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#51 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I hated Oblivion, but I love Fallout 3.organic_machine

You?! Love an RPG?! You blaspheme!!! :o

lol I know man... I'm hooked... I've even put down Killzone 2 to finish Fallout 3! :o
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[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Fallout 3 beats any game in any category Trigger_Hppy

What about Kart-Racing?

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#53 foxhound_fox
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Ironically I am just about to reinstall Oblivion and mod it out the ass. Its been at least two years since I last played it and I have been reading about the tons of changes and additions done by OOO and the other parts of the community. I have no desire to play Fallout 3 at all. Despite me loving post-apoc games I just cannot inspire myself to spend $50 on another Bethesda game. That and Oblivion is a good original fantasy world... Fallout 3 is just a ripoff of Black Isle's work.
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#54 studster007
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If oblivion had FO3's levelling system and no level cap, Oblivion would win hands down IMO
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#55 steve8198
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Oblivion was epic morrowind to but fallout 3 is the sucked yup.

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Ironically I am just about to reinstall Oblivion and mod it out the ass. Its been at least two years since I last played it and I have been reading about the tons of changes and additions done by OOO and the other parts of the community. I have no desire to play Fallout 3 at all. Despite me loving post-apoc games I just cannot inspire myself to spend $50 on another Bethesda game. That and Oblivion is a good original fantasy world... Fallout 3 is just a ripoff of Black Isle's work.foxhound_fox
Everytime I try to use Better Cities, my game crashes upon leaving the Imperial City :( What did I do wrong?
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#57 Juggernaut140
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Oblivion was epic morrowind to but fallout 3 is the sucked yup.

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I feel that Oblivion is one of the greatest games in existence and revolutionised modern gaming with what can be done with role playing and and dlc. I was my first next gen game.

With that said.....Fallout 3 surpassed it in every way. Sure it's an ugly game but thats due to the endearment being a bleak desolate waste land....nuclear waste land that is. In general it rendered well. It has everything that oblivion had but classes and really Fallout 3 dosn't need them.

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#59 dreman999
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I hated Oblivion, but I love Fallout 3.carljohnson3456

You?! Love an RPG?! You blaspheme!!! :o

lol I know man... I'm hooked... I've even put down Killzone 2 to finish Fallout 3! :o

I put down Fallout 3 to play SF4 but that only because I was to depressed. ..... Fallout is a dark, dark game.
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I feel that Oblivion is one of the greatest games in existence and revolutionised modern gaming with what can be done with role playing and and dlc. I was my first next gen game.

With that said.....Fallout 3 surpassed it in every way. Sure it's an ugly game but thats due to the endearment being a bleak desolate waste land....nuclear waste land that is. In general it rendered well. It has everything that oblivion had but classes and really Fallout 3 dosn't need them.

dreman999
Was it also your first RPG? :|
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#61 JigglyWiggly_
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I liked oblivion better :)
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#62 Great_Ragnarok
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out of personal preference I favour oblivion. not because Fallout 3 has any faults etc. but I prefer the medieval fantasy type setting over nuclear waste land.
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]

I feel that Oblivion is one of the greatest games in existence and revolutionised modern gaming with what can be done with role playing and and dlc. I was my first next gen game.

With that said.....Fallout 3 surpassed it in every way. Sure it's an ugly game but thats due to the endearment being a bleak desolate waste land....nuclear waste land that is. In general it rendered well. It has everything that oblivion had but classes and really Fallout 3 dosn't need them.

Juggernaut140
Was it also your first RPG? :|

First wrpg. Mostly jrpg..... I'm beginning to feel a FF6>>>>FF7 vibe from you. But still I've never seen some of the mission like in Oblivion in other games before. And they we quite complicated. But the level system is trash though.
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#64 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="dreman999"]

I feel that Oblivion is one of the greatest games in existence and revolutionised modern gaming with what can be done with role playing and and dlc. I was my first next gen game.

With that said.....Fallout 3 surpassed it in every way. Sure it's an ugly game but thats due to the endearment being a bleak desolate waste land....nuclear waste land that is. In general it rendered well. It has everything that oblivion had but classes and really Fallout 3 dosn't need them.

dreman999
Was it also your first RPG? :|

First wrpg. Mostly jrpg..... I'm beginning to feel a FF6>>>>FF7 vibe from you. But still I've never seen some of the mission like in Oblivion in other games before. And they we quite complicated. But the level system is trash though.

Well then let me tell you that Oblivion didn't revolutionize anything. It's pretty much standard fare for a WRPG
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#65 DonPerian
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I enjoyed Oblivion more than Fallout 3 but I can recognize Fallout 3 as the superior of the two.
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#66 Cherokee_Jack
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First wrpg.dreman999

So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

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#67 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Was it also your first RPG? :|

First wrpg. Mostly jrpg..... I'm beginning to feel a FF6>>>>FF7 vibe from you. But still I've never seen some of the mission like in Oblivion in other games before. And they we quite complicated. But the level system is trash though.

Well then let me tell you that Oblivion didn't revolutionize anything. It's pretty much standard fare for a WRPG

The amount of lore in the game was never pushed as much as this game and it was out of story. Not something to push alone the story, or add mystery to the world, characters, or events but just pure lore just to build the world. The religions in this game were deep and a concept like it is still not found in other games as well. The character interaction was complex. Also, it was the first game with massive dlc . No other game has yet applied the same quality of dlc like oblivion out side of Grand theft Auto 4. Sorry, but it did revolutionize rpgs in a way. Still just a bunch of fetch quest though.
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#68 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"] First wrpg.Cherokee_Jack

So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

OOOH , another case of ff6-itis.
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#69 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"] First wrpg.dreman999

So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

OOOH , another case of ff6-itis.

OOOH , maybe you should play one other game in the series before deciding everyone else is delusional.
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="dreman999"] First wrpg. Mostly jrpg..... I'm beginning to feel a FF6>>>>FF7 vibe from you. But still I've never seen some of the mission like in Oblivion in other games before. And they we quite complicated. But the level system is trash though.

Well then let me tell you that Oblivion didn't revolutionize anything. It's pretty much standard fare for a WRPG

The amount of lore in the game was never pushed as much as this game and it was out of story. Not something to push alone the story, or add mystery to the world, characters, or events but just pure lore just to build the world. The religions in this game were deep and a concept like it is still not found in other games as well. The character interaction was complex. Also, it was the first game with massive dlc . No other game has yet applied the same quality of dlc like oblivion out side of Grand theft Auto 4. Sorry, but it did revolutionize rpgs in a way. Still just a bunch of fetch quest though.

Character interaction? What interaction? Because if you mean the persuasion system then :lol: There must be 4 times as much lore in Morrowind as there is in Oblivion (which there isn't that much of btw). That "Massive" DLC was just an expansion pack that was also available for retail, I don't see how that's an innovation anyways. And lol at the religions being deep, there's literally no difference between any of the chapels of the nine. At least there was more than one religion in Morrowind that actually conflicted with eachother.
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#71 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

Cherokee_Jack

OOOH , another case of ff6-itis.

OOOH , maybe you should play one other game in the series before deciding everyone else is delusional.

No, I mean the fact that theirs always someone the hate/ dislikes/states it's inferior/ or otherwise a wildly popular game due to the fact the the previous game the developers made is better, even if the popular one is a good game. It not say that you or anyone hates oblivion, just that that I seen it too many time.

Every time someone say they like Oblivion someone comes in and says the Morrowind is better and to go play it.

Every time someone say they like FF7 someone comes in and says the FF6 better and to go play it.. (Normally me)

Every time someone say they like Mass Effect someone comes in and says the KOTOR is better and to go play it.

I'm saying everyone is delusional, just that it funny that it keeps happening.

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#72 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="dreman999"] OOOH , another case of ff6-itis.dreman999
OOOH , maybe you should play one other game in the series before deciding everyone else is delusional.

No, I mean the fact that theirs always someone the hate/ dislikes/states it's inferior/ or otherwise a wildly popular game due to the fact the the previous game the developers made is better, even if the popular one is a good game. It not say that you or anyone hates oblivion, just that that I seen it too many time.

Every time someone say they like Oblivion someone comes in and says the Morrowind is better and to go play it.

Every time someone say they like FF7 someone comes in and says the FF6 better and to go play it.. (Normally me)

Every time someone say they like Mass Effect someone comes in and says the KOTOR is better and to go play it.

I'm saying everyone is delusional, just that it funny that it keeps happening.

All right, I understand. I was just saying that you should try it before saying that Oblivion revolutionized anything.

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#73 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Well then let me tell you that Oblivion didn't revolutionize anything. It's pretty much standard fare for a WRPG

The amount of lore in the game was never pushed as much as this game and it was out of story. Not something to push alone the story, or add mystery to the world, characters, or events but just pure lore just to build the world. The religions in this game were deep and a concept like it is still not found in other games as well. The character interaction was complex. Also, it was the first game with massive dlc . No other game has yet applied the same quality of dlc like oblivion out side of Grand theft Auto 4. Sorry, but it did revolutionize rpgs in a way. Still just a bunch of fetch quest though.

Character interaction? What interaction? Because if you mean the persuasion system then :lol: There must be 4 times as much lore in Morrowind as there is in Oblivion (which there isn't that much of btw). That "Massive" DLC was just an expansion pack that was also available for retail, I don't see how that's an innovation anyways. And lol at the religions being deep, there's literally no difference between any of the chapels of the nine. At least there was more than one religion in Morrowind that actually conflicted with eachother.

No, not that junk system. I mean stealing and the consequences. AI reactions due to hazards in environment.( I one time saw a chick run off from a bear in the wild, and many time people hunting. Also, everyone has job they and things to do in game so their not stand in one spot all the time. Reaction during quest, and how far in the quest effects the world. Shivering island in general as well. The AI is not the best(THEIR STILL DUMB AS BRICKS) but it good not the less. Every npc is important in a way. And that was 3 massive dlc. Yes it was an expiation but it did start the massive dlc craze we have now. Oblivion was the first for counsels. And I take it that you never read any of the books in Oblivion or gone to any of the daedric cults due to you comment on Knights of the Nine.....You missed out.
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] OOOH , maybe you should play one other game in the series before deciding everyone else is delusional. Cherokee_Jack
No, I mean the fact that theirs always someone the hate/ dislikes/states it's inferior/ or otherwise a wildly popular game due to the fact the the previous game the developers made is better, even if the popular one is a good game. It not say that you or anyone hates oblivion, just that that I seen it too many time.

Every time someone say they like Oblivion someone comes in and says the Morrowind is better and to go play it.

Every time someone say they like FF7 someone comes in and says the FF6 better and to go play it.. (Normally me)

Every time someone say they like Mass Effect someone comes in and says the KOTOR is better and to go play it.

I'm saying everyone is delusional, just that it funny that it keeps happening.

All right, I understand. I was just saying that you should try it before saying that Oblivion revolutionized anything.

After Fallout 3. Its environments just weirds me out.
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#76 kozzy1234
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Oblivion = Dissapointing and by far the worst in the elderscrolls series.

Fallout3 = Better then expected, while not as good as fallout1 and 2, Bethesda did the Fallout name good imo. They definatly didnt ruin the series as i thought they might. Good to see them step up after the dumb downed, overrated and dissapointing Mess that was Oblivion. Fallout3 still could have been better, but on the other hand it could have been ALOT worse.

Oblivion = 6.5 /10

Fallout3 = 8.5/10

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Morrowind>Fallout 3>Oblivion
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The amount of lore in the game was never pushed as much as this game and it was out of story. Not something to push alone the story, or add mystery to the world, characters, or events but just pure lore just to build the world. The religions in this game were deep and a concept like it is still not found in other games as well. The character interaction was complex. Also, it was the first game with massive dlc . No other game has yet applied the same quality of dlc like oblivion out side of Grand theft Auto 4. Sorry, but it did revolutionize rpgs in a way. Still just a bunch of fetch quest though.dreman999

The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall had a lot, lot more the Oblivion, and TES III: Morrowind too. TES IV: Oblivion was the worst, most dumbed down, stripped of content and most superficial of all the Elders Scrolls games.

Go play Morrowing, Daggerfall, Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 and 2, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines, Deus Ex, then come back and comment on Oblivion.

After that, you won't be prasing amount of lore, of sidequest or the amount of characterisation, but the lack of all that.

Again, mark my words, TES IV: Oblivion was the worst, most dumbed down, stripped of content and most superficial of all the Elders Scrolls games.

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#80 foxhound_fox
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So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

Cherokee_Jack

Correction, Daggerfall.
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Oblivions biggest issue for me was the whole thing of monsters leveling up with you. I'd prefer it if you started out and had to pick you missions/fights carefully - coming back to harder ones when you got stronger.

My first character started to get weaker as I leveled up!!! I simply wasn't getting enough HP bonus on level up. After about 10 hours I had to read a FAQ on the levelling and character creation and start the game from fresh again.

Its a shame, because the rest of the game is awesome.

Because of the above issue, I think i am going to have to go with fallout 3.

Overall, both games are very good.

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#82 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]So you haven't played Morrowind?

Play Morrowind.

foxhound_fox


Correction, Daggerfall.

Correction, Morrowind. Daggerfall has not aged gracefully.

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Anyone else getting a feeling of de ja vu with this topic?
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#84 wituckius
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Oblivion's story was generic (as are most video game stories), but Fallout 3's main story was just pathetic. It wasn't generic -- it was worse than generic. Fallout 3's ending ruined fallout 3 for me. Once I completed the game, the whole game became evidently shallow. It did not have nearly as much content as Oblivion. I hope bethesda can actually release some quality DLC for fallout 3 that can come close to comparing with shivering isles. Actually, Fallout 3 has about as much content as shivering isles. Needless to say, I think Oblivion is the superior game. You could erase the main campaign from oblivion and it would still be a good game with more quality content than fallout 3. That said, I do think fallout 3 outshines Oblivion in terms of weapons (how could someone beat a mini nuke launcher aka fat man?).
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I enjoy Fallout 3 more.
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Fallout3 was oblivion with guns.Same graphics engine with minor improvements,A horrible story and besides art style sucked to me

On the other hadn we already had played fallout in oblivion with mods.

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Vanilla Oblivion is rather bland. But when you consider how many mods there are, it easily becomes a very entertaining game.Deadly_Fatalis
Which mods did you have in mind? The only mods I use are to improve the graphics and to change the user interface. None of those effects change the gameplay, they only give extra eye candy and re-adjust the UI.
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[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"]Vanilla Oblivion is rather bland. But when you consider how many mods there are, it easily becomes a very entertaining game.PandaBear86
Which mods did you have in mind? The only mods I use are to improve the graphics and to change the user interface. None of those effects change the gameplay, they only give extra eye candy and re-adjust the UI.

OOO, maybe?
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#89 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Oblivion = Great game

Fallout 3 = Boring rehash

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#90 Hellboard
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everything fallout 3 expect factions... oblivion has more quests than fallout 3 :shock: but again yeah oblivion has more areas but fallout 3 has bigger map.
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#91 Hellboard
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Oblivion = Great game

Fallout 3 = Boring rehash

Gh0st_Of_0nyx
:shock: what you mean?
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#92 Darth_Stalin
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Morrowind>Oblivion>Fallout 3 IMO.

Oblivion on the PC was to die for, with all the mods, and life of luxury (numerous castle mods, weapons, armor, as much money as you can imagine, castle, ridiculous amounts of spells).

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I loved Oblivion. I traded Fallout 3 in without leaving the town with the bomb in the center. Just didn't do anything for me.
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#94 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Oblivion = Great game

Fallout 3 = Boring rehash

Hellboard
:shock: what you mean?

Fallout felt like a mod of Oblivion painted in green dirty paint. I got soooooo bored with it.
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#95 thespywholied
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Oblivion = Great game

Fallout 3 = Boring rehash

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

:shock: what you mean?

Fallout felt like a mod of Oblivion painted in green dirty paint. I got soooooo bored with it.

i like fallout 3. but compared to obilvion. its trash.

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#96 Hellboard
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of[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Hellboard"] :shock: what you mean?thespywholied
Fallout felt like a mod of Oblivion painted in green dirty paint. I got soooooo bored with it.

i like fallout 3. but compared to obilvion. its trash.

How is it trash?

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#97 SeanDiff
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Fallot 3 bored me so much I couldn't finish it, but I played Oblivion for 400+ hours.
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#98 carljohnson3456
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You?! Love an RPG?! You blaspheme!!! :o

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lol I know man... I'm hooked... I've even put down Killzone 2 to finish Fallout 3! :o

I put down Fallout 3 to play SF4 but that only because I was to depressed. ..... Fallout is a dark, dark game.

I love it so much though. lol.
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#99 BenBenBen93
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my heart is still with oblivion. i like the back round and setting more. there is also an epic feeling of the game cos it makes you imagine all those battle you hear of. Fallout 3 is probebly the better game its just that oblivion dungeon raiding hold the place in my heart expecially when it broke

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#100 BenBenBen93
Member since 2007 • 828 Posts
Oblivion definately. It is truly living a life in another world. The world has it's own religion, laws, different people with careers, people who decide to rob others (which Fallout 3 had as well), factions, and rulers. I just became so immersed in Oblivion. Then I played Fallout 3 and just couldn't get that same vibe. Oblivion just made more of an impact on me.Oblivionfan10
ya me agree with this. then people say well i never got imerssed.... Guild not at war.........random raking floor.........guard just standing guarding doors and automatically know where you are ...... i don't care about that you need a bit of imagination. ie i became champion of the arena. no one started crowding around me but i always looked for adoring fan to cheer for me and to KILLLLLLLL. You need imagination in RPGs