Fable 2 is the best RPG ever.

let me name some rpgs better than fable 2:

phantasy star 3,4

shining force 1,2,3

breath of fire 1,2,3,4

final fantasy 5,6,7,8,9,10

chrono triger

super mario rpg

suikoden 1,2,3,5

vandal hearts 1,2

xenosaga

xenogears

kingdom hearts 1,2

legend of dragoon

disgaea 1,2,3

phantom brave

makai kingdom

star ocean 1,2,3

lost odessey

valkyria chronicles

there got to be another 200 better rpgs but i dont have the time to write them down....also if you want wrpgs oblivion and fallout 3 are way better

Fable 2 is an enormous load of poorly designed garbage.

Its world is tiny, maddeningly restrictive, and boring, its story is flat-out idiotic bull ****, to a degree rarely seen even in this industry, its core mechanics are horrible, its character building sucks ass, and allows you to be a jack of all trades (which doesn't really matter I suppose, when your entire goddamn skillset only relates to combat), the game doesn't really have multiple ways to play through it, aside from a few branching quests and the ending, which takes the whole ME philosophy of "implied decisions are bad" to another level altogether, "teh hughe decisions!!1!" are few, far between, and poorly implemented, the quest design is godawful, and, to top it all off, it's loaded with technical problems, from pop-up and bad animations, to glitches out the ass.

Fable 2 fails miserably, not only as an RPG, but as a game, in general, and you calling it "the best RPG ever" would be ****ing hilarious if it were not so sadly indicative of the state of the genre.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Fable 2 is an enormous load of poorly designed garbage.

Its world is tiny, maddeningly restrictive, and boring, its story is flat-out idiotic bull ****, to a degree rarely seen even in this industry, its core mechanics are horrible, its character building sucks ass, and allows you to be a jack of all trades (which doesn't really matter I suppose, when your entire goddamn skillset only relates to combat), the game doesn't really have multiple ways to play through it, aside from a few branching quests and the ending, which takes the whole ME philosophy of "implied decisions are bad" to another level altogether, "teh hughe decisions!!1!" are few, far between, and poorly implemented, the quest design is godawful, and, to top it all off, it's loaded with technical problems, from pop-up and bad animations, to glitches out the ass.

Fable 2 fails miserably, not only as an RPG, but as a game, in general, and you calling it "the best RPG ever" would be ****ing hilarious if it were not so sadly indicative of the state of the genre.

Lto_thaG

Leave it to jethro to tell the honest to God truth, I agree with you whole heartedly, the game is pretty bad.

let me name some rpgs better than fable 2:

phantasy star 3,4

shining force 1,2,3

breath of fire 1,2,3,4

final fantasy 5,6,7,8,9,10

chrono triger

super mario rpg

suikoden 1,2,3,5

vandal hearts 1,2

xenosaga

xenogears

kingdom hearts 1,2

legend of dragoon

disgaea 1,2,3

phantom brave

makai kingdom

star ocean 1,2,3

lost odessey

valkyria chronicles

there got to be another 200 better rpgs but i dont have the time to write them down....also if you want wrpgs oblivion and fallout 3 are way better

skanjos

Fable 2 is the best RPG ever.Olimar_the_Min

That's a funny way to spell Planescape: Torment...

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

let me name some rpgs better than fable 2:

phantasy star 3,4

shining force 1,2,3

breath of fire 1,2,3,4

final fantasy 5,6,7,8,9,10

chrono triger

super mario rpg

suikoden 1,2,3,5

vandal hearts 1,2

xenosaga

xenogears

kingdom hearts 1,2

legend of dragoon

disgaea 1,2,3

phantom brave

makai kingdom

star ocean 1,2,3

lost odessey

valkyria chronicles

there got to be another 200 better rpgs but i dont have the time to write them down....also if you want wrpgs oblivion and fallout 3 are way better

st1ka

comparing JRPGS to WRPGS? why don't we just start comparing racing games and shooters while we are at it?st1ka

Is there really that much of a difference other than one is from Japan and the other is from America? I know old Japs tend to be more turn-based and western more action orientated but if they are so different judging at your comparison of shooters to racing games then why are both genres ending with RPG?

And the major groundbreaking difference would be?AirGuitarist87

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Is there really that much of a difference other than one is from Japan and the other is from America? I know old Japs tend to be more turn-based and western more action orientated but if they are so different judging at your comparison of shooters to racing games then why are both genres ending with RPG?

Dark_Highlander

The game's open-endness far surpasses other RPG games like GTA4 or MGS4.Olimar_the_Min

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Olimar_the_Min"]Can you name a better RPG?Olimar_the_Min

KOTOR

KOTOR II

Morrowind

Can you name a better RPG?Olimar_the_Min

[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]The game isn't that good. Yes the graphics are good, but really there's just not a lot of content after the story. There's nothing drawing me back into the game. Unlike Oblivion, there are no guilds to enter or anything like that. Also, the combat and spells were really shallow. There was barely any categories to level up in, far to few. R3FURBISHED

Once was enough for me. Button mashers get very boring and repetitive after awhile and magic was entirely too overpowered.

The best rpg ever made is pokemon red

The best rpg ever made is pokemon red

omarsh94

Blue was better than red.

Maybe if it was the only RPG ever made.dual_boot

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="jrabbit99"]The game isn't that good. Yes the graphics are good, but really there's just not a lot of content after the story. There's nothing drawing me back into the game. Unlike Oblivion, there are no guilds to enter or anything like that. Also, the combat and spells were really shallow. There was barely any categories to level up in, far to few. Xalaten

Once was enough for me. Button mashers get very boring and repetitive after awhile and magic was entirely too overpowered.

The best rpg ever made is pokemon red

omarsh94

No, Fable II is a fun RPG.

I'm sorry, any game that allows me to spam poses for ten minutes so that I get married within twenty and then have a baby within twenty-five minutes is not the best RPG ever.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] And the major groundbreaking difference would be?st1ka

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] And the major groundbreaking difference would be?AirGuitarist87

while it is true that gameplay wise games like final fantasy and Fallout 1 & 2 are very similar their strenghts and weakness are very different. An RPG is not just about talking to people and leveling, if that were the case then GTA: San Andreas is an RPG

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="st1ka"] linear gameplay Vs. non-linear in truth though, most of fable's non-linear gameplay is pretty meh, but then again so was Oblivion's. JRPGS if anything are closer to the action adventure genre then actual RPGs

st1ka

They're different approaches to the same genre. They both have an RPG core, but have different elements of gameplay incorporated into them. That doesn't create this enormous ground-breaking difference, though. Half-Life 2 is incredibly linear, but that doesn't make it any less of an FPS than say Battlefield.

while it is true that gameplay wise games like final fantasy and Fallout 1 & 2 are very similar their strenghts and weakness are very different. An RPG is not just about talking to people and leveling, if that were the case then GTA: San Andreas is an RPG

st1ka

No, but it does have RPG elements to it. The same way that having linear or non-linear gameplay doesn't make a game an entirely different genre.

Fable 2 sure was fun, but I'll stick to Fallout 3, thanks.

Anyway, I suggest you explore some of the RPGs previous generations offered...

[QUOTE="omarsh94"]

The best rpg ever made is pokemon red

swazidoughman

Blue was better than red.

pshh are you kidding? scyther was soooo much better than pinsir....

Fable 2 has got to be the best RPG ever. I just got it and it really deserves an 9.5 rating at least. The graphics are seamless and seem very realistic while the story is near perfect. The game's open-endness far surpasses other RPG games like GTA4 or MGS4. I do not understand how GTA4 can get such a high score while a great game Fable 2 can't? Is it bias? Fable is the obvious better game.

What are your views? (no trolls)

Olimar_the_Min

100% agree, it is my GOTY easilly too

FABLE 2 GOTY 2008 X-play

http://www.n4g.com/News-243992.aspx
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/691623/XPlay_Best_of_2008_Winners_List.html#readmore

GOTY Kotaku
http://kotaku.com/5120598/kotakus-game-of-the-year-nominations

Joystick Fable 2 GOTY 2008
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/01/01/joystiqs-top-10-of-2008-fable-2/

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] That's hardly the super-ultra difference you were declaring before. AirGuitarist87

They're different approaches to the same genre. They both have an RPG core, but have different elements of gameplay incorporated into them. That doesn't create this enormous ground-breaking difference, though. Half-Life 2 is incredibly linear, but that doesn't make it any less of an FPS than say Battlefield.

the RPG genre was created by using board games such as D&D as a basis, these board games had the strongpoint of actually roleplaying you characterm meaning you create you have multiple choices and paths on which to choose from which eventually define your character's way of acting and thinkings (hench the good and evil bars in KOTOR, or the lawfull, neutral, chaotic, good, true neutral and evil bars in D&D) at best you could say that the JRPGS are adventure games with RPG elements, but no more then that

Can you name a better RPG?Olimar_the_Min

Final Fantasy 6

Final Fantasy 7

Final Fantasy 9

Xenogears

Chrono Trigger

Chrono Cross

Morrowind

Oblivion

Fallout 3

Legend Of Gaia

Legend Of Zelda(the whole series)

Phantasy Star 1-4

Deus Ex

i could go on and on.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]while it is true that gameplay wise games like final fantasy and Fallout 1 & 2 are very similar their strenghts and weakness are very different. An RPG is not just about talking to people and leveling, if that were the case then GTA: San Andreas is an RPG

AirGuitarist87

No, but it does have RPG elements to it. The same way that having linear or non-linear gameplay doesn't make a game an entirely different genre.

actually yes it does, it's missing one of the most (if not the most) important part in an RPG, it's like saying you have a racing game in which you can tune your car, buy parts, get endorsments, and sponsorhips, but you have no actual driving

i mean by using your logic what seperates GTA: SA from say.... Final Fantasy 7?

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="Olimar_the_Min"]Can you name a better RPG?Olimar_the_Min

KOTOR

KOTOR II

Morrowind

you lost all credibility with that post. how is kotor not an rpg? and morrowind terrible???? im srry you didnt enjoy one of the greatest games ever made but then again morrowind isn't very noob friendly xD.

the RPG genre was created by using board games such as D&D as a basis, these board games had the strongpoint of actually roleplaying you characterm meaning you create you have multiple choices and paths on which to choose from which eventually define your character's way of acting and thinkings (hench the good and evil bars in KOTOR, or the lawfull, neutral, chaotic, good, true neutral and evil bars in D&D) at best you could say that the JRPGS are adventure games with RPG elements, but no more then thatst1ka

actually yes it does, it's missing one of the most (if not the most) important part in an RPG, it's like saying you have a racing game in which you can tune your car, buy parts, get endorsments, and sponsorhips, but you have no actual drivingst1ka

Okay, so if we're going by origins, FPSs started out with no story and not being able to look up or down. That doesn't make new games not FPSs.AirGuitarist87

And having a multiple choice path isn't necessary to make an RPG. If that was the case then RPGs didn't really exist until the mid to late 90s. Having a good/bad character is just another gameplay mechanic, not a genre-altering factor.AirGuitarist87

Ultima was launched for the Apple II in 1980, it allowed you to do stuff like killing an entire city of you wanted to (and you had to bear it's consequences)

I'd say it's more along the lines of a racing game that allows you to fine tweak your car as opposed to one that just races (ie. Mario Kart v Gran Turismo).AirGuitarist87

that's.... actually not a bad analogy

Can anyone tell me how fable 2 was good in your eyes?

Too short, Too easy, Worst ending ever, You buy and find weapons that don't matter (except the Red Dragon lol), Overall I knew it was going to be super short when I found the first 2 heros so fast.

Can anyone tell me how fable 2 was good in your eyes?

Too short, Too easy, Worst ending ever, You buy and find weapons that don't matter (except the Red Dragon lol), Overall I knew it was going to be super short when I found the first 2 heros so fast.

mr_ic3cr3am

Old or new they both FPS because they in first person and umm... shooters :| not having the option to look up or down doesn't change that, neither does story.st1ka

Ultima was launched for the Apple II in 1980, it allowed you to do stuff like killing an entire city of you wanted to (and you had to bear it's consequences)st1ka

Fable 2 has got to be the best RPG ever. I just got it and it really deserves an 9.5 rating at least. The graphics are seamless and seem very realistic while the story is near perfect. The game's open-endness far surpasses other RPG games like GTA4 or MGS4. I do not understand how GTA4 can get such a high score while a great game Fable 2 can't? Is it bias? Fable is the obvious better game.

What are your views? (no trolls)

Olimar_the_Min

wtf...

Anyway, you should play more RPGS because it's clear you haven't. I can respect your opinion if you simply don't like JRPGs but even so, better games would be: Baldurs Gate, Summoner, X-Men Legends, KOTOR, Oblivion, Morrowind, Diablo, The Witcher, and Titan Quest (Fallout 3 and STALKER aren't on this list cause I consider them shooters w/ RPG elements). However, if you do like JRPGS, the list of better games would simply be too large to post.

Fable 2 is okay but comes no where near Diablo 2 or Baldur's Gate 2. Also the multiplayer in Fable 2 isn't that great and it is quite linear in terms of traveling about. Loading screens are long and the animations are very choppy.

[QUOTE="Xalaten"]

It's barely an rpg but if you must label it as one it's not even the best rpg on the 360. That would go to Mass Effect.

Fable 2 is just an incredibly simple, incredibly easy yet pretty action adventure game with some minor rpg elements. Calling it the best rpg ever is a slap in the face to true rpgs like Baldur's Gate and the Fallout series.

Olimar_the_Min

I doubt that you played MGS4 or GTA4 since you called them RPGs. :|