Fable 2 is really VASTLY IMPRESSIVE both visually and in gameplay !!!

My point is, if your son promises you an A+ on his report card and gives you a A-, that's still really good. Also i dont really see things that are in the game right now being taken out, you have to remember that one of the reason why things were cut for fable 1 was the limitations of the xbox.killtactics

I am not going to discuss this with you. Peter always overstates thing. ALWAYS. The best thing that MS could do is gag him and sit him in an office to just make the game. Then, people would appreciate what is there more. His games are good, but the feature-list that was posted by the TC... Well, don't get your hopes up.

Fable 2 feature list

. Movie Like Combat in Real Time - Live the movie like combat in real time without health points or bars. Now, only one cut of a sword can become a mortal blow for your enemy. However, if you miss your blow, your life will be nothing more than a memory.

This is very similar to Jade Empires combat system.

· Character Transformation - Fable 2 enhances the innovative system which consists of transforming your character according to your actions. Your look depends on two dimensions: the good and evil, and now also by nobility and corruption. Good deeds and evil deeds will modify your physical look, but with corrupted deeds, for example, to drink too much, or noble deeds, for example, to work hard in your employment, will modify the look even more. Where your friend's evil hero could be a slim and fine young man and as threatening as Dracula, who has made evil and noble deeds, your hero could be as hideous and malicious as Quasimodo following his corrupted ways.

I find this feature totaly useless, simply because it follows stereotypes. I find it boring that corrupt/evil characters become hideous/ugly while rightous/good characters become radiant/beautiful. It would be much better to have the characters looks be determined by the effects adventuring has on them.

· Reacting World - Day and night cycle mark the passage of time. Watch as the spring, the summer, the autumn and the winter go by. As the years pass, see the effects of your actions in the world. See how a village develops and thrives through the years. Sow terror among the inhabitants and see the village being reduced and finally become a ruin and a ghost town. In this world, even a modest purchase will transform the local economy.

Day/Night cycle is very old, though I am interested to see how seasons effect the environment (e.g would there be some passes that will be treacherous/difficult to get through depending on the season or will seasons have only a visual effect on the game)

· Life of the Hero - Live a life of a hero, from childhood to old age. Will you become a nice muscular colossus, or a master-robber?
Would you like to become a covetous big landowner, a champion who sacrifices themselves for the masses or to simply direct a modest inn to provide for the needs for your family? You decide.

If this is anything like Fable, age will have no effect on the character except how he/she looks. Also will they do what they did in Fable where your aging is capped at a certain age?

· Man's Best Friend - Your best friend in the world will be a faithful four-legged companion. A pup that will reach adulthood as you do. By giving him compliments and by punishing it, he grows into a frightening attack dog, a playmate to impress the others, or a partner, who, thanks to his sense of smell, will avoid problems and help you find treasures. Observe as your best friend transforms to reflect what kind of hero you are.

Altho an animal companion is nothing new I am actually interested to see how well this will work in Fable 2. From what I have seen it seems like it was implemented well.

· Use the Environment to Your Advantage - Fight on a shaking rope bridge, and unbalance your enemies so they fall the over edge to their death. Fight in a narrow cave passage and resist the attempts of your adversaries to surround you and realize that the very low walls and ceiling
constitute serious obstacles. Fight when you're surprised and you are likely to be surrounded. The location of battle will play an essential part for your survival.

I havent seen any of this in gameplay so I can not comment much on it. If they pull it off and if the environment is as much a danger to you as it is to your enemies instead of just another means of killing enemies it will be interesting (e.g. if you are fighting on a rope bridge, your enemy should be able to unbalance you and make you fall over the edge to your death, making the rope bridge as much a danger to you as to your enemy, so that more agile characters would fight on the bridge against heavier opponents while heavy opponents might prefer to quickly get of the bridge and fight on more solid grounds)

· The fair sex - Play the game while begin a heroine. You can even get pregnant.

This is one feature I think is overblown. I mean for a long time now almost all WRPGs have had the option to play as a female. Now while the ability for your character to get pregnant might seem interesting, from what I have heard so far all that happens is you miss a year of your life and then get back to adventuring. What is the big deal in this espcially since you will be leaving your child as soon as you are able to without a second thought.

· Customization - Choose your sex, the color of your eyes and you are ready to play. Also, you can personalize your character like you want: let the hair or beard grow, change the color of your clothing, get tattoos, buy accessories, dye and cut your hair, or even do make up.
Create the hero or the heroine, you wish to be.

Again nothing new here, games as old as Buldar's Gate alloud you to do this.

· Careers - When you are not doing an epic RPG quest to kill the baddies and to progress in the game, stop for moment to test one of the various careers in the game. Hero's job doesn't always pay that well, so there are many means of increasing your income while working part-time. Perhaps you would like to become professional gladiator for one day, or a barkeeper, or a blacksmith, a gambler, or a farmer or even a burglar. It is for you to choose what you do and it is always possible to earn money by doing things simultaneously.

As for jobs are you kidding me? This is something that is in WoW (which I seem to recall someone ragging on not too long ago). At least in WoW the economy was much more robust and the jobs themselves were more fleshed out, while here it will play out as minigames.

· Offline Multiplayer - Those who don't have an access to the Internet can always play together by bringing their hero in their friend's world (via a memorycard) and by transforming it into a spirit, a powerful creature which can fight the monsters, cure friends, curse the enemies, divert the masses, find hidden treasures and take the place of the main hero when the action becomes too hard!

While this is interesting one thing that struck me as odd in the demo was the apsense of the second players dog. Now I dont know if this was because the second player somehow got his dog killed (which is strange since I heard somewhere that your dog will not die) or the second player cant bring along his dog. Also I will point out this is nothing new BG on the PS2 had the same thing.

· Online Multiplayer - Join a group of players sharing the same interests and objectives, which can appear in their respective world in the capacity as "phantoms", share resources, fight each other in very diverse challenges, bury treasures so that the other players can find them in turns, to trade objects and much more.

Now this is a bit more interesting since I dont think there has been an online multiplayer RPG on the console (not counting MMOs).

· For each choice a consequence - Discover the causes and the effects behind each of your actions. Eliminate all the inhabitants from a city and become a wanted fugitive and disguise yourself to escape from the police. Make yourself an idiot and notice that everyone shows you the finger, makes fun of you and that nobody will give you any serious work. Have sex like there's no tomorrow and discover that you became a father or a mother, if you didn't use protection.

I hate to repeat myself but again nothing new here. I think that most people will find the Witcher is better at this since its cause and effect is not quite as black and white as other RPGs (including I suspect Fable 2)

· Freedom - It's a world of adventures: give up on the roads and travel through fields to surprise your enemies, swim across the lakes and dive in to find treasures, pass by the windows and the balconies in an immense tactile world.

We still have to see just how much freedom you will have in this game. From what I saw of the demo you are still confined to where you can travel by roads, and dont have nearly the same amount of freedom as games like Oblivion.

saolin323

Now let me make a few thinks clear. I am not saying Fable 2 will be a bad game, I am just saying that some people are setting this game up on a very high pedestal for features that have been available in most WRPGs for a long time now. If it pulls of some of those stuffs well I am sure it will be a great game, however it is not the greatest thing since sliced bread and I doubt it will be the greatest RPG.

[QUOTE="killtactics"]My point is, if your son promises you an A+ on his report card and gives you a A-, that's still really good. Also i dont really see things that are in the game right now being taken out, you have to remember that one of the reason why things were cut for fable 1 was the limitations of the xbox.horrowhip

I am not going to discuss this with you. Peter always overstates thing. ALWAYS. The best thing that MS could do is gag him and sit him in an office to just make the game. Then, people would appreciate what is there more. His games are good, but the feature-list that was posted by the TC... Well, don't get your hopes up.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]My point is, if your son promises you an A+ on his report card and gives you a A-, that's still really good. Also i dont really see things that are in the game right now being taken out, you have to remember that one of the reason why things were cut for fable 1 was the limitations of the xbox.killtactics

I am not going to discuss this with you. Peter always overstates thing. ALWAYS. The best thing that MS could do is gag him and sit him in an office to just make the game. Then, people would appreciate what is there more. His games are good, but the feature-list that was posted by the TC... Well, don't get your hopes up.

.... you still aren't getting it. Peter is the king of overstating his games. It will be good but this thread is excessive. THAT is my point.

[QUOTE="_Margulis_"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="_Margulis_"]It looks ugly, and I'm gonna go ahead and say that 60% of those features won't even be in the final game. (It's from Lionhead studios, after all.sexy_chimp

Just because something happened once doesn't mean it will again.

It's happened with Black and White, Black and White 2, and Fable. Why wouldn't it happen again?

Just because something happened three times doesn't mean it will again.

Oh.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]My point is, if your son promises you an A+ on his report card and gives you a A-, that's still really good. Also i dont really see things that are in the game right now being taken out, you have to remember that one of the reason why things were cut for fable 1 was the limitations of the xbox.horrowhip

I am not going to discuss this with you. Peter always overstates thing. ALWAYS. The best thing that MS could do is gag him and sit him in an office to just make the game. Then, people would appreciate what is there more. His games are good, but the feature-list that was posted by the TC... Well, don't get your hopes up.

.... you still aren't getting it. Peter is the king of overstating his games. It will be good but this thread is excessive. THAT is my point.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it at all. You know what? Similar things were said to be included in the original Fable, yet were cut due to time and developmental restrictions. I think Peter Molyneux has a tendency to speak about what his ideal game world will encompass before reality hits. I remember for the first Fable, one of the promises was that trees would grow throughout the game as the years passed by, which was cut due to time constraints. Not a big deal, but when something so minor is cut, what's to be expected when more in-depth elements are attempted?

I would love nothing more than to see what he is claiming come to fruition just like everyone else, but in the end the amount of restrictions mentioned above make all of those features unlikely, or at best very superficial. That's not to say that some won't be in there, but I'm not holding my breath.

Peter said game will be completely free roamable.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30762.html

at around 5:10

I wonder how many of those features will be cut in the final game:P

Nah I joke I joke, this game looks great.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it at all. You know what? Similar things were said to be included in the original Fable, yet were cut due to time and developmental restrictions. I think Peter Molyneux has a tendency to speak about what his ideal game world will encompass before reality hits. I remember for the first Fable, one of the promises was that trees would grow throughout the game as the years passed by, which was cut due to time constraints. Not a big deal, but when something so minor is cut, what's to be expected when more in-depth elements are attempted?

I would love nothing more than to see what he is claiming come to fruition just like everyone else, but in the end the amount of restrictions mentioned above make all of those features unlikely, or at best very superficial. That's not to say that some won't be in there, but I'm not holding my breath.

Rekunta

EVERYTHING is in, most we have seen too, remember it was xbox and its limiting hardware that made most impossible and development time constraints, they did not have an almost unlimited money backup back then

All in all, you assume too much, if you knew what i know, you would know say anything of the above

[QUOTE="Udsen"]Saolin why do you try so hard to convince people about Fable 2? Are you making money off of it? Fable 2 will flop.jg4xchamp

I'm sure it'll be great..I just think he's hyping it too much.

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it at all. You know what? Similar things were said to be included in the original Fable, yet were cut due to time and developmental restrictions. I think Peter Molyneux has a tendency to speak about what his ideal game world will encompass before reality hits. I remember for the first Fable, one of the promises was that trees would grow throughout the game as the years passed by, which was cut due to time constraints. Not a big deal, but when something so minor is cut, what's to be expected when more in-depth elements are attempted?

I would love nothing more than to see what he is claiming come to fruition just like everyone else, but in the end the amount of restrictions mentioned above make all of those features unlikely, or at best very superficial. That's not to say that some won't be in there, but I'm not holding my breath.

saolin323

EVERYTHING is in, most we have seen too, remember it was xbox and its limiting hardware that made most impossible and development time constraints, they did not have an almost unlimited money backup back then

All in all, you assume too much, if you knew what i know, you would know say anything of the above

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Rekunta"]

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it at all. You know what? Similar things were said to be included in the original Fable, yet were cut due to time and developmental restrictions. I think Peter Molyneux has a tendency to speak about what his ideal game world will encompass before reality hits. I remember for the first Fable, one of the promises was that trees would grow throughout the game as the years passed by, which was cut due to time constraints. Not a big deal, but when something so minor is cut, what's to be expected when more in-depth elements are attempted?

I would love nothing more than to see what he is claiming come to fruition just like everyone else, but in the end the amount of restrictions mentioned above make all of those features unlikely, or at best very superficial. That's not to say that some won't be in there, but I'm not holding my breath.

Rekunta

EVERYTHING is in, most we have seen too, remember it was xbox and its limiting hardware that made most impossible and development time constraints, they did not have an almost unlimited money backup back then

All in all, you assume too much, if you knew what i know, you would know say anything of the above

The link in sig leads to 4-5 AMAZING Fable 2 blogs, read them ,and see that everything this time is 100% in, nothing not confirmed has been mantioned

Check out the new article on IGN, Fable 2 is gonna 10x larger than Fable 1, it's gonna have more than 150 quests, and much more.

The article is called "Fable 2 in a family way", my copy and past function does not work on here for some reason. -.-

To be honest. The Graphics don't look all that good.

Warhawk has done better.

It looks like Kameo but uglydiablo_human

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglysaolin323

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

But the graphics are not as good as crysis. You look like you got paid to start spreading the word about fable 2. Tbh, I'm hyped for this game, but I acknowledge, as a pc gamer, that the graphics are nothing to be excited for.

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglysaolin323

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

Thanks for describing oblivion. Now remove your beer glass and accept the reality, Patty is not good looking and Crysis is good looking

PM got another sequal. When will you gamers learn?

The origional was aweful, I don't see why this one could turn around anything. Same could be said for KZ2 but that game atleast looks awesome graphically. What i see here is Lionhead hopping on the "teh screenshots are bright wiv light" bandwagon. What difference does it make when the game comes out in non-HD resolution and 60fps seems like a gimmick?

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglyastor47

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

But the graphics are not as good as crysis. You look like you got paid to start spreading the word about fable 2. Tbh, I'm hyped for this game, but I acknowledge, as a pc gamer, that the graphics are nothing to be excited for.

You measn IN YOUR OPINION they are not

IMO they are as good or better due to art

So, Fable 2 uses most of Crysi graphical features, yet it does not look as good ? Give us a break with the PC fanboyism

[QUOTE="astor47"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglysaolin323

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

But the graphics are not as good as crysis. You look like you got paid to start spreading the word about fable 2. Tbh, I'm hyped for this game, but I acknowledge, as a pc gamer, that the graphics are nothing to be excited for.

You measn IN YOUR OPINION they are not

IMO they are as good or better due to art

So, Fable 2 uses most of Crysi graphical features, yet it does not look as good ? Give us a break with the PC fanboyism

Dont try to change your agument. You said it looks as good if not better than crysis technologically.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="astor47"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglygatorteen

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

But the graphics are not as good as crysis. You look like you got paid to start spreading the word about fable 2. Tbh, I'm hyped for this game, but I acknowledge, as a pc gamer, that the graphics are nothing to be excited for.

You measn IN YOUR OPINION they are not

IMO they are as good or better due to art

So, Fable 2 uses most of Crysi graphical features, yet it does not look as good ? Give us a break with the PC fanboyism

Dont try to change your agument. You said it looks as good if not better than crysis technologically.

I meant looks on par technologically in SOME features, like lighting, light beams, volumetric effects, detail, open world etc, definatly it is behind in charatcer models, physics, and a bit in textures

But the overall picture, in the most visible effects of those, does indeed look on par to the best Crysis pics IMO

Peter said game will be completely free roamable.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30762.html

at around 5:10

SSCyborg

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Peter said game will be completely free roamable.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30762.html

at around 5:10

ithilgore2006

Everything I've heard from him so far has been shown in the game. (except that, but this was at a demo after all)

edit: talking about this game of course

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

Peter said game will be completely free roamable.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30762.html

at around 5:10

SSCyborg

Everything I've heard from him so far has been shown in the game. (except that, but this was at a demo after all)

edit: talking about this game of course

I know. This time he actually showed that the game was going to contain this and that.

[QUOTE="gatorteen"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="astor47"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]It looks like Kameo but uglysaolin323

HDR, light beams, volumetric lighting, real time day/night cycles with stretching real shadows from everything etc

Fable 2 has 24 hour real time day/night changes, the game is free roaming and totally non linear, and HUGE in levels, the shadows and volumetric light beams are calculated real time as the sun moves too, EXACTLY like Crysis

But the graphics are not as good as crysis. You look like you got paid to start spreading the word about fable 2. Tbh, I'm hyped for this game, but I acknowledge, as a pc gamer, that the graphics are nothing to be excited for.

You measn IN YOUR OPINION they are not

IMO they are as good or better due to art

So, Fable 2 uses most of Crysi graphical features, yet it does not look as good ? Give us a break with the PC fanboyism

Dont try to change your agument. You said it looks as good if not better than crysis technologically.

I meant looks on par technologically in SOME features, like lighting, light beams, volumetric effects, detail, open world etc, definatly it is behind in charatcer models, physics, and a bit in textures

But the overall picture, in the most visible effects of those, does indeed look on par to the best Crysis pics IMO

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

diablo_human

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

12 hours no thx uHardpunkfan

Oblivion can be finished in 10 hours, and i have links of people that did it too, if you like

[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"]12 hours no thx usaolin323

Oblivion can be finished in 10 hours, and i have links of people that did it too, if you like

10 hours,thats abit slow is it not?

Oblivions main quest is almost shorter then the thievs guild

All wrpg have small main quest and Fable will is no different,and that dont bother me,if ur not willing to make the effort to get the most out of a game why get it?

[QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

saolin323

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

ukillwegrill

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

The funny thing is... You seem to be a cow, and therefore you dislike Fable 2. Now, if it was on YOUR console, you would praise it.

You would protect it, just like you do with SO many other PS3 games. Now... just shut up, or think of the positive things about Fable.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

ukillwegrill

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

saolin323

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

Fuzzy-Warrior

Yes, why not, it is, i have never seen such a beautifull forest

[QUOTE="Fuzzy-Warrior"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

saolin323

Yes, why not, it is, i have never seen such a beautifull forest

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

saolin323

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

Just to clarify. Do you mean that Fable 2 looks infinitely better than any game at the moment and any future games? Coz one day there'll be games which will look like Pixar CGI graphics and games which look strikingly close to real life. Do you honestly believe that Fable 2 looks better than Finding Nemo, or Transformers the Movie, or heck, do you honestly believe Fable 2 looks like real life (as in photorealistic graphics). Also if Fable 2 is infinitely (or 1000000x) better looking than kameo, then it should look at least as good as the best CGI animation, or be nearly indistuishable from real life.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

screamingdoom

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

Just to clarify. Do you mean that Fable 2 looks infinitely better than any game at the moment and any future games? Coz one day there'll be games which will look like Pixar CGI graphics and games which look strikingly close to real life. Do you honestly believe that Fable 2 looks better than Finding Nemo, or Transformers the Movie, or heck, do you honestly believe Fable 2 looks like real life (as in photorealistic graphics). Also if Fable 2 is infinitely (or 1000000x) better looking than kameo, then it should look at least as good as the best CGI animation, or be nearly indistuishable from real life.

Looks better than any future game WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES of, not games in 10 years from now

[QUOTE="screamingdoom"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="diablo_human"]

Really don't care how it's made or what is powering it, It's still like Kameo but ugly.

saolin323

It is still the very best looking game coming or out though, BY MILES IMO, so what you do here is say every single game looks worst that Kameo

Opinion,isnt Fact

Fable is by far,not,the best looking game coming out,or already out Kameo is better looking

Ok, if you mean artistically, and about opinion, yes Kameo is better looking by miles from ANY game i have played to date indeed, but Fable 2 is 1000000x times better looking than Kameo to me, thus bringing Fable 2 INFINITE times ahead of any coming game in visuals for my tastes

Just to clarify. Do you mean that Fable 2 looks infinitely better than any game at the moment and any future games? Coz one day there'll be games which will look like Pixar CGI graphics and games which look strikingly close to real life. Do you honestly believe that Fable 2 looks better than Finding Nemo, or Transformers the Movie, or heck, do you honestly believe Fable 2 looks like real life (as in photorealistic graphics). Also if Fable 2 is infinitely (or 1000000x) better looking than kameo, then it should look at least as good as the best CGI animation, or be nearly indistuishable from real life.

Looks better than any future game WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES of, not games in 10 years from now

Ok then, that's why I clarified. You still said though, that Fable 2 looked 1000000x better than Kameo and infinitely better than upcoming games (so for example, MGS4, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone, Far Cry 2, to name a few). If Fable 2 looked 1000000x better than Kameo, it would still at least equal the top CGI graphics, if not be photorealistic, and if it looked infinitely better than Killzone or Far Cry 2 or GT5, it would be photorealistic, and basically indistinguishable from real life. Look I understand you're exaggerating to the nth degree, but you're implying that Fable 2 is light years ahead in terms of graphics compared to other games, and that is simply not true. Even the majority of people on System Wars, who think Crysis is the best in terms of graphics, would agree that it is maybe about 3-4 times as beautiful as the second most beatiful games on the planet which are Gears, uncharted and Mass effect (maybe you'll even be able to add Fable 2 to that list in the future), so your remarks about Fable 2's graphics are preposterous and unintelligent.

In regards to Crysis, industry professionals believe that the engine that Crysis is running on is the most technically advanced engine in the world, and will be for some time. Also the fact that some critics believe that Crysis' visuals will be unmatched till 2009, and an overwhelming majority of the gaming poplution disagree with you and believe Crysis to be the most beautiful game, means that really your grounds for Fable 2's graphics being superior are unfounded. Honestly, Fable 2 does some nice things, even some Crysis similar things, but it doesn't match Crysis technically. Honestly I think you've mistaken artistic design with technical design. Artistic is arguable, technical is not, and in regards to superior technical graphics, in comparison to Crysis, Fable is not superior or even close.

Better looking does not mean realistic, Shrek is the best looking CGI movie and is NOT looking realistic

In short, i have NEVER seen a most beautifull, detailed, as well lit with proper shadows and volumetric light beams, forest ever, not in games out or coming

As for comparing it wiht ....... Kameo, it is simply put ignorance, they are not comparable, just because both have vibrand colors