'Everyone will play FF13 on ps3..so meh *wipes shoulders* '-Sony

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Getting the game in regions where they are doing fine is not going to drive sales...GTA4 flopped at doing that, FF13 will be no different. Multiplat games do not drive console sales, they took away the exclusive so now Sony cannot get a boost outside of Japan. MS gave up in Japan so their goal is to try and hurt Sony's sales because they feel their upcoming exclusives will be enough to hold Sony off in US/EU. With FF multiplat, Sony is going to hurt.

gamefreakomega

MS is a business. Why do fine when you can do better? FF13 will help them to do better by giving people who don't already own a console the option to purchase a 360 and FF13 instead of a PS3 and FF13.

It probably won't give them a huge boost in sales but as long as it sells 360s then the move was a success. Hurting Sony doesn't really help MS. It's not like losing FF13 as an exclusive is going to drive them out of business.

Yeah and because the game is multiplat it will not move systems. Of course it will sell on the 360 about 5 million people are going to buy it across both platforms plus games sell more in the US on 360. And MS does want to hurt Sony's sales otherwise they would not have bothered to spend x amount of money to make FF13 multiplat. FF13 is going to cost Sony around 1 million extra sold systems in 09 which I think is a big deal.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's the equivalent of being kicked in the nuts with a steel toe boot and saying:

"That didn't hurt"

nervmeister

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]

[QUOTE="hayato_"] Why isn;t it coming out in Japan then??? They need it there the most.hayato_

It's not coming out in Japan because at this point there's pretty much no chance of MS doing well there and releasing it on the 360 there would be a waste of resources for Square.

I would believe you if only it wasn't for all the JRPG support the console has been getting lately. Think about it

360:

Last Remnant
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Lost Oddesey
Infinte Undiscovery
Final Fantasy XIII
Tales of Vesperia

Who wouldn't choose that??? If your an RPG fan.

Yeah, those games all look promising, and Lost Oddyssey was good, but it doesn't change the fact that the 360 isn't doing well enough in Japan for Square to think it's a good idea to release FF13 on it there.

Ugh, from here on out, Jack Tretton is the only Sony Computer Entertainment employee that should be allowed to speak.Lab392

The same guy who got owned almost out of existence with this PS3 launch quote: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/10/sonys-jack-tretton-and-the-1200-quote/ ?

Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????hayato_

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

[QUOTE="Lab392"]Ugh, from here on out, Jack Tretton is the only Sony Computer Entertainment employee that should be allowed to speak.SeanBond

The same guy who got owned almost out of existence with this PS3 launch quote: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/10/sonys-jack-tretton-and-the-1200-quote/ ?

*retracts my former statement*

No one at SCE should be allowed to speak.

Now that you think about it, you can see why Sony didn't change their controller:

Because teh people grew up playing FF on teh playstation!

They saw this coming and prepared before release.

Although I'm not a fan of monopolies, at this point I almost wouldn't mind there being a one-console market, because the multiplat situation is getting severly out of hand. I'm tired of having to research which system to buy games for, and I'm almost tired of seeing certain games come out for one system, only to be improved 6 months to a year later on another. I understand all these companies want to make money, so multiplats make the most sense, but it's starting to get extremely boring from a diversity standpoint.

That being said, if the Wii were to be the only console on the market, I'd kill myself, so I should probably watch what I wish for.

[QUOTE="hayato_"]Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????Blackbond

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

I think the remakes have been a little overdone also, but think about it. I loved FF IV and VI and probably wouldn't have gotten ahold of them if they didn't. FF didn't get really big till FF VII IMO. Some people might not have gotten to exprience the games as they were back then.

Chrono Trigger to btw. ( I have the Finfal Fantasy Chronicles which I love to this day)

[QUOTE="hayato_"]Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????Blackbond

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="hayato_"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.hayato_

you missed that part

All the remakes they have been making were originally for the NES and SNES and being remade for the DS. There are no remakes for that are on the Playstation. Origins and Chronicles were merely ports my friend.

FF13 will sell 2 million units on the 360. You can quote me on that.Trelaf_TheWise

has any jrpg sold that many on the 360?? plus ps3 version will sell more ww because of japan. in america no one knows because the game will come out in 2010. the way sales are going for the ps3 i betting the ps3 version will selll more

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="hayato_"]Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????kage_53

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

That's what happens when you feed your fanbase so much crap. They start to like the taste and don't want anything else but it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. A Squaresoft fan and a Square Enix fan are two entirely different fans.

I think the remakes have been a little overdone also, but think about it. I loved FF IV and VI and probably wouldn't have gotten ahold of them if they didn't. FF didn't get really big till FF VII IMO. Some people might not have gotten to exprience the games as they were back then.

Chrono Trigger to btw. ( I have the Finfal Fantasy Chronicles which I love to this day)

hayato_

Yet I don't see every other dev doing what Square Enix is doing. There is virtual console/PSN/and XBLA for a reason. Nobody is stopping people from tracking down older systems and the games either.

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="hayato_"]Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????Blackbond

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

That's what happens when you feed your fanbase so much crap. They start to like the taste and don't want anything else but it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. A Squaresoft fan and a Square Enix fan are two entirely different fans.

I miss squaresoft...:cry:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="hayato_"]Think about it. All the remakes they have been making????Solidus_Mute

Thats from a severe lack of creativity on Square Enix's part.

That's what happens when you feed your fanbase so much crap. They start to like the taste and don't want anything else but it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. A Squaresoft fan and a Square Enix fan are two entirely different fans.

I miss squaresoft...:cry:

I miss Enix :(

hes pretty much on the money. ffxiii is still exclusive in japan (the largest ps3 install bas BTW). i think its safe to say many MANY people there will buy it. europe is about equal on the ff stance and in the usa- well lets just say people didnt buy the 360 for ff but people bought ps3's for that game;)

i said it before and ill say it again-

FFXIII was a win for 360 ownwers, NOT MS!!

good damage control there sonyDante2710

Exactly. Thats all it is. And does anyone truly think that Sony would be truthful about this and say, "Wow, this really gave us a good wallop in the sack"?????

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]
I think he was right in the fact that FFXIII won't drive sales for either console, but that whole "people grew up playing FF on playstation so naturally they will continue to do so" thing is wishful thinking.waynehead895

once again...(f)ony's ARROGANCE shines through and SHOWS why they deserve to be in THIRD place in this gens Console War. SHeesh (f)ony...could ya just lay it on a little THICKER next timejazreal

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

Multiplat
Primary COnsole for me is 360
Achievements/Gamerscore

I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

CajunShooter

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

once again...(f)ony's ARROGANCE shines through and SHOWS why they deserve to be in THIRD place in this gens Console War. SHeesh (f)ony...could ya just lay it on a little THICKER next timejazreal

how are they arrogant. they said the truth gta 4 did not put the 360 ahead dmc4 did not do the same. ff13 is going to the ps3 only in japan so its a guarantee that the ps3 will sell more plus has any jrpg sold over a million on the 360. lo was close but didn't. the games not coming out untill 2010. we all know by then the ps3 will catch up to the 360 by then. i betting more units sold also. one question did you call ms arrogant when they said they'd sell more than sony when its clearly not the case.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Playing on 360

Multiplat
Primary COnsole for me is 360
Achievements/Gamerscore

I could easily see the 360 version outselling the PS3 version in the U.S.

But overall PS3 FF13 will get more sales.

EmpCom

His quote wasnt it was going to sell more on PS3. It was it isn't going to move consoles like Microsoft is hoping by buying it as a multiplat.

um your wrong. the casual world (the real world) doesn't know or care. they see it as a game on both system and the ps3 has the upper hand in value. sure the 360 has good games but most came out last year. people aren't buying the 360 anymore and if sales continue for the 360 like the way it is now the ps3 will be above the 360. if you look at this year so far the 360 only has gta 4 as their big game... while sony has gta 4 and mgs4. that 50 million should of made gta 4 exclusive.

[QUOTE="jazreal"]once again...(f)ony's ARROGANCE shines through and SHOWS why they deserve to be in THIRD place in this gens Console War. SHeesh (f)ony...could ya just lay it on a little THICKER next timesireclaborn

how are they arrogant. they said the truth gta 4 did not put the 360 ahead dmc4 did not do the same. ff13 is going to the ps3 only in japan so its a guarantee that the ps3 will sell more plus has any jrpg sold over a million on the 360. lo was close but didn't. the games not coming out untill 2010. we all know by then the ps3 will catch up to the 360 by then. i betting more units sold also. one question did you call ms arrogant when they said they'd sell more than sony when its clearly not the case.

the arrogant part is to assume that EVERYONE will play this only on the psweakjazreal

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

[QUOTE="jazreal"]once again...(f)ony's ARROGANCE shines through and SHOWS why they deserve to be in THIRD place in this gens Console War. SHeesh (f)ony...could ya just lay it on a little THICKER next timejazreal

how are they arrogant. they said the truth gta 4 did not put the 360 ahead dmc4 did not do the same. ff13 is going to the ps3 only in japan so its a guarantee that the ps3 will sell more plus has any jrpg sold over a million on the 360. lo was close but didn't. the games not coming out untill 2010. we all know by then the ps3 will catch up to the 360 by then. i betting more units sold also. one question did you call ms arrogant when they said they'd sell more than sony when its clearly not the case.

and you should know a thing or 2 about being arrogant(look at your sig)

"oh the irony"

Say for example if FF13 sells 2 million on 360, PS3 version will be at 4-5 milllion simply because of Japan. So to argue is pointless unless SE decides to allow Japan to get a 360 version of FF13 which is unlikely since they haven't even begun development for the 360 version and ther fact that 360 is dead in Japan. BTW FF13 and vs13 go hand in hand, they complement each other, so you know which version of regular 13 to get ;)Swift_Boss_A

It's not like the PS3 is doing so hot in Japan, either. As to FFXIII and XIII Versus going hand-in-hand: Well yes, but considering we don't know how good Versus is going to be at this point (nor do many of us know if we'll even want it), that's not such a big issue. Hell, to some of us Square fans (you know, the pre-Playstation old guard), whether FFXIII is even going to be worth it is up for debate. I'll probably end up buying it just because there aren't many JRPGs available, but I'm not the biggest Square-Enix fan in the world, so I'm taking all the hype with a grain of salt. There's no way the series can be the same now that Sakaguchi left; it's like Miyamoto leaving Mario, or Kojima dropping Metal Gear.