Evolution Studios: DriveClub is not a racing sim

Good, sim racers are boring.

PhazonBlazer

i thought this was known since day one?II_Seraphim_II

Ditto. I assumed it wasn't.

[QUOTE="Motokid6"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] LOL. Thank you for this. Just PricelessNuck81

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]Neither are Forza and GT so it shouldn't matter.razgriz_101

GT, the only real Sim racer on consoles.kuraimen

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[QUOTE="Motokid6"]

Well.. I guess that's what I get for posting here in troll wars, eh?HadOne2Many

That's what you get for posting such obvious and fictitious damage control

Actually Motokid is spot on. Physics wise Forza is a great simulator. The arcade aspects are the "3, 2 1, Go!", damage models and lack of true racing strategy...but when it comes to driving on a track it is superb. As for your comments about wheel support, I agree that the number of manufacturers that create wheels leaves something to be desired but the Fanatec wheels are top notch. I use mine on PS3, PC & Xbox. Anyway long story short Nuck is that you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Drive Club = Next Gen PGR. Sorry Lems. :P

Drive Club = Next Gen PGR. Sorry Lems. :P

dream431ca

Except it's going to flop! :lol:

Evolution was been saying this for months now

"in-deepth" race sims are only on PC.

If this plays similar to Test Drive Unlimited or NFS Shift, that would be pretty good.

I'm more interested in Project Cars though.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

That's what you get for posting such obvious and fictitious damage controlrealguitarhero5

Actually Motokid is spot on. Physics wise Forza is a great simulator. The arcade aspects are the "3, 2 1, Go!", damage models and lack of true racing strategy...but when it comes to driving on a track it is superb. As for your comments about wheel support, I agree that the number of manufacturers that create wheels leaves something to be desired but the Fanatec wheels are top notch. I use mine on PS3, PC & Xbox. Anyway long story short Nuck is that you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

That's what you get for posting such obvious and fictitious damage controlrealguitarhero5

Actually Motokid is spot on. Physics wise Forza is a great simulator. The arcade aspects are the "3, 2 1, Go!", damage models and lack of true racing strategy...but when it comes to driving on a track it is superb. As for your comments about wheel support, I agree that the number of manufacturers that create wheels leaves something to be desired but the Fanatec wheels are top notch. I use mine on PS3, PC & Xbox. Anyway long story short Nuck is that you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

So it is a arcade game like Forza Motorsport.

NathanDrakeSwag

Tagy just stop...like I said I have much more experience than your average sim racer and when it comes to the driving, Forza goes toe to toe with any PC sim (provided you have the right setup). It is the other areas that make them more sim (flags, damage, qualifying, etc.)HadOne2Many

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

So it is a arcade game like Forza Motorsport.

Douevenlift_bro

Forza > GT so an arcade game beat a sim racer. :lol:

So it is a arcade game like Forza Motorsport.

NathanDrakeSwag

Forza was never an arcade game. It has features that can be changed to make it play more like an arcade game. With all the "help" features turned off, is a pure simulation with damage, unlike GT5, which was a complete mess. 1/2 the cars were less detailed, the AI still rubberbanded and online was a joke for the first couple of months.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Neither are Forza and GT so it shouldn't matter.MrYaotubo

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

So it is a arcade game like Forza Motorsport.

blackace

It still felt pretty "arcadey" even without all aids to me...

If anything, GT5 felt the most "simmy" without aids and actually required a wheel to play any good.

Forza was never an arcade game. It has features that can be changed to make it play more like an arcade game. With all the "help" features turned off, is a pure simulation with damage, unlike GT5, which was a complete mess. 1/2 the cars were less detailed, the AI still rubberbanded and online was a joke for the first couple of months.

 

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]Neither are Forza and GT so it shouldn't matter.blackace

It's a simcade. 

I understand why people think games like Forza are full on simulators because there's nothing else on the consoles like them. 

But if you directly compare it to the other sims, it looks like a simpler game, that's what I'm debating.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

So it is a arcade game like Forza Motorsport.

nameless12345

It still felt pretty "arcadey" even without all aids to me...

If anything, GT5 felt the most "simmy" without aids and actually required a wheel to play any good.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

Forza was never an arcade game. It has features that can be changed to make it play more like an arcade game. With all the "help" features turned off, is a pure simulation with damage, unlike GT5, which was a complete mess. 1/2 the cars were less detailed, the AI still rubberbanded and online was a joke for the first couple of months.

 

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]
Pretty much,there are no sims on consoles.tagyhag

It's a simcade. 

I understand why people think games like Forza are full on simulators because there's nothing else on the consoles like them. 

But if you directly compare it to the other sims, it looks like a simpler game, that's what I'm debating.

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[QUOTE="blackace"] Forza was never an arcade game. It has features that can be changed to make it play more like an arcade game. With all the "help" features turned off, is a pure simulation with damage, unlike GT5, which was a complete mess. 1/2 the cars were less detailed, the AI still rubberbanded and online was a joke for the first couple of months. blackace

It still felt pretty "arcadey" even without all aids to me...

If anything, GT5 felt the most "simmy" without aids and actually required a wheel to play any good.

I played 2 & 3 so I think I have a clue about how it handles. ;)

The physics model is in-between realism and arcade, not full-on simulation like PC sims. (e.g. GTR series, GP Legends, iRacing, rFactor, NETKar, Live For Speed, ect.)

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

It still felt pretty "arcadey" even without all aids to me...

If anything, GT5 felt the most "simmy" without aids and actually required a wheel to play any good.

nameless12345

I played 2 & 3 so I think I have a clue about how it handles. ;)

The physics model is in-between realism and arcade, not full-on simulation like PC sims. (e.g. GTR series, GP Legends, iRacing, rFactor, NETKar, Live For Speed, ect.)

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[QUOTE="blackace"] No it doesn't. You can play Forza 4 with a wheel as well. You've never played Forza 4. I've played both of them. Both games have great physics, but Forza 4 have more features, online play and better A.I. Both games can play like a simulation. Forza 4 is obviously better. blackace

I played 2 & 3 so I think I have a clue about how it handles. ;)

The physics model is in-between realism and arcade, not full-on simulation like PC sims. (e.g. GTR series, GP Legends, iRacing, rFactor, NETKar, Live For Speed, ect.)

GTR requires a wheel to drive any good/competitive and has in-deepth telemetrics and costumization. (not just fancy "painting" like console racers)

Forza is perfectly playlable with a gamepad even without all aids.