Exclusives are killing gaming!

seriously there are so many great games in past couple of years, but because they

are exclusive, a lot of people miss out!

this is just irritating because to play each exclusive, you have to buy a whole other system :(

It would be basically like having to buy one computer to play crysis, another to play empire at war

and another to play WoW+some preipheral.

point is at the end of the day we all just want to buy games not spend 199$+ for each system.

seriously what's wrong with developers just making games for the PC?

that way anyone can play it on a system that they chose according to their preference..../rant.

ummm for the money?

ummm for the money?

JangoWuzHere

if there were no exclusives, there would be no point having more than one console on the market. exclusives are VERY important to console manufactuers....thetruespin

I luv exclusives they end up really standing out being awesome like gears for 360 and killzone 2 for ps3, competition is great and I own all consoles so luving itBigTripleL

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]if there were no exclusives, there would be no point having more than one console on the market. exclusives are VERY important to console manufactuers....omarguy01

seriously there are so many great games in past couple of years, but because they

are exclusive, a lot of people miss out!

this is just irritating because to play each exclusive, you have to buy a whole other system :(

It would be basically like having to buy one computer to play crysis, another to play empire at war

and another to play WoW+some preipheral.

point is at the end of the day we all just want to buy games not spend 199$+ for each system.

seriously what's wrong with developers just making games for the PC?

that way anyone can play it on a system that they chose according to their preference..../rant.

Great_Ragnarok

exclusives=saves gaming too bad xbox360 has no exclusives

exclusives are the main insentive for buying a particular console... If every game was multiplat, every console would be the exact same thing, therefore, there would be no reason to have more than one console on the market. and system wars would cease to exist... due to system wars not being here anymore, everyone would commit suicide out of sheer boredom. then, their families and friends would commit suicide out of sadness for their loss. and eventually, everyone on earth is dead except for the few hermits on the earth (by hermits, i dont mean PC fanboys, i mean actual hermits who live alone, so they dont associate with anyone and wouldnt be saddened by the mass suicide)... but eventually, they die of old age, which leaves the earth to be ruled by dolphins...

all that because you want multiplats... i hope youre happy :evil:

pc need's more exclusive fps, and xbox360 and ps3 and wii.

dev's need to get their head out of their ass who cares it's not all about the money it's about making the best game possible for the platform you releasing it on.

[QUOTE="omarguy01"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]if there were no exclusives, there would be no point having more than one console on the market. exclusives are VERY important to console manufactuers....thetruespin

All games on a single platform means no competition? people can't even get the basics right...

no only nintendo ftw , they make profit day one remember that,

they opted for last gen visuals at least a lil like xbox, i like the xbox /gc and ps2 graphics they dont bother me , and yea for 360 and ps3 at least look what exclusivity has done,

more spacifically to free radical ,

haze any body , since it had very little audience,

no timesplitters 4 any one , we pay because of exclusivity,

lol, we cant ever see possibly the best fps this gen now , all were left with is a teaser ,

so ya its killing ps3 and 360 but wii is making a fine line in that department, ford racing off road is only 10 dollars but damn im amazed at what ive been playing so far, the wheel incorpoeration , handles smooth,

so those looking for a few racing titles to tied them over or just want a few wii games, look at walmart for ford racing off road,

an exclusive to ps2/wii

better then any ford racing put before,

but ya , exclusives on the ps3 is gonna hurt the worst lol ,

not to us but to those who make it,

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="omarguy01"] but are they important to the general (non-fanboy) consumer? that's the question.

All games on a single platform means no competition? people can't even get the basics right...

Lol, really... Tired of these communist children EVERYTHING IS NOT GONNA BE SHARED! Get your mom to buy you every console.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

ummm for the money?

Great_Ragnarok

He's talking about income for the manufacturers of the individual systems, not the developers/publishers that put games on them.

This gen has almost no exclusives compared to the past. Almost every big name 3rd party game is multi-plat nowaways, and thats a good thing. Means I don't have to buy 3 consoles like I did last gen.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]if there were no exclusives, there would be no point having more than one console on the market. exclusives are VERY important to console manufactuers....omarguy01

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

ummm for the money?

Great_Ragnarok

yes for the bigger companies. Sony, Nintendo, and M$ are all going for a monopoly on gamers here. It sucks for the developers. /

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

ummm for the money?

Great_Ragnarok

So having a greater audience would drive individual console sales how? :|

(i.e. Why would I choose a PS3 over a 360 or Wii assuming all 3 had the same exact game library??)

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"] well, without them there would only be one console... no point having more than one. and i think, without this competition, the quality of games would reduce... so yes, i think they are important to everyoneNinjaMunkey01

All games on a single platform means no competition? people can't even get the basics right...

Most game developers don't care what platform they develop on, all they care about is if it has a sufficient audience for their game. We are reaching a point were the cost to develop a game poses too much risk to limit it to one audience, hence the significant reduction in exclusive games. Next console gen when consoles take another hardware leap games will be considerably more expensive to make compared to today, even the incentives offered by console companies may not be enough to convince none 1st party developers to stay exclusive.

The console business model is due for a overhaul, exclusives won't be a sufficient sales point forever if things keep going the way they are, you may actually get the none exclusive markert you want one day.

Exclusive support from companies like Sony and Microsoft for companies like Guerilla Games and Epic is what allows for their exclusive games to be so good. If every game was multiplat or only one console existed, I can guarantee that such funding would not exist.

Exclusive support from companies like Sony and Microsoft for companies like Guerilla Games and Epic is what allows for their exclusive games to be so good. If every game was multiplat or only one console existed, I can guarantee that such funding would not exist.

drj077

They require such funding because they are exclusive, if they were cross platform they could justify the bigger budget with the bigger audience available.

[QUOTE="drj077"]

Exclusive support from companies like Sony and Microsoft for companies like Guerilla Games and Epic is what allows for their exclusive games to be so good. If every game was multiplat or only one console existed, I can guarantee that such funding would not exist.

AnnoyedDragon

They require such funding because they are exclusive, if they were cross platform they could justify the bigger budget with the bigger audience available.

I don't think you understand. These companies get large, exclusive amounts of money to keep their games exclusive. When you force a company to develop a game under the assumption that it will sell better, because there is a bigger audience, you're asking a company to 1)Take a series risk and2)Ignore potentially tens of millions of dollars to assist with development, hire more workers, and expand the business.

Companies develop exclusively for certain platforms, because they actually make more money that way than if they develop for multiple platforms. Especially,if they have a significant financial backing from a large company like Microsoft or Sony.

I don't think you understand. These companies get large, exclusive amounts of money to keep their games exclusive. When you force a company to develop a game under the assumption that it will sell better, because there is a bigger audience, you're asking a company to 1)Take a series risk and2)Ignore potentially tens of millions of dollars to assist with development, hire more workers, and expand the business.

Companies develop exclusively for certain platforms, because they actually make more money that way than if they develop for multiple platforms. Especially,if they have a significant financial backing from a large company like Microsoft or Sony.

drj077

You're dramatizing it to make it sound like exclusives are the better deal, when in fact as we have seen the majority of developers are turning their nose up at the incentives offered by console companies and go cross platform.

Most of your arguments are actually the opposite, there is allot more risk putting all your eggs in one basket than spreading them out, the potential returns from cross platform are far greater than exclusives today and are less risky.

Developers are paid to make exclusive games. Exclusive games sell systems. System selling makes money. Money makes everyone happy.

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seriously there are so many great games in past couple of years, but because they

are exclusive, a lot of people miss out!

this is just irritating because to play each exclusive, you have to buy a whole other system :(

It would be basically like having to buy one computer to play crysis, another to play empire at war

and another to play WoW+some preipheral.

point is at the end of the day we all just want to buy games not spend 199$+ for each system.

seriously what's wrong with developers just making games for the PC?

that way anyone can play it on a system that they chose according to their preference..../rant.

Great_Ragnarok

1. Different games demand different control schemes and power that not all systems are capable of providing.
2. The less exclusives there are, the less reasons consumers have for owning another system.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"] A single console owned by a single company is the worst that can happen, true. But somehow I'm still hoping for a single standard platform governed by multiple companies. (I know I know it's just wishful thinking)

_Pedro_

It's called a PC. multiple companies design every aspect of it.

really its the best place for game developers! where as MS,Sony and Nintendo are trying to gain a monopoly! which is bad for us.

[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]

seriously there are so many great games in past couple of years, but because they

are exclusive, a lot of people miss out!

this is just irritating because to play each exclusive, you have to buy a whole other system :(

It would be basically like having to buy one computer to play crysis, another to play empire at war

and another to play WoW+some preipheral.

point is at the end of the day we all just want to buy games not spend 199 for each system.

seriously what's wrong with developers just making games for the PC?

that way anyone can play it on a system that they chose according to their preference..../rant.

Technoweirdo

1. Different games demand different control schemes and power that not all systems are capable of providing.
2. The less exclusives there are, the less reasons consumers have for owning another system.

yeah I'm saying why not develop for the PC? you can make just about any peripheral work with the PC!

some even have their wiimote working!

so having less to no consoles and all games going to an open platform like the PC, is the way forward imo.

that way the user can get the exact experience he/she wants.

no only nintendo ftw , they make profit day one remember thatmariokart64fan

yeah I'm saying why not develop for the PC? you can make just about any peripheral work with the PC!

some even have their wiimote working!

so having less to no consoles and all games going to an open platform like the PC, is the way forward imo.

that way the user can get the exact experience he/she wants.

Great_Ragnarok

Exclusives are what make each console unique without them there is pretty much no point in there being 3 consoles.

Exclusives have always existed but you belive they are killing gaming :lol:

I think no 3rd party should make exclusives, ever. The likes of Lost & Damned, MGS4, Okami and bla bla bla should pretty much be enjoyed by all of those who own current gen consoles. Of course if you own a Wii only good luck.

My point is that exclusives should be reserved to only 1st and 2nd party developers, you know.... the people who work for the console's manufacturer? Exclusives should never be made by 3rd party, that's what I think.

Someone said before: piracy

Good point because most PC games can be downloaded through bittorrent. Even though developers have techniques to prevent this, there are always loop holes that a good hacker can get through.

I love exclusives and I love competition between nintendo, ms, and sony. I think it really drives gaming to newer levels. If MS did not get into the gaming market then we probably would not have the wii. Nintendo probably would of just tried to make a better system with better graphics, BUT because gaming became a 3 way arms race, they decided to try a different approach to gaming and made a unique system with a new style of gaming.

I hope that there is never just one console and there is always competition.

Exclusives are what make each console unique without them there is pretty much no point in there being 3 consoles.

Dahaka-UK

God forbid a console sells on its merits,price and reliability..