Famitsu president hints on FFXIII/MGS4 PS3 exclusivity, DQIX sales and expect

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#1 wiiwillwiiwill
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Gamefront is reporting an article from Mainichi Newspapers where Hirokazu Hamamura, president of Enterbrain (Famitsu), said there was no guarantee on PS3 exclusivity for Final Fantasy XIII and MGS4, during a speech to journalists in Tokyo.

No surprise really, especially after the Monster Hunter 3 announcement, but I wonder if he knows more than he's saying? I can see 360 versions of both titles happening, and think modified versions for Wii are possible given the system's installed base. Obviously, the more good quality 3rd party support for Wii the better.

He also restated his opinion about DQIX becoming the biggest selling Dragon Quest game in Japan selling 5 million units, and commented on Wii's potential this holiday season with regards to Nintendo's recent conference:

Bloomberg: Nintendo's Wii to Widen Lead Over PS3, Xbox, Enterbrain Says
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#2 killtactics
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i can maybe see it with MGS4 but not FF... anyway speculation is just that... speculation...
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#3 Zhengi
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Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive.
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Yeah MGS4 on the Wii, good thinking there :?
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There are 2 things holding back FFXIII/MGS4 on the 360 -

1. Disc space. The obvious one.

2. Japanese sales. Another obvious one. The 360 isn't selling too well in America but still has the highest install base, but if it sold even okay in Japan (it's sold half a million - I am talking at least 3 million sold in Japan) MGS4 and XIII would've been on the 360 no doubt.

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#6 Chipp
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There are 2 things holding back FFXIII/MGS4 on the 360 -

1. Disc space. The obvious one.

2. Japanese sales. Another obvious one. The 360 isn't selling too well in America but still has the highest install base, but if it sold even okay in Japan (it's sold half a million - I am talking at least 3 million sold in Japan) MGS4 and XIII would've been on the 360 no doubt.

AHUGECAT

I agree with your second reason, but your first is just silly. You act as if you can put things on multi disk or compress files. Most games on blu ray are big because they use uncompressed audio, video and multiple languages. Every time I see people try to bring the blu ray capacity issue into the equation I just chuckle. Because blu ray is a non factor.

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Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. Zhengi

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. wiiwillwiiwill

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. Zhengi

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

I think japanfamistui president know more insiders than you.

you still have no proof why they have to stick with ps3.

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#10 CPM_basic
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Doesn't Sony owns a small % of Square? If so this basically guarantees exclusivity of FF titles. MGS on the other hand could possibly go multiplat. Either way I don't expect these games to be multiplat, at least for a long time after their exclusivity.

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There are 2 things holding back FFXIII/MGS4 on the 360 -

1. Disc space. The obvious one.

2. Japanese sales. Another obvious one. The 360 isn't selling too well in America but still has the highest install base, but if it sold even okay in Japan (it's sold half a million - I am talking at least 3 million sold in Japan) MGS4 and XIII would've been on the 360 no doubt.

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MGS and Final Fantasy are big sellers in America too.

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The creators of MGS4 said they are definately keeping it PS3 exclusive and Final Fantasy has always been a Playstation franchise since the PS1. I don't see any of them going multiplat unless PS3 sales are absolutely horrible by the time they come out.

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Wow it's been almost 7 minutes since the last "MGS4 to go to 360" thread. Props for being able to hold it in for so long.

Anyway, to the lems, I thought 360 was TEH BEST GAMING EXPERIENCE EVER CONCEIVED, why do you need Metal Gear or Final Fantasy? You have Splinter Cell and Blue Dragon, which are much, much better.

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#14 Chipp
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The creators of MGS4 said they are definately keeping it PS3 exclusive and Final Fantasy has always been a Playstation franchise since the PS1. I don't see any of them going multiplat unless PS3 sales are absolutely horrible by the time they come out.

sexy_chimp

Final Fantasy use to be a Nintendo franchise before Sony came into the picture, don't think Square-Enix isn't afraid to switch sides when needed.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. wiiwillwiiwill

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

I think japanfamistui president know more insiders than you.

you still have no proof why they have to stick with ps3.

I actually have to question Famitsu's president. Kojima has said that MGS 4 would be exclusive. SE has said that FFXIII would be exclusive. I want to know what insiders he has that says otherwise.

Also, I'm looking at the situation objectively. If PS3 can increase its install base and become a viable console, what's the point in making those games multiplat?

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Since both Square and Komjia has come out and said they are going to be on the PS3 and the PS3 only, I can guarantee we will never see those games on anything but the PS3.
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#17 Squall18
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I don't know wy people think MGS4 is sony's savior, it's an awesome game, but the franchis it'self however is not known by casual gamers usually like h alo or mario

However, FF13, I may get a ps3 just for that, man, it looks soooooooooooo awesome. If it did go to the 360, that would be awesome, but playstation has that certain feel for Final Fantasy games even though I don't want a ps3 right now that much

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#19 wiiwillwiiwill
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Doesn't Sony owns a small % of Square? If so this basically guarantees exclusivity of FF titles. MGS on the other hand could possibly go multiplat. Either way I don't expect these games to be multiplat, at least for a long time after their exclusivity.

CPM_basic

sony own about 8%percent share of square enix, butwhy DQ9 becameNDS exclusive, infinite undiscovery a x360 exclusive?

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SE is not the one who making infinite undiscovery right?
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#21 BigGimp77
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Yea idk how much of a say Sony has in SE. I mean the PSP is gettin a remake while the NDS is getting new games (DQ9, FF Tactics Advance 2, FFXII: Relavent Wings). Also the CC series for nintendo and the DQ: Swords game. I mean how much say does PS3 really have.

AND QUOTE ME ON THIS. If Square starts going Multiplat to 360 with thier main games (Not spin offs) I will DEFINATLY get a 360 instead of PS3.

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The creators of MGS4 said they are definately keeping it PS3 exclusive and Final Fantasy has always been a Playstation franchise since the PS1. I don't see any of them going multiplat unless PS3 sales are absolutely horrible by the time they come out.

sexy_chimp

Final Fantasy XI is on the 360.

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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. Zhengi

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

I think japanfamistui president know more insiders than you.

you still have no proof why they have to stick with ps3.

I actually have to question Famitsu's president. Kojima has said that MGS 4 would be exclusive. SE has said that FFXIII would be exclusive. I want to know what insiders he has that says otherwise.

Also, I'm looking at the situation objectively. If PS3 can increase its install base and become a viable console, what's the point in making those games multiplat?

actually both konami and square haven't confirmed ff13, mgs4 ps3 exclusive.while they complain about ps3 poor sales comsistently.

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#24 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

The creators of MGS4 said they are definately keeping it PS3 exclusive and Final Fantasy has always been a Playstation franchise since the PS1. I don't see any of them going multiplat unless PS3 sales are absolutely horrible by the time they come out.

Ramadear

Final Fantasy use to be a Nintendo franchise before Sony came into the picture, don't think Square-Enix isn't afraid to switch sides when needed.

That's a very good point...

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If the PS3 were to lose Final Fantasy XIII as an exclusive, best thing to do would be to buy SquareEnix. That's a large fanbase to command. Exclusives are the only thing to keep consoles alive. That's the reason why Nintendo has survived this long.

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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. Zhengi

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

I think japanfamistui president know more insiders than you.

you still have no proof why they have to stick with ps3.

I actually have to question Famitsu's president. Kojima has said that MGS 4 would be exclusive. SE has said that FFXIII would be exclusive. I want to know what insiders he has that says otherwise.

Also, I'm looking at the situation objectively. If PS3 can increase its install base and become a viable console, what's the point in making those games multiplat?

Yep, companies saying a game will be exclusive is the best indicator of exclusivty. I can't wait to play the exclusives Assassians Creed and Monster Hunter 3 on the PS3. After all, Ubisoft and Capcom said they were going to be PS3 exclusives!

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#27 Zhengi
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actually both konami and square haven't confirmed ff13, mgs4 ps3 exclusive.while they complain about ps3 poor sales comsistently.

wiiwillwiiwill

They've already confirmed it. SE has shown many graphs showing that FF XIII is on PS3. Kojima has said MGS 4 is exclusive to PS3. I don't understand where you're getting that they didn't confirm it.

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#29 BigGimp77
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Final Fantasy XI is on the 360.

Zeliard9

Meh I dont think that should count cuz FF XI=BLAH and it was technically a multiplat to begin with (PS2 PC).

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Yep, companies saying a game will be exclusive is the best indicator of exclusivty. I can't wait to play the exclusives Assassians Creed and Monster Hunter 3 on the PS3. After all, Ubisoft and Capcom said they were going to be PS3 exclusives!

yeah, and vf5 is a waterdowned ps3 exclusive with no online battle.also dmc4:D

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i could care less anymore....if i wanted to play MGs4 and FFXlll, i would just buy a ps3.....*shrugs*
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Id say this holiday season will determine wheather these games stay exclusive to sony or not.If the 360 and wii blow the ps3 out of the water in sales than of course youll see mgs and ff on other consoles.It just wouldnt be a good buisness decesion for a game maker to put there biggest titles on the console that has the smallest user base when they could sell millions on others.
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Personally i hate rpgs and im not the biggest metal gear fan so it doesnt really bother me if the 360 and wii never get either of those games.As far as stealth games go im more of a splinter cell fan and im even starting to get burnt out on that series.
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Well, we'll see what happens this holiday season with the $400 PS3. That might increase the install base enough for them to keep the games exclusive. jeffwulf

WELL, ps3 installment increase doesn't mean wii and 360 increase would stop. company only care money. not loyalty.

I didn't say the other two will stop. The thing is that the only problem with the PS3 for third party devs is that the install base isn't large enough. If the install base increases, that's one less concern they have with the PS3.

I think japanfamistui president know more insiders than you.

you still have no proof why they have to stick with ps3.

I actually have to question Famitsu's president. Kojima has said that MGS 4 would be exclusive. SE has said that FFXIII would be exclusive. I want to know what insiders he has that says otherwise.

Also, I'm looking at the situation objectively. If PS3 can increase its install base and become a viable console, what's the point in making those games multiplat?

Yep, companies saying a game will be exclusive is the best indicator of exclusivty. I can't wait to play the exclusives Assassians Creed and Monster Hunter 3 on the PS3. After all, Ubisoft and Capcom said they were going to be PS3 exclusives!

Not all developers are the same. Konami isn't Capcom and Square-Enix isn't Ubisoft.

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this is getting really old. mgs 4 will come in march if it were to come to 360 it would be so late it wouldn't even matter anymore. ffxiii would problaby be on 6 disc so i doubt se would even bother.
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Square Enix is trying to draw attention to JRPGs in the West by making new IPs (Infinite Undiscovery) and multiplats (The Last Remnant), but I doubt XIII will be released on the Xbox 360. Honestly, I think it would be best if they worked on new IPs for the Xbox 360 instead of ports you know? If they want to expand revenue in NA and the EU they have to support all three consoles this time around, which it seems they're doing. Exclusives sell the best and pull the most attention, so making exclusives for all platforms is win/win.

If Blue Dragon could sell over 400,000 world wide (A game targeted at a niche audience) I think Square has a shot at making their games sell well on the Xbox 360. The Japanese gamers WILL buy a console for 1 game, that's been proven with the large spike of sales for the Xbox 360 when Blue Dragon was released, and Final Fantasy 7:Crisis Core for the PSP. They just have to make a quality title and not a rehashed MMO and they'll do all right. (Even the port of FFXI sold 140,000 on the Xbox 360. Wierd)

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#37 excelR83
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Sony bailed Square out in their time of need, if Square didn't do the same for them, it would be deplorable. I don't think Japanese businesses do that to eachother.

MGS4 has a better chance of ending up a multiplat, imo.

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Considering that both companies have indicated that they wish to focus a lot more of their efforts in the western markets (where the money is) both games have a very high chance of becoming multiplatform, especially when the 360 is doing so well over here as compared to the PS3. The reason why it has not been confirmed as exclusive is because both companies are still unsure of how the PS3 will perform in the market and are waiting for the future to pan out (for example sales to pick up, which they have not).

If porting both games is financially feasible then it will probably happen, especially given the enormous development costs of those two titles. It's just business (and in my eyes it would be a very smart business move), not loyalty.

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if these games both flop in sales then maybe they will. BUT considering how much hype both these games are getting I think millions of cows will buy them and a port wont be beneficial.
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#40 Game13a13y
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why can't the lems just face the fact that both of those games are exclusive to PS 3 and remained to be that way until you finally hear the devs said otherwise?

lems, keep dreaming. :wink:

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#41 hatecalledlove
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I see one of the two going to the 360, I just don't see FF 13 going to the 360 with all the new ips they are making for that system. Mgs however I see going to the 360. The series creator has said he wants to work on the system and he has dodge the question without a def answer a couple of times by saying at the moment it is only on ps3. So I can see Mgs 4 eventually making its way to the ps3 but only after 6 months to year after the ps3 version comes out.
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#42 Bandit_Haze
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you people are so lateral minded

you say, FF13 won't go to the x360, or wii, cos of disk space, and memory, and teraflops, and whatever.. but if SE see money, it wouldn't be hard to build a game from scratch for either of those systems..

i'm not saying, it will happen, i'm just saying it could happen