Eurogamer on "Resolutiongate" and the 720p fallout.

While Digital Foundry has yet to see either next-gen version of Call of Duty, our experience with Battlefield 4 demonstrates that you can easily see the visual difference between them. The Xbox One version holds up well given the gulf in resolution, but it doesn't require a pixel counter to tell that the PS4 game is crisper and cleaner either. At last week's Battlefield 4 review event in Stockholm, we noted that the resolution change from one version to the next was obvious to many of the press in attendance, with some even suggesting on-site that the PS4 version was operating at native 1080p when its actual resolution was 1600x900.

The reality for Microsoft is that the raw spec differential it has battled against is not only borne out in what is arguably the most technologically advanced multi-platform game of the next-gen launch, but the gulf actually increases on a title that, on the face of it, isn't pushing boundaries to anything like the same degree.

However, the hardware make-up itself could be more troublesome for multi-platform developers in the longer term, despite Microsoft's outline of how the Xbox One tech operates and the theoretical advantages it chose to highlight. In our In Theory piece, we could only address the teraflop difference - we couldn't measure the impact of Xbox One's reduction in memory bandwidth, and we certainly couldn't factor in what was then the big unknown: the controversial 32MB of Embedded Static RAM (ESRAM) built into the Xbox One's central processor.

As the metrics emerge on key next-gen launch titles, it's clear that Xbox One is under-performing against its rival - not just according to spec, but actually beyond the theoretical teraflop differential.

Our Battlefield 4 Face-Off preview reveals a 50 per cent resolution boost on PlayStation 4 with no appreciable compromise in effects or performance in single-player gameplay

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-resolutiongate-the-fallout

Someone is keeping it real. Make of it what you will, but Eurogamer sees what I saw in JackFrags' videos.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw7FkXsC00lH2v2yB5LQoYA

A clear, substantive, appreciable difference.

Xbox fanboys may want to shield your eyes with your fanboy goggles before clicking.

For those objective minds among us who are getting both consoles...this is a game to get on PS4 or PC. End of story.

Nono, clearly there is no difference.

"Resolutiongate"

Still makes me laugh.

Aside from DR3, I see no reason to get a X1. All the multiplats are handled by my PC and Sony has the exclusives covered.

I like to sit far away from the 3DS, that way games look just as good as the Vita.

Jim, I leave for 3 years, come back and I *still* have more posts than you. :P

Killer Instinct looks like win.

I'm holding onto my pre-order almost just for it at this point.

Minimal differences that I can see, and I looked at the footage. Its a good article and he makes alot of points I agree with. But the difference is still not very big at all. And more people are seeing that now. But as always, but what you like and screw all this talk, lol.

lol, they even used the tvtvtvtv video.

Heh, until around Jan/Feb this year this place had become stale. Thank God for this new gen drama.

I can imagine. There's only so much to argue about at the end of a generation when sales are pretty much even throughout.

It could just be me but why would anybody pay 100 bucks more for 720p on the x1, when you can save 100 bucks and get 1080p on the ps4 ??

Battlefield 4 demonstrates that you can easily see the visual difference between them. The Xbox One version holds up well given the gulf in resolution, but it doesn't require a pixel counter to tell that the PS4 game is crisper and cleaner either.

So you can see the difference between them visually as said by DF and it's confirmed the the ps4 is cleaner and crisper. The same was said by JackFrags and his other journalists, when he claimed the PS4 has better lighting and particle effects and the MP version of PS4 looks better than SP on Xbox One.

Interesting how I see other people say there's no difference...

What game besides CoD is 720p on X1 but 1080p on PS4? Name another.

Good DC, there isn't any because we've only been able to compare BF4 (900p to 720p) and CoD. Most multiplats haven't even been shown on X1 so expect inferior multiplats more in bound for the Xbox 720p.

Most multiplats shown so far are 1080p on both platforms.

Well, well, well... Atleast Eurogamer is not part of the money hat committee that can't differentiate 720P from 1080P.

The arbitrary "TLHBO" just won't do here. This is gen defying ownage

That is because you are choosing to ignore fact,the PS4 run at higher res while running faster,having less way less jaggies and looking sharper and better period.

To do that you require power,if the xbox one was on the same level if would be doing the same it just doesn't.

Oh and one big fact you people are ignoring,if ever the time comes where the PS4 need to run a game at 720p,you rest assure that it will run it way better looking than the xbox one,do to those extra resource been put to visuals mark those words,as i have been basically spot on about what would happen,and ESRAM like i claimed was a con not a pro for the xbox one,and like i say it would not boost the GPU or close the 600+ gap the PS4 has on the xbox one.

You only had to imagine how much worse it would be without the 6% GPU and CPU increase.

Hopefully the drivers get better and devs learn to use ESRAM, otherwise its gonna be a LONG gen.

Are you on crystal meth?

I am waiting for AC4 since it is been hide to hell so maybe that is another.

What there are only 3 games on 1080p on xbox one,Forza,Fifa and NBA 2k14... No other game has been confirmed to be 1080p on xbox one that i know,not AC4,BF4,COD Ghost, who knows maybe NFS as well may be 1080p but we have to see,until now is either Racing or sports 2 engines which are not that demanding.

What ever happened to BlackAce?

Besides COD?

COD?

The biggest FPS for Xbox? I mean putting yourself in a corner like that isn't healthy at all.

Here's every game with confirmed resolutions:

One

Forza: 1080p - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/09/17/forza-5-runs-at-native-1080p-ryse-does-not

FIFA: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-28-whats-the-difference-between-current-gen-and-next-gen-fifa

LocoCycle 1080p - Pixel count by Liabe Brave - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86349940&postcount=35

Zoo Tycoon 1080p - Pixel count by Liabe Brave - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86353156&postcount=37

PowerstarGolf - 720p with 1080p UI - Pixel count by Liabe Brave - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86349940&postcount=35

Ryse: 900p - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/09/17/forza-5-runs-at-native-1080p-ryse-does-not

CoD: Ghosts: 720p - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rqqa5o

BF4: 720p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-vs-pc-face-off-preview

KI: 720p - http://gamingbolt.com/killer-instinct-dev-anything-that-hinders-60-fps-is-removed-or-optimized-praises-xbox-one-cloud

DR3: Dynamic - It changes resolution dynamically to maintain framerate stability, so who knows but at minimum, it means it falls below 1080p.

PS4

Driveclub: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

KZ:SF: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

Knack: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

Infamous: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

The Order: 1920x800 (artistic- 2.40 cinema aspect ratio, retains 1:1 pixel mapping) - Seriously, the resolution of this one is everywhere, find it yourself :p

ACIV: 1080p - constantly referred to as 1080p, eurogamer comment here - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-assassins-creed-4

CoD: Ghosts: 1080p - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rqqa5o

FIFA: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-28-whats-the-difference-between-current-gen-and-next-gen-fifa

Resogun: 1080p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-resogun

Flower: 1080p - https://twitter.com/TDMoss/status/385907407475314688 - talks about 60fps in tweet but in comments confirms 1080p

DC:UO: 1080p - http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/06/13/e3-2013-dcuo-plans-to-remain-completely-free-on-ps4/

FF14: 1080p - http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/21/the-ps4-version-of-final-fantasy-xiv-will-run-at-60-fps-1080p-equivalent-to-highest-pc-settings/

Blacklight Retribution: 1080p - http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/09/06/hands-on-with-blacklight-retribution-for-playstation-4/

Hohokum: 1080p - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/05/07/hohokum-coming-to-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-in-2014/

Strider: 1080p - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/10/strider-hands-on-remember-your-ninja-training/

BF4: 900p - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-vs-pc-face-off-preview

It's worth mentioning that Forza 5, while looking good, uses last-gen baked in lighting techiques which undoubtedly help it achieve its resolution and framerate. Zoo Tycoon and Lococyle...no comment. FIFA is a cross-gen game, and I expect all of the cross-gen games (sports, and AC) to be 1080p...but we await confirmation. Outside of those, we see a pretty clear pattern of sub-1080p offerings on the One...where all but one game is known to be 1080p on the PS4. Again, a very clear pattern.

This is incorrect. Most multiplats are being shown on the PS4 and the One versions have yet to be seen or talked about. This includes sports games like 2K14 and others.

I think you might have broken the poor guy.

Truth isn't supposed to break people...but if you've been eating and offering a lot of BS, it may hurt more than it should.

The Resolutionary War > Resolutiongate

Dats a lot of ownage there DV. Karma added, friend request sent.

Friend request accepted.

and I do try to be thorough.

When will this nonsense end? The Xbone is a weak console, can we get over it now and all buy PC's or PS4's?

lol, pro-tip :P

The best part about this threads is that lemming are running from it,now DF which has been posting article after article about the xbox one helping MS spread their PR now are apparently taking a turn,now all of the sudden DF find that the xbox one is under performing even below specs and the whole advantages MS claimed are no where to be found.

LOL, no

Keep on the damage control though.

I think 'resolutiongate' (lol) has less significance if you have a gaming PC. PC gamers who also play games on consoles are accustomed to consoles providing lower specs. The fact that the multiplats on Xbox One are looking like they will be inferior to their PS4 counterparts doesn't bother gaming PC owners anymore than the fact that the vast majority of PS3 multiplats had lower resolutions or worse graphics than the 360 this gen.

If you are a console only gamer, I understand the concern, and it's obvious you would want a PS4 to play multiplats, but dismissing the Xbox One entirely simply because of this one difference is unwise. Was the PS3 put out to pasture this gen because major titles looked notably worse on their hardware compared to the 360? Of course not... people consistently applauded their exclusives. The same can be said for the One. What's more, I predict that Microsoft's claims that they are improving on their ESRAM and GPU drivers is accurate, and that the multiplatform differences will be diminished over time. They may never reach parity, but the gulf will surely narrow. I know such statements are not as fun as having polarizing gloom and doom discussions, but it's a whole lot more realistic.