Fallout 4 Character Building System actually looks epic,

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#1 -God-
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It looks leagues ahead of the casual Skyrim, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 systems.

(Also best on PC, so this is SW material now (and it's also the truth))

http://bethesda.net/?utm_source=Twitter.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=092415-Zur&hootPostID=ed42c6b0210067c7e5652eabe8a7f275#en/events/game/fallout-4s-character-system/2015/09/24/31

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#2 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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I dont follow casual trash like bethesda games. What is so cool about it?

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#3 MonsieurX
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Yawn.

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#4  Edited By IgGy621985
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Quick, everyone throw your gaming PCs in the trash. PC gaming is officially dead.

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#5 -God-
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@deeph said:

I dont follow casual trash like bethesda games. What is so cool about it?

The character building system is more complicated than anything in Witcher3, Bloodborne, and even Pillars of Eternity.....

It has infinite combinations and builds.

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#6 -God-
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@MonsieurX said:

Yawn.

What don't you like about Fo4?

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#7 MonsieurX
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@-God- said:
@MonsieurX said:

Yawn.

What don't you like about Fo4?

It's made by Bethesda

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#8  Edited By deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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@-God-: Really? It seems to me like your typical stepwise unlock of abilities. "gain 1 point" LOL

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#9  Edited By -God-
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@deeph said:

@-God-: Really? It seems to me like your typical stepwise unlock of abilities. "gain 1 point" LOL

That "Gain 1 point" was 1 out of 7 SPECIAL, after that you put a perk in corresponding to it.

1. Each one of those points are tied to 10 perks with multiple ranks...resulting in 270 different perks all which do very unique things for making very specific builds.

2. There are no steps and it isn't a tree. You can pick the 10th Charimsa perk at level 1 as long as you built your character with 10 Charisma. Completely different than Skyrim or FO3, which were very watered down in this regard.

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#10 Ant_17
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Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

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#11 GarGx1
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Looks like it's hip to hate on Bethesda and Fallout.

Personally I think it'll be a good fun game with loads of content (once it's working properly) especially with years of mod support.

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#12  Edited By -God-
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@Ant_17 said:

Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

Yet it'll outsell any BGS game before it on PC.

It has almost as much specialization as Morrowind.

It's ahead of the last 3 BGS games. If anyone hates on Fo4 its more so them trying to be trendy/hip, rather than objectively stating why.

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#13  Edited By Ant_17
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@-God- said:
@Ant_17 said:

Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

Yet it'll outsell any BGS game before it on PC.

It has almost as much specialization as Morrowind.

It's ahead of the last 3 BGS games. If anyone hates on Fo4 its more so them trying to be trendy/hip, rather than objectively stating why.

Eh , i don't see the big deal , but the game does look better then past games in the series.

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#14  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@IgGy621985 said:

Quick, everyone throw your gaming PCs in the trash. PC gaming is officially dead.

Love how the "best on PC" and this comment have literally nothing to do with the subject.

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#15 Postosuchus
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Frankly I'm amazed they didn't cut the special system like they cut attributes in skyrim. Maybe there's some hope elder scrolls 6 won't be further dumbed down to nothing but a health bar after all.

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#16  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Ant_17 said:

Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

I'm not. I'm fucking hype for Fallout 4 and my PC as well. Not saying it's GOTY but that title still goes to Witcher 3. As for Character Building System, I already know what my character build will be.

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#17 Zethrickk382
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So ready for this game... Just wish it had a co-op option.

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#18 Ant_17
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@davillain- said:
@Ant_17 said:

Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

I'm not. I'm fucking hype for Fallout 4 and my PC as well. Not saying it's GOTY but that title still goes to Witcher 3. As for Character Building System, I already know what my character build will be.

I think we all know , Villian.

A chick with boob slider to the max , and all the femme fatal perks , right?

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#19 Heil68
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Best on Console.

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#20 silversix_
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"best on pc" yeah, one you don't own.

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#21 -God-
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@Heil68 said:

Best on Console.

But how? Most big texture mods will not work on consoles, and it will have lower settings/fps.

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#22 -God-
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@IgGy621985 said:

Quick, everyone throw your gaming PCs in the trash. PC gaming is officially dead.

Love how the "best on PC" and this comment have literally nothing to do with the subject.

That was so it doesn't get moved to General Section.

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#23 ReadingRainbow4
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Can't wait for the horsecock mods.

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#24  Edited By -God-
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Can't wait for the horsecock mods.

I'm sure little garbage mods will work on consoles. Don't expect the good ones.

Starting off at 30 fps (with probable dips) isn't going to be pretty.

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#25 ReadingRainbow4
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@-God- said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Can't wait for the horsecock mods.

I'm sure little garbage mods will work on consoles. Don't expect the good ones.

Starting off at 30 fps (with probable dips) isn't going to be pretty.

The lack of horsecocks swaying to and fro at 60fps is indeed regrettable.

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#26 foxhound_fox
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Will be a lot better in two years when the mod community fixes the issues and bugs.

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#27 speedfreak48t5p
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Looking forward to playing it. It will be a lot of fun to explore. Don't care about the RPG crap. Just give a fun game to play with a lot of quality content.

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#28 Blabadon
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Looking forward to playing it. It will be a lot of fun to explore. Don't care about the RPG crap. Just give a fun game to play with a lot of quality content.

Really? What system?

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@Blabadon said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Looking forward to playing it. It will be a lot of fun to explore. Don't care about the RPG crap. Just give a fun game to play with a lot of quality content.

Really? What system?

Hopefully not PS4thplace

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#30 Ballroompirate
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Must get Nov 10th off....and the following week

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#31 sukraj
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@davillain- said:
@Ant_17 said:

Wow , i'm starting to see why herms are giving up on this game.

I'm not. I'm fucking hype for Fallout 4 and my PC as well. Not saying it's GOTY but that title still goes to Witcher 3. As for Character Building System, I already know what my character build will be.

I think I will concentrate on Strength and intelligence

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@-God- said:
@Blabadon said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Looking forward to playing it. It will be a lot of fun to explore. Don't care about the RPG crap. Just give a fun game to play with a lot of quality content.

Really? What system?

Hopefully not PS4thplace

Agree. Bethesda can't port a PlayStation game worth a crap. See Skyrim when it launch to PS3 years ago.

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#33  Edited By deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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First thing I will do is remove the carry weight limit. (Yes I am a hoarder.)

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#34 AzatiS
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@-God-: Game itself though doesnt look epic at all

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#35 R4gn4r0k
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I'll get the amazing looking fallout anthology soon.

But I think I'll just jump straight into 4, that looks like the game I'll enjoy the most anyway.

@IgGy621985 said:

Quick, everyone throw your gaming PCs in the trash. PC gaming is officially dead.

What happened ? =O

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#36 deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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The amount of hipsters in this thread....-_-

We get it, you go against the stream and you are so unique for not liking Fallout 4...

Well done. Well done.

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#37 Ten_Pints
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Whats wrong with it? The only complaint I see is the graphics are not the best they could be. As long as the gameplay and toolset is good then who cares.

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#38 pelvist
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...I cant see anything remotely exciting about it either TBH.

Sorry in advance if my opinion upsets you for not suiting yours.

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#39 enzyme36
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Hipsters everywhere...

I really like how some new perks are hidden in higher ranks of the perks you see on the chart. You have access to almost any 1-star perk right from jump street... opens up a lot of options right off the bat. IMO this is sooooo much better than following scripted molds, as in at lvl 2 everyone takes this perk, at lvl 4 you have to get this perk.

This really looks solid with plenty of build varieties... and good perks for different role plays too. Top it all off... no lvl cap! Cant wait!

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#40 StormyJoe
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@-God-: I cannot wait for this game. So excited! I think I will come down with a 24 hour flu on release day...

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#41  Edited By glez13
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At least they didn't f*ck up this part, at first glance they completely upgraded it. Let's just hope the rest of the game follows suit.

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#42 enzyme36
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@StormyJoe said:

@-God-: I cannot wait for this game. So excited! I think I will come down with a 24 hour flu on release day...

haha... already took day off

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#43 Maroxad
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Definately looks better than those horrible perk trees. Should make each level and perk pick interesting rather than making players pick a perk just to get to the cooler ones later down the road.

That said, why does a charisma perk increase carrying cap by 50 and grant a 15% damage reduction per perk rank?

@-God- said:
@deeph said:

I dont follow casual trash like bethesda games. What is so cool about it?

The character building system is more complicated than anything in Witcher3, Bloodborne, and even Pillars of Eternity.....

It has infinite combinations and builds.

You can max every perk in the game.

And stat.

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#44  Edited By -God-
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@Maroxad said:

Definately looks better than those horrible perk trees. Should make each level and perk pick interesting rather than making players pick a perk just to get to the cooler ones later down the road.

That said, why does a charisma perk increase carrying cap by 50 and grant a 15% damage reduction per perk rank?

@-God- said:
@deeph said:

I dont follow casual trash like bethesda games. What is so cool about it?

The character building system is more complicated than anything in Witcher3, Bloodborne, and even Pillars of Eternity.....

It has infinite combinations and builds.

You can max every perk in the game.

And stat.

They said there is no level cap.

Not that there is no soft cap. You will eventually run out of quests and content. You will likely hit a wall, estimated level 50-70.

That is only 70~ out of 280 perks.

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#45 Big_Red_Button
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Everything they show about this game looks worse and worse.

Why do they keep making their games shallower and dumber?

An action game with basic stats and extremely limited dialogue does not an RPG make.

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#46 enzyme36
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@Maroxad said:

Definately looks better than those horrible perk trees. Should make each level and perk pick interesting rather than making players pick a perk just to get to the cooler ones later down the road.

That said, why does a charisma perk increase carrying cap by 50 and grant a 15% damage reduction per perk rank?

Thats a lone wanderer perk... only activates when you have no companion. I think the charisma choice has to do more with the loner status... and they had to give you a carrying buff if you dont have your mules.

Strong Back is still under strength.

On a side note... Charisma looks like its pretty good this time. Will need at least five to get that killer Party Animal perk.

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#47 bussinrounds
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@Maroxad said:

You can max every perk in the game.

And stat.

Exactly. Even if it doesn't look terrible at first glance, it'll be piss easy and let you become a great at everything. Like all Beth's bullshit aimed at teens/casuals who want to BE and do EVERYTHING at ALL TIMES.

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#48 MonsieurX
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@Big_Red_Button said:

Everything they show about this game looks worse and worse.

Why do they keep making their games shallower and dumber?

An action game with basic stats and extremely limited dialogue does not an RPG make.

To cater to the wider audience.

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@davillain- said:
@-God- said:
@Blabadon said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Looking forward to playing it. It will be a lot of fun to explore. Don't care about the RPG crap. Just give a fun game to play with a lot of quality content.

Really? What system?

Hopefully not PS4thplace

Agree. Bethesda can't port a PlayStation game worth a crap. See Skyrim when it launch to PS3 years ago.

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#50 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Bethesda Game Studios consistently releases amazing games, and their accolades and dedicated fanbases alone speaks volumes about their work.

I can not wait to play this come November.