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#51 musicalmac  Moderator
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So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

deangallop
Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"
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#52 C-Lee
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I own all of the consoles I win. ;)
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#53 Aboogie5
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] You can play every game on a Mac. Every one.deangallop

Let me clarify it to him. You can install Win7 on MAC and play every Pc game on MAC It has the exact same x86 architecture with any Dell/HP/Acer pc it has similar and compatible components os its a PC ( god that is the 100th time about this subject lately )

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

Can i play crysis on a windows 2000??

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#54 mo0ksi
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I wish both Super Mario Galaxies were on PC, with great mod support. Think of the potential.
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#55 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

musicalmac

Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a PS3, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?

Edit: typo error on first go around.

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#56 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] Let me clarify it to him. You can install Win7 on MAC and play every Pc game on MAC It has the exact same x86 architecture with any Dell/HP/Acer pc it has similar and compatible components os its a PC ( god that is the 100th time about this subject lately )Aboogie5

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

Can i play crysis on a windows 2000??

What does that has to do with anything?
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#57 MasterBolt360
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Either Little Big Planet or Modnation Racers.

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#58 musicalmac  Moderator
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I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a 360, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?deangallop
Do you consider installing an operating system jumping through hoops? And I still think it would be an exclusive if a hacker magically made Reach available to all 360 owners. (lol)
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#59 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="deangallop"]

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

deangallop
Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a 360, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?

What hoops? Its perfectly legal to buy a win7 copy for Mac and is as easy as installing Win7 on a brand new Dell Pc without any OS ( in fact is the same freaking procedure )
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#60 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a 360, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?musicalmac
Do you consider installing an operating system jumping through hoops? And I still think it would be an exclusive if a hacker magically made Reach available to all 360 owners. (lol)

made a typo read again.

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#61 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="deangallop"]I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a 360, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?deangallop

Do you consider installing an operating system jumping through hoops? And I still think it would be an exclusive if a hacker magically made Reach available to all 360 owners. (lol)

made a typo read again.

Answer my other question.
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#62 Heil68
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None-I own all systems. :)
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#63 Calvin079
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I'd like to see a MGS for the DS (I've always wanted to play one)

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#64 deangallop
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a 360, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?

What hoops? Its perfectly legal to buy a win7 copy for Mac and is as easy as installing Win7 on a brand new Dell Pc without any OS ( in fact is the same freaking procedure )

The average consumer doesn't do that. They buy a Mac because that's the system OS they want or they buy a PC for that type of experience. It's a work around that's why I say it's jumping through hoops.
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#65 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]The average consumer doesn't do that. They buy a Mac because that's the system OS they want or they buy a PC for that type of experience. It's a work around that's why I say it's jumping through hoops.

Why is what the average consumer does important? Is it jumping through hoops to install an operating system onto a computer? Simple question.
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#66 Applestoapples
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FINAL FANTASY X-3. Just kidding.
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#67 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

musicalmac
Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through.
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#68 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="deangallop"]

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

deangallop

Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through.

You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all anyone has to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )

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#69 musicalmac  Moderator
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No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through. deangallop
You have to buy an operating system regardless of what you want to install it on. Installing Windows on a Mac is as easy as installing Windows on a traditional PC. It's 99% the same. There are no hoops. Every Windows game work on a Mac just fine. If it's the OS that's holding you up, go out and buy a copy of Windows 7, and try to play a game on it without first installing it onto a computer. See how it works.
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#70 rawr89
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i'd do anything to play Mario on my PS3. i could care less abut Mass Effect 2, just give me Super Mario Galaxy 2, dammit! :cry:

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#71 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"adamosmaki
No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through.

You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all you have to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )

Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

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#72 Silverbond
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I wouldn't mind having The Witcher or Crysis on my consoles.

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#73 mitu123
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Valkyria Chronicles 2!!!

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#74 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="deangallop"] No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through. deangallop

You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all you have to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )

Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

Again what has anything to do with the vast majority of MAC users Since its both legal and the same process to install Win 7 on MAC as is on a Dell its the same freaking system again Mac's use the same i5/i7 intel x86processors as someone with an Acer pc, it uses the same DDR3 memory the same nvidia cards the HD's you get the point If you buy an HP without any operating system or with a free linux Distro in order to buy it $70-80 cheaper would you not consider it a PC?
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#75 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all you have to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )adamosmaki

Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

Again what has anything to do with the vast majority of MAC users Since its both legal and the same process to install Win 7 on MAC as is on a Dell its the same freaking system again Mac's use the same i5/i7 intel x86processors as someone with an Acer pc, it uses the same DDR3 memory the same nvidia cards the HD's you get the point If you buy an HP without any operating system or with a free linux Distro in order to buy it $70-80 cheaper would you not consider it a PC?

It would be a computer sure but it wouldn't be a gaming computer, just like a MAC isn't typically a gaming computer.

People have to have Windows 7 in order to enjoy most computer games released, a lot of people do.

but most MAC users buy a MAC because they like apples interface and features, and most of them do not end up installing an extra OS, and if they want games they have to buy another OS (one that cost $200) and install it.

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#76 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'd like to see Halo Wars on PC.
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#77 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="deangallop"] No not really, because that's part of the PC experience. You know that you'll have to do that and it's not confusing or something you really have to think about. Installing another OS on your MAC is something extra, you have to buy a whole nother OS and have to use a program to get it to work. It's not something someone who isn't considered computer savy would be willing to go through. deangallop

You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all you have to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )

Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

what most people do is completly irrelevent. If its possible, its possible.

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#78 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] You dont need a program to made it work and honestly if anyone cant figure out how to install Win7 they should go back to elementary ( since the whole process its pretty much automatic and all you have to know is reading skills and an AI of at least 60 )cobrax25

Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

what most people do is completly irrelevent. If its possible, its possible.

So I pose to you a question I asked earlier, if somebody made it so PS3 owners could play Halo reach on their PS3 with maybe a hacked firmware update or something would Halo Reach be considered multiplatform?

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#79 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="deangallop"] Most MAC users don't have the extra OS installed and therefor cannot play most PC games released without having to buy a fairly expensive separate OS and using bootcamp to get it to work, so it's still jumping through hoops. and if the vast majority of MAC users can't play most PC games it should be considered as a wholly different system.

deangallop

what most people do is completly irrelevent. If its possible, its possible.

So I pose to you a question I asked earlier, if somebody made it so PS3 owners could play Halo reach on their PS3 with maybe a hacked firmware update or something would Halo Reach be considered multiplatform?

For once that would be illegal unlike installing Win7 on MAC Second installing Win7 on MAC its the same procedure as installing Win7 on HP ( a 12year old that can read can do it ) Third its impossible to do that since oh what a shock PS3 and 360 are closed platforms and the only way to do something like that is by emulation and since neither platform is 10-20x times more powerfull from the other in order for an emulator program to work it wont happen
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#80 deangallop
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I'm tired of arguing here.

I just think it's kind of funny how PC gamers on this fourm are allowed to clump together MAC and Microsofts platform togeather and just call their system "the gaming PC". Most people have either a Microsoft PC or an Apple PC. Console owners are not allowed to clump togeather the 360, Wii, and PC to make "the ultimate console" and have it be a viable recognized SW platform.

The fact that you are able to get a PC game to work on a MAC (actually your not really) doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered a seperate system.

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#81 rollermint
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="deangallop"]

So in other words...

yes you do have to jump through hoops.

deangallop

Do you consider booting your computer and installing a game "jumping through hoops?"

I think having to have a whole separate OS on your computer is jumping through hoops. If some hacker worked voodo magic and was somehow able to get Halo reach to play on a PS3, would you consider that game to now be multiplat?

Edit: typo error on first go around.

There's nothing illegal about installing Win 7 on a Mac so your analogy is totally flawed.
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#82 erglesmergle
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I was going to say starcraft 2, people on here say it's exclusive, but since it's on MAC also it's multiplat by SW rules (if it's on more the one platform it's multiplat.)

Oh wait MAC's are not seen as a different system then the PC on SW, I should go buy a couple of PC games and see if they work on MAC computers.

Sw rules contridict themselves, that's how broken they are.

deangallop

Adding a MAC in the equation is just political correctness. SC2 is exclusive.

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#83 adamosmaki
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I'm tired of arguing here.

I just think it's kind of funny how PC gamers on this fourm are allowed to clump together MAC and Microsofts platform togeather and just call their system "the gaming PC". Most people have either a Microsoft PC or an Apple PC. Console owners are not allowed to clump togeather the 360, Wii, and PC to make "the ultimate console" and have it be a viable recognized SW platform.

The fact that you are able to get a PC game to work on a MAC (actually your not really) doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered a seperate system.

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Answer 3 simple questions Can MAC play legally Pc games? Can PS3 play legally 360games or vice versa? Isnt an Hp without operating system and a MAC without OS the same freaking architercture based and both can the same way install WIN7?
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god of war and uncharted 2.

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#85 rollermint
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

I'm tired of arguing here.

I just think it's kind of funny how PC gamers on this fourm are allowed to clump together MAC and Microsofts platform togeather and just call their system "the gaming PC". Most people have either a Microsoft PC or an Apple PC. Console owners are not allowed to clump togeather the 360, Wii, and PC to make "the ultimate console" and have it be a viable recognized SW platform.

The fact that you are able to get a PC game to work on a MAC (actually your not really) doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered a seperate system.

adamosmaki
Answer 3 simple questions Can MAC play legally Pc games? Can PS3 play legally 360games or vice versa? Isnt an Hp without operating system and a MAC without OS the same freaking architercture based and both can the same way install WIN7?

He wont answer nor would he concede, dude. Thats how the forums usually work, even when multiple folks bring out bare simple facts, the other party will never ever concede their stand. People are extra stubborn on the net for some reason...some unnecessary "pride" thing going on somewhere... The only point to arguing in the internet is that you hope the silent lurkers and readers will actually learn something new from what you say...lol.
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#86 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

I'm tired of arguing here.

I just think it's kind of funny how PC gamers on this fourm are allowed to clump together MAC and Microsofts platform togeather and just call their system "the gaming PC". Most people have either a Microsoft PC or an Apple PC. Console owners are not allowed to clump togeather the 360, Wii, and PC to make "the ultimate console" and have it be a viable recognized SW platform.

The fact that you are able to get a PC game to work on a MAC (actually your not really) doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered a seperate system.

adamosmaki

Answer 3 simple questions Can MAC play legally Pc games? Can PS3 play legally 360games or vice versa? Isnt an Hp without operating system and a MAC without OS the same freaking architercture based and both can the same way install WIN7?

1.) A computer can play a PC game as long as they have a windows OS installed, but a computer with only a Apple OS can not.

2.) It was an example to show you that a PC with a MS OS is different from one with Aplle's OS, I don't actually think all 3 platforms should be combined into one super console.

3.) The fact that you can run any OS on that computer doesn't mean that a MAC and MS PC are not different. A PS3 inside an XBOX design is still a PS3 and not an XBOX 360(another example/hypothetical.)

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#87 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="deangallop"]

I'm tired of arguing here.

I just think it's kind of funny how PC gamers on this fourm are allowed to clump together MAC and Microsofts platform togeather and just call their system "the gaming PC". Most people have either a Microsoft PC or an Apple PC. Console owners are not allowed to clump togeather the 360, Wii, and PC to make "the ultimate console" and have it be a viable recognized SW platform.

The fact that you are able to get a PC game to work on a MAC (actually your not really) doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered a seperate system.

rollermint

Answer 3 simple questions Can MAC play legally Pc games? Can PS3 play legally 360games or vice versa? Isnt an Hp without operating system and a MAC without OS the same freaking architercture based and both can the same way install WIN7?

He wont answer nor would he concede, dude. Thats how the forums usually work, even when multiple folks bring out bare simple facts, the other party will never ever concede their stand. People are extra stubborn on the net for some reason...some unnecessary "pride" thing going on somewhere... The only point to arguing in the internet is that you hope the silent lurkers and readers will actually learn something new from what you say...lol.

i know dude and i spend 20 minutes that i'm never getting back :evil:

but since we are on the subject games i wish were on my system of choice i would really love to see bayonetta and Gran tourismo 5/forza 3

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civ 5 on 360 or ps3, i guess :P

i already have all the consoles. but no pc :P

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#89 AAllxxjjnn
Member since 2008 • 19992 Posts
uhh...all of them? If i have to choose like 3 it would be Kingdoms, Gears 3, and Uncharted 2.
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#90 lawlessx
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i'd like the total war series on consoles..
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#91 Vader993
Member since 2010 • 7533 Posts

i want reach on the ps3 thats only game i want from xbox

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#92 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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i'd like the total war series on consoles..lawlessx
lolwut. You serious?
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#93 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Halo Reach, Gears of War 3, Infamous, and Demon's Souls on PC please.
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#94 coltsfan4ever
Member since 2006 • 2628 Posts

I've seen people (unabashed Fanboys generally) on SW always going on about the amazing exclusives on their particular platform that they have nothing but praise for go on to bash other platforms exclusives simply because they're not available on their PS3 or 360 or whatever.

They could be amazing games but they pretend that they have no interest. Say Halo Reach was released on PS3 or PC :o, alot of the people who said " Oh, Halo is generic and for noobs anyway, we don't need it on the PS3 " would go out and buy it. And probably love it. Exclusives are often the most targeted titles for bashings and comparisons.

In other words, what titles would you love to play on your 360/PS3/PC even though you might have said that its " textures were a bit poor " or " they're really milkin it!!1! " just in order to downplay it even though you were secretly interested(Jealous even?! :P).

So I was wondering, after all the "KZ2 is bland" and "Alan Wake=floppage" what titles from other platforms would you love to have on your own? And for the sake of the discussion Wii titles can be included and we'll assume that all platfroms have the same technical capabilities e.g. Crysis can be easily rendered on the 360.

I personally would love to see a bit of Heavy Rain and MGS4 on the 360. And Crysis ( just to see what all the fuss is about :P).

.....GO!

balfe1990

Alan Wake on ps3. seriously thats like the only game Im remotely interested in on the 360. shame it didnt sell too well. MS really dropped the ball by not advertising the hell out of this game.

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#95 coltsfan4ever
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i'd like the total war series on consoles..lawlessx
I wonder how it would play with Move support.:shock:

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#96 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]i'd like the total war series on consoles..coltsfan4ever

I wonder how it would play with Move support.:shock:

Terribly. It would be an abomination.
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#97 gandaf007
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I would like Halo Reach on the PC.

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#98 DivineSword  Moderator
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I wouldn't mind having Demon's Souls on the PC.

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#99 monson21502
Member since 2009 • 8230 Posts

mario, punch out. and maybe pokemon.i own a ps3 and 360 those are the only nes games i really want

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#100 Phaze-Two
Member since 2009 • 3444 Posts

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

I was going to say starcraft 2, people on here say it's exclusive, but since it's on MAC also it's multiplat by SW rules (if it's on more the one platform it's multiplat.)

Oh wait MAC's are not seen as a different system then the PC on SW, I should go buy a couple of PC games and see if they work on MAC computers.

Sw rules contridict themselves, that's how broken they are.

musicalmac

You're welcome not to continue posting, then.

Or ya know he could keep posting whatver he wants as long as it doesn't break the TOS. btw does this whole "you don't like it? then leave!" mentalitly really encourage discussion?

I think it would be better if we evaluated these so called "rules" by discussing them.