'Everyone will play FF13 on ps3..so meh *wipes shoulders* '-Sony

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#1 Angakua
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speaking to MTV Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of Americawas asked about his reaction and the impact of FF13 going multiplatform...

Multiplayer: You guys talked about exclusives. And there's a lot of really cool exclusives coming out. But I wanted to talk to you about an exclusive that's no longer an exclusive, and that's "Final Fantasy XIII." Microsoft made a whole big deal about it. They showed it at the end of their press conference as their big surprise. You guys are saying exclusives are really important. So does not having "Final Fantasy XIII" anymore just for PS3 hurt you guys?

Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of America:What you have with "Final Fantasy XIII" is a lot like what they've paid for with "GTA." It's not an exclusive on their platform. It's now a cross-platform game. and I think if you look at how "GTA" behaved in the marketplace and how it droveor didn't drive — either console, that's what I'm talking about. Consumers responded to "GTA" on the PS3 just as they did on the 360. And it becomes a bit of a jump ball. But it didn't rise the tide for them. And I think if you fast forward to when "Final Fantasy XIII" comes out I think you're going to have millions of people who grew up playing "Final Fantasy" on the PlayStation playing it on a PlayStation 3. They spent a lot of money I'm sure, to get "Final Fantasy" onto the 360 but at the end of the day it's on our platform as well. Which is why we focus on, "Let's look at what happens when we have "Metal Gear Solid" on our platform … when the NPD numbers come out … I think you'll see the value of what a real exclusive title does and how it raised the bar for PS3 versus 360.

.......FIGHT !!!

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#2 waynehead895
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Playing on 360. He must've left me out.
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#3 Coyo7e
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Any attempt to damage control the loss of FF13 exclusivity, by anyone, comes off as funny to me.
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#4 Dante2710
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good damage control there sony
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#6 gamefreakomega
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I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.
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#7 DireToad
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I don't see anything wrong or incorrect with what he said.

There is nothing inflammatory about it either.
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#8 pminooei
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microsoft payed for GTA 4 to be multiplate but rockstar announced a exclusive game for PS3 using the money microsoft paid i think, but when microsoft payed for FF13 square enix didn't announce any exclusive game coming out for PS3. thats the bad news i guess :P but i'm not sure

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#9 hayato_
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Playing on 360. He must've left me out.waynehead895

I'll have my 360 soon. Next year to be exact if SO 4 stays exclusive

But Im still buying it for my PS3. He alittle right.

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#10 CajunShooter
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Final Fantasy XIII will sell well on the 360, but like he said it won't move that many consoles for Microsoft such as what Metal Gear Solid IV did for the PS3.

He didn't say anything that wasn't true.

By the time Final Fantasy comes out the 360 will go back to the $350 price mark and the 80GB PS3 will be at the $400 price mark, so when a true die hard Final Fantasy fan looks at which console to buy they may actually go with the PS3 because Versus XIII is still exclusive.

Final Fantasy XIII will sell well on the 360 in fact probably close to if not better than the PS3 version because of the larger install base. But it isn't going to move a hell of a lot of 360s because it is now a multiplat. Had it been exclusive then yes it would move the consoles.

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#11 Coyo7e
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I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.gamefreakomega

I despise ff12. If FF13 is not a lot better for me personally, the series will be dead in my eyes.

P.S. as of now I still plan on playing the ps3 version.

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I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.gamefreakomega
The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:
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microsoft payed for GTA 4 to be multiplate but rockstar announced a exclusive game for PS3 using the money microsoft paid i think, but when microsoft for FF13 square enix didn't announce any exclusive game coming out for PS3. thats the bad news i guess :P but i'm not sure

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Nomura has a big announcement soon. Maybe his new game is PS3 exclusive.

Versus XIII is still exclusive also.

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#14 Angakua
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[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.Coyo7e

I despise ff12. If FF13 is not a lot better for me personally, the series will be dead in my eyes.

P.S. as of now I still plan on playing the ps3 version.

yeah...someone said it best "FF12 is like playing an MMO offline"...it was a grindfest..

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[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.waynehead895
The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:

you missed that part

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I guess Sony is giving out free PS3s with final fantasy then cause that's the only way I'll buy it over the 360 version.
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I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

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#18 Trelaf_TheWise
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FF13 will sell 2 million units on the 360. You can quote me on that.
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[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.waynehead895
The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:

I was thinking the very same thing.... Weird.
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I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

jg4xchamp

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

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[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.Angakua

I despise ff12. If FF13 is not a lot better for me personally, the series will be dead in my eyes.

P.S. as of now I still plan on playing the ps3 version.

yeah...someone said it best "FF12 is like playing an MMO offline"...it was a grindfest..

Wow, the gameplay was what saved FF12 for me. Pretty much everything else about it was mediocre.

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#22 hayato_
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FF13 will sell 2 million units on the 360. You can quote me on that.Trelaf_TheWise

Maybe, I expect

PS3 : 3.5 (Its exclsuive in Japan and they love Final Fantasy.)

360: 1.9

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speaking to MTV Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of Americawas asked about his reaction and the impact of FF13 going multiplatform...

Multiplayer: You guys talked about exclusives. And there's a lot of really cool exclusives coming out. But I wanted to talk to you about an exclusive that's no longer an exclusive, and that's "Final Fantasy XIII." Microsoft made a whole big deal about it. They showed it at the end of their press conference as their big surprise. You guys are saying exclusives are really important. So does not having "Final Fantasy XIII" anymore just for PS3 hurt you guys?

Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of America:What you have with "Final Fantasy XIII" is a lot like what they've paid for with "GTA." It's not an exclusive on their platform. It's now a cross-platform game. and I think if you look at how "GTA" behaved in the marketplace and how it droveor didn't drive — either console, that's what I'm talking about. Consumers responded to "GTA" on the PS3 just as they did on the 360. And it becomes a bit of a jump ball. But it didn't rise the tide for them. And I think if you fast forward to when "Final Fantasy XIII" comes out I think you're going to have millions of people who grew up playing "Final Fantasy" on the PlayStation playing it on a PlayStation 3. They spent a lot of money I'm sure, to get "Final Fantasy" onto the 360 but at the end of the day it's on our platform as well. Which is why we focus on, "Let's look at what happens when we have "Metal Gear Solid" on our platform … when the NPD numbers come out … I think you'll see the value of what a real exclusive title does and how it raised the bar for PS3 versus 360.

.......FIGHT !!!

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Angakua
Most 360 owners will play it on the 360. PS3 'only' owners will play it on ps3. In the end, Sony loses any chance they had for sales spike from that game. Consider that sales spike nullified.
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[QUOTE="pminooei"]

microsoft payed for GTA 4 to be multiplate but rockstar announced a exclusive game for PS3 using the money microsoft paid i think, but when microsoft for FF13 square enix didn't announce any exclusive game coming out for PS3. thats the bad news i guess :P but i'm not sure

hayato_

Nomura has a big announcement soon. Maybe his new game is PS3 exclusive.

Versus XIII is still exclusive also.

How funny would it be if Versus got 9.0 or higher here while FFXIII got an 8.0 or lower?
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I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.gamefreakomega

I think he was referring to the people who assumed FFXIII would be exclusive and bought a PS3 for it down the line, and I think a lot of the die hard fans who are also pretty avid gamers who needed a next gen system probably did.

That said I don't think the topic reflects what the guy is saying. He's saying FFXIII won't help PS3 sales but it won't help 360 sales either, which in and of itself implies a shot to Sony, because if it had been exclusive, it would be the next MGS4 booster to PS3 sales. I wouldn't argue with this...

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regardless of what sony says or wants FF is gonna make money on both they just want to try and keep the series exclusive but ist not gonna happen dev costs are only going up and i know plenty of 360 gamers that are hyped for this.
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.hayato_

The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:

you missed that part

So... it started on NES right, and there were some on SNES right... So didn't some people grow up playing on Nintendo consoles?
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[QUOTE="Angakua"]

speaking to MTV Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of Americawas asked about his reaction and the impact of FF13 going multiplatform...

Multiplayer: You guys talked about exclusives. And there's a lot of really cool exclusives coming out. But I wanted to talk to you about an exclusive that's no longer an exclusive, and that's "Final Fantasy XIII." Microsoft made a whole big deal about it. They showed it at the end of their press conference as their big surprise. You guys are saying exclusives are really important. So does not having "Final Fantasy XIII" anymore just for PS3 hurt you guys?

Peter Dille, Vice President, Sony Computer Entertainment of America:What you have with "Final Fantasy XIII" is a lot like what they've paid for with "GTA." It's not an exclusive on their platform. It's now a cross-platform game. and I think if you look at how "GTA" behaved in the marketplace and how it droveor didn't drive — either console, that's what I'm talking about. Consumers responded to "GTA" on the PS3 just as they did on the 360. And it becomes a bit of a jump ball. But it didn't rise the tide for them. And I think if you fast forward to when "Final Fantasy XIII" comes out I think you're going to have millions of people who grew up playing "Final Fantasy" on the PlayStation playing it on a PlayStation 3. They spent a lot of money I'm sure, to get "Final Fantasy" onto the 360 but at the end of the day it's on our platform as well. Which is why we focus on, "Let's look at what happens when we have "Metal Gear Solid" on our platform … when the NPD numbers come out … I think you'll see the value of what a real exclusive title does and how it raised the bar for PS3 versus 360.

.......FIGHT !!!

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Cipher92
Most 360 owners will play it on the 360. PS3 'only' owners will play it on ps3. In the end, Sony loses any chance they had for sales spike from that game. Consider that sales spike nullified.




You forgot Japan and Europe.
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well hes right, no one really bought the game for either system because of dlc coming over 1 year later, they just wanted the game now, exclusive dlc does not drive sales at all
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It's the equivalent of being kicked in the nuts with a steel toe boot and saying:

"That didn't hurt"

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

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I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

CajunShooter

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

That was never Microsoft's intention. They just wanted to take away sales from the PS3, and they did that...atleast out of Japan. I still think the PS3 version will sell much more, but it will only sell systems in Japan.

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It's the equivalent of being kicked in the nuts with a steel toe boot and saying:

"That didn't hurt"

heretrix
What if you're wearing a cup?
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.waynehead895

The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:

you missed that part

So... it started on NES right, and there were some on SNES right... So didn't some people grow up playing on Nintendo consoles?




People grow up all the time didn't you know?

But realistically, FF really got big with 7 and so I think it's fair to say that a lot more people grew up playing the franchise on Playstation.
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Any attempt to damage control the loss of FF13 exclusivity, by anyone, comes off as funny to me.Coyo7e

Yup. Personally, I'm gonna buy it on the system that gives me more; I got GTAIV on the 360 because I want the option to get the DLC, and I bought Stranglehold on the PS3 because it got me Hard Boiled in HD. If FFXIII is significantly better on the PS3, I'll get it there, but if it's not, I'll probably just buy it for whichever one I don't have a game for at that moment. People who buy games on a certain system just because they always have are missing the point.

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Failed logic by Sony. Sure most people will probably buy it for PS3 if they have both consoles. However, if they only have a 360, there is really no chance that they would buy a PS3 just so they could play it on a Playstation platform. The point is, this move strongly hurt the movement of PS3 consoles IMO.
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.waynehead895

The first 6 were on Nintendo consoles right? :lol:

you missed that part

So... it started on NES right, and there were some on SNES right... So didn't some people grow up playing on Nintendo consoles?

I didn't. First one was Final Fantasy VII. Then I tried out the other ones before that. A friend introduced me to the series, so I started on the PS. Im still gonna buy the PS3 version. Im getting a 360 soon, but only for SO 4 (if it stays exclusive). Point, some people didn't start gaming it till the PS era. Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

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I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

Kahuna_1

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

That was never Microsoft's intention. They just wanted to take away sales from the PS3, and they did that...atleast out of Japan. I still think the PS3 version will sell much more, but it will only sell systems in Japan.

What?

How can you say that Microsoft's intention in getting FF13 multiplat wasn't to sell consoles? That's the motivation behind pretty much everything they do. I think they're a little more concerned with making money for themselves rather than making Sony lose any.

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He said GTA was a jump ball, but it would have been a shutout if MS didn't get a hold of it. Same thing with this, he looks at it as being equal, but MS is gaining because they are not losing anything by getting it to go multiplat, sony is losing would be customers and they call it square. Nice :)
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[QUOTE="Angakua"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.gamefreakomega

I despise ff12. If FF13 is not a lot better for me personally, the series will be dead in my eyes.

P.S. as of now I still plan on playing the ps3 version.

yeah...someone said it best "FF12 is like playing an MMO offline"...it was a grindfest..

Wow, the gameplay was what saved FF12 for me. Pretty much everything else about it was mediocre.

i'm not bashing the "gameplay" but the amount that i had to grind in the game..and honestly they suffered alot since sakaguchi left then another lead member left in between so they were baffled and confused..

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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

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Achievements/Gamerscore

I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

gamefreakomega

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

That was never Microsoft's intention. They just wanted to take away sales from the PS3, and they did that...atleast out of Japan. I still think the PS3 version will sell much more, but it will only sell systems in Japan.

What?

How can you say that Microsoft's intention in getting FF13 multiplat wasn't to sell consoles? That's the motivation behind pretty much everything they do. I think they're a little more concerned with making money for themselves rather than making Sony lose any.

Why isn't it coming out in Japan then??? They need it there the most.
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

Multiplat
Primary COnsole for me is 360
Achievements/Gamerscore

I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

gamefreakomega

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

That was never Microsoft's intention. They just wanted to take away sales from the PS3, and they did that...atleast out of Japan. I still think the PS3 version will sell much more, but it will only sell systems in Japan.

What?

How can you say that Microsoft's intention in getting FF13 multiplat wasn't to sell consoles? That's the motivation behind pretty much everything they do. I think they're a little more concerned with making money for themselves rather than making Sony lose any.

Getting the game in regions where they are doing fine is not going to drive sales...GTA4 flopped at doing that, FF13 will be no different. Multiplat games do not drive console sales, they took away the exclusive so now Sony cannot get a boost outside of Japan. MS gave up in Japan so their goal is to try and hurt Sony's sales because they feel their upcoming exclusives will be enough to hold Sony off in US/EU. With FF multiplat, Sony is going to hurt.

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#42 naruto7777
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they will sell on the 360
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#43 club-sandwich
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Playing on 360. He must've left me out.waynehead895
same here.
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#44 gamefreakomega
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Why isn;t it coming out in Japan then??? They need it there the most.hayato_

It's not coming out in Japan because at this point there's pretty much no chance of MS doing well there and releasing it on the 360 there would be a waste of resources for Square.

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#45 DonPerian
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Playing on 360. He must've left me out.waynehead895

Same here.

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#46 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"] Why isn;t it coming out in Japan then??? They need it there the most.gamefreakomega

It's not coming out in Japan because at this point there's pretty much no chance of MS doing well there and releasing it on the 360 there would be a waste of resources for Square.

I would believe you if only it wasn't for all the JRPG support the console has been getting lately. Think about it

360:

Last Remnant
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Lost Oddesey
Infinte Undiscovery
Final Fantasy XIII
Tales of Vesperia

Who wouldn't choose that??? If your an RPG fan.

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#47 DireToad
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We don't even know if one version will be better than the other yet.
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#48 gamefreakomega
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Getting the game in regions where they are doing fine is not going to drive sales...GTA4 flopped at doing that, FF13 will be no different. Multiplat games do not drive console sales, they took away the exclusive so now Sony cannot get a boost outside of Japan. MS gave up in Japan so their goal is to try and hurt Sony's sales because they feel their upcoming exclusives will be enough to hold Sony off in US/EU. With FF multiplat, Sony is going to hurt.

Kahuna_1

MS is a business. Why do fine when you can do better? FF13 will help them to do better by giving people who don't already own a console the option to purchase a 360 and FF13 instead of a PS3 and FF13.

It probably won't give them a huge boost in sales but as long as it sells 360s then the move was a success. Hurting Sony doesn't really help MS. It's not like losing FF13 as an exclusive is going to drive them out of business.

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#49 FF6fan
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[QUOTE="hayato_"] Why isn;t it coming out in Japan then??? They need it there the most.gamefreakomega

It's not coming out in Japan because at this point there's pretty much no chance of MS doing well there and releasing it on the 360 there would be a waste of resources for Square.

That and it would piss off the Japanese population to hear their version of the game is being delayed because an american company wants it on their system.
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#50 Lab392
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Ugh, from here on out, Jack Tretton is the only Sony Computer Entertainment employee that should be allowed to speak.