Fable 2 - no online co-op at launch ?

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#51 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Dr_Snood"]

I never did trust Peter, and didn't he say the game was finished back in July?

BioShockOwnz

It's going to be in the game though :|

Jesus you act like he completely back stabbed you or something.

It's not the same. This generation we are seeing games shipped unfinished, and people are accepting that.

Well, the core game is completely finished. It's just co-op mode is shipped a week later. Oh well, guys. Some people are making a mountain out of an ant hill.

It's just the idea that we are seeing this trend of unfinished games. I was looking forward to starting Fable 2 with a friend, and now it's just going to sit there until I the patch is up. I could go ahead with out him, but we already set up the mandate (Fable Bromance, if you will). Going ahead and leveling up without him is cheating (on him).

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#52 Veterngamer
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Wow this thread is ripe with fanboys.....

Who the hell cares if the games online co-op comes a week late? I sure don't. This is hardly a big deal. People here are acting like 50% of the features are being cut from the final product.

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#53 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]What's going on with this new trend of not finishing games? DeadSpaceXIII
Laziness

And people still buy their games at launch. Not much we can do about it since it's still going to sell, and future games will do the same until people quit buying incomplete games.
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#54 xxxWigginsxxx
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I wonder if its due to the Fall overhaul that xbox live is gonna go under... If so, thats MS fault! I say this becasue peter said a few months ago that Fable 2 was complete as far as game content and features and all they needed to do is clean out the bugs
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#55 SmartGuy2211
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they say theyll patch it in within the first week, no big deal. in a game like this you really should play single player first
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#56 Espada12
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Dr_Snood"]

I never did trust Peter, and didn't he say the game was finished back in July?

BioShockOwnz

It's going to be in the game though :|

Jesus you act like he completely back stabbed you or something.

It's not the same. This generation we are seeing games shipped unfinished, and people are accepting that.

Well, the core game is completely finished. It's just co-op mode is shipped a week later. Oh well, guys. Some people are making a mountain out of an ant hill.

You start accepting it now and it might escalate to the point devs are going to say... hey 3/4 of the campaign is finished you are going to get the rest later :lol:

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#57 DanteSuikoden
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Say it isn't so:cry:
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#58 Chutebox
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lol, wern't the Lems criticising LBP for not having online create mode at launch a couple of days ago?ONLYDOD

Which is why this is so funny.

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#59 Espada12
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they say theyll patch it in within the first week, no big deal. in a game like this you really should play single player firstSmartGuy2211

Depends on the day it comes.. I mean if you play 3 hours a day you can probably beat the main story pretty quick. 3 hours a day isn't even much.

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#60 tupapi006
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Not a big deal for me i get it the next week
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#61 MortalDecay
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Looks like Lionhead actually have a lot in common with Sony. Always making, and breaking promises.

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#62 Blackbond
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First LBP and now Fable 2. Can devs ship complete games or is the new standard now?
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#63 lantus
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[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]lol, wern't the Lems criticising LBP for not having online create mode at launch a couple of days ago?Nike_Air

I guess for those lemmings , it should definitely affect the score significantly. For everyone else , I guess it is not that big of a deal.

It doesn't matter for either game, because if you play online wit heither game it's going to tell you to update, and if you don't then the online features have no use to you, still disappointing for both games IMO.

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#64 MortalDecay
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First LBP and now Fable 2. Can devs ship complete games or is the new standard now?Blackbond

Now that console games can be updated with a patch, most devs (not all) have become more lazy, I guess.

I don't mind waiting for new features. I just get really upset when I buy a game, and it's completely broken and have to wait for a patch to come out. There is no excuse for that.

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#65 kenshinhimura10
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and people were laughing at LBP for not having the cooperative creation tool from the get go.
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#66 Toriko42
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Peter won't mess it up, I wasn't gonna play Co-op right away anyway, I'd rather devlop my character and let get into co-op near the end to show the beast off.
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#67 Dante2710
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awesome, flop confirmed
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#68 AntiType
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This is really unacceptable. What annoyed me about this gen was patches to fix issues. THESE ARE CONSOLES NOT PCs. but even PC games actually shipped with all heir feature on the disc. What the hell is wrong with delaying a game (supposedly only a few weeks?) to get it done right?

You don't get this kinda @#^% with Nintendo games.

And yes, this should effect the game's score, Fable 2's, LBP's and in the future, Mario if it ever happens.

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This is really unacceptable. What annoyed me about this gen was patches to fix issues.T THESE ARE CONSOLES NOT PCs. but even PC games actually shipped with all heir feature on the disc. What the hell is wrong with delaying a game (supposedly only a few weeks?) to get it done right?

You don't get this kinda @#^% with Nintendo games.

And yes, this should effect the game's score, Fable 2's, LBP's and in the future, Mario if it ever happens.

AntiType

That first sentance is a good thing!

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#70 AvIdGaMeR444
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lol at anyone thinking Molyneax would deliver as promised. It is always the pattern with Molyneax these days. Even with supposed "proof" that everything would be in the game as promised at launch, this happens. This is why I can never trust him. Oh yeah....and Fable 2 is supposedly 10 times larger than Fable. I'm sure that will be true...:roll:

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#71 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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This is getting sort of ridiculous...i can handle DLC, but what the hell happened to the days when a developer actualy took some pride in there work and made sure a game was finished before relecing it?
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#72 Snowboarder99
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That's weird...I remember Peter saying the game was finished besides some polishing. They should just delay it but I guess it doesn't matter too much since I'll probably only play alone in this game.
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#73 dracula_16
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It's like ordering a hamburger and recieving no bun with it. Especially when you consider that co-op was one of the features that the devs never stopped talking about.
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#74 Veterngamer
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This is really unacceptable. What annoyed me about this gen was patches to fix issues. THESE ARE CONSOLES NOT PCs. but even PC games actually shipped with all heir feature on the disc. What the hell is wrong with delaying a game (supposedly only a few weeks?) to get it done right?

You don't get this kinda @#^% with Nintendo games.

And yes, this should effect the game's score, Fable 2's, LBP's and in the future, Mario if it ever happens.

AntiType

Times change.... learn that or get left behind. Your preconceived notions about what Consoles are or are not, don't mean anything to the rest of the world.

Consoles weren't always able to produce 3D visuals either... did you get your panties in a bunch when the jump to 3D happened?

The ability to download patches or updates to games, only means that you can have a more complete experience.... and in cases like this, still have the game earlier rather than later.

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#75 WillieBeamish
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The reason they are doing this is the following:

This forces people who have cheated in the Fable II pub games to get online and download the Fable II 'co-op' patch which prevents people who haven't patched their pub games (by logging onto XBLA while playing it) from transferring all that cheated gold into the retail game.

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#76 Chutebox
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It's like ordering a hamburger and recieving no bun with it. Especially when you consider that co-op was one of the features that the devs never stopped talking about.dracula_16

What if they ordered it protein style?

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#77 edo-tensei
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they lost my purshase for sure. I'm not about to buy incomplete games so it won't become a trend, lbp anyone?
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]It's like ordering a hamburger and recieving no bun with it. Especially when you consider that co-op was one of the features that the devs never stopped talking about.Chutebox

What if they ordered it protein style?

Then it would like getting your hamburger patty cut in half and paying full price for it.

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#79 Veterngamer
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It's just the idea that we are seeing this trend of unfinished games. I was looking forward to starting Fable 2 with a friend, and now it's just going to sit there until I the patch is up. I could go ahead with out him, but we already set up the mandate (Fable Bromance, if you will). Going ahead and leveling up without him is cheating (on him).

SolidTy

Whats the difference.... if they didn't ship the game until the feature was there, then you'd still have to wait the same amount of time b4 being able to play the game?

Is this the first time you've heard of a titles release date being pushed back? Only now... instead of waiting a week or 2 for the game... you're waiting a week or 2 for a feature. I'd say your panties are in a bunch only because others are going to be playing the game while you are waiting for Online Co-op so you can play with your buddy.

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#80 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]It's like ordering a hamburger and recieving no bun with it. Especially when you consider that co-op was one of the features that the devs never stopped talking about.dracula_16

What if they ordered it protein style?

Then it would like getting your hamburger patty cut in half and paying full price for it.

Ugh, that's just outrageous!

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#81 Veterngamer
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The reason they are doing this is the following:

This forces people who have cheated in the Fable II pub games to get online and download the Fable II 'co-op' patch which prevents people who haven't patched their pub games (by logging onto XBLA while playing it) from transferring all that cheated gold into the retail game.

WillieBeamish

wrong.... the pub games come with the game and therefore would have already been fixed.

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#82 mingo123
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omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

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#83 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It's just the idea that we are seeing this trend of unfinished games. I was looking forward to starting Fable 2 with a friend, and now it's just going to sit there until I the patch is up. I could go ahead with out him, but we already set up the mandate (Fable Bromance, if you will). Going ahead and leveling up without him is cheating (on him).

Veterngamer

Whats the difference.... if they didn't ship the game until the feature was there, then you'd still have to wait the same amount of time b4 being able to play the game?

Is this the first time you've heard of a titles release date being pushed back? Only now... instead of waiting a week or 2 for the game... you're waiting a week or 2 for a feature. I'd say your panties are in a bunch only because others are going to be playing the game while you are waiting for Online Co-op so you can play with your buddy.

No, it's because this TREND doesn't stop here. It keeps going, and it's getting worse. What are we to expect 3 years from now. They don't want to miss the holiday season, and aren't ready.

Forget Fable, I don't think this, "We'll fix it later attitude" is good for gamers.

And yeah, I don't like feeling like I'm left behind while others are leveling up.

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omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

mingo123

Dude they're implementing it within a week of launch. It hardly makes it a half-finished game. :?

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#85 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

Ninja-Hippo

Dude they're implementing it within a week of launch. It hardly makes it a half-finished game. :?

but still it shouldnt be like this

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#86 wiwahib
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Personally, I'm cancelling my order until the patch is in place.
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#88 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

Veterngamer

Dude they're implementing it within a week of launch. It hardly makes it a half-finished game. :?

but still it shouldnt be like this

Stop crying.... Holy **** people around here are a bunch of babies.... GROW UP.... or just don't buy the game.

weren't you one of the people bashing LBP when the same happened to it?

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#89 DeadSpaceXIII
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

edo-tensei

Dude they're implementing it within a week of launch. It hardly makes it a half-finished game. :?

but still it shouldnt be like this

Stop crying.... Holy **** people around here are a bunch of babies.... GROW UP.... or just don't buy the game.

weren't you one of the people bashing LBP when the same happened to it?

Yes he was, I remember his sig and avy. Oh the irony!
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#90 jg4xchamp
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Im ticked....

THe DLC better be free. So help me i have to pay for this...


another thing the only reason this should have been done is because they wanted to polish up the game

SO i BETTER get

-stable framerates
-Very few glitches
-very few texture pop ins or bugs
- a stable and polished game overall.


I am tired of unfinished products or poorly executed products(ie Stalker Clear Sky, TOo Human, Mass Effect, etc)

I miss the good old days, when games were expected to be polished....
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#91 xsubtownerx
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Plan on playing this mostly as a single player game, so no biggie for me.BioShockOwnz

On top of that, you can still chat and trade with your friends (orbs). Seriously, people are and will make a bigger deal out of this than they should.

PS: Cows better hush about this seeing as how LBP is missing an online feature at launch as well.. :P

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#92 Veterngamer
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

omg wtf is with developers these days, why do they always release half baked games? BFBC with no Conquest, LBP with no coop map editor, fable 2 with no online coop, DLC doesnt mean you make a half baked game and then release contents later even though those contents were suppose to be with on disc

DeadSpaceXIII

Dude they're implementing it within a week of launch. It hardly makes it a half-finished game. :?

but still it shouldnt be like this

Stop crying.... Holy **** people around here are a bunch of babies.... GROW UP.... or just don't buy the game.

weren't you one of the people bashing LBP when the same happened to it?

Yes he was, I remember his sig and avy. Oh the irony!

LOL.... Impressive you are able to remember things that NEVER happened, in fact I didn't even know about LBP not shipping with the level editor until i stumbled into this thread.

You should get a job with the American Government. You can be in charge of finding WMD's in countries that your president wants to attac.... err.... I mean, "liberate".

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#93 DeadSpaceXIII
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I'd believe you except for your a huge 360 fanboy. It took you awhile to reply and you coulda easily deleted the post but tbh I don't care that much.
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#94 Dante2710
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LOL.... Impressive you are able to remember things that NEVER happened, in fact I didn't even know about LBP not shipping with the level editor until i stumbled into this thread.

You should get a job with the American Government. You can be in charge of finding WMD's in countries that your president wants to attac.... err.... I mean, "liberate".

Veterngamer
:| you turned yourargumentinto an insult? good job, i surely hope not all canadians are like you
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#95 ArisShadows
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peter...*sighs* i pray you dont mess this one up.lawlessx

That is one pretty sweet Code Geass Animation in your siggy, there!

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I plan to do local co-op anyway's so I am not worried about a week of not being able to play online.
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#97 Veterngamer
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

LOL.... Impressive you are able to remember things that NEVER happened, in fact I didn't even know about LBP not shipping with the level editor until i stumbled into this thread.

You should get a job with the American Government. You can be in charge of finding WMD's in countries that your president wants to attac.... err.... I mean, "liberate".

Dante2710

:| you turned yourargumentinto an insult? good job, i surely hope not all canadians are like you

I didn't insult anyone.... maybe you should look the word up in the dictionary. I simply drew a comparison between the poster and a certain historical event. Unless you consider being called an American to be an insult, I can certainly understand why you'd think that.

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#98 Krigon
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That sucks. Specially after showcasing it so much, but atleast they are patching it as soon as possible.

Nothing to go berserk about.

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#99 MojondeVACA
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What smart move eh! is like lauching Gears2 without multiplayer.. 8.9 is coming!
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#100 Krigon
Member since 2005 • 5591 Posts

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Plan on playing this mostly as a single player game, so no biggie for me.xsubtownerx

On top of that, you can still chat and trade with your friends (orbs). Seriously, people are and will make a bigger deal out of this than they should.

PS: Cows better hush about this seeing as how LBP is missing an online feature at launch as well.. :P

LBP wasn't showcasing Online co-op creation at any point (well i haven't seen any videos where they do). The thing was that people assumed it would come with online co-op creation. What they did show was offline co-op creation.

LBP will get patched with various features along the road (according to MM). So you can say that the game was planned to be released unfinished all along. Hohoho.

Meanwhile Fable 2 was showcasing online co-op, like the big thing for the game.

That's the difference.

Anyways both games are getting patched. So like i stated earlier, no need to worries.