Exclusive and Time exclusive please read.

Over the past month sense we basically have been pondering over games such as Haze, and UT3. I'm really tired of hearing about time exclusive, and exclusivness when it is on the pc as well. So I want people to discuss this, and really think about it.

First off My thing with exclusitivity is this. You have consoles, and you have PCs. Now my thing is this, PC is not a console. Would you agree with me on that? If you agree with me than you will agree with the fact that if you can get lets say BIOSHOCK on 360, but not the PS3 than you can realistically say it is exclusive. Why? Well that is the only console you can get the game on. You can get it on a PC but a PC is not a console. That is my opinion, and I really do not think you can take a console, and say hey its not exclusive because it is on PC, yes this is another option but a PC is not a frigin console end of story. I want people's thoughts on that.

Secondly, this timed exclusive stuff is really getting sicking, and old. I think really its about time that people move on with HAZE and UT3. Everyone should just say hey we all get to play both of these great games, and end it. STOP TALKING ABOUT TIME EXCLUSIVE it really does not matter at all. Big deal I have to wait another month or so to play this game.

So basically my conclusion is. I'm tired of people comparing PCs with consoles on exclusivity because I feel they are two different platforms, and they are not in the same market. I feel as though if you can only get it on a 360 not the PS3 is it exclusive because they are consoles. Same goes for Wii and PS3. Please I also want people to really think about the time exclusitivity, and to really think if it is worth arguing about on any system, because in the end its going to be available for both systems anyways so what is the difference? DISCUSS.

I think the issue of games on PC is a touchy one. If it releases day and date on the PC and a console, it shouldn't be an exclusive. If it's on the console or the PC alone for any length of time then it should count as a timed exclusive.

That's probably the simplest way, and creates the least confusion

I think the issue of games on PC is a touchy one. If it releases day and date on the PC and a console, it shouldn't be an exclusive. If it's on the console or the PC alonefor any length of time then it should count as a timed exclusive.

That's probably the simplest way, and creates the least confusion

SpaceMatt

I mean maybe I should of used Multiplat as well, I really didn't think of that. But my thing is though you have consoles, handhelds, and then PCs. Which technically are in different markets. So I feel as though when people mention BIOSHOCK as a 360 exclusive. I think that is a true statement, because then a lot of PS3 fans will say "oh wait a minute its on PC, so it is not exclusive". Which I believe it is because its only on one of the three consoles that are available.

My philosophy is if you can get the same (or very close to the same) game experience in more than one place, it's not exclusive.

That would mean games like G.R.A.W. 1 for the Xbox 360 would technically be exclusive (don't anyone dare tell me the PC or Xbox/PS 2 versions are even remotely close to it), but games like Bioshock, Quake 4 and Prey wouldn't be, since the experience between PCs and 360s is for all intents and purposes the same

I mean maybe I should of used Multiplat as well, I really didn't think of that. But my thing is though you have consoles, handhelds, and then PCs. Which technically are in different markets. So I feel as though when people mention BIOSHOCK as a 360 exclusive. I think that is a true statement, because then a lot of PS3 fans will say "oh wait a minute its on PC, so it is not exclusive". Which I believe it is because its only on one of the three consoles that are available.

xscrapzx

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I mean maybe I should of used Multiplat as well, I really didn't think of that. But my thing is though you have consoles, handhelds, and then PCs. Which technically are in different markets. So I feel as though when people mention BIOSHOCK as a 360 exclusive. I think that is a true statement, because then a lot of PS3 fans will say "oh wait a minute its on PC, so it is not exclusive". Which I believe it is because its only on one of the three consoles that are available.

nintendofreak_2

I dont think you can compare a PC to a console. Its not fair they are two different technologies. They may be similar with the games aspect, but the one thing is that technology is changing every second ecspecially on PCs. You can upgrade them, with ram, space, video, sound. Its an ever changing piece of hardware. Where with consoles you are basically stuck with that set up until sony or MS comes out with a new and improved system. So that is why I believe they are two different animals, and thats why I believe that you can say if something is on one console but not the other, and it is on pc you can say it is exclusive.

why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. CaseyWegner

That may be true here, but the bottom line is one is a console one is a pc. They are different technologies. One you can upgrade one you can't. PC is not a console. So if it not a console how can you sit there, and say that a game you can play on a console but not on any other console but a specific console is not exclusive because it is on pc. So that would state every game that is on the 360 is not exclusive then, because 75% to 80% games on the 360 are on the PC. I mean is that what you are getting to?

You just have to think for a moment. All platforms compete against one another, whether it be direct or indirect. If I didn't buy DS games I'd be buying more Wii games, or visa versa. If a game is released on one platform, no matter what platform it is, it is exclusive. If a game is released on all platforms (like a move game), then it's multi-plat. Then why is it if you down-scale these releases to just a console and PC, then it is an exclusive for each? The consumer still has to decide on which version they want so they are competing with each other.

Also you can view reviews as well. All games go throguh the same rating formula even if there are different standards.

The PC is a platform. Consoles are platforms. Handhelds are platforms.

You just have to think for a moment. All platforms compete against one another, whether it be direct or indirect. If I didn't buy DS games I'd be buying more Wii games, or visa versa. If a game is released on one platform, no matter what platform it is, it is exclusive. If a game is released on all platforms (like a move game), then it's multi-plat. Then why is it if you down-scale these releases to just a console and PC, then it is an exclusive for each? The consumer still has to decide on which version they want so they are competing with each other.

Also you can view reviews as well. All games go throguh the same rating formula even if there are different standards.

The PC is a platform. Consoles are platforms. Handhelds are platforms.

nintendofreak_2

Yes but someone who is pretty much a console gamer, and not a pc gamer why would they spend money buying it on both. Visa versa if someone is a pc gamer why would they spend their money and buy the game on the console. I don't know I feel as though you have handhelds, consoles, and pcs. Though they all might attract the same audience I feel as though you have people with consoles. If there is one game you can get for 360, but not the PS3 I think that is exclusive on the console end, and it should get that credit. I dont feel as though you can say well then its on the PC so no it is not exclusive sorry lemming you lose. You know what I'm saying?

Yes but someone who is pretty much a console gamer, and not a pc gamer why would they spend money buying it on both. Visa versa if someone is a pc gamer why would they spend their money and buy the game on the console. I don't know I feel as though you have handhelds, consoles, and pcs. Though they all might attract the same audience I feel as though you have people with consoles. If there is one game you can get for 360, but not the PS3 I think that is exclusive on the console end, and it should get that credit. I dont feel as though you can say well then its on the PC so no it is not exclusive sorry lemming you lose. You know what I'm saying?

xscrapzx

so...because most gamers stick to 1 or 2 things, (consoles or pc usually) dosent mean its exclusive just because they dont buy a pc that can run it, thats like saying GTA is exclusive cus i have a 360 but i won buy a ps3 cus its in a different market, its a gaming market not a console marke, pc market, handheld market, if it plays games, its in the gaming market, the 360 has timed exclusevs, they last up to several years, by the time these games get to PC they arent that great anymore (see haolo2 pc) thus, hermits dont care about them

with your logic, every pc game is exclusive because its 'in a diferent market' so, really, with that logic, why bring this up at all?

/rant

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. xscrapzx

That may be true here, but the bottom line is one is a console one is a pc. They are different technologies. One you can upgrade one you can't. PC is not a console. So if it not a console how can you sit there, and say that a game you can play on a console but not on any other console but a specific console is not exclusive because it is on pc. So that would state every game that is on the 360 is not exclusive then, because 75% to 80% games on the 360 are on the PC. I mean is that what you are getting to?

again, why does it matter that it's not a console? or that it can be upgraded? once more, if a game can be played on more than one system then it's not exclusive. there is absolutely no way around it. if 75% to 80% of the 360's games are also on the pc, then 75% to 80% of its games are not exclusive.

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

You just have to think for a moment. All platforms compete against one another, whether it be direct or indirect. If I didn't buy DS games I'd be buying more Wii games, or visa versa. If a game is released on one platform, no matter what platform it is, it is exclusive. If a game is released on all platforms (like a move game), then it's multi-plat. Then why is it if you down-scale these releases to just a console and PC, then it is an exclusive for each? The consumer still has to decide on which version they want so they are competing with each other.

Also you can view reviews as well. All games go throguh the same rating formula even if there are different standards.

The PC is a platform. Consoles are platforms. Handhelds are platforms.

xscrapzx

Yes but someone who is pretty much a console gamer, and not a pc gamer why would they spend money buying it on both. Visa versa if someone is a pc gamer why would they spend their money and buy the game on the console. I don't know I feel as though you have handhelds, consoles, and pcs. Though they all might attract the same audience I feel as though you have people with consoles. If there is one game you can get for 360, but not the PS3 I think that is exclusive on the console end, and it should get that credit. I dont feel as though you can say well then its on the PC so no it is not exclusive sorry lemming you lose. You know what I'm saying?

what does being fair have to do with it?

So basically my conclusion is. I'm tired of people comparing PCs with consoles on exclusivity because I feel they are two different platforms, and they are not in the same market.xscrapzx

The only reason anyone cares about exclusives is to make their system of choice look better. "PS3 will have MGS4 and non-PS3 owners won't be able to play it. Nya-nya!" When a game is on more than one platform, then it's not exclusive. It doesn't matter if that platform is a PC.

Generally, when exlusives are brought up in this forum it's a way of proving that people should by console X over any other platform. "360 has 8 exclusive AAA titles and PS3 only has 2. 360 FTW." But, aside from the couple people who actually read these forums to determine which console to buy; I don't think it exclusives have any significant impact on a platform's sales.

I think bringing up exclusives stems from all the response to threads like "360 has the best line up," and people replying with "Show proof." And, in order for some systems to look better, they said, "Well, I'll only bring up the exclusive AAA titles." Which seems stupid to me, because if a library was going to sway me in purchasing a console I'd like a list of all the great games. Exclusives are really only a factor to people who own say a 360 and are thinking about a PS3. They want to know which additional games they can play on the PS3 and if those justify the price of the console.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. CaseyWegner

That may be true here, but the bottom line is one is a console one is a pc. They are different technologies. One you can upgrade one you can't. PC is not a console. So if it not a console how can you sit there, and say that a game you can play on a console but not on any other console but a specific console is not exclusive because it is on pc. So that would state every game that is on the 360 is not exclusive then, because 75% to 80% games on the 360 are on the PC. I mean is that what you are getting to?

again, why does it matter that it's not a console? or that it can be upgraded? once more, if a game can be played on more than one system then it's not exclusive. there is absolutely no way around it. if 75% to 80% of the 360's games are also on the pc, then 75% to 80% of its games are not exclusive.

So then basically any 360 fan that makes a thread, and tries to challange its exclusive games to the PS3, than it has no chance than right?

Exclusives are based on what PLATFORMS they are on. You said it yourself, the PC, 360, and PS3 are all platforms. I beleive the term MULTI PLATFORM comes into mind here. Handhelds are considered platforms as well. A game that is released on more than one platform simultaneously cannot be exclusive. nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. xscrapzx

That may be true here, but the bottom line is one is a console one is a pc. They are different technologies. One you can upgrade one you can't. PC is not a console. So if it not a console how can you sit there, and say that a game you can play on a console but not on any other console but a specific console is not exclusive because it is on pc. So that would state every game that is on the 360 is not exclusive then, because 75% to 80% games on the 360 are on the PC. I mean is that what you are getting to?

again, why does it matter that it's not a console? or that it can be upgraded? once more, if a game can be played on more than one system then it's not exclusive. there is absolutely no way around it. if 75% to 80% of the 360's games are also on the pc, then 75% to 80% of its games are not exclusive.

So then basically any 360 fan that makes a thread, and tries to challange its exclusive games to the PS3, than it has no chance than right?

if they call them exclusive...yes. the games are not exclusive. convinced yet?

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Exclusives are based on what PLATFORMS they are on. You said it yourself, the PC, 360, and PS3 are all platforms. I beleive the term MULTI PLATFORM comes into mind here. Handhelds are considered platforms as well. A game that is released on more than one platform simultaneously cannot be exclusive. jazreal

will you please answer the question that nobody else ever seems to do? why does it matter that the pc is not a console?

Secondly, this timed exclusive stuff is really getting sicking, and old. I think really its about time that people move on with HAZE and UT3. Everyone should just say hey we all get to play both of these great games, and end it. STOP TALKING ABOUT TIME EXCLUSIVE it really does not matter at all. Big deal I have to wait another month or so to play this game.

xscrapzx

It goes both ways. Lemmings constantly belittle games that appear on the PS3 because they appeared on the 360 first. Games such as Oblivion and Vegas. These games got AAA on the PS3, yet lemmings constantly say that the PS3 doesn't have any games to play and these games don't count as "good" games because these games came out months ago on the 360.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. CaseyWegner

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Exclusives are based on what PLATFORMS they are on. You said it yourself, the PC, 360, and PS3 are all platforms. I beleive the term MULTI PLATFORM comes into mind here. Handhelds are considered platforms as well. A game that is released on more than one platform simultaneously cannot be exclusive. CaseyWegner

will you please answer the question that nobody else ever seems to do? why does it matter that the pc is not a console?

i had a thread similar to this with a pole.. exclusive if its on 360 and pc not exclusive if its on 360 and ps3.

even MS said it themself on a few games, in this e3 this game will be exclusive to 360 and to windows.

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

jazreal

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]why does it matter that the pc isn't a console? this is system wars. if a game can be played on more than one system, it's not exclusive. there is no way around this. it's always been that way and it will always be that way. CaseyWegner

That may be true here, but the bottom line is one is a console one is a pc. They are different technologies. One you can upgrade one you can't. PC is not a console. So if it not a console how can you sit there, and say that a game you can play on a console but not on any other console but a specific console is not exclusive because it is on pc. So that would state every game that is on the 360 is not exclusive then, because 75% to 80% games on the 360 are on the PC. I mean is that what you are getting to?

again, why does it matter that it's not a console? or that it can be upgraded? once more, if a game can be played on more than one system then it's not exclusive. there is absolutely no way around it. if 75% to 80% of the 360's games are also on the pc, then 75% to 80% of its games are not exclusive.

So then basically any 360 fan that makes a thread, and tries to challange its exclusive games to the PS3, than it has no chance than right?

if they call them exclusive...yes. the games are not exclusive. convinced yet?

Ok I just wanted to make sure, so then as of right now PS3 leads the way with exclusives. I just wanted to make sure thats all.

i had a thread similar to this with a pole.. exclusive if its on 360 and pc not exclusive if its on 360 and ps3.

even MS said it themself on a few games, in this e3 this game will be exclusive to 360 and to windows.

beldugo

sales pitch. it doesn't matter what they say. the game is not exclusive to one system.

[QUOTE="jazreal"]

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

CaseyWegner

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

Ok I just wanted to make sure, so then as of right now PS3 leads the way with exclusives. I just wanted to make sure thats all.

xscrapzx

how would it lead the way with exclusives when it has fewer of them? :|

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="jazreal"]

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

jazreal

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

and why would you need to say "exclusive to consoles"? :?

your right, it is a Gaming platform. all im saying is that if a game comes out on 360 and pc, its still exclusive to "consoles".....can we agree on that?jazreal

If you really want to get into a PS3/360 fight, then have a contest between the two that compares the games that the other one doesn't get. And don't call them exclusives: just compare the games between the two systems. They aren't exclusives. Just deal.

[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Exclusives are based on what PLATFORMS they are on. You said it yourself, the PC, 360, and PS3 are all platforms. I beleive the term MULTI PLATFORM comes into mind here. Handhelds are considered platforms as well. A game that is released on more than one platform simultaneously cannot be exclusive. CaseyWegner

will you please answer the question that nobody else ever seems to do? why does it matter that the pc is not a console?

I'm going to answer it the best I can. A pc is a personal computer that can be modified, and customized to the users needs. A console is a game console, its pretty much confined to playing games, atleast that is its main purpose. With technology growing a console has changed very much but not in the way a PC can. The bottom line is that consoles do not compete with PCs. So if that statment is not true on what I just said that means that the PSP is competition with the 360, going by what you are saying, because I mean they all play similar games. I mean the pc, and I dont care what you say about it, it is a different animal than a console, and always will be. So sense the pc is a different thing all together how can you say it is the same as a console. The 360 competes with PS3 as to who is the king of consoles, the pc compete with macs, so if the 360 has a game that is not on the ps3 than that should stand as exclusive because it is not available on the PS3 or the Wii. Thats my point

[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="jazreal"]

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

CaseyWegner

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

and why would you need to say "exclusive to consoles"? :?

Because pc is not a console, if PC is a console than they have to change the name.

[QUOTE="jazreal"]

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

CaseyWegner

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

The point is, if I can have the same game experience (play the same game) on more than one piece of equipment, that game is NOT exclusive. Simple.

[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="jazreal"]

So tell me then(hey casey, wusssup bro) which pc "represents" itself as the ONE TRUE CONSOLE???? the area 51? the AURORA? is there a particular brand of pc to take up this mantle???? sorry, but pc is a GENERIC form of gameplay, like in the stores when you buy a black and white can of beans....it may be beans, but its still generic.

CaseyWegner

yay for stuff that doesn't matter. the pc is still considered a gaming platform.

and why would you need to say "exclusive to consoles"? :?

ok help me out here.....i think your trying to convence me that a pc is a "platform"....and i agree with you 100 percent.

all im saying is that pc is no a "console", so when a game comes out for (example) 360 and pc, it is still console exclusive, because wii and ps3 will never see it.........does that make since??????? are you ok today bro? :)

I'm going to answer it the best I can. A pc is a personal computer that can be modified, and customized to the users needs. A console is a game console, its pretty much confined to playing games, atleast that is its main purpose. With technology growing a console has changed very much but not in the way a PC can. The bottom line is that consoles do not compete with PCs. So if that statment is not true on what I just said that means that the PSP is competition with the 360, going by what you are saying, because I mean they all play similar games. I mean the pc, and I dont care what you say about it, it is a different animal than a console, and always will be. So sense the pc is a different thing all together how can you say it is the same as a console. The 360 competes with PS3 as to who is the king of consoles, the pc compete with macs, so if the 360 has a game that is not on the ps3 than that should stand as exclusive because it is not available on the PS3 or the Wii. Thats my point

xscrapzx

I'm pretty sure we're in System Wars, not Console Wars. You can't exclude PC's just because they can do more things than consoles can. You're close to saying that you couldn't include the PS3 in System Wars based on the fact that you can swap out hard drives, install operating systems, and now use mods with some games.

You don't get to make up your own rules in a debate forum. Sorry.

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Ok I just wanted to make sure, so then as of right now PS3 leads the way with exclusives. I just wanted to make sure thats all.

CaseyWegner

how would it lead the way with exclusives when it has fewer of them? :|

Yes I understand this, I spoke with wrong context.

[QUOTE="jazreal"]your right, it is a Gaming platform. all im saying is that if a game comes out on 360 and pc, its still exclusive to "consoles".....can we agree on that?Ellipson

If you really want to get into a PS3/360 fight, then have a contest between the two that compares the games that the other one doesn't get. And don't call them exclusives: just compare the games between the two systems. They aren't exclusives. Just deal.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

I'm going to answer it the best I can. A pc is a personal computer that can be modified, and customized to the users needs. A console is a game console, its pretty much confined to playing games, atleast that is its main purpose. With technology growing a console has changed very much but not in the way a PC can. The bottom line is that consoles do not compete with PCs. So if that statment is not true on what I just said that means that the PSP is competition with the 360, going by what you are saying, because I mean they all play similar games. I mean the pc, and I dont care what you say about it, it is a different animal than a console, and always will be. So sense the pc is a different thing all together how can you say it is the same as a console. The 360 competes with PS3 as to who is the king of consoles, the pc compete with macs, so if the 360 has a game that is not on the ps3 than that should stand as exclusive because it is not available on the PS3 or the Wii. Thats my point

Ellipson

I'm pretty sure we're in System Wars, not Console Wars. You can't exclude PC's just because they can do more things than consoles can. You're close to saying that you couldn't include the PS3 in System Wars based on the fact that you can swap out hard drives, install operating systems, and now use mods with some games.

You don't get to make up your own rules in a debate forum. Sorry.

No I'm not making up my own rules, the bottom is a pc is a pc. Sense when the PS3 compete against dell for the home PC market?????

I'm going to answer it the best I can. A pc is a personal computer that can be modified, and customized to the users needs. A console is a game console, its pretty much confined to playing games, atleast that is its main purpose. With technology growing a console has changed very much but not in the way a PC can. The bottom line is that consoles do not compete with PCs. So if that statment is not true on what I just said that means that the PSP is competition with the 360, going by what you are saying, because I mean they all play similar games. I mean the pc, and I dont care what you say about it, it is a different animal than a console, and always will be. So sense the pc is a different thing all together how can you say it is the same as a console. The 360 competes with PS3 as to who is the king of consoles, the pc compete with macs, so if the 360 has a game that is not on the ps3 than that should stand as exclusive because it is not available on the PS3 or the Wii. Thats my point

xscrapzx

How can you possibly say consoles do not compete with PCs? I built my PC JUST for gaming. I have a laptop lying around that I typically browse the internet/do other things from. At times I have a choice of what PLATFORM to buy a game on - some games I buy on my 360 (sports), some games (FPS, RTS) I buy on my PC. Those two platforms are competing for my money.

I don't think MS strategy is bad. Release a game on your console, wait a while then release on a PC which the owner of has already pumped some money into your company (windows). It is amazing that games moving to PC after they have been on the Xbox/360 for, at times two years, gets people all upset and blown out of proportion.

For a long time I always wondered why I read/posted at times in system wars. Then it just hit me...people just make things up as they go to sound good and it is fun to read/laugh at.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Ok I just wanted to make sure, so then as of right now PS3 leads the way with exclusives. I just wanted to make sure thats all.

xscrapzx

how would it lead the way with exclusives when it has fewer of them? :|

Yes I understand this, I spoke with wrong context.

what was the correct context?

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I'm going to answer it the best I can. A pc is a personal computer that can be modified, and customized to the users needs. A console is a game console, its pretty much confined to playing games, atleast that is its main purpose. With technology growing a console has changed very much but not in the way a PC can. The bottom line is that consoles do not compete with PCs. So if that statment is not true on what I just said that means that the PSP is competition with the 360, going by what you are saying, because I mean they all play similar games. I mean the pc, and I dont care what you say about it, it is a different animal than a console, and always will be. So sense the pc is a different thing all together how can you say it is the same as a console. The 360 competes with PS3 as to who is the king of consoles, the pc compete with macs, so if the 360 has a game that is not on the ps3 than that should stand as exclusive because it is not available on the PS3 or the Wii. Thats my point

Ellipson

I'm pretty sure we're in System Wars, not Console Wars. You can't exclude PC's just because they can do more things than consoles can. You're close to saying that you couldn't include the PS3 in System Wars based on the fact that you can swap out hard drives, install operating systems, and now use mods with some games.

You don't get to make up your own rules in a debate forum. Sorry.

........errmmm......im not sure where your comming from bro :( i think we are getting "crosspointjulated" :P

ok help me out here.....i think your trying to convence me that a pc is a "platform"....and i agree with you 100 percent.

all im saying is that pc is no a "console", so when a game comes out for (example) 360 and pc, it is still console exclusive, because wii and ps3 will never see it.........does that make since??????? are you ok today bro? :)

jazreal

yes...but why are you excluding one of the four platforms? they're all valid gaming platforms. why do you need to compare console game lineups by themselves when the pc has a game lineup as well?