Fable 2 is really VASTLY IMPRESSIVE both visually and in gameplay !!!

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#401 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

So then I guess Planescape Torment with higher GR score is much better tha Fable 1? Same with the 50 other games that are rated higher than fable ?

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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutAdrianWerner

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Well..using reviews Fable1 barely managed to get into top100 RPGs, how can you hype a sequel to such medicority? :D

The same way you people can hype Witcher that got 43 AAA reviews LESS than Fable 1 !!!! :)

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[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fallout got 10 AAA reviews, Fallout 2 got 6, Planescape got 25 and Baldur's Gate 2 got 25. So Saolin/nasos/greg_splicer, is Fable better than those games?
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#404 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="saolin323"]HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Pathetic DAMAGE CONTROL

Fable 1 got 53 AAA reviews

Witcher got 10 AAA reviews !!!!

hahahaha, what a mediocrity

saolin323

Read the reviews and see what the main complaints were. Bugs! Also, PC has higher standards for RPGs

I will not read the reviews for a garbage game that scored so low everywhere, sorry

All i know is that the whole gaming community says Fable 1 is a vastly superior game to Witcher, that is with proof

using this logic gaming community also says Fable1 wasn't anything special :D 99 better RPGs than Fable1 and you're acting like it was anything special :D What a joke :D

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#405 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Well..using reviews Fable1 barely managed to get into top100 RPGs, how can you hype a sequel to such medicority? :D

The same way you people can hype Witcher that got 43 AA reviews LESS than Fable 1 !!!! :)

Have you even played the game to judge for yourself? Answer this simple question.
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#406 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Well..using reviews Fable1 barely managed to get into top100 RPGs, how can you hype a sequel to such medicority? :D

The same way you people can hype Witcher that got 43 AAA reviews LESS than Fable 1 !!!! :)

Except we never tried to use review averages to mask fanboy complexes :D You're the only one running around screaming ".bu..bu...all those reviews". Well.. reviews state that Fable1 is utter crap compared to Fallout and Torment. So either you believe reviews and agree they're better or you should stop using reviews averages to put down Witcher
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutmo0ksi

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Well..using reviews Fable1 barely managed to get into top100 RPGs, how can you hype a sequel to such medicority? :D

The same way you people can hype Witcher that got 43 AA reviews LESS than Fable 1 !!!! :)

Have you even played the game to judge for yourself? Answer this simple question.

Yes, the combat is pathetic, and the world empty and flat, that starting castle looked more like a bad joke from Daggerfall era than anything else, and the crap foliage looks even worst

I am not far in the game though

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#408 sam280992
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[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fable got 85% on Gameranking and the Witcher got 81% not that much of a difference only 4% and if you call The witcher garbage then whats Fable? better garbage?

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#409 naval
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Well..using reviews Fable1 barely managed to get into top100 RPGs, how can you hype a sequel to such medicority? :D

The same way you people can hype Witcher that got 43 AAA reviews LESS than Fable 1 !!!! :)

other people use their own opinion to judge how good a game is , you are the one who uses reviews to see how good he game is. So do you agree all the rpgs rated higher than fable 2 are better than it ?

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#411 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsam280992

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fable got 85% on Gameranking and the Witcher got 81% not that much of a difference only 4% and if you call The witcher garbage then whats Fable? better garbage?

That is wrong, it is the percentage of AAA reviews that count, because if a game got just ONE AAA review, could not possibly be better than a game that got 53 AAA reviews, but overall scored lower, right ?

So, Witcher got 20% AAA reviews, Fable 1 got 45%, that is a HUGE difference rihgt there, only 20% of the reviewers gave AAA to Witcher, but nearly half (45%) gace Fable 1 AAA

Same goes for the clever poster above, ye Fallout might have 6 AAA reviews, but the totalt reviews were few, maing the percentage of its AAA reviews huge

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#412 naval
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutRobbieH1234

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fallout got 10 AAA reviews, Fallout 2 got 6, Planescape got 25 and Baldur's Gate 2 got 25. So Saolin/nasos/greg_splicer, is Fable better than those games?

he said long time back fable is a much better game than planescape or fallout

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#413 saolin323
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutnaval

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fallout got 10 AAA reviews, Fallout 2 got 6, Planescape got 25 and Baldur's Gate 2 got 25. So Saolin/nasos/greg_splicer, is Fable better than those games?

he said long time back fable is a much better game than planescape or fallout

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

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Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

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So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?
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#415 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutsaolin323

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fallout got 10 AAA reviews, Fallout 2 got 6, Planescape got 25 and Baldur's Gate 2 got 25. So Saolin/nasos/greg_splicer, is Fable better than those games?

he said long time back fable is a much better game than planescape or fallout

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

Really? So I guess this means that Conflict: Denied Ops is a better game than Quake 2?
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="naval"]witcher is much better than fable but then again there is no point of explaining that to someone who thinks fable is better than than planescape torment and falloutnaval

Sorry, 53 AAA reviews for Fable 1 and 10 for Witcher prove you 100% wrong, Witcher does not touch Fable 1

Fallout got 10 AAA reviews, Fallout 2 got 6, Planescape got 25 and Baldur's Gate 2 got 25. So Saolin/nasos/greg_splicer, is Fable better than those games?

he said long time back fable is a much better game than planescape or fallout

I think he just hates RPGs so the worse RPG a game is the more hyped he is about it :D Look at his hyped games, all preety good, but not many of them will be good RPGs, good games? yes. Good RPGs? Not so much

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I think he just hates RPGs so the worse RPG a game is the more hyped he is about it :D Look at his hyped games, all preety good, but not many of them will be good RPGs, good games? yes. Good RPGs? Not so much

AdrianWerner
According to him, Oblivion "set a standard" for RPGs this gen. What that standard is, I do not know.
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#419 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

RobbieH1234

So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?

Let's close this site then, all gaming sites, and stop buying games, those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

hahahahah, please stop, do you honestly play only those games, and have never bought a recent one ?

And if you have, you never had as much fun after those titles were over ?

Do you know how STUPID what you suggest seems ?

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#420 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I think he just hates RPGs so the worse RPG a game is the more hyped he is about it :D Look at his hyped games, all preety good, but not many of them will be good RPGs, good games? yes. Good RPGs? Not so much

RobbieH1234
According to him, Oblivion "set a standard" for RPGs this gen. What that standard is, I do not know.

Oblivion DID set a standard though. It was a lower standard.
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#421 naval
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I think he just hates RPGs so the worse RPG a game is the more hyped he is about it :D Look at his hyped games, all preety good, but not many of them will be good RPGs, good games? yes. Good RPGs? Not so much

RobbieH1234

According to him, Oblivion "set a standard" for RPGs this gen. What that standard is, I do not know.

lol oblivion, he does seems to like rpgs which are not really rpgs

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#422 RobbieH1234
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

saolin323

So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?

Let's close this site then, all gaming sites, and stop buying games, those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

hahahahah, please stop, do you honestly play only those games, and have never bought a recent one ?

And if you have, you never had as much fun after those titles were over ?

Do you know how STUPID what you suggest seems ?

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

Anywho, the only thing and I mean the only thing that current gen games have over the games I listed are the visuals. That is it. I played Fallout for the first time in November 2006, Deus Ex in June 2007 and StarCraft (properly) in August 2007. Fallout blew Oblivion away, Deus Ex was vastly superior to BioShock and StarCraft is still the best RTS ever made. Better graphics does not make Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout, nor does better graphics make BioShock better than Deus Ex.

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#423 AdrianWerner
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those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

saolin323
the sad thingis that many 10-15 years old RPGs have RPG mechanics that seem next-gen compared to likes of Oblivion and Fable
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#424 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

RobbieH1234

So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?

Let's close this site then, all gaming sites, and stop buying games, those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

hahahahah, please stop, do you honestly play only those games, and have never bought a recent one ?

And if you have, you never had as much fun after those titles were over ?

Do you know how STUPID what you suggest seems ?

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

Anywho, the only thing and I mean the only thing that current gen games have over the games I listed are the visuals. That is it. I played Fallout for the first time in November 2006, Deus Ex in June 2007 and StarCraft (properly) in August 2007. Fallout blew Oblivion away, Deus Ex was vastly superior to BioShock and StarCraft is still the best RTS ever made. Better graphics does not make Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout, nor does better graphics make BioShock better than Deus Ex.

No, Fable 2 has FAR more than visuals, sorry but you keep going about Fallout etc, games that are not even 3D, how is a world supposed to get you immersed in it, when it is 2D ?

The days of 2D games is long past, i am 1000x more immersed in games like Oblivon and Fable than those old titles, and immersion in a world is a major part of RPG gaming

Tell me now, does Fallout have

- huge towns, with hundreds of interacting NPC's, that go about business and can be influnced by the hero ?

- small villages that will turn to huge towns as years pass by ? And you can INFLUENCE their growth and look on top !!!!

- the option to have a family and home, kids, and feel like part of the world ?

- huge forests full of secrets, with the sun beams and shadows playing as the sun moves ?

- a AI follower, that actually thinks, helps you, is 100% aware of any dynamic thing going on around you !! liek the dog in Fable 2, that will react differently on each situation ?

- maybe you can buy whole towns and become mayor, or whole regions and become king in Fallout, with EVERYONE interacting differently to you depending on your status ?

- how is the old gen 2D combat in Fallout compared to full spectacular 100% real time combat in Fable 2 exactly ? With a system that changes combat moves and enemie thinking depending on the surroundings too ??

- Maybe maybe Fallout has jobs you can get, can you run shops and bring back loot to sell rom creatures you have killed ?

How ON EARTH is Fable 2 just about the graphics ? It totally anihhilates Fallout in gameplay, Fallout seems like having no gameplay at all comparing TBH

BTW that is a SMALL FRACTION of gameplay features in Fable 2, i did not even touch the seasons changing, the co-op, the dynamic day/night changes, that affect NPC's too etc etc etc

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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

saolin323

So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?

Let's close this site then, all gaming sites, and stop buying games, those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

hahahahah, please stop, do you honestly play only those games, and have never bought a recent one ?

And if you have, you never had as much fun after those titles were over ?

Do you know how STUPID what you suggest seems ?

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

Anywho, the only thing and I mean the only thing that current gen games have over the games I listed are the visuals. That is it. I played Fallout for the first time in November 2006, Deus Ex in June 2007 and StarCraft (properly) in August 2007. Fallout blew Oblivion away, Deus Ex was vastly superior to BioShock and StarCraft is still the best RTS ever made. Better graphics does not make Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout, nor does better graphics make BioShock better than Deus Ex.

No, Fable 2 has FAR more than visuals, sorry but you keep going about Fallout etc, games that are not even 3D, how is a world supposed to get you immersed in it, when it is 2D ?

The days of 2D games is long past, i am 1000x more immersed in games like Oblivon and Fable than those old titles, and immersion in a world is a major part of RPG gaming

Tell me now, does Fallout have

- huge towns, with hundreds of interacting NPC's, that go about business and can be influnced by the hero ?

- small villages that will turn to huge towns as years pass by ? And you can INFLUENCE their growth and look on top !!!!

- the option to have a family and home, kids, and feel like part of the world ?

- huge forests full of secrets, with the sun beams and shadows playing as the sun moves ?

- a AI follower, that actually thinks, helps you, is 100% aware of any dynamic thing going on around you !! liek the dog in Fable 2, that will react differently on each situation ?

- maybe you can buy whole towns and become mayor, or whole regions and become king in Fallout, with EVERYONE interacting differently to you depending on your status ?

- how is the old gen 2D combat in Fallout compared to full spectacular 100% real time combat in Fable 2 exactly ? With a system that changes combat moves and enemie thinking depending on the surroundings too ??

- Maybe maybe Fallout has jobs you can get, can you run shops and bring back loot to sell rom creatures you have killed ?

How ON EARTH is Fable 2 just about the graphics ? It totally anihhilates Fallout in gameplay, Fallout seems like having no gameplay at all comparing TBH

BTW that is a SMALL FRACTION of gameplay features in Fable 2, i did not even touch the seasons changing, the co-op, the dynamic day/night changes, that affect NPC's too etc etc etc

Please you would you just stop already! Seriously, all you do is go on and on about Fable 2. I mean yeah it looks look a GOOD game, but you repeated threads are just ruining this game. Im starting that the creator of this game is holding you at gunpoint and you are promoting this game to save your life. It explains why you just CANT shut the hell up.

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I am just trying to figure out how is Fallout 100x better than Fable 2 in gameplay, will you kindly let the man answer to the above ? This post was not meant for you, and your reply is meaningless
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This is going to be a pretty cool game. I'm hoping that your pets can change in appearance and ability as your character does.
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Yes Fable 2 could be a great game, yes its gameplay features may add new aspects to gaming. They all look very nice on paper, but until you actually sit down and try them in-game, you cannot know how good or bad they will be.
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#429 screamingdoom
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Of course, any next gen game is better, unless you like to go back to pac man

saolin323

So going by that logic that would make Oblivion better than Fallout, BioShock better than System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Command and Conquer 3 better than StarCraft, correct?

Let's close this site then, all gaming sites, and stop buying games, those games of 10 years old can not possibly be surpassed by anything, right ?

hahahahah, please stop, do you honestly play only those games, and have never bought a recent one ?

And if you have, you never had as much fun after those titles were over ?

Do you know how STUPID what you suggest seems ?

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

Anywho, the only thing and I mean the only thing that current gen games have over the games I listed are the visuals. That is it. I played Fallout for the first time in November 2006, Deus Ex in June 2007 and StarCraft (properly) in August 2007. Fallout blew Oblivion away, Deus Ex was vastly superior to BioShock and StarCraft is still the best RTS ever made. Better graphics does not make Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout, nor does better graphics make BioShock better than Deus Ex.

No, Fable 2 has FAR more than visuals, sorry but you keep going about Fallout etc, games that are not even 3D, how is a world supposed to get you immersed in it, when it is 2D ?

The days of 2D games is long past, i am 1000x more immersed in games like Oblivon and Fable than those old titles, and immersion in a world is a major part of RPG gaming

Tell me now, does Fallout have

- huge towns, with hundreds of interacting NPC's, that go about business and can be influnced by the hero ?

- small villages that will turn to huge towns as years pass by ? And you can INFLUENCE their growth and look on top !!!!

- the option to have a family and home, kids, and feel like part of the world ?

- huge forests full of secrets, with the sun beams and shadows playing as the sun moves ?

- a AI follower, that actually thinks, helps you, is 100% aware of any dynamic thing going on around you !! liek the dog in Fable 2, that will react differently on each situation ?

- maybe you can buy whole towns and become mayor, or whole regions and become king in Fallout, with EVERYONE interacting differently to you depending on your status ?

- how is the old gen 2D combat in Fallout compared to full spectacular 100% real time combat in Fable 2 exactly ? With a system that changes combat moves and enemie thinking depending on the surroundings too ??

- Maybe maybe Fallout has jobs you can get, can you run shops and bring back loot to sell rom creatures you have killed ?

How ON EARTH is Fable 2 just about the graphics ? It totally anihhilates Fallout in gameplay, Fallout seems like having no gameplay at all comparing TBH

BTW that is a SMALL FRACTION of gameplay features in Fable 2, i did not even touch the seasons changing, the co-op, the dynamic day/night changes, that affect NPC's too etc etc etc

How does it totally annihilate it in gameplay, when you've never PLAYED THE GAME! Plus some of the gameplay features you list aren't very exciting. Throwing bottles and playing fetch with a dog. Yippee-kay-yah!:roll: Go outside and smash a bottle, it's way better than doing it in games! Or go walk a real dog. Having a family in Fable might be ok fun for a while, but honestly the sims ain't that great. Man oh man, the game will be awesome fun I'm sure (its my most anticipated 360 game), but it does not look to have many gameplay revolutions which haven't been done before in one way or another.

Honestly much of what you listed are entertaining gimmicks, which will be fun for a while and then will be forgotten. If the game truely nails the evolving, changing world and character aspects, then yes it might have something to boast about, but really I doubt it will nail it perfectly or even near perfectly. This game will be excellent hopefully and will be really fun and enjoyable, but I doubt it brings a completely renewed, innovative and progressive face to the rpg scene. It will rehash, with lots of polish, game features that have been done before and will probably add a few smaller innovations.

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#430 RobbieH1234
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No, Fable 2 has FAR more than visuals, sorry but you keep going about Fallout etc, games that are not even 3D, how is a world supposed to get you immersed in it, when it is 2D ?

The days of 2D games is long past, i am 1000x more immersed in games like Oblivon and Fable than those old titles, and immersion in a world is a major part of RPG gaming

Tell me now, does Fallout have

- huge towns, with hundreds of interacting NPC's, that go about business and can be influnced by the hero ?

- small villages that will turn to huge towns as years pass by ? And you can INFLUENCE their growth and look on top !!!!

- the option to have a family and home, kids, and feel like part of the world ?

- huge forests full of secrets, with the sun beams and shadows playing as the sun moves ?

- a AI follower, that actually thinks, helps you, is 100% aware of any dynamic thing going on around you !! liek the dog in Fable 2, that will react differently on each situation ?

- maybe you can buy whole towns and become mayor, or whole regions and become king in Fallout, with EVERYONE interacting differently to you depending on your status ?

- how is the old gen 2D combat in Fallout compared to full spectacular 100% real time combat in Fable 2 exactly ? With a system that changes combat moves and enemie thinking depending on the surroundings too ??

- Maybe maybe Fallout has jobs you can get, can you run shops and bring back loot to sell rom creatures you have killed ?

How ON EARTH is Fable 2 just about the graphics ? It totally anihhilates Fallout in gameplay, Fallout seems like having no gameplay at all comparing TBH

BTW that is a SMALL FRACTION of gameplay features in Fable 2, i did not even touch the seasons changing, the co-op, the dynamic day/night changes, that affect NPC's too etc etc etc

saolin323

A couple of things.

  • I never said Fallout is better than Fable 2, and quite frankly I would not and could not make that claim given the fact that I've never played it. Unlike you, I actually play games before I critique them.
  • You cannot say that Fable 2 has better gameplay than Fallout because you've never played Fable 2 and I sincerely doubt you've played Fallout.
  • In the unlikely event that Fable 2 is superior to Fallout then I shall admit ownage and send my greatest congratulations to Peter Molyneux.
Now, the thing that gets me about your "Oblivion immerses me 100x more than Fallout" (I cannot speak for Fable as I didn't bother to play it) is that Oblivion is not a better role playing game than Fallout. That is a fact that cannot be disputed. If you would like me to speak at length as to why that is, I'd be more than happy to. I would like to know, in your most esteemed opinion, as to what makes Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout.
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#431 saolin323
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Now we have turned to "Yes Fable 2 has some thing never done before, but how will they play" or "they are not that interesting" etc

Since this gets us nowhere, let's wait for the game to come out then, and we resume after that

Trying to become Emperor of Albion by buying everything in the world, could take years anyway, so it won't be until a year after Fable 2 reelase, that i can tell you how fun and addictive its gameplay was

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#432 RobbieH1234
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Now we have turned to "Yes Fable 2 has some thing never done before, but how will they play" or "they are not that interesting" etc

Since this gets us nowhere, let's wait for the game to come out then, and we resume after that

Trying to become Emperor of Albion by buying everything in the world, could take years anyway, so it won't be until a year after Fable 2 reelase, that i can tell you how fun and addictive its gameplay was

saolin323
So can we finally let this thread die?
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#434 saolin323
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Now, the thing that gets me about your "Oblivion immerses me 100x more than Fallout" (I cannot speak for Fable as I didn't bother to play it) is that Oblivion is not a better role playing game than Fallout. That is a fact that cannot be disputed. If you would like me to speak at length as to why that is, I'd be more than happy to. I would like to know, in your most esteemed opinion, as to what makes Oblivion a better RPG than Fallout. RobbieH1234

I ONLY said i am more immersed in Oblivion world, than i was with any 2D game, i never said that this garbage in gameplay was a good RPG, or even a mediocre RPG, it is one of the most boring i have played with

That is EXACTLY why i think Fable 2 is the ultimate game, because it is NOTHING like Oblivion, it is more lively in NPCs, better AI, has no generic areas, but each area is unique in feel and art, has unique quests with many ways to do them, and that never get boring or tedious and same, unique adventure elements rarely found in RPG's today (like the demon door riddles), and the evolving cities and main story according to your own actions is something i wanted in RPG's for decades, nothing comes close

Add the co-op that i love, jobs, seasons, an ever changing dynamic world, and there you go

So, i NEVER compared Fable 2 to Olbiivon, Oblivion is mediocrity in every way as a RPG

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#435 sam280992
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Thats why Oblivion is AAA and the first Fable was AA and don't try to say I'm being unfair cause they came out at different times cause you you compared the first Fable to the Witcher you were calling the Witcher garbage cause of a 4% difference
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#436 saolin323
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Thats why Oblivion is AAA and the first Fable was AA and don't try to say I'm being unfair cause they came out at different times cause you you compared the first Fable to the Witcher you were calling the Witcher garbage cause of a 4% differencesam280992

Is it just me, or Oblivion came AFTER Fable 1 ? But Fable 1 came FAR before Witcher ?

Of course Oblivion is a next gen huge world, that is why it got AAA, it was OBVIOUS would outscore Fable 1, but Fable 1 was NOT obvious to outscore Witcher so much

So, in general, Oblivion > Fable 1 > Witcher and of course Fable 2 is generations ahead of Oblivion in every aspect of gameplay and graphics

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#437 beerm_basic
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sounds good but the first wasnt all that great so im reserving judgement for the time being
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#438 death919
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It's gunna be great! Can't wait! :)
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#439 Vandalvideo
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I am just trying to figure out how is Fallout 100x better than Fable 2 in gameplay, will you kindly let the man answer to the above ? This post was not meant for you, and your reply is meaninglesssaolin323
Fallout is a classic. Its a game that was extremely innovative and was able to capture the hearts and wallets of thousands of players. Fable 1 was not. Fable 1 was a flop for all intents and purposes which failed to deliver on thousands of promises made by the developers; free roaming world, sandgoose, singing sword, aging trees, preggorz, etc. The list goes on and on for undelivered promises. There are good games, there are great games, there are amazing games, and there are Fallout games. Fallout games live on as one of the bastions of the genre, being played to this very day and still being enjoyed. Fable? Not so much. Fable may be a great game, but its NOT going to be remembered for decades to come like Fallout was and is.
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[QUOTE="sam280992"]Thats why Oblivion is AAA and the first Fable was AA and don't try to say I'm being unfair cause they came out at different times cause you you compared the first Fable to the Witcher you were calling the Witcher garbage cause of a 4% differencesaolin323

Is it just me, or Oblivion came AFTER Fable 1 ? But Fable 1 came FAR before Witcher ?

Of course Oblivion is a next gen huge world, that is why it got AAA, it was OBVIOUS would outscore Fable 1, but Fable 1 was NOT obvious to outscore Witcher so much

So, in general, Oblivion > Fable 1 > Witcher and of course Fable 2 is generations ahead of Oblivion in every aspect of gameplay and graphics

Wasn't Fable 1 supposed to be the greatest RPG in the history of mankind and set the standards for future to come? But then it ended up being a shallow hack and slash RPG that was only 7-8 hours. And it only got a 81% on Gamerankings. And it also got gamespots dubious honor of biggest dissapointment of 2004.
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[QUOTE="Tiefster"]I can't believe this crap is still going on. I'll settle it like this The Witcher >>> Fable 2. Why you ask? Because it does what Fable is supposed to do better. Geralt just doesn't become uglier or more god like based on good or bad deeds, the world is actually shaped by his decisions.

Might be a SPOILER so if you think it'll ruin your experience then don't read it.

For example: early in the game you are faced with a choice while questing to earn the trust of the local villagers. You can either help out a band of insurgents by letting them take supplies from the supply crates of one merchant or you can choose not to (I don't know what happens because I let them take the supplies). A full two or three hours later a character I had to get information from was killed by the weapons in those supplies crates.

End Possible spoiler

So you see, if Molyneux could do that then he'd have a little more respect from me. Instead it seems like he's trying to cover up the fact that he has a weak black and white system when it comes to good and evil.
saolin323

Witcher is a last gen ordinary RPG, but ok, are cities changing in Witcher depending on your actions ? Or can buy castles and towns whole ? I did not know man, i think you are posting BS right now

Your exmaple is stupid, in Fable 2 whole towns change depending on how you play the game, not just one small thing in a quest, you simply have no idea what you are talking about, that is all

So, do you have villages that will grow into towns later in the game ? Or can you kill a village whole, and see it never become that huge town later ?

Actually the Witcher has more complex moral choices than you'll ever see in your wanabee-RPG fable. You haven't played the game.

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#442 Killer_Wuggles
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Who the hell revived this topic?
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#443 leejohnson7
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Who the hell revived this topic?Killer_Wuggles

I know what you mean. I don't know why topics like this and the Halo 3 never being dethrowned one get so much attention when there are intelligent arguements, you just have to look for them.

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#444 gatorteen
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Now we have turned to "Yes Fable 2 has some thing never done before, but how will they play" or "they are not that interesting" etc

Since this gets us nowhere, let's wait for the game to come out then, and we resume after that

Trying to become Emperor of Albion by buying everything in the world, could take years anyway, so it won't be until a year after Fable 2 reelase, that i can tell you how fun and addictive its gameplay was

saolin323

With this post right here, all these topics should die.

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#445 stephant_6
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Now we have turned to "Yes Fable 2 has some thing never done before, but how will they play" or "they are not that interesting" etc

Since this gets us nowhere, let's wait for the game to come out then, and we resume after that

Trying to become Emperor of Albion by buying everything in the world, could take years anyway, so it won't be until a year after Fable 2 reelase, that i can tell you how fun and addictive its gameplay was

saolin323

A year? No,12 hours. Play the main quest for 10-12 hours,get a ton of gold,walk up to the emporer and say "I'm buying you."

Voila,you're the emporer! Seriously I wouldn't be shocked at all if this is how it happens in the game,that seems to be the level most RPG's have sunk to these days.

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#446 AvIdGaMeR444
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People said that the gameplay in Fable looked fabulous before it released. What gamers get instead...a clunky combat system with some awkward controls.

I'm seeing the same pattern with Fable 2 as Fable 1. People are beginning to hype this game like crazy thinking that Molyneax will deliver on his promises. How do we know that Molyneax isn't just promising all these features, then realizing..."uh...oh, I can't fit it all in the game"...just like what happened to the 1st Fable?

People seem to be expecting way to much from this game. I hope what I see in the game is actually delivered without being scrapped at the last minute. I'm not holding my breath though.

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#447 leejohnson7
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I don't think the OP knows what a generation is. 10 years ago, 2d to 3d was acceptable as a generation leap. Now for fable 2 to have not as good graphics as Crysis, and moderately better than Oblivion is several generations ahead of it's time according to him.

I think Mass Effect is one of the best games I have ever played, but the older games still have superior RPG ellements, and that seems a suitable analogy if you ask me.

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#448 StrayMBlasTER
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hey saolin

i got some foreshadowing for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQLR7dE5k4

moral of the story: check yourself before you wreck yourself!

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#449 stephant_6
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hey saolin

i got some foreshadowing for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQLR7dE5k4

moral of the story: check yourself before you wreck yourself!

StrayMBlasTER

Oh thanks for reminding me I forgot to watch him on wednesday!

And on a side note...ROFL.

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#450 Killer_Wuggles
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hey saolin

i got some foreshadowing for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQLR7dE5k4

moral of the story: check yourself before you wreck yourself!

StrayMBlasTER

Ha, I love that review, he's totally right. The game is too broken and makes you feel like you're a God than provide any actual realism. It looks like Fable 2 is heading the same way.