Fable 2 is really VASTLY IMPRESSIVE both visually and in gameplay !!!

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#1 saolin323
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It is definatly one of the most visually amazing game, and the most innovative and feature full RPG i have ever known to date

It is so far from the standard RPG affair, with games like Mass effect, Gothic, Witcher etc, that mekes those titles seem old and tired comparing IMO

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Fable 2 feature list

. Movie Like Combat in Real Time - Live the movie like combat in real time without health points or bars. Now, only one cut of a sword can become a mortal blow for your enemy. However, if you miss your blow, your life will be nothing more than a memory.

· Character Transformation - Fable 2 enhances the innovative system which consists of transforming your character according to your actions. Your look depends on two dimensions: the good and evil, and now also by nobility and corruption. Good deeds and evil deeds will modify your physical look, but with corrupted deeds, for example, to drink too much, or noble deeds, for example, to work hard in your employment, will modify the look even more. Where your friend's evil hero could be a slim and fine young man and as threatening as Dracula, who has made evil and noble deeds, your hero could be as hideous and malicious as Quasimodo following his corrupted ways.

· Reacting World - Day and night cycle mark the passage of time. Watch as the spring, the summer, the autumn and the winter go by. As the years pass, see the effects of your actions in the world. See how a village develops and thrives through the years. Sow terror among the inhabitants and see the village being reduced and finally become a ruin and a ghost town. In this world, even a modest purchase will transform the local economy.

· Life of the Hero - Live a life of a hero, from childhood to old age. Will you become a nice muscular colossus, or a master-robber?
Would you like to become a covetous big landowner, a champion who sacrifices themselves for the masses or to simply direct a modest inn to provide for the needs for your family? You decide.

· Man's Best Friend - Your best friend in the world will be a faithful four-legged companion. A pup that will reach adulthood as you do. By giving him compliments and by punishing it, he grows into a frightening attack dog, a playmate to impress the others, or a partner, who, thanks to his sense of smell, will avoid problems and help you find treasures. Observe as your best friend transforms to reflect what kind of hero you are.

· Use the Environment to Your Advantage - Fight on a shaking rope bridge, and unbalance your enemies so they fall the over edge to their death. Fight in a narrow cave passage and resist the attempts of your adversaries to surround you and realize that the very low walls and ceiling
constitute serious obstacles. Fight when you're surprised and you are likely to be surrounded. The location of battle will play an essential part for your survival.

· The fair sex - Play the game while begin a heroine. You can even get pregnant.

· Customization - Choose your sex, the color of your eyes and you are ready to play. Also, you can personalize your character like you want: let the hair or beard grow, change the color of your clothing, get tattoos, buy accessories, dye and cut your hair, or even do make up.
Create the hero or the heroine, you wish to be.

· Careers - When you are not doing an epic RPG quest to kill the baddies and to progress in the game, stop for moment to test one of the various careers in the game. Hero's job doesn't always pay that well, so there are many means of increasing your income while working part-time. Perhaps you would like to become professional gladiator for one day, or a barkeeper, or a blacksmith, a gambler, or a farmer or even a burglar. It is for you to choose what you do and it is always possible to earn money by doing things simultaneously.

· Offline Multiplayer - Those who don't have an access to the Internet can always play together by bringing their hero in their friend's world (via a memorycard) and by transforming it into a spirit, a powerful creature which can fight the monsters, cure friends, curse the enemies, divert the masses, find hidden treasures and take the place of the main hero when the action becomes too hard!

· Online Multiplayer - Join a group of players sharing the same interests and objectives, which can appear in their respective world in the capacity as "phantoms", share resources, fight each other in very diverse challenges, bury treasures so that the other players can find them in turns, to trade objects and much more.

· For each choice a consequence - Discover the causes and the effects behind each of your actions. Eliminate all the inhabitants from a city and become a wanted fugitive and disguise yourself to escape from the police. Make yourself an idiot and notice that everyone shows you the finger, makes fun of you and that nobody will give you any serious work. Have sex like there's no tomorrow and discover that you became a father or a mother, if you didn't use protection.

· Freedom - It's a world of adventures: give up on the roads and travel through fields to surprise your enemies, swim across the lakes and dive in to find treasures, pass by the windows and the balconies in an immense tactile world.

Fable 2 confirmed features list so far

World

-There is a small campsite in the middle of a large forest called Brightwood.
-Bowerstone returns for Fable 2.
-Bowerstone has different districts, such as the slums district and the rich district, as well as a merchant street.
-Each tree, as well as the tree's branches and leaves, are animated individually according to their own unique physics.
-Albion is 10 times larger than in the first Fable.
-Each tree in Fable 2 has roughly 120,000 leaves each.
-There are around 15 million poppies in Albion.

Features

-A second player can come in and out of the game at any time as a guest. This player keeps all gold and experience they earn and takes it with them back to their own game world.
The host can determine what share the guest gets of the gold and experience gamed when the guest is in their world.
-Guest players will get an hourly rate of pay for helping the host out.
-Guest players can kill the host player's family.
-NPC's will be able to recognize and respond to any guest playing with the main player. For example, if you have an evil guest with you and you're a good character, people will react accordingly.
-If you go into another persons game as a guest the look of the character will be based off of your character's look. If you don't have a character of your own you'll have a generic pre-determined look to your hero.
-The host can give the guest items to take back with them to their own game.
-Demon Doors are returning for Fable 2 and are still only opened by meeting certain requirements or performing certain actions. Some can only be opened in co-op.
-The game world will alter according to your interactions with it. If you trade with a small camp you may find that it's given the camp the push it needs to turn into a small settlement in the next 10 years.
-Good and evil are being tracked as well as rich and poor, and both can affect your physical appearance and how the world reacts around you.
-Morphing is going to have a large part in Fable 2, with the different morphs relying on , , corruption, purity, strength, will, and more.
-Experience is affected everytime the player passes out or collapses during a fight.
-Because so many people played as good characters in the first game it's going to be more difficult to be good in Fable 2.
-A dog is going to be the main characters main companion in the game from near the beginning on forward.
-You can use expressions towards the dog to help train it.
-The expression system is back for the main character, including some expressions such as "flirt" and "pose", among others.
-You will have no direct control over the dog.
-You can play with your dog, such as throwing it a ball to play fetch.
-Your dog works with with you to alert you of danger, hidden areas, and assists you in combat.
-Your dog will morph according to your actions as a player. If you're a good character your dog will look pleasant. If you're an evil character your dog will appear scary.
-If you go into a fight with your sword drawn your dog will attack the gun-wielding enemies first and vice versa.
-You can feed your dog but you're not responsible for feeding him.
-If you overfeed your dog it can become fat.
-The lower your health is the closer the dog will stay to you rather than venturing off further down the path.
-A gambling mini-game called KeyStone (a cross between roulette and craps) will be released before the release of Fable 2 on Xbox Live. Any money won in the game can then be imported into Fable 2. This game will cost points to download in advance but will be included for free in Fable 2.
-You'll get more experience for a good "****" of fighting and less experience for "button mashing".
-Instead of picking up gold from enemies you'll have to rely on getting gold from gambling or various jobs offered around the world. You will also get no gold for completing quests.
-Jobs you can have include blacksmith, farmer, assasin, and henchmen.
-The more you work at a job the more your skill in that job will increase.
-Village shops will offer you free items as thanks if you happen to have saved that village from a particular evil.
-When you marry somebody you become a part of that community.
-You can have a dowry during marriage.
-Due to marriage you can have a father-in-law.
-Instead of mini-maps there will be a new breadcrumb trail.
-If your spouse is killed your son or daughter will have to go to an orphanage.
-You can purchase and own any building in the game, ranging from dungeons, houses, inns, to castles.
-Most buildings or structures you can buy have specific quests associated with them.
-You can play as a male or female.
-You can get married and have children.
-Just as in the first game same-sex marriage is possible.
-The appearance of your children will be determined by the appearance of your spouse as well as that of yourself.
-If you leave home for too long your family will react accordingly upon your return, either by being very happy you're back or by being upset that you've been gone for so long.
-If you're evil your child will exhibit evil characteristics. If you're good your child will exhibit good characteristics.
-As the breadwinner of your family you will be responsible for your families survival by making sure they have enough money to eat, etc.
-You can have protected or unprotected sex.
-If you play as a female character you can become pregnant.
-Combat will be used via a one-button system. There will be one button for your sword, one for gun, and another for magic. This kind of combat is based off of timing and positioning of the character.
-Combat will be position oriented; your character will interact with the environment around him to help him fight.
-You can pick up and throw bottles at enemies.
-Your combat ****will change according to the kind of weapon you're using.
-The player will unlock more skills and combos with particular weapons as they become better at fighting.
-Aside from swords and magic the player can use guns.
-The player can use a more accurate aim with a crosshair during gameplay.
-Hobbes will be making a return for Fable 2.
-While Peter says you can complete the main story in 12 hours if you rush through it it would much longer to do everything in the game.

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I hope you're paid to do things like this.
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#3 Stonin
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Did you really need to make this thread instead of posting in the other one? I'm boycotting you by not reading what you have to say :P.
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will buy along with too human, nj2 and geow2
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Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.
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#6 blackice1983
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Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.Dynafrom

unfinished?

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[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.blackice1983

unfinished?

You expect it to be any better? You people said the same thing about ME's framerate.

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Did you really need to make this thread instead of posting in the other one? I'm boycotting you by not reading what you have to say :P.Stonin

What other one, the one bashing it, for damage control ?

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i'm far from convinced.
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.Dynafrom

unfinished?

You expect it to be any better? You people said the same thing about ME's framerate.

You people? i havent played mass effect yet because i always play their games on the pc;)

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#11 Anti-Gamer
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:lol: @ Innovation.

Anyway, i hope the game is linear, i don't like open worlds.

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While I think it would be fun and great, it won't be an amazing RPG(kinda like Oblivion)
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#14 saolin323
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i'm far from convinced.Always-Honest

Could you be more creative at least ? That is more specific ?

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#15 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]Did you really need to make this thread instead of posting in the other one? I'm boycotting you by not reading what you have to say :P.saolin323

What other one, the one bashing it, for damage control ?

Yes, that one. Now shoo ;).

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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.Dynafrom

unfinished?

You expect it to be any better? You people said the same thing about ME's framerate.

And what's your point?
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While I think it would be fun and great, it won't be an amazing RPG(kinda like Oblivion)Lonelynight

It will definatly not be boring, with same quests, same places to see, same dungeons and brain dead NPC's like Oblivion

Generic boredom is DEFINATLY not what Fable 2 will be like, get ready for a REAL dynamic world, with real lively NPC's, unique places to see at every step, uniqu quests etc

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The actual fact that you can get pregnant and that it affects your ability as a character (provided that you are female), should already scream innovation and intriguing game mechanics at any person. You've either got to be an idiot or an even bigger idiot not to see that. Or a fanboy. Let me explain. If something such as the pregnancy feature was included in Dragon Age, hermits would have been all over the game like it's a hot import model. If the co-op features were instead implemented for Final Fantasy XIII, you can bet cows would be saying it's game over for the 360 and Wii period. But alas, it's Fable 2 which is primarily being made for the 360. The 'downfall' of PC gaming due to multi plat releases, and the automatic rival to Sony's wonder child. Of course it's going to be bashed to hell and back.
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]While I think it would be fun and great, it won't be an amazing RPG(kinda like Oblivion)saolin323

It will definatly not be boring, with same quests, same places to see, same dungeons and brain dead NPC's like Oblivion

Generic boredom is DEFINATLY not what Fable 2 will be like, get ready for a REAL dynamic world, with real lively NPC's, unique places to see at every step, uniqu quests etc

Do you work for Lionhead or something? Or do you just worship them? If you want a realy dynamic world go play Fallout 2

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The media is going to have a field day over the content of this game. I smell another "seXbox" segment on Fox News.
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The actual fact that you can get pregnant and that it affects your ability as a character (provided that you are female), should already scream innovation and intriguing game mechanics at any person. You've either got to be an idiot or an even bigger idiot not to see that. Or a fanboy. Let me explain. If something such as the pregnancy feature was included in Dragon Age, hermits would have been all over the game like it's a hot import model. If the co-op features were instead implemented for Final Fantasy XIII, you can bet cows would be saying it's game over for the 360 and Wii period. But alas, it's Fable 2 which is primarily being made for the 360. The 'downfall' of PC gaming due to multi plat releases, and the automatic rival to Sony's wonder child. Of course it's going to be bashed to hell and back.FrozenLiquid

Does being pregnet actually affect the gameplay? If yes then how does it affect it?

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You can actually have multiple wives, and multiple kids housed in each of your 100-200 houses, castles etc

Imagine filling a whole town with your offsprings, and as you ener they all come at you, sreaming with joy, hyping the noble hero !!!!

I just can't wait

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[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="blackice1983"]

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Game looks OK. Look at the ground and framerate ugh.JPOBS

unfinished?

You expect it to be any better? You people said the same thing about ME's framerate.

And what's your point?

What? Are you that **** to not look at the post?

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The actual fact that you can get pregnant and that it affects your ability as a character (provided that you are female), should already scream innovation and intriguing game mechanics at any person. You've either got to be an idiot or an even bigger idiot not to see that. Or a fanboy. Let me explain. If something such as the pregnancy feature was included in Dragon Age, hermits would have been all over the game like it's a hot import model. If the co-op features were instead implemented for Final Fantasy XIII, you can bet cows would be saying it's game over for the 360 and Wii period. But alas, it's Fable 2 which is primarily being made for the 360. The 'downfall' of PC gaming due to multi plat releases, and the automatic rival to Sony's wonder child. Of course it's going to be bashed to hell and back.Lonelynight

Does being pregnet actually affect the gameplay? If yes then how does it affect it?

Ask saolin, because I don't know the exact details. Though I think common sense would tell us you shouldn't be engaging in battles whilst you're carrying a child :P
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You can actually have multiple wives, and multiple kids housed in each of your 100-200 houses, castles etc

Imagine filling a whole town with your offsprings, and as you ener they all come at you, sreaming with joy, hyping the noble hero !!!!

I just can't wait

saolin323

Can I use them to do stuff for me(like send them out to fight) ? Or do they just praise me?

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]The actual fact that you can get pregnant and that it affects your ability as a character (provided that you are female), should already scream innovation and intriguing game mechanics at any person. You've either got to be an idiot or an even bigger idiot not to see that. Or a fanboy. Let me explain. If something such as the pregnancy feature was included in Dragon Age, hermits would have been all over the game like it's a hot import model. If the co-op features were instead implemented for Final Fantasy XIII, you can bet cows would be saying it's game over for the 360 and Wii period. But alas, it's Fable 2 which is primarily being made for the 360. The 'downfall' of PC gaming due to multi plat releases, and the automatic rival to Sony's wonder child. Of course it's going to be bashed to hell and back.FrozenLiquid

Does being pregnet actually affect the gameplay? If yes then how does it affect it?

Ask saolin, because I don't know the exact details. Though I think common sense would tell us you shouldn't be engaging in battles whilst you're carrying a child :P

I imagine it would just skip through it after being pregnet for sometime

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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

You can actually have multiple wives, and multiple kids housed in each of your 100-200 houses, castles etc

Imagine filling a whole town with your offsprings, and as you ener they all come at you, sreaming with joy, hyping the noble hero !!!!

I just can't wait

Lonelynight

Can I use them to do stuff for me(like send them out to fight) ? Or do they just praise me?

I do not know that, i doubt they can, but nothing is certain

Actually kids want from you, not give you, as in real life that is

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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

You can actually have multiple wives, and multiple kids housed in each of your 100-200 houses, castles etc

Imagine filling a whole town with your offsprings, and as you ener they all come at you, sreaming with joy, hyping the noble hero !!!!

I just can't wait

Lonelynight

Can I use them to do stuff for me(like send them out to fight) ? Or do they just praise me?

I'm pretty sure they emotionally affect you. Whilst people will call that a gimmick, or not innovative, or whatever, How the hell are games going to evolve if they're going to remain stagnant in that respect? I think I might've just understood the pregnancy thing. Even if it doesn't have gameplay changing effects (which I seriously doubt it wouldn't), I'm pretty sure it's meant to affect you psychologically. As Peter Molyneux said, he can finally sympathize with women. Think about it: You're carrying a child for nine months in-game. You've seen him growing up right before you eyes. Then something bad happens and he dies. That would definitely upset you. And I think that's really tackling the essence of "role playing".
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

You can actually have multiple wives, and multiple kids housed in each of your 100-200 houses, castles etc

Imagine filling a whole town with your offsprings, and as you ener they all come at you, sreaming with joy, hyping the noble hero !!!!

I just can't wait

FrozenLiquid

Can I use them to do stuff for me(like send them out to fight) ? Or do they just praise me?

I'm pretty sure they emotionally affect you. Whilst people will call that a gimmick, or not innovative, or whatever, How the hell are games going to evolve if they're going to remain stagnant in that respect? I think I might've just understood the pregnancy thing. Even if it doesn't have gameplay changing effects (which I seriously doubt it wouldn't), I'm pretty sure it's meant to affect you psychologically. As Peter Molyneux said, he can finally sympathize with women. Think about it: You're carrying a child for nine months in-game. You've seen him growing up right before you eyes. Then something bad happens and he dies. That would definitely upset you. And I think that's really tackling the essence of "role playing".

I just hope theres actualy depth in this kinds of stuff, just not something there just for the sack of being there

Edit: I forgot to say, that video games have nor will affect me psychologically, I laugh at sad parts in a game because I find it corny no matter how real it feel and looks, and if the kid die in the game I would just get kinda pist off because I wasted my time with him

I do not know that, i doubt they can, but nothing is certain

Actually kids want from you, not give you, as in real life that is

saolin323

Maybe in the west

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#30 saolin323
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Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

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Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

saolin323

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

Lonelynight

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

Fallout 2 ? hahahahaha, no you play Fallout 2, i will play Fable 2

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#33 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

saolin323

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

Fallout 2 ? hahahahaha, no you play Fallout 2, i will play Fable 2

So you never played it? Or anyother great WRPGs? (example: The Witcher, Baulder's Gate 1 and 2, Vampire the Masquerade, Neverwinter Night)

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#34 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

Lonelynight

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

Fallout 2 ? hahahahaha, no you play Fallout 2, i will play Fable 2

So you never played it? Or anyother great WRPGs? (example: The Witcher, Baulder's Gate 1 and 2, Vampire the Masquerade, Neverwinter Night)

wheres kotor

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Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).
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#36 blackice1983
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Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).Erkidu
what? joking i hope theirs was nothing but fog and barly any effects when they first showed off the dog
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

Lonelynight

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

Fallout 2 ? hahahahaha, no you play Fallout 2, i will play Fable 2

So you never played it? Or anyother great WRPGs? (example: The Witcher, Baulder's Gate 1 and 2, Vampire the Masquerade, Neverwinter Night)

He doesn't have to play those games to form an opinion about Fable 2. Since he isn't comparing it to either of those titles you mentioned whats the point of mentioning them?

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#38 Lonelynight
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wheres kotor

blackice1983

I'm just giving examples, not listing every great WRPGs

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Goddamn what a good looking game Fable 2.
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#40 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]

wheres kotor

Lonelynight

I'm just giving examples, not listing every great WRPGs

oh okay.

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#41 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"]Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).blackice1983
what? joking i hope theirs was nothing but fog and barly any effects when they first showed off the dog

That's not the footage I'm referring to. I'm referring to the "real-time" footage Molyneux showed that wasn't gameplay. It was a series of flybys - and it looked ALOT better than what is shown in the latest gameplay vids. I own and love my 360 - but there is really no denying that.
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#42 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Beeing part of the world, is of great importance to me, and no RPG is doing it so far, only Fable 2 is going to, and i am GLAD, at last i will not play through a game, but play IN a game

That is probably going to be my best RPG of all times as it shapes to be, you can have families, jobs, castles, 150 varied quests, varied fairy tale BEAUTIFULL scenery, ever changing with day/night cyclres, seasons, weather, sun beams and shadows moving like in Crysis, lively NPC that fear you, gather to hype your name, etc

It makes ANY other title i know is coming, look ordinary and boring for me

Lonelynight

Like I said, go play Fallout 2

Fallout 2 ? hahahahaha, no you play Fallout 2, i will play Fable 2

So you never played it? Or anyother great WRPGs? (example: The Witcher, Baulder's Gate 1 and 2, Vampire the Masquerade, Neverwinter Night)

I have played them ALL, THAT IS EXACTLY why i would hate yet another more of the same game, i agree Fallout was a more diverse and open world than most, but the core gameplay is still more of the same, nothing as diverse and dynamic as Fable 2, do not forget we are talking next gen dynamic world, a read 3D world, not 2D stuff

Witcher is a good game too, but REALLY nothing like what i like in fable 2, it got boring fast, the controls are far from perfect,and the world FAR from lively and interactive, generally not even miles close to what Fable 2 offers, just the STANDARD ORDINARY RPG affair, nothing more

Same for Mass Effect, yes you are sucked in by the story, but again feel shallow in the end, you feel like "and now what am i doing here", while in Fable 2 you can play for life

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If pregnancy is so important for you xbox fanboy, there is the sims 2 on the pc O_o you can have a baby and even a dog. Seriously if you are going to hype this aspect of the game, I feel extremely bad for you.

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#44 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Erkidu"]Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).Erkidu
what? joking i hope theirs was nothing but fog and barly any effects when they first showed off the dog

That's not the footage I'm referring to. I'm referring to the "real-time" footage Molyneux showed that wasn't gameplay. It was a series of flybys - and it looked ALOT better than what is shown in the latest gameplay vids. I own and love my 360 - but there is really no denying that.

i havevt seen those vids. but the game looks great regardless.

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#45 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Erkidu"]Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).blackice1983

what? joking i hope theirs was nothing but fog and barly any effects when they first showed off the dog

That's not the footage I'm referring to. I'm referring to the "real-time" footage Molyneux showed that wasn't gameplay. It was a series of flybys - and it looked ALOT better than what is shown in the latest gameplay vids. I own and love my 360 - but there is really no denying that.

i havevt seen those vids. but the game looks great regardless.

I absolutely agree. I think it looks brilliant.
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Is saolin323 Peter Molyneux's account?

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He doesn't have to play those games to form an opinion about Fable 2. Since he isn't comparing it to either of those titles you mentioned whats the point of mentioning them?

Adrian_Cloud

He says its going to be his best RPG, so I ask him to play Fallout 2(which is called the greatest RPG of all time by many) so I won't take an opinion of a person who haven't played most of those games

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I just hope theres actualy depth in this kinds of stuff, just not something there just for the sack of being there

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Depends what you mean by "depth". Are you asking how many keyboard strokes or gameplay designs are in Fable 2 as to make the game feel more involved on a superficial level? I think at this point in time you can only go so far in terms of gameplay 'depth'. Developers are now looking for ways to emotionally involve players. It's what's separating the 'casual' games from the games we are calling 'art'. If you want to feel 'involved' or 'immersed' in a game, there's only so much you can do with how many button presses you're going to need to accomplish a certain goal. Simple logic tells us though that the more work you have to exert the more 'involved' you become in a game; simply clicking the mouse button wouldn't logically give us a sense of involvement. But that's deceiving. And yet perhaps the most 'immersive' game I've ever played is probably The Sims 2. Laugh all you want, but seriously you care for the family you're bringing up. And it's a sad thing when they die from old age or in a fire or something. Of course RPGs are incredibly immersive, and their sense of involvement does not stem from technical skill but from story, and character, and everything else related. Once you 'feel' for the characters and their place in the world, that's where the stuff of legend comes from. So what's it matter if Fable 2 is trying to achieve the same objectives using a different philosophy? Take for example the 'one button' attack. To everyone it may seem incredibly absurd. I mean, how much are you getting out of one button? But you must look at it from Lionhead's perspective. Apart from making it easy to pick up and play, how is one button really inferior to multiple buttons? "Strong attack" button. "Weak Attack" button. "Special (uses mana)" button. I'm not sure if the combat is realtime/reflex based or has a stats-roll under the hood, but even if it was the latter, it's still not really hindered in any way. Then you must understand what combat really means for this type of game. When I played KotOR II today, I had a revelation that the combat was merely just an indicator of character progression. You're watching the character evolve, or 'level up' as the story unfolds. Sure, there were some tactics involved (since it's a d20 game), but really, what's the difference between "Force Lightning" and "Force Push"? Both pretty much achieve the same goal of defeating the enemy. But both are psychologically different. I'm sure people have "felt it" when they see the animation of a hostile choke to death by the power of the Dark Side, have they not? So in that respect, I think Fable 2 is achieving the same goals other games of its type have done before using a different means. And with these all-new innovative features, it's pushing the envelope even further. Let me stress though that I do not believe Fable 2 will annihilate all competition, as it inherently cannot. It's an action-RPG, not a 'full-blooded' RPG. It's not in direct competition with Baldur's Gate or Morrowind, but those types of games can, and most probably will, learn a thing or two from Fable 2; just like it learned from them.
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I have played them ALL, THAT IS EXACTLY why i would hate yet another more of the same game, i agree Fallout was a more diverse and open world than most, but the core gameplay is still more of the same, nothing as diverse and dynamic as Fable 2, do not forget we are talking next gen dynamic world, a read 3D world, not 2D stuff

Witcher is a good game too, but REALLY nothing like what i like in fable 2, it got boring fast, the controls are far from perfect,and the world FAR from lively and interactive, generally not even miles close to what Fable 2 offers, just the STANDARD ORDINARY RPG affair, nothing more

Same for Mass Effect, yes you are sucked in by the story, but again feel shallow in the end, you feel like "and now what am i doing here", while in Fable 2 you can play for life

saolin323

I see what your saying, but I personnaly don't think those features would be as good as you describe it, and ignore my other post about you not playing those games

If pregnancy is so important for you xbox fanboy, there is the sims 2 on the pc O_o you can have a baby and even a dog. Seriously if you are going to hype this aspect of the game, I feel extremely bad for you.

Franko_3

It kinda feels like they are making a Fable 2 into a actionRPG/Sims

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#50 saolin323
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Erkidu"]Looks good - though, there is definitely a downgrade there from the first time Molyneux revealed footage (very noticeable in the foliage).Erkidu
what? joking i hope theirs was nothing but fog and barly any effects when they first showed off the dog

That's not the footage I'm referring to. I'm referring to the "real-time" footage Molyneux showed that wasn't gameplay. It was a series of flybys - and it looked ALOT better than what is shown in the latest gameplay vids. I own and love my 360 - but there is really no denying that.

Is that a joke ? That NEW !!! forest pic, looks every bit as good at the old fly by forest, and TBH 100x better, with even more detail, flowers, sun beams found ONLY in Crysis so far

The game has got a HUGE upgrade sine the last fly by, sorry but you are just wrong

And the co-op show case area, as Peter said was NOT ready, the forest pic is how the game will be when full detail has gone in that level, the game has 9 months to go you know, and the co-op level was just there to show how co-op will be, not graphics

All inall, the game is VASTLY upgraded than the last f;y by video AND has 9 months to get even better