Even if you hate the Wii, you have to admit that motion sensing is a big step

Yes, I know that there are a lot of haters here, but one day, all of you, will realize that motion sensing is the future.

In 1985, we introduced to one of the greatest games of all time. We played the same type of these games for years, but in 1996, Nintendo brought out Super Mario 64 with perfect use of the analog stick and amazing level design. We had depth to our games. 3D and the analog stick were amazing innovations in the gaming industry, as well as discs and rumble.

Of course, these didn't always start out too well. Some of these things were called "gimmicks." The Wii Remote is not a gimmick. It's bring a whole new level of immersion to our games. I'm sure that you don't game as much as you used to. Well, games get tiring when there's really nothing all that new and exciting. The Wii Remote offers something different. A different, original experience. Zack and Wiki could not have been done on any other console. The finishing blows in No More Heroes made it that much more fun. The little touches with Wii Remote in Super Mario Galaxy were good and not abused. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 makes dual analog very hard to use.

Now, you might say, "Pffft! A few good games can't compensate for all of the other games with gimmicky controls." The DS had games that did not utilize the touch screen well, but eventually, we got some amazing titles that really shows what the DS is capable of, like Elite Beat Agents, Big Brain Academy, Brain Age, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Jam Sessions, Metroid Prime: Hunters, and a lot more. Give the developers time. It's something new, and Wii Ware is really going to help out.

Let's look at some successful titles: Guitar Hero, DDR, Samba De Amigo. What do all of those games have in common? Oh yeah, they all use a unique control scheme that enchances the experience.

Aren't you getting tired of the same rehashed game play? Isn't it time for something "new?" Something different? Wii will innovative. Wii will revolutionize. Wii will not only play games... but experience them.

So what's your thoughts on this? Is motion sensing the future? Or is it a plain disgrace to gaming?

So what's your thoughts on this? Is motion sensing the future? Or is it a plain disgrace to gaming?

DeathScape666

considering most titles on the wii are hit or miss, make a game sometimes worse or could just be plain better with a traditional controller, i'd say the wii hasn't done much to "revolutionize" anything.

this is just my opinion though tbqh

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

evilross

So you think video games will be using traditional controllers FOREVER? Face it, it will CHANGE.

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So what's your thoughts on this? Is motion sensing the future? Or is it a plain disgrace to gaming?

II-FBIsniper-II

So you don't really think it's ruining the gaming industry, but you don't think it is going to shape the future, either?

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

evilross

What if you could have both, IE not the Wii but Wii like controls, with all those things? Would crisis with motion controls be terrible?

No. i don't.

What IS a big step is that people like my mom and little sister are now interested in video games because they think motion sensing is a big step.

Don't really care for it, and it's not a big step in any direction; it doesn't change anything.

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

evilross

Motion Sensing isnt anything new, third party PS1 controllers had motion sensing, and I believe Microsoft released a motion sensing controller back in the 90'sEVOLV3

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

evilross

None of those have anything to do with a controller. They have to do with how much effort a dev is willing to put into a game and weither or not they even want to make a narrative game to begin with.

Motion sensing is not really all that new, technology wise, and with the current state of how it is being used, it is little more than a gimmick. Now, when they find some way to incorporate something along the lines of force feedback into a handheld device, such as Novint has done with their Falcon peripheral, then it might be something that could be considered immersive.

At the moment, the wiimote is little more than a 3d mouse.

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Motion Sensing isnt anything new, third party PS1 controllers had motion sensing, and I believe Microsoft released a motion sensing controller back in the 90'sCan-o-Mark

motion strted on atari

[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Motion Sensing isnt anything new, third party PS1 controllers had motion sensing, and I believe Microsoft released a motion sensing controller back in the 90'sadmir1983

motion strted on atari

Really? What was that?

If motion control was done for a console I respect (360/PS3/PC), and the idea worked arguably well with the games, then I could take a serious look at the pros and cons of motion sensing, and where it might go in the future.

But as long as it stays with the Wii I can't really judge potential.

Actually I like the Wii, and think that motion sensing is more gimmicky than useful. I've played games wondering if it really adds anything, or even wishing it wasn't there (or I had another option).

That's what I admit.

The fact is for most games a regular controller still works best; even on Wii. I think motion controls are fun for certain games, but overall I still prefer a standard controller. I think Sony has it right by implementing motion controls into a standard controller. It gives developers both options.

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[QUOTE="Can-o-Mark"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Motion Sensing isnt anything new, third party PS1 controllers had motion sensing, and I believe Microsoft released a motion sensing controller back in the 90'sCan-o-Mark

motion strted on atari

Really? What was that?

Le or La stick don't know the name exactly read it somewhere before the wii came out 4 years ago or so

Not a fan of the motion controls..and it makes my arms get tired.

TC, your poll is flawed. It should have the following option:

-Motion sensing in the wii is a huge step, but the wii doesn't execute it right

That is exactly what has happened, imho. I own a wii and I love things on it that really use the motion sensing a lot, things like wiisports for example. The problem is that there is almost no precision in the motion sensing and a lot of the time it fails to register movements. That's why the best uses of motion sensing thus far make sure to separate the motion sensing from the actual gameplay, so its used just for kicks. Zack & Wiki and No More Heroes feel great, but both have to have these pauses where you can do some motions and then get back to the game afterwards. Wiiboxing shows how imprecise the motions are (although I really, really love wiiboxing)

The biggest advance in the wii is not the motion sensing btw. It's the infrared pointer. Pointing at the tv to interact with the game is not only really fun, it is one of the biggest innovations in gaming ever. What rivals it, other than those early base techs that started it all? Best of all, it is actually executed extremely well. It only bugs out if you mess with the infrared (sunlight will screw it up). Motion sensing was supposed to be the perfect addition to nintendo's new philosophy of interacting with the television, but like I said, it isn't executed nearly as well as the IR pointer

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Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

goblaa

None of those have anything to do with a controller. They have to do with how much effort a dev is willing to put into a game and weither or not they even want to make a narrative game to begin with.

Thank you for pointing this out

Does anybody really think, "14 buttons on this controller must mean I am having an engaging story with gameplay that makes think about the sequence of buttons I am pushing! Yes! And if can remember that code--was it 43 or 47 button presses?--I can enable the realistic gravity!"

N64 didn't create 3D games Sonic-3D was on the Sega Genesis although I'm not sure if that was the first 3D game either. I thought the guns in games like House of the Dead were more innovating than the Wii control however the control does have its appeal and can be fun and useful in some games. The Wii simply needs more games where people would want to use that control rather than the GC one.Mongo-Boss

Well, Super Mario 64 was the first 3D game to be considered good. It basically defined the 3D platforming genre.

So far the Wii hasnt proven itself enough for a majority of the genres out there. I'd rather play Devil May Cry 4 with the regular controller and not the motion controller. Look how awful it is in Soul Calibur Legends. It's just annoying.

Sports and fighters, nope. No motion sensing needed. The only one I'll give it is for SMG and party games. Other than that, there's no reason to care about motion sensing. I'd never want to play Bioshock or Gears of War with a Wii-mote.

So far the Wii hasnt proven itself enough for a majority of the genres out there. I'd rather play Devil May Cry 4 with the regular controller and not the motion controller. Look how awful it is in Soul Calibur Legends. It's just annoying.

Sports and fighters, nope. No motion sensing needed. The only one I'll give it is for SMG and party games. Other than that, there's no reason to care about motion sensing. I'd never want to play Bioshock or Gears of War with a Wii-mote.

PhoebusFlows

Gears and Bioshock would be awesome with a wii remote :o

Yes it is a big step. backward.

Simple controls and simple games for simple minds. Forget about deep engaging storylines, thought-provoking gameplay, vastly improved artificial intellegence, cutting edge graphics and art, and realistic physics and world design.

Just wiggle and waggle and play pass-time games.

evilross

They're not simple. That's why they're not usually done well.

Wii and 360 both have (at least): 1 analog stick, 1 d-pad, 8 buttons. Although, it's harder to get at some Wii buttons during play.

360 then has 1 extra stick, 2 analog triggers, 2 more gameplay buttons. (Back and start. Already counted the stick-clicks.)

Wii then has 2 analog roll-pitch-yaw, 1 analog x-y-z space.

Not that different in complexity - it just requires a rethink of applications.

So far the Wii hasnt proven itself enough for a majority of the genres out there. I'd rather play Devil May Cry 4 with the regular controller and not the motion controller. Look how awful it is in Soul Calibur Legends. It's just annoying.

PhoebusFlows

Sports and fighters, nope. No motion sensing needed.PhoebusFlows

The only one I'll give it is for SMG and party games. Other than that, there's no reason to care about motion sensing. I'd never want to play Bioshock or Gears of War with a Wii-mote.

PhoebusFlows

Try playing Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 or Metroid Prime 3, their controls are far better than traditional shooter controls.

its a gimick. motion sensing has so far been swap a button with shake. pointing is just the mouse on a console.Warped_Creation

What console has ever used a mouse for a majority of their games :?. Apart from PC

[QUOTE="Warped_Creation"]its a gimick. motion sensing has so far been swap a button with shake. pointing is just the mouse on a console.monkeysrfat

What console has ever used a mouse for a majority of their games :?. Apart from PC

Motion sensing, apart from wii sports have proven not to be too effective. What has been great is the pointer. The motion sensing is useful sometimes, but the pointer has been great as well as the tilt feature for games like super monkey ball.monkeysrfat

You should try Zack and Wiki decent use of the Wii Remote...

When used correctly it can be done well.... try MOH Heroes2 and Zack and Wiki

One question to people who don't like the Wii, how would you of reacted if Sony or MS used this type of controller, I have a feeling you would of said this is a complete revolution for gaming...

Anyway whats with trying something new and which is more appealing to bigger audience? I actually enjoy playing the Wii with friends and famaily who wouldn't touch a console b4 the Wii!

Yes, I know that there are a lot of haters here, but one day, all of you, will realize that motion sensing is the future.

In 1985, we introduced to one of the greatest games of all time. We played the same type of these games for years, but in 1996, Nintendo brought out Super Mario 64 with perfect use of the analog stick and amazing level design. We had depth to our games. 3D and the analog stick were amazing innovations in the gaming industry, as well as discs and rumble.

Of course, these didn't always start out too well. Some of these things were called "gimmicks." The Wii Remote is not a gimmick. It's bring a whole new level of immersion to our games. I'm sure that you don't game as much as you used to. Well, games get tiring when there's really nothing all that new and exciting. The Wii Remote offers something different. A different, original experience. Zack and Wiki could not have been done on any other console. The finishing blows in No More Heroes made it that much more fun. The little touches with Wii Remote in Super Mario Galaxy were good and not abused. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 makes dual analog very hard to use.

Now, you might say, "Pffft! A few good games can't compensate for all of the other games with gimmicky controls." The DS had games that did not utilize the touch screen well, but eventually, we got some amazing titles that really shows what the DS is capable of, like Elite Beat Agents, Big Brain Academy, Brain Age, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Jam Sessions, Metroid Prime: Hunters, and a lot more. Give the developers time. It's something new, and Wii Ware is really going to help out.

Let's look at some successful titles: Guitar Hero, DDR, Samba De Amigo. What do all of those games have in common? Oh yeah, they all use a unique control scheme that enchances the experience.

Aren't you getting tired of the same rehashed game play? Isn't it time for something "new?" Something different? Wii will innovative. Wii will revolutionize. Wii will not only play games... but experience them.

So what's your thoughts on this? Is motion sensing the future? Or is it a plain disgrace to gaming?

DeathScape666

Actually, the whole gyroscopic whatever was used for games by Microsoft a few years before the Wii was even released. Suffice to say, after the initial buzz, it faded out very quickly. This was pretty much due to lack of fulfilling expectations, much like the Wii. The factis, there is only so much you can do with that motion control with the power of a glorified gamecube. Maybe if they had included some powerful hardware, then there would be some large enough scope to capitalise on this new mechanic, but there isn't so all this potential is going to be wasted on games that are nowhere as good as they could be.

[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"]Motion sensing, apart from wii sports have proven not to be too effective. What has been great is the pointer. The motion sensing is useful sometimes, but the pointer has been great as well as the tilt feature for games like super monkey ball.bf2nutta

You should try Zack and Wiki decent use of the Wii Remote...

When used correctly it can be done well.... try MOH Heroes2 and Zack and Wiki

One question to people who don't like the Wii, how would you of reacted if Sony or MS used this type of controller, I have a feeling you would of said this is a complete revolution for gaming...

Anyway whats with trying something new and which is more appealing to bigger audience? I actually enjoy playing the Wii with friends and famaily who wouldn't touch a console b4 the Wii!

...Why are you assuming I don't like the wii?