even a 96k game looks better then GEOW.

no joke. (okay so its not really a game, but a technological experiment)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger

the game is entirelly procedurally generated, so it only takes up 96k....if It were done in normal form...the game would take up 300MB.

Kinda kills the whole Idea of "Blue Ray is needed"...Hell, you dont even need DVD storage with games like this...you could run all these games off of Floppies.

Im gonna go download this....I really want to see what its like.

So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oVandalvideo

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_ocobrax25

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oVerge_6

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

That's an amazing achievement!

Where's the cows with their anti-compression argument now?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oVerge_6

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

my understanding is never.....but the technology behind it....could be used in other games.

apparently the game itself is an extreamly basic shooter....

Still, its in Beta, and Im gonna try it out when I have time.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oVandalvideo

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

...Do the devs have any plans of expanding on this in any shape or form?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oVerge_6

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

...Do the devs have any plans of expanding on this in any shape or form?

Im hoping that they will sell their technology to other developers...But I doubt they are planning to expand the game.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_ocobrax25

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

...Do the devs have any plans of expanding on this in any shape or form?

Im hoping that they will sell their technology to other developers...But I doubt they are planning to expand the game.

its already being used for Spore apparently

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]So someone else finally found out about .kkreiger. It may be one of the best looking games around, but its not oen of the most fulfilling experiences. 0_oGzus666

my understanding...is that its essencially a tech demo, for this technology they have...and not designed to really be a game it self.

What, so we can't even expect this game to come OUT?

...Do the devs have any plans of expanding on this in any shape or form?

Im hoping that they will sell their technology to other developers...But I doubt they are planning to expand the game.

its already being used for Spore apparently

I think thats something else....its being used in Spore...but not for everything.....This game is entirelly procedurally generated.....Textures and Audio included.

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]cobrax25

Im hoping that they will sell their technology to other developers...But I doubt they are planning to expand the game.

its already being used for Spore apparently

I think thats something else....its being used in Spore...but not for everything.....This game is entirelly procedurally generated.....Textures and Audio included.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_generation

its on the list of games using that same procedure, apparently it has been around for a long time, cause it was used in star control.

great achievement, but i still prefer it when artists create each individual detail in a game

good examples are GTA, Metroid Prime, Zelda TP .. the detail is amazing and really adds to the atmosphere

great achievement, but i still prefer it when artists create each individual detail in a game

good examples are GTA, Metroid Prime, Zelda TP .. the detail is amazing and really adds to the atmosphere

akif22

all of those have pretty sad graphics compared to all the other games coming out, and to that game he showed.

Like others said, great achievement, but it still doesn't look better than Gears, or even Resistance. And just because the textures look amazing, doesn't mean everything else doesn't suck big time.

But still to get that all into 96kb? Very impressive though, that can't be denied.

That's an amazing achievement!

Where's the cows with their anti-compression argument now?

rhaigun

This doesnt have anything to do with Compression...Everything in this game, is generated by the CPU, rather then pre-made by artists....including audio.

I tried it, and it was kind of a mess. :S Don't believe me? Your choice.wapahala

I tried it, and it was kind of a mess. :S Don't believe me? Your choice.wapahala

again....it was never designed to be a good game, but a demonstration of the technology behind it.

[QUOTE="wapahala"]I tried it, and it was kind of a mess. :S Don't believe me? Your choice.Vandalvideo

Thepointofthegameisto prove that you can make something this great-looking andturnitintosomethingthat takes no space at all..ItwontheBreakpointcontestin2004.

For 96K that is absoloutely god like.

That's an amazing achievement!

Where's the cows with their anti-compression argument now?

rhaigun

Kkrieger doesn't use any compression, cept the one that packed the code into .exe eg. a compiler. Why this game demonstration uses so little space is simple (to explain). Everything in that game is procedurally generated, from textures, models, levels - this means that the levels, weapons, textures, lighting don't exsist until you tun the .exe file, then everything is generated.

It's an awesome method, but it's way to hard to programm something like this decently - or better yet, the time to money investment is not yet there. It will be fun in the future tho :).

Yeah it sure is impressive, I've been using procedural synthesis in arguements about BR vs. DVD9 for a while. And considering sooner or later MS is going to put it into XNA to the point where all 360 games would be compressed like .kkrieger I think the 360 might be able to go back to using CD-ROMs for the 360 in a year or two.PBSnipes

The game is not compressed at all...It doesnt even install itself....its just a single executable file.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Yeah it sure is impressive, I've been using procedural synthesis in arguements about BR vs. DVD9 for a while. And considering sooner or later MS is going to put it into XNA to the point where all 360 games would be compressed like .kkrieger I think the 360 might be able to go back to using CD-ROMs for the 360 in a year or two.cobrax25

The game is not compressed at all...It doesnt even install itself....its just a single executable file.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Yeah it sure is impressive, I've been using procedural synthesis in arguements about BR vs. DVD9 for a while. And considering sooner or later MS is going to put it into XNA to the point where all 360 games would be compressed like .kkrieger I think the 360 might be able to go back to using CD-ROMs for the 360 in a year or two.PBSnipes

The game is not compressed at all...It doesnt even install itself....its just a single executable file.

I doubt it....games running entirely off this technology wont start being made for many many years.

It's an awful game, I'm not going to lie, and it doesn't look like that on my PC.project343

It looks that good, and dude, give it a break, its friggin 96k (1k is on the text file)

noS1xSh0t

Okay, just finished playing the game (yeah, it's over quickly) and I can safely say that this isn't anywhere near as good looking as Gears. There are some decent textures here and there but the visuals are as a whole unimpressive compared to Gears and the games I'm accustomed to playing.

The gameplay is archaic, reminicent of FPS games circa 1995. With the proper polish, this could be impressive, but as a whole, it looks and plays like a glorified tech demo. But then again, that's all it's meant to be so I can't really fault it there.

Looks alot like Painkiller(PC) to me. I would not say itlooks better than GeoW.neogeo419

Painkiller is almost devoud of graphical effects, the strength lies in its EXCELLENT texture work, either way, HL2 on an FX looks very similar

Yes, I played it. I feel its texture in veryhigh detail. Wonderful! This maybe helpful for 360.