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#51  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@qsrtx123: Your trolling fails. 2016 is absolutely loaded for Sony. Way more games than any other console.

As to blackace Quantum Break will be another Alan Wake. Decent game, but dudebro Xboners probably won't buy it. You don't get to decide who or what is a joke. I noticed you have tried to become more manticore as the generation has progressed. Even you realized Xbox One is inferior.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

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#53  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

It is probably the favorite right now. Zelda and Mass Effect are the only serious competition I see. Naughty Dog has few true peers in this industry.

I will be shocked if doesn't score at least a 90 on Metacritic. Their lowest rated game since the PS3 era is an 88. Pure excellence.

Please tell me which games you see beating it out. Should be funny coming from a guy with Nintendo propaganda every where.

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#54  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

Yep. I agree it's probably going to be very hard for UC4 to win GOTY especially with the high expectations people have for this game compared to other 2016 games. I think ND has to literally exceed expectations for the game to have a shot at GOTY or else another game can easily take the majority of the GOTY awards next year. Other potential GOTY this year expectations are most likely high also, but not as high as UC4 from what I have seen.

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@super600 said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

Yep. I agree it's probably going to be very hard for UC4 to win GOTY especially with the high expectations people have for this game compared to other 2016 games. I think ND has to literally exceed expectations for the game to have a shot at GOTY or else another game can easily take the majority of the GOTY awards next year.

When is last you have been right about anything dealing PlayStation, games or consoles in general? You have an absolutely awful track record. And you are another Nintendo fanboy on top of that which sometimes leads to siding with Xbox for jealousy reasons.

ND has the talent and ability to meet and exceed any expectations. And they are clearly taking their time to make sure it is just right.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@super600 said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

Yep. I agree it's probably going to be very hard for UC4 to win GOTY especially with the high expectations people have for this game compared to other 2016 games. I think ND has to literally exceed expectations for the game to have a shot at GOTY or else another game can easily take the majority of the GOTY awards next year.

When is last you have been right about anything dealing PlayStation, games or consoles in general? You have an absolutely awful track record.

ND has the talent and ability to meet and exceed any expectations. And they are clearly taking their time to make sure it is just right.

Yep. I agree, but the question is will they actually be able to meet the high expectations that people have for UC4. I think that will determine if another game of their's gets a ton of GOTY awards. I think the game has a lock on GOTY nominations at this point unless the game doesn't end up being good enough to be included in next years GOTY discussions,but it is not guaranteed it will be awarded GOTY on a ton of sites yet.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

I think opinion pieces are just that and consumers will buy the product they deem has the most value to them. Period.

This. Totally agree.

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@qsrtx123 said:
@kwns said:
@gfxpipeline said:

The Xbox One is dead everywhere except the US and UK.

Developers and publishers are as expected increasingly dropping support for the dying console.

Sony's dominant first party combined with massive third party support from all three major console regions: Japan, the US, and Europe will continue to crush the Xbox One's pathetic first party and dwindling third party support.

Microsoft and Xbox fan attempts at damage control over the crap Xbox One graphics hardware: secret unrevealved graphics chips, 'the Cloud!!!', magic SDK updates are nothing but a joke and most Xbox One owners have switched to the 'we never cared about shallow things like graphics' rationalization.

The Xbox One has only sold 15 million consoles after two years which puts it almost exactly at the same sales rate the first Xbox marketplace failure had with 24.5 million consoles over 3.5 years.

Desperation price cuts, double game bundling, and massive amounts of money thrown at retailers to try to move the unwanted Xbox One units have done nothing to help sales.

The Shiny Green Power Ranger can't even get large numbers of Xbox fans to buy Microsoft's kiddie fps anymore.

Xbox fans looking for their Retarded Messiah 'Phil' to save the Xbox One are setting themselves up for nothing but bitter disappointment. Phil is the clown who just blew two billion dollars on the Fing Minecrafter developer. Boggle.

The only question left for the Xbox One disaster is how long before Microsoft dumps the system.

Everyday i find full lobbies when i go online and people are chatting having fun,. Your post is what i experience everyday haha.

I guess MS should pull the plug your insider knowledge is amazing. MS is ahead of Sony with gaming revenues in 2015 -.. Sony may catch up next year?

Of course MS is ahead in gaming revenue, they know how to turn a profit, Sony is ran by morons. It's ironic because 99% of Sony fans are also morons.

They know how to turn a profit? That's why their gaming division was in the red for a long time last gen and wouldn't be surprised if it still was this gen considering the state of the X1

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#59  Edited By tushar172787
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@vicodin said:

I love this utter delusion that poor little Microsoft suffered from some 'fumbles' during its reveal of the Xbone but they are heroically 'fighting back' and how it is now the duty of tens of millions of console gamers who never wanted the piece of junk console from Microsoft regardless to go out and buy one.

I don't know why anyone is still dumb enough to cry about 'hype' - it does nothing make it painfully obvious that you are nothing more than a butthurt fanboy who can't handle the reality that the gaming world doesn't share your crappy preferences in gaming.

@urimashkai said:

In other words, the Sky is blue, the Xbox One has better games and better games to look forward to in 2016. Sony fans know deep down that Horizon will flop, SFV will eventually go multiplat and Uncharted is going to flop since it's pretty much Uncharted 3.5 and the multiplayer will be a disaster

Quantum Break, Scalebound, ReCore and Crackdown pretty much obliterate the entire Playstation 4 lineup. Scalebound and QB will score 9's and possible a 10 while Uncharted and Horizon will score 7-8. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity would say the same thing, but Playstation can't see the truth because Sony's stomach is always in the way

@qsrtx123 said:

I'm going to laugh hard when Uncharted 4 flops for being essentially Uncharted 3.5 and gets an 8 here like Last of Fail did

2016 is going to be another dark year for the Sony Ponies, let the damage controlling commence

@gfxpipeline said:

The Xbox One is dead everywhere except the US and UK.

Developers and publishers are as expected increasingly dropping support for the dying console.

Sony's dominant first party combined with massive third party support from all three major console regions: Japan, the US, and Europe will continue to crush the Xbox One's pathetic first party and dwindling third party support.

Microsoft and Xbox fan attempts at damage control over the crap Xbox One graphics hardware: secret unrevealved graphics chips, 'the Cloud!!!', magic SDK updates are nothing but a joke and most Xbox One owners have switched to the 'we never cared about shallow things like graphics' rationalization.

The Xbox One has only sold 15 million consoles after two years which puts it almost exactly at the same sales rate the first Xbox marketplace failure had with 24.5 million consoles over 3.5 years.

Desperation price cuts, double game bundling, and massive amounts of money thrown at retailers to try to move the unwanted Xbox One units have done nothing to help sales.

The Shiny Green Power Ranger can't even get large numbers of Xbox fans to buy Microsoft's kiddie fps anymore.

Xbox fans looking for their Retarded Messiah 'Phil' to save the Xbox One are setting themselves up for nothing but bitter disappointment. Phil is the clown who just blew two billion dollars on the Fing Minecrafter developer. Boggle.

The only question left for the Xbox One disaster is how long before Microsoft dumps the system.

Desperate trolls/alts making stupid assumptions.. LOL

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This year, MS have been on the ball. It's refreshing.

I'm hoping 2016 will have them both going full tilt, and we'll get some great games to play.

How.? And with what.? how is Gears,Forza,Halo refrshing at all.? Worse the console was basically gameless for the first 7 or 8 months of 2015 if it wasn't for Ori and the blind forest lemmings would not have a thing to play on it,and even that wasn't exclusive.

Then Gear,Forza and Halo all 3 flopped not only sales wise but score wise as well,if there is one thing i would not call the xbox one is refreshing.

@delta3074 said:

'for Xbox 360 owners to already have two or three dead consoles sitting in the junk closet.'

after 2 years?

what a crock of shit quite frankly why don't you turn on your common sense chip for a moment.

the xbox 360 came with a 1 year warranty if it broke in it's first year you got it replaced for free if it broke after that you bought new one, and heres the kicker, that comes with another years warranty so after 2 years the most you would have is 2 dead consoles you fool.

did you attend maths lessons at school?

the first one you bought had a one year warranty so you are already at the end of the first year when it expires if you have to buy a new one that will come with another years warranty so when the warranty expires from that it's the two year mark.

theres no need to say anymore you have shot your own credibility to hell with a dumb statement like that.

Now i am not saying he is right but it was possible to have 3 RROD units before 2007,the xbox one didn't came with a 1 year warranty in 2005 it came with a 3 month warranty,and those were the worse models,the warranty was extended on December 2006 to 1 year to match the PS3 and wii 1 year warranty.

In other words if you bough an xbox one in November 2005,by the end of February you were out of warranty and if your unit RROD it was get a new one or pay $150 for repairs and wait for it to return,mind you those 2005 units were the very worse ones,any fat 360 can RROD my last one did and was 2010,but those 2005 were the worse,in fact the first cases of RROD happen with mountain dew winners which got their units early before even the console launch.

So it was possible to have 2 or 3 RROD units by the end of 2006 on your closet alto highly unprovable.

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-1-year/

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I'm not butthurt. dumbass, I have Uncharted 4 preordered. lol!! Everything you say is a JOKE though. Uncharted 4 won't do anything to the XB1 and neither will SFV. Quantum Break is still one of the most anticipated XB1 exclusive for 2016. Nothing Sony does will change that or how it will sell. You're just a biased fool.

That doesn't change the fact that you are a butthurt lemm.

Yeah just like Tomb Raide and Halo were and both flopped sales wise.

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Xbox, lol.

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Playstation fans are truly, without a doubt the most toxic fanbase

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People definitely bought the console off of hype. Most people buying consoles are not educated like we are here about the ins and outs of the consoles.

Do you know how many PS4's I sold to people because they thought that Star Wars Battlefront was exclusive for PS4? I still have customers tell me they want a PS4 because free online and the xbox has to be online all the time to play it.

Reality is, Sony has created a hype machine. Good for them! They'll ride this thing forever.

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@tormentos said:

How.? And with what.? how is Gears,Forza,Halo refrshing at all.? Worse the console was basically gameless for the first 7 or 8 months of 2015 if it wasn't for Ori and the blind forest lemmings would not have a thing to play on it,and even that wasn't exclusive.

Then Gear,Forza and Halo all 3 flopped not only sales wise but score wise as well,if there is one thing i would not call the xbox one is refreshing.

Don't talk to me.

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@tormentos said:

Now i am not saying he is right but it was possible to have 3 RROD units before 2007,the xbox one didn't came with a 1 year warranty in 2005 it came with a 3 month warranty,and those were the worse models,the warranty was extended on December 2006 to 1 year to match the PS3 and wii 1 year warranty.

In other words if you bough an xbox one in November 2005,by the end of February you were out of warranty and if your unit RROD it was get a new one or pay $150 for repairs and wait for it to return,mind you those 2005 units were the very worse ones,any fat 360 can RROD my last one did and was 2010,but those 2005 were the worse,in fact the first cases of RROD happen with mountain dew winners which got their units early before even the console launch.

So it was possible to have 2 or 3 RROD units by the end of 2006 on your closet alto highly unprovable.

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-extends-xbox-360-warranty-to-1-year/

A Tale of 11 Broken Xbox 360s

http://www.1up.com/news/tale-11-broken-360s

Xbox 360's were:

* Dying in massive numbers in store kiosks before launch everywhere - Xbox fans screamed sabotage by Playstation owners!

* Dying in massive numbers in game media offices before launch - Xbox fans screamed they are just demo units!

* Dying in massive numbers during the first few months after launch - Xbox fans screamed it was just the first batch, of course there's going to be problems

* Dying in massive numbers for the first couple years - Suddenly every Xbox fanboy on the Net had stories of having owned '5 PS2 which all died' - for some reason Xbox fans always made up a story of having 5.

Microsoft not only:

*Knew they had defectively designed console hardware and shipped it anyway in desperation to pad their installed base numbers before Sony launched,

* Lied about the enormity of the RRoD fiasco for the first couple years

They even went so far as to hire PR drones to sit around in gaming forums to lie about the problem to gamers which came to light when the guy hired by Microsoft(or the PR firm Microsoft hired) to work the neogaf forums came forward and admitted to him getting paid to lie after they stopped paying him.

Not only was there the insane RRoD failure fiasco leading Xbox fans to go out and buy replacement after replacement console there was:

* The PS2/Xbox era DVD drive with a crappy drive mechanism that would scratch or destroy discs

* The absurdly loud operation due to the POS last gen DVD drive spinning like mad

* Many other non-RRoD hardware failures that weren't covered by Microsoft once they finally were forced to admit the problem.

The RRoD and other hardware failures continued right up to the late model Xbox 360s with every new model leading Xbox fans to rush out and buy each new model with promises that it would finally fix the RRoD, noise, disc destroying/scratching, etc.

There never has been anything like Microsoft's hardware fiasco with the Xbox 360 and there never will be.

Anyone actually shocked at how bad the Xbox One is bombing in sales and how it amazingly is selling almost identically as badly as the first Xbox has no one but themselves to blame.

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@cohmiracleman said:

People definitely bought the console off of hype. Most people buying consoles are not educated like we are here about the ins and outs of the consoles.

Do you know how many PS4's I sold to people because they thought that Star Wars Battlefront was exclusive for PS4? I still have customers tell me they want a PS4 because free online and the xbox has to be online all the time to play it.

Reality is, Sony has created a hype machine. Good for them! They'll ride this thing forever.

We clearly have an console market scholar here.

It is obviously not the case that gamers are buying the PS4 because it is the very same Playstation brand that has been the dominant console company for the past twenty years.

Or because of the massive power advantage the PS4 has over the Xbox One.

Or because Sony doesn't drop support for their consoles and supports them for the entire 6-7 year length of a generation.

Or because Sony has the largest and most diverse first party lineup of any console maker.

Or because Sony has the largest third party support of any console maker with developers and publishers from every major market in world supporting the system.

It because of 'teh Sony hype'.

Why doesn't some Xbox fan tell Microsoft to 'hype teh Xbox'?

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#68  Edited By Shewgenja
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1. The XBONE didn't have a pot to piss in when it comes to exclusives for like the first 9 months of 2015. Y'all take extra credit points to its utmost extremes when it comes to praising the Xbox lineup.

2. The PS4 had more frequent and more exclusive games than the XBONE in 2015. Therefore, the entire assertion that the PS4 hasn't been living up to a lower bar on the Xbox is blatant admission that there's no objective means to hand XBONE a win for the year, so you're going to simply argue it's participation trophy means more to you.

3. To the guy worried about Uncharted being a 10 hour game, sit the **** down and see if you can bear Halo 5 campaign two or three times within that amount of time and then we'll talk about let-downs.

4. How many more participation trophy threads are we going to have in System Wars before y'all shut up? Is this pre-NPD damage control or am I missing something?

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

It is probably the favorite right now. Zelda and Mass Effect are the only serious competition I see. Naughty Dog has few true peers in this industry.

I will be shocked if doesn't score at least a 90 on Metacritic. Their lowest rated game since the PS3 era is an 88. Pure excellence.

Please tell me which games you see beating it out. Should be funny coming from a guy with Nintendo propaganda every where.

Last of Us got an 8 on Gamespot, Uncharted 4 will get an 8, Uncharted has been declining since UC2, 91, and then an 80 something for Golden Abyss, and even your precious Nathan Drake collection, UC4 will score in the 80's on MC people will forget it after a week. Games like QB, Deus Ex, Zelda, Mass Effect and plenty of others will be vastly superior to this generic series. Simply because they're actual games with interesting mechanics, something that Naughty Fail fails to put into their games. I'm sorry that this truth hurts but it won't change simply because of your fanboyism. Accept it and move on.

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#70  Edited By Tuiorhse
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Playstation fans are truly the most vile, putrid, delusional and disliked fanbase and this forum is one of many examples

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#71 tormentos
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@lundy86_4 said:

Don't talk to me.

Don't post here.

Also nice comback.

@tuiorhse said:

Playstation fans are truly the most vile, putrid, delusional and disliked fanbase and this forum is one of many examples

You can taste the tears on this post.

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#72 DarkrecoN
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Nothing to see here guys just your typical sony fanboys spewing your typical igorant bias bullshit

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@tormentos: truth hurts, doesn't it though .With each generation the playstation community gets worse

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@darkrecon said:

Nothing to see here guys just your typical sony fanboys spewing your typical igorant bias bullshit

Nothing to see here just a random idiot on the internet.

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#75 LJS9502_basic
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@EG101 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

I think opinion pieces are just that and consumers will buy the product they deem has the most value to them. Period.

I remember last Gen when a lot of the Cows were saying that consumers were uninformed and that's why they were buying 360's up. Now the Cows are saying the opposite.

Consumers will largely buy what friends and relatives buy. Right now there are more people buying PS4's based on it's original hype. MS has produced better games than Sony early on but No Corp knows how to create and ride a Hype Train like Sony does.

I don't care what games you guys played last gen. That is how the market works....

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#76  Edited By Shewgenja
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Yay, another participation trophy thread..

If the PS4 is all hype, but has hundreds more games than anyone else, what the **** does that say about things?

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#77  Edited By darklight4
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@cohmiracleman said:

People definitely bought the console off of hype. Most people buying consoles are not educated like we are here about the ins and outs of the consoles.

Do you know how many PS4's I sold to people because they thought that Star Wars Battlefront was exclusive for PS4? I still have customers tell me they want a PS4 because free online and the xbox has to be online all the time to play it.

Reality is, Sony has created a hype machine. Good for them! They'll ride this thing forever.

It is not hype alone there are many factors why products sell. Puplic perception, marketing, regional bias and legacy are some examples. You're not wrong about uneducated customers though I've encountered a few, mainly older parents when visiting my local game store.

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#78 DarkrecoN
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@darklight4: hit a nerve did i

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#79 darklight4
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@darkrecon said:

@darklight4: hit a nerve did i

Nah you just remind me of the crazy guy who yells at traffick. Also this is system wars not fanboy wars, don't like it leave.

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I bought the ps4 for the games, there have been 2 games I would actually buy for exclusives for xbox so far, d4 and dead rising 3, both has since gone to pc. Keep in mind I bought my ps4 the first march after release when ps4's were hard to get.

So anyway no regrets at all. The only game that seems decent coming up is scalebound, I like the actors in quantum break but it look uninspired in gameplay.

Ps4 on the other hand has nier coming, gravity rush 2, persona 5, the last guardian, horizon zero dawn, exclusives on hitman, etc etc

I made a very informed decision and I never once regretted it, as I've had my ps4 more, I've actually been more resolute with my past decision, xbox becomes less and less desirable.

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@tuiorhse: Can you read dumbass? I clearly said Metacritic. Didn't need to read the rest of your trashy response since you couldn't stay on topic.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@super600 said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@GreySeal9: When it wins GOTY you will see how stale it is.

It probably won't tho.

Yep. I agree it's probably going to be very hard for UC4 to win GOTY especially with the high expectations people have for this game compared to other 2016 games. I think ND has to literally exceed expectations for the game to have a shot at GOTY or else another game can easily take the majority of the GOTY awards next year.

And you are another Nintendo fanboy on top of that which sometimes leads to siding with Xbox for jealousy reasons.

Please tell me you actually aren't this pathetic in real life.

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Lots of crying fanboys in here being jelly of the PS4 success, lmao.

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@Blabadon: I don't sugar coat on here or in real life. I don't care what you think Blabbermouth.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Blabadon: I don't sugar coat on here or in real life. I don't care what you think Blabbermouth.

How important do you think you are?

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It is shocking to see how many Xbox fans are actually despondent over how bad the Xbox One is bombing in sales.

After the first Xbox crashed and burned and Microsoft dumped it after only 3.5 years on the market:

* Rushed the underpowered and defectively designed Xbox 360 hardware out the door a year early in the US and and year and a half early in Europe to try to pad their installed base numbers before Sony launched their console

* The Xbox 360 was 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3

* The RRoD and huge number of other hardware problems with the POS Xbox 360 hardware led to it selling tens of millions of duplicate consoles

* The weak and poorly designed Xbox 360 graphics hardware led Microsoft to get third party developers to sign 'parity clauses' in their contracts agreeing to gimp their games down to Xbox 360 level graphics and features

All of that and Microsoft still came in last place with the Xbox 360.

None of that is true with the PS4 and Xbox One:

* The Xbox One was released at the same time as the PS4 so there was no padding of its installed base before Sony launched

* The Xbox One was 100 dollars more expensive than the PS4 at launch

* The Xbox One hardware is underpowered junk but unfortunately for Microsoft there is no more RRoD and Xbox fans are only buying one console this time

* Sony finally woke up and put a stop the pathetic 'parity clauses' in third party developer contracts

Sony was going to destroy Microsoft - it has only been a question to what extent.

Now we know.