Eurogamer looking at GT5 damage.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Wubba"]

You're right. Real pros never wreck.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/Auto-Crash-F1-Michael-Schumacher-Ferrari-Wre-395491.html

Schumaker was an amateur anyways. :roll:

asylumni

Please, Formula 1 can hardly be called professional with their glorified go-carts. You'd never see the REAL pros commit this kind of foolishness. :P

:lol: That was truly an epic failure on their part.

And you're right. Pros would never cause such an amazing crash. Those guys must all be amateurs as well!

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Well, I prefer GT's presentation because it's more classy and professional.

Rikusaki

It is true, but if the ultimate GT fanboy is resorting to this:P. Then PD needs to step it up. I agree about the professional look.

I will tell you this:

I'm a hardcore GT fan.

I don't care about how "far behind" GT is from the rest of the pack.

I don't care about Forza having "better" Physics or if you can slap decal stickers on your car.

That's not why I prefer GT over Forza. Not because of the features it offers.

I prefer GT over Forza because of the things that set it apart from all other racers.

What other racing game has classy jazz music in all of the menus?

What other racing game puts more work into the opening cinematic than the sounds of the car engine?

My point is that I have fallen in love with what GT is now and I really hope it doesn't try too hard to become something it's not.

Are you serious? So do you acually play the game?

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and the car that got hit got was a scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and all the car that got hit was scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

ZoomZoom2490

Damage was obviously off, look at the forza 2 damage I posted, it is better than the GT5 damage seen so far. Forza 3 will be even better.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and all the car that got hit was scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

Damage was obviously off, look at the forza 2 damage I posted, it is better than the GT5 damage seen so far. Forza 3 will be even better.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and all the car that got hit was scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

ZoomZoom2490

Damage was obviously off, look at the forza 2 damage I posted, it is better than the GT5 damage seen so far. Forza 3 will be even better.

They showed roll over..

Here is a forza 2 vidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfxmsuOVYL4&feature=related

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and the car that got hit got was a scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

forza 3 damage is laughable at best, i saw one gameplay video where the driver hit another car at 200mph and all the car that got hit was scratched bumper, lol, u call that damage? common.

ZoomZoom2490

Damage was obviously off, look at the forza 2 damage I posted, it is better than the GT5 damage seen so far. Forza 3 will be even better.

He means in terms of whether or not the damage was merely cosmetic or set to damage the performance of the car. Obviously, if the car crashed into another without taking a performance hit, the damage was set to cosmetic.

Nice try though.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

Damage was obviously off, look at the forza 2 damage I posted, it is better than the GT5 damage seen so far. Forza 3 will be even better.

The_Game21x

He means in terms of whether or not the damage was merely cosmetic or set to damage the performance of the car. Obviously, if the car crashed into another without taking a performance hit, the damage was set to cosmetic.

Nice try though.

Not even cosmetic, I did not see any scratches really.

People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. rybe1025

maybe if they didnt include damage at all it would score lower due to other games having it

[QUOTE="david_is_basic"]

Doesn't make a difference to a true gamer, because a real pro doesn't damage his vehicle anyway. 360 fans are just too casual of gamers to understand that.

Wubba

You're right. Real pros never wreck.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/Auto-Crash-F1-Michael-Schumacher-Ferrari-Wre-395491.html

Schumaker was an amateur anyways. :roll:

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

It is true, but if the ultimate GT fanboy is resorting to this:P. Then PD needs to step it up. I agree about the professional look.

Camer999

I will tell you this:

I'm a hardcore GT fan.

I don't care about how "far behind" GT is from the rest of the pack.

I don't care about Forza having "better" Physics or if you can slap decal stickers on your car.

That's not why I prefer GT over Forza. Not because of the features it offers.

I prefer GT over Forza because of the things that set it apart from all other racers.

What other racing game has classy jazz music in all of the menus?

What other racing game puts more work into the opening cinematic than the sounds of the car engine?

My point is that I have fallen in love with what GT is now and I really hope it doesn't try too hard to become something it's not.

Are you serious? So do you acually play the game?

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. hyperboy152000

maybe if they didnt include damage at all it would score lower due to other games having it

People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. rybe1025

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

[QUOTE="david_is_basic"]

Doesn't make a difference to a true gamer, because a real pro doesn't damage his vehicle anyway. 360 fans are just too casual of gamers to understand that.

zero_snake99

You're right. Real pros never wreck.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/Auto-Crash-F1-Michael-Schumacher-Ferrari-Wre-395491.html

Schumaker was an amateur anyways. :roll:

foolishnessWell, the guy that won the race won and got slightly damaged. Forza also does real-time damage so you are slowly damaging parts and slowly making it impossible to win anyway.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] damage was on, they were actually showing off the damage in that video, lol. nice try btw.Camer999

He means in terms of whether or not the damage was merely cosmetic or set to damage the performance of the car. Obviously, if the car crashed into another without taking a performance hit, the damage was set to cosmetic.

Nice try though.

Not even cosmetic, I did not see any scratches really.

People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. rybe1025

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I will tell you this:

I'm a hardcore GT fan.

I don't care about how "far behind" GT is from the rest of the pack.

I don't care about Forza having "better" Physics or if you can slap decal stickers on your car.

That's not why I prefer GT over Forza. Not because of the features it offers.

I prefer GT over Forza because of the things that set it apart from all other racers.

What other racing game has classy jazz music in all of the menus?

What other racing game puts more work into the opening cinematic than the sounds of the car engine?

My point is that I have fallen in love with what GT is now and I really hope it doesn't try too hard to become something it's not.

Rikusaki

Are you serious? So do you acually play the game?

I see is the fact that you like features not related to gameplay more than features related to gameplay.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] damage was on, they were actually showing off the damage in that video, lol. nice try btw.Camer999

He means in terms of whether or not the damage was merely cosmetic or set to damage the performance of the car. Obviously, if the car crashed into another without taking a performance hit, the damage was set to cosmetic.

Nice try though.

Not even cosmetic, I did not see any scratches really.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. Rikusaki

It is being compared to other sims.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

He means in terms of whether or not the damage was merely cosmetic or set to damage the performance of the car. Obviously, if the car crashed into another without taking a performance hit, the damage was set to cosmetic.

Nice try though.

zero_snake99

Not even cosmetic, I did not see any scratches really.

I mean the E3 forza build.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. Camer999

It is being compared to other sims.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

Are you serious? So do you acually play the game?

Camer999

I see is the fact that you like features not related to gameplay more than features related to gameplay.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

Not even cosmetic, I did not see any scratches really.

Camer999

I mean the E3 forza build.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]People can do damage control about damage all they want but this will hurt the score of GT5 big time. rybe1025

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Yes. I play GT4 all the time. :) zero_snake99

I see is the fact that you like features not related to gameplay more than features related to gameplay.

You can do all that in forza... Well except the feeling of the physics..which I would not what forza to do anyway.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Not really. 170 cars with damage is more than GTAIV, Saints Row, Burnout, or just about any other arcade racing game. ;)Rikusaki

edit-Ok bad company was pretty close to being able to destroy everything.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"] For GT5? Yes, there are scratches. The damage is obviously not done. Because only the stuff that can break get scratched (doors, bumpers, hood) which is all that really matters unless there is roll over. But yeah, there is cosmetic damage on GT5 and it also has internal damage.zero_snake99

I mean the E3 forza build.

Yea because forza 2 has awesome damage and all they can do is improve it.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Not really. 170 cars with damage is more than GTAIV, Saints Row, Burnout, or just about any other arcade racing game. ;)Rikusaki

Really? how come I can't do things in GTA that I can do with red faction?

So the damage is just pop off parts. Smash up Durby is Fun.....

So the damage is just pop off parts. Smash up Durby is Fun.....

vaderhater

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

[QUOTE="david_is_basic"]

Doesn't make a difference to a true gamer, because a real pro doesn't damage his vehicle anyway. 360 fans are just too casual of gamers to understand that.

zero_snake99

You're right. Real pros never wreck.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/Auto-Crash-F1-Michael-Schumacher-Ferrari-Wre-395491.html

Schumaker was an amateur anyways. :roll:

However, the lack of location-specific damage is lame. How is it that Turn 10 can get this stuff right and the mighty Polyphony Digital continues to display incompetence?

Good analysis. The damage modeling does seem quite underwhelming in GT5.

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

[QUOTE="david_is_basic"]

Doesn't make a difference to a true gamer, because a real pro doesn't damage his vehicle anyway. 360 fans are just too casual of gamers to understand that.

zero_snake99

You're right. Real pros never wreck.

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/Auto-Crash-F1-Michael-Schumacher-Ferrari-Wre-395491.html

Schumaker was an amateur anyways. :roll:

I could post thousands of links to videos where cars are all sorts get into fairly serious crashes and come back to win a race. A bump, smashed up front wing, punted into a wall, loss or wing, exploded cooling, etc, does not guarantee your race is over. Watch enough racing and you'll find out just how much beating a car can take and keep on ticking.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]2 differences GTA, and Saints row like I said yesterday are not racing games they have for more to do but yet all their cars have damage and are effected. The only job for GT5 is to be a racing Sim and not only does it not have all cars with damage but the ones it does have seem to do it poorly. I brought up GTA yesterday to show how many games are doing damage. It is bad though when GT fans think it is a good thing to have a SIM racer have a few more cars with damage then a open world sandbox adventure game.rybe1025

edit-Ok bad company was pretty close to being able to destroy everything.

I just want to know how did you come up with this comparison?

You compare GTA with racing games, do you really believe the damage modelling is way harder to make in GTA than GT5 ? lol.

How about compare it with hitting a tree in Crysis? thats a better comparison, the tree damage modelling is way better than GT5's damage modelling :roll:

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Well in a sandbox game usually EVERYTHING is destructible. It would be stupid if the cars weren't. In GT, NOTHING is destructible. And that makes it fine if the cars aren't either. :)HAZE-Unit

edit-Ok bad company was pretty close to being able to destroy everything.

I just want to know how did you come up with this comparison?

You compare GTA with racing games, do you really believe the damage modelling is way harder to make in GTA than GT5 ? lol.

How about compare it with hitting a tree in Crysis? thats a better comparison, the tree damage modelling is way better than GT5's damage modelling :roll:

Its just Rybe and hes back :lol: