Eurogamer: Kojima wishes people would stop asking about MGS4 on 360

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Chutebox

why do people make the assumption wanting it to go multiplat means wanting to play it?

I don't know, common sense?

seeing asthough this is SW i would love Sony to lose their biggest exclusive purely because the board would be halarious. In the same way alot of cows cant wait for Halo 3 to go to PC just so they can make a big deal about the 360 losing another exclusive.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

marklarmer

why do people make the assumption wanting it to go multiplat means wanting to play it?

I don't know, common sense?

seeing asthough this is SW i would love Sony to loose their biggest exclusive purely because the board would be halarious. In the same way alot of cows cant wait for Halo 3 to go to PC just so they can make a big deal about the 360 losing another exclusive.

Well, that's just sad on all counts.

[QUOTE="wwedx"]Eurogamer writes: "Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has told Eurogamer that he looks forward to a day when people stop asking him whether MGS4 is coming out on Xbox 360.

"I've been doing a lot of interviews and stage shows, and half the questions are like 'Will MGS4 be coming out on 360 or other formats?', and in the near future I hope they'll ask me about Metal Gear, about us, about our future projects, and will stop caring about the hardware," Kojima told Eurogamer in an interview published today.

Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that 'because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible."
Phazevariance

I like how he reasosn why it won't come to the 360 because "its success had been entwined with PS's" which is saying "i'm a sony fanboy and don't like the competition because sony's console made it famous".

Yet games like Final Fantasy were made famous by... get this... NINTENDO, and then got bigger on PS and now coming to multiplatform. Yeah i call fake on the optimizing argument, he's just stuck on ps2's success, and can't see how bad ps3 has failed so far compared to it's old PS2 counterpart.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Faulttt"]

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Chutebox

why do people make the assumption wanting it to go multiplat means wanting to play it?

I don't know, common sense?

seeing asthough this is SW i would love Sony to loose their biggest exclusive purely because the board would be halarious. In the same way alot of cows cant wait for Halo 3 to go to PC just so they can make a big deal about the 360 losing another exclusive.

Well, that's just sad on all counts.

you do know you're on SW right?

you do know you're on SW right?

marklarmer

Yea, I should know better. I know.

I like how he reasosn why it won't come to the 360 because "its success had been entwined with PS's" which is saying "i'm a sony fanboy and don't like the competition because sony's console made it famous".

Yet games like Final Fantasy were made famous by... get this... NINTENDO, and then got bigger on PS and now coming to multiplatform. Yeah i call fake on the optimizing argument, he's just stuck on ps2's success, and can't see how bad ps3 has failed so far compared to it's old PS2 counterpart.

Phazevariance

Man you ever thought that making games to developers is like an art? And the system they make it on is a canvas? Ya know, Sony's platforms have made MGS a ****c, and maybe he feels good about the game being on the system. Maybe it's not a fanboy thing at all (obviously), maybe it's just he really likes that canvas.

I've never been a die hard MGS fan, believe me. I've always *liked* the games but never really would have called them in my top 5 games. But incase you havent played MGS4 (yet again, obviously) it's a pretty emotional game. It's not a mindless, kill 'em all shooter. It has 45 minute cut scenes because Kojima wants to tell a story along side delivering a great game. I highly doubt he thinks of MGS as anything other than art to him. And if you played the game, you would know the game plays heavily on emotion in alot of ways. Hopelessness, sadness, happiness, and anger. It's all there. That doesnt mean everyone experinces it, but it's there. It depends on the player how it affects them...

With that said, I do know Kojima is worried about money. I dont think he's soley an artist, I'm sure making multi-millions a year probably has something to do with him being a game designer... but at the same time, he is a multi-millionaire. He doesnt have to worry about money too much. If he wants the game (that has sold an impressive amount) to stay PS3 exclusve he can afford to do so. If that's the canvas he wants Snake's swan song to be on, then so be it. That doesnt make him a fanboy.

*Wipes sweat from forehead* Sorry, I usually dont get like that. But I'm about sick of Hideo taking a beating all because lems are jelous of the system the game is on. And if you dont agree with my thoughts on the game you dont have to. That's how I feel and it's another way to look at the situation anyway.

Being a PS3 owner, I will say WHO CARES ABOUT MULLET GEAR SOLID 4??!! Try hyping God of War 3, or Little Big Planet instead of a played out franchise with WAY too many BORING A$$ CUTSCENES. With Gears of War, and Mass Effect, Virtua Fighter 5(no COW you can't play your inferior version online), Halo 3, Bioshock(yeah it will be ported to PS3 eventually where it will be old news). Get your nose out of Sonys a$$, get a job, buy all three systems and quit being a LAME FANBOY.BudsMcGreen

Anti-Fanboy? With a post like that?

[QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]Being a PS3 owner, I will say WHO CARES ABOUT MULLET GEAR SOLID 4??!! Try hyping God of War 3, or Little Big Planet instead of a played out franchise with WAY too many BORING A$$ CUTSCENES. With Gears of War, and Mass Effect, Virtua Fighter 5(no COW you can't play your inferior version online), Halo 3, Bioshock(yeah it will be ported to PS3 eventually where it will be old news). Get your nose out of Sonys a$$, get a job, buy all three systems and quit being a LAME FANBOY.carljohnson3456

Anti-Fanboy? With a post like that?

Yeah...that one kinda threw me too. 0_o

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="wwedx"]Eurogamer writes: "Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has told Eurogamer that he looks forward to a day when people stop asking him whether MGS4 is coming out on Xbox 360.

"I've been doing a lot of interviews and stage shows, and half the questions are like 'Will MGS4 be coming out on 360 or other formats?', and in the near future I hope they'll ask me about Metal Gear, about us, about our future projects, and will stop caring about the hardware," Kojima told Eurogamer in an interview published today.

Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that 'because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible."
EVOLV3

I like how he reasosn why it won't come to the 360 because "its success had been entwined with PS's" which is saying "i'm a sony fanboy and don't like the competition because sony's console made it famous".

Yet games like Final Fantasy were made famous by... get this... NINTENDO, and then got bigger on PS and now coming to multiplatform. Yeah i call fake on the optimizing argument, he's just stuck on ps2's success, and can't see how bad ps3 has failed so far compared to it's old PS2 counterpart.

Noooo...

Its more of a way of kojima thing sony for all their help. Sony helped them to create a great series with loads of fans. And kojima knows how devastating it would be to sony if they lost that exclusive. Its just Kojima paying sony back for their help, plus i think kojima thought that the game would run better on the console.

Also you must remember that the relationship with kojima studios and sony will be very good. They are both japanese based companies that have been working alongside eachother for over 10 years. nake has become one of sonys icons which is nice for kojima and good for sony. Its just 2 buisinesses helping eachother. Sony gets their exclusives and money, and kojima has sony to help with marketing, they have them for funding, and they also have them for help with making the game good on the ps3.

You will find that many 1st party and second party devs in sony help eachother with games, look at uncharteds credits and loads of dev studios helped them with the game.

Quick summation:

Kojima - "Why is everyone not always talking about my game???"

The man is obviously insane with a god complex.

farrell2k

Oh for crying out loud. They are talking about his game anyway; he's telling the fans to stop asking about a port.

It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:nVidiaGaMer

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:SSCyborg

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

1. omg a 2 minuite install :roll:

2. Play the game dammit. Personally I enjoyed the cutscene every bit as much as the gamplay, which believe me is a compliment to the gameplay!

also I would be annoyed if i came to an interview after making an AAAA game, expecting to talk about my game, lie you do with most interviews, but instad you get: " will MGS4 come to the 360"

Kojima: "stut the F up"

/interview

[QUOTE="Faulttt"]

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

marklarmer

why do people make the assumption wanting it to go multiplat means wanting to play it?

It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:nVidiaGaMer

Just as fun as having to install files every act. ;)

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:NinjaMunkey01

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

1. omg a 2 minuite install :roll:

2. Play the game dammit. Personally I enjoyed the cutscene every bit as much as the gamplay, which believe me is a compliment to the gameplay!

also I would be annoyed if i came to an interview after making an AAAA game, expecting to talk about my game, lie you do with most interviews, but instad you get: " will MGS4 come to the 360"

Kojima: "stut the F up"

/interview

Too bad it's rated lower than Halo 3 in the real world.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:SSCyborg

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

1. omg a 2 minuite install :roll:

2. Play the game dammit. Personally I enjoyed the cutscene every bit as much as the gamplay, which believe me is a compliment to the gameplay!

also I would be annoyed if i came to an interview after making an AAAA game, expecting to talk about my game, lie you do with most interviews, but instad you get: " will MGS4 come to the 360"

Kojima: "stut the F up"

/interview

Too bad it's rated lower than Halo 3 in the real world.

damage control, mad that it is not on the 360, this is getting sad, i have yet to see a topic where a cow, states, I want gears, I want gears.

It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:Toriko42

With no installs. :?

damage control, mad that it is not on the 360, this is getting sad, i have yet to see a topic where a cow, states, I want gears, I want gears.

LoZoned

LOL!

ITS TEH GEARS KILLER

ITS TEH HALO KILLER

cows want our games

I'm not DCing, he stated it was a AAAA when infact MANY reviewers rated Halo higher.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="wwedx"]Eurogamer writes: "Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has told Eurogamer that he looks forward to a day when people stop asking him whether MGS4 is coming out on Xbox 360.

"I've been doing a lot of interviews and stage shows, and half the questions are like 'Will MGS4 be coming out on 360 or other formats?', and in the near future I hope they'll ask me about Metal Gear, about us, about our future projects, and will stop caring about the hardware," Kojima told Eurogamer in an interview published today.

Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that 'because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible."
EVOLV3

I like how he reasosn why it won't come to the 360 because "its success had been entwined with PS's" which is saying "i'm a sony fanboy and don't like the competition because sony's console made it famous".

Yet games like Final Fantasy were made famous by... get this... NINTENDO, and then got bigger on PS and now coming to multiplatform. Yeah i call fake on the optimizing argument, he's just stuck on ps2's success, and can't see how bad ps3 has failed so far compared to it's old PS2 counterpart.

agreed

mgs4 is a confusing game and i've played all them. if a 360 fan who never played a mgs game before played it they would not get the game or what the hell the game is about.

[QUOTE="LoZoned"]

damage control, mad that it is not on the 360, this is getting sad, i have yet to see a topic where a cow, states, I want gears, I want gears.

SSCyborg

LOL!

ITS TEH GEARS KILLER

ITS TEH HALO KILLER

cows want our games

I'm not DCing, he stated it was a AAAA when infact MANY reviewers rated Halo higher.

you are implying that a ps3 will dethrone one of your games, not that we want your games, get your thoughts together then post.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:Toriko42

i hate it when people act as if it really is that easy to make a game. if it was that easy kojima would of made it for the 360. but since the beginning he said many times that the 360 can't handle it and the ps3 could.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:SSCyborg

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

1. omg a 2 minuite install :roll:

2. Play the game dammit. Personally I enjoyed the cutscene every bit as much as the gamplay, which believe me is a compliment to the gameplay!

also I would be annoyed if i came to an interview after making an AAAA game, expecting to talk about my game, lie you do with most interviews, but instad you get: " will MGS4 come to the 360"

Kojima: "stut the F up"

/interview

Too bad it's rated lower than Halo 3 in the real world.

1. I am confused now. First fanboys say only GS counts, then we use all the sites, then we only use GS. So I want to know now, what are we using? GS or other sites too???

2. I am telling you now owning and having played both games for over 30 hours MGS4 is better. The only reason i can say that halo 3 scored higher is the multiplayer, which was better, but also the fact it did not face any sort of majour competition at the time. reviews are just comparasons using games that are already out. MGS4 came out with stiff competition like COD4 which could easily have drove Halo 3's score down to 8.5, still great, but not AAA.

[QUOTE="LoZoned"]

damage control, mad that it is not on the 360, this is getting sad, i have yet to see a topic where a cow, states, I want gears, I want gears.

SSCyborg

LOL!

ITS TEH GEARS KILLER

ITS TEH HALO KILLER

cows want our games

I'm not DCing, he stated it was a AAAA when infact MANY reviewers rated Halo higher.

if a cow really wanted to play gears they could play it on their pc. halo i can guarantee will be on the pc. why wouldn't it everything else is on the the 360 is on the pc. or they could buy a 360. whats the point of begging for a game. we're all suppose to be gamers

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:sireclaborn

i hate it when people act as if it really is that easy to make a game. if it was that easy kojima would of made it for the 360. but since the beginning he said many times that the 360 can't handle it and the ps3 could.

Dude. Stop listening to what the interwebz says. FFXIII will be 5 times whatever MGS4 is, and it's on the 360. If Kojima wanted to make a 360 version, he could. But he won't, because he doesn't feel like it.

[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Heres my question Kojima

Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?

flatline711

Typical 360 fanboy. Why don't you ask that qustion to every developer who put their game as an exclusive on the 360. Even Valve are starting to rethink their stategy now.

Valve makes PC/360 only games and leave out the PS3 because they don't want to work on the system but now they are starting to have a change of heart because they will make more money. I didn't mean to connect Valve made 360 exclusives themselves.

I'm tired of it, too. I honestly don't know why lems want the game so bad. I've played it from beginning to end and didn't like it one bit. I guess that's just my personal opinion, but I've liked a lot of other games on PS3, 360, PC, and Wii more than MGS4.BioShockOwnz

It's funny how you went from:

MGS4 = 10

to

MGS4 = a good game

to

MGS4 = just ok

to

MGS4 = didn't like it one bit

Did SW get to you? :P

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I'm tired of it, too. I honestly don't know why lems want the game so bad. I've played it from beginning to end and didn't like it one bit. I guess that's just my personal opinion, but I've liked a lot of other games on PS3, 360, PC, and Wii more than MGS4.stepat201

It's funny how you went from:

MGS4 = 10

to

MGS4 = a good game

to

MGS4 = just ok

to

MGS4 = didn't like it one bit

Did SW get to you? :P

lol. oh bioshockowns did you just own yourself? :lol:

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:NinjaMunkey01

Not as bad as reinstalling every Act! :lol:

and dont lems bash on it every day?

calling it a big cutscene?

Faulttt

Cutscene implies it's a game.

This is a movie.

1. omg a 2 minuite install :roll:

2. Play the game dammit. Personally I enjoyed the cutscene every bit as much as the gamplay, which believe me is a compliment to the gameplay!

also I would be annoyed if i came to an interview after making an AAAA game, expecting to talk about my game, lie you do with most interviews, but instad you get: " will MGS4 come to the 360"

Kojima: "stut the F up"

/interview

Too bad it's rated lower than Halo 3 in the real world.

1. I am confused now. First fanboys say only GS counts, then we use all the sites, then we only use GS. So I want to know now, what are we using? GS or other sites too???

2. I am telling you now owning and having played both games for over 30 hours MGS4 is better. The only reason i can say that halo 3 scored higher is the multiplayer, which was better, but also the fact it did not face any sort of majour competition at the time. reviews are just comparasons using games that are already out. MGS4 came out with stiff competition like COD4 which could easily have drove Halo 3's score down to 8.5, still great, but not AAA.

When you say "Go into an interview after making a AAAA game", you imply that EVERYWHERE scored this game AAAA. If the interview was with Gamespot that might have slid, but the general consensus is that it is not AAAA.

And Call of Generic 4 scored less than Halo 3.

[QUOTE="flatline711"][QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Heres my question Kojima

Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?

Flamestos

Typical 360 fanboy. Why don't you ask that qustion to every developer who put their game as an exclusive on the 360. Even Valve are starting to rethink their stategy now.

Valve makes PC/360 only games and leave out the PS3 because they don't want to work on the system but now they are starting to have a change of heart because they will make more money. I didn't mean to connect Valve made 360 exclusives themselves.

I know, I was just teasing :P

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]It would be fun having to switch DVDs twice every Act! :lol:xsubtownerx

i hate it when people act as if it really is that easy to make a game. if it was that easy kojima would of made it for the 360. but since the beginning he said many times that the 360 can't handle it and the ps3 could.

Dude. Stop listening to what the interwebz says. FFXIII will be 5 times whatever MGS4 is, and it's on the 360. If Kojima wanted to make a 360 version, he could. But he won't, because he doesn't feel like it.

if you want to play with 3-5 disk go ahead i take my on one disk. do you know what thats going to look like. dvd vs vhs all over agin. plus the interweb??? kojima himself said it not the internet. you can argue about it all you want but kojima words are final.

BTW, there are much much much more 14 years old kids in XBL then PSN. That's real.vivelaps3

Hard to tell actually as there are more mics on XBL so the younger players tend to stand out,

Heres my question Kojima

Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?

FirstDiscovery

Thats like asking every dev why do they make exclusives.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Heres my question Kojima

Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?

finalfantasy94

Thats like asking every dev why do they make exclusives.

Except Kojima is third party, and has the resources to make the port.

Metal Gear Solid 4: will be a PS3 exclusive, because it did its job and made enough money. He could port it, but he probably doesn't want to.

Zone of the Enders 3 will be a multiplat. I would bet on that.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

Heres my question Kojima

Why are you willing to lose out on so much money?

SSCyborg

Thats like asking every dev why do they make exclusives.

Except Kojima is third party, and has the resources to make the port.

I was talking about third parites dude. Again thats like asking them why they make exclusives.

Hm...he seems a little TOO ahead of himself. Its like all he's trying to say is "I want people to worship my game forever."

Though I wonder how the MGS series will stay alive. Or will he just let it die lol.