more than likely teenagers.
Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's
wwedx
This is why it's exclusive, and this is why Kojima is the man, 1 word: loyalty.
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
there is no guarantee that it will make money on the 360. first it will cost money to port it that means getting rid of all the sony and apple things out it. them ms willl charge for the extra disks. yeah they do that. plus a year from now lems could be playing a exclusive that overshadows mgs4. that mean konami will lose money because no one bought the game. the same thing happen to vf5 i believe. just because you port a game to another system it doesn't mean you'll make money. thats the reason se is holding the ps3 version of ff13 untill the 360 version is done. if the pps3 goes first a year later no one will buy the 360 version. this isn't fact but why else would they the ps3 version
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]I feel his pain...stupid Xbot fans..CWEBB04z
yea too bad Xbots have to feel the pain of hyping Too Human. MGS4 will never be on the 360, its too good, XBL would ruin MGO soo many 13 yr olds...
Good thing you are in that same category.
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
Typical 360 fanboy. Why don't you ask that qustion to every developer who put their game as an exclusive on the 360. Even Valve are starting to rethink their stategy now.
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
It's probably because he is a creative person, and by the sound of it, he wants to move on. Maybe he wants to be known for more than MGS.
Also it is quite obvious here people that a straight port wouldn't be feasible. They would have to spend quality time remaking it when they could be doing something new. These people aren't EA you know.
Kojima : Because I am not greedy.Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
This really is the debate of the day. Time to accept that MGS4 will remain a PS3 exclusive. Jeeesh, just buy a PS3 already.metalgear-solid
lol
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
Maybe because he doesnt want to sacrafice his artistic vision just for a few more yen? :?
How about I answer your question with anothe question: Why didnt Square make FFVII for the N64?
I'm tired of it, too. I honestly don't know why lems want the game so bad. I've played it from beginning to end and didn't like it one bit. I guess that's just my personal opinion, but I've liked a lot of other games on PS3, 360, PC, and Wii more than MGS4.BioShockOwnz
You didnt like it one bit??? But enjoy Too Human???
I dont mean to sound critical, because that is your opinion and that's fine, but I cant imagine sharing that opinion, lol.
See this is a possitive about exclusives. Sure some are pointless but some developers really concentrate on that one piece of hardware to get the most out of it. Metal Gear Solid 4 is the best graphically impressive game this generation, well right behind Crysis of course.Holy_Phoenix
Whoa, not really. It looks great, no doubt, and one of the best looking games this gen if you ask me... but Uncharted and Gears still look better in my opinion.
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]I feel his pain...stupid Xbot fans..CWEBB04z
yea too bad Xbots have to feel the pain of hyping Too Human. MGS4 will never be on the 360, its too good, XBL would ruin MGO soo many 13 yr olds...
Damn, when did you turn into a fanboy? :|
And um...XBL would actually make MGO better...I might actually be able to communicate with my teammates...for once.
LOL kojima can't figure it out that hes asked because people want it on other systems.
WilliamRLBaker
I'm sure he's figured it out... I think it's the fanboys and media that hasnt figured it out that he doesnt want it on any other system than the PS3.
I cant figure out why he wouldnt port it either, to be honest. But it's his game, his creativity, and his money.
only one way to stop it kojima;)
wheres that guy that has the sig "Dear Mr.Kojima,Jump in.Square did.":lol:
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
sireclaborn
there is no guarantee that it will make money on the 360. first it will cost money to port it that means getting rid of all the sony and apple things out it. them ms willl charge for the extra disks. yeah they do that. plus a year from now lems could be playing a exclusive that overshadows mgs4. that mean konami will lose money because no one bought the game. the same thing happen to vf5 i believe. just because you port a game to another system it doesn't mean you'll make money. thats the reason se is holding the ps3 version of ff13 untill the 360 version is done. if the pps3 goes first a year later no one will buy the 360 version. this isn't fact but why else would they the ps3 version
It may not be fact but it sounds logical. Makes me wonder why Oblivion was ported a year later and why Bioshock is being ported a year later to a console that is harder to develop for and has a smaller user base. It makes more sense to me to port a game like MGS4 from the PlayStation 3 to the Xbox 360 than to port the aforementioned games from the Xbox 360 to the PlayStation 3.
I'm tired of it, too. I honestly don't know why lems want the game so bad. I've played it from beginning to end and didn't like it one bit. I guess that's just my personal opinion, but I've liked a lot of other games on PS3, 360, PC, and Wii more than MGS4.BioShockOwnzYeah, but we all know that you HATE mgs4, and not everybody hates it...
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I'm tired of it, too. I honestly don't know why lems want the game so bad. I've played it from beginning to end and didn't like it one bit. I guess that's just my personal opinion, but I've liked a lot of other games on PS3, 360, PC, and Wii more than MGS4.MKLOLYeah, but we all know that you HATE mgs4, and not everybody hates it...
But I know I've seen him call it a great game before. So that post kinda confuses me. :?
[QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"]only one way to stop it kojima;)
wheres that guy that has the sig "Dear Mr.Kojima,Jump in.Square did.":lol:
carljohnson3456
He suicide threaded himself. :(
What was his username? I remember him from his sig only.He seemed like a pretty good guy. :?
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
Flamestos
Typical 360 fanboy. Why don't you ask that qustion to every developer who put their game as an exclusive on the 360. Even Valve are starting to rethink their stategy now.
The Xbox 360 is easier to develop for and has a far larger user base than the PlayStation 3. It makes more sense for businesses to put exclusives on the Xbox 360 than on the PlayStation 3.
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
Flamestos
Typical 360 fanboy. Why don't you ask that qustion to every developer who put their game as an exclusive on the 360. Even Valve are starting to rethink their stategy now.
Since when has Valve made exclusives for the 360?[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"]only one way to stop it kojima;)
wheres that guy that has the sig "Dear Mr.Kojima,Jump in.Square did.":lol:
MoldOnHold
He suicide threaded himself. :(
What was his username? I remember him from his sig only.He seemed like a pretty good guy. :?
Jazreal... I remembered him from his sig only until that thread he made, lol.
Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
FirstDiscovery
It's the same concept as Rage looking worse on the 360. There's a point where too many DVDs is just not cost effective to produce. MGS4 is a complete Blu-ray disc's worth of data. That would translate to way too many discs for them to make any money off of it.
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Heres my question Kojima
Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?
bubbleboyii
It's the same concept as Rage looking worse on the 360. There's a point where too many DVDs is just not cost effective to produce. MGS4 is a complete Blu-ray disc's worth of data. That would translate to way too many discs for them to make any money off of it.
As far as I know all they'd have to do is compress the audio, which sucks but some people don't care about audio as much as graphics.
Eurogamer writes: "Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has told Eurogamer that he looks forward to a day when people stop asking him whether MGS4 is coming out on Xbox 360.
"I've been doing a lot of interviews and stage shows, and half the questions are like 'Will MGS4 be coming out on 360 or other formats?', and in the near future I hope they'll ask me about Metal Gear, about us, about our future projects, and will stop caring about the hardware," Kojima told Eurogamer in an interview published today.
Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that 'because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible."
wwedx
I like how he reasosn why it won't come to the 360 because "its success had been entwined with PS's" which is saying "i'm a sony fanboy and don't like the competition because sony's console made it famous".
Yet games like Final Fantasy were made famous by... get this... NINTENDO, and then got bigger on PS and now coming to multiplatform. Yeah i call fake on the optimizing argument, he's just stuck on ps2's success, and can't see how bad ps3 has failed so far compared to it's old PS2 counterpart.
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