Far Cry 2 vs Crysis

I see alot of people claiming over here that Crysis is the best thing since sliced bread,usually hermits and i personally think that they have a very biased view most probably due to the fact that Far Cry 2 is going to both consoles.If we all have un biased views,which people at GS will never have.We can see that games like Crysis can be ported to console.Ofcourse i do agree that PCs will always be FAR more superior.But UPTIL now there hasnt been any new feature invented on PCs to make games look much cooler(example soft-shadowing).All the features of PCs (currently) can be ported to the consoles.The latest cards which have come only have RAW power not any new feature.Correct me if i am wrong.

Heres a small comparison video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPHZhDhKDU

Heres another video showing of Warhound(X360),Dead Island(X360),Crysis,Farcry 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIvbDbpujRo

So now tell me which one do you think looks better ?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Far Cry using a dumbed down engine because it was made with consoles in mind?

Crysis is PC only.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Far Cry using a dumbed down engine because it was made with consoles in mind?

Crysis is PC only.

killerfist

HAhaha who gave you that idea ? Dunia engine is even better than Cryengine 2.Dunia is made by UBISOFT and is in production EVEN before Crysis came out.

Its not crap but they have VERY WELL optimized the engine.Thats ANOTHER advantage over the Cryengine 2.The Cryengine 2 undoubtably was the most horrible engine EVER made in terms of optimization (Four way SLI 9800GTX could only pull around 55+ average on Cryengine 2)Imagine that sh** !

it's true there are no new features PC has introduced this gen, however the old ones like:

-high-res textures

-high AA

-high AF

are still not avaible in console games

and while FC2 looks great, it doesn't look anywhere near as good as Crysis, even PC FC2 and we know that console FC2 will look a lot worse than PC version

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Far Cry using a dumbed down engine because it was made with consoles in mind?

Crysis is PC only.

lesner87

HAhaha who gave you that idea ? Dunia engine is even better than Cryengine 2.Dunia is made by UBISOFT and is in production EVEN before Crysis came out.

Its not crap but they have VERY WELL optimized the engine.Thats ANOTHER advantage over the Cryengine 2.The Cryengine 2 undoubtably was the most horrible engine EVER made in terms of optimization (Four way SLI 9800GTX could only pull around 55+ average on Cryengine 2)Imagine that sh** !

haha, joke post? Crysis runs smooth on my pc and the new crysiswarhead PC for 600$ can run the new crysis warhead with everything on high.

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt Far Cry using a dumbed down engine because it was made with consoles in mind?

Crysis is PC only.

lesner87

HAhaha who gave you that idea ? Dunia engine is even better than Cryengine 2.Dunia is made by UBISOFT and is in production EVEN before Crysis came out.

Its not crap but they have VERY WELL optimized the engine.Thats ANOTHER advantage over the Cryengine 2.The Cryengine 2 undoubtably was the most horrible engine EVER made in terms of optimization (Four way SLI 9800GTX could only pull around 55+ average on Cryengine 2)Imagine that sh** !

Dunia is based on Cryengine 1 (altho they say it is heavily modified), and you can say what you want about Crytek but they are good at making cutting edge engines. I find it unfair that people give Ubisoft full credit for the engine in Farcry 2, when it is built upon Cryteks old engine.

I think it is a bit too early to say which engine is better optimised since we have yet to have any independant benchmark of Farcry on high settings (remember when Crytek promised that Crysis would run on very high on the hardware at the time). Also with confirmation coming from other sources that Warhead looks and runs better than Crysis, Farcry is not now going against Crysis but Warhead.

Lets just wait for the release of Farcry 2 to see if it does stack up to Crysis in the various fields.

Crysis graphics are much better then farcry 2 imo.kozzy1234

Matter of a forced opinion.:D

it's true there are no new features PC has introduced this gen, however the old ones like:

-high-res textures

-high AA

-high AF

are still not avaible in console games

and while FC2 looks great, it doesn't look anywhere near as good as Crysis, even PC FC2 and we know that console FC2 will look a lot worse than PC version .AdrianWerner

Well i was going to say "Finally some one with knowledge" until i read the last part of your post.The console games which come out,if you ever met or talked to a dev you`ill know.They HONESTLY DECREASE HELL LOT of things from PCs.But again they decrease them in a way that they are ENTIRELY un-noticeable.Let me think of an example for you,yea for example compare both the 360 and PS3 version of GTAIV.The Ps3 didnt have ANY antialising where as the 360 version did.Now compare them side by side Ps3 verison seems to have been better antialised :).The reason : Because the DESIGNED THE GRAPHICS THEMSELVE to look antialised.Understand my point ? So similarly these tricky tweaks dont require ANYTHING at all from the hardware but once they are caught in motion they cheat your eye.

haha, joke post? Crysis runs smooth on my pc and the new crysiswarhead PC for 600$ can run the new crysis warhead with everything on high. .kozzy1234

to your this thing,watch this vid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knKWVG6blIA&feature=related

MAX FPS = 23.29.For a rig that costs nearly twice as much as a PS3 or Xbox 360 :).Is this what you get for your money ? And thats not the fault of the hardware.Its the FAULT OF CRYENGINE 2.IS that enough to prove my point :) ?

*TO ALL WHO ARE SAYING THAT CONSOLE FAR CRY 2 IS GONNA SU** INFRONT OF PC FAR CRY 2 PLEASE WATCH THIS :

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39190.html

This is a console footage.If you ask me for 200$ you get a Xbox 360.And for 200$ more you get a PS3 with a built in BLU RAY.THATS HELL LOT OF A GOOD DEAL.

:lol: lol?

FAR CRY = CRYTEK,CRY ENGINE

CRYSIS = CRYTEK,CRY ENGINE 2

FAR CRY 2 = sold license to ubisoft,ubisoft is nowhere near CRYTEK as game developer,dunia engine is not nowhere near CRY ENGINE 2

Dunia is based on Cryengine 1 (altho they say it is heavily modified), and you can say what you want about Crytek but they are good at making cutting edge engines. I find it unfair that people give Ubisoft full credit for the engine in Farcry 2, when it is built upon Cryteks old engine.

I think it is a bit too early to say which engine is better optimised since we have yet to have any independant benchmark of Farcry on high settings (remember when Crytek promised that Crysis would run on very high on the hardware at the time). Also with confirmation coming from other sources that Warhead looks and runs better than Crysis, Farcry is not now going against Crysis but Warhead.

Lets just wait for the release of Farcry 2 to see if it does stack up to Crysis in the various fields.

Philmon

A usual MISCONCEPTION amongst many people i have talked to.Its basically based on the Cryengine 1 ! Allright ok fine.BUT what actually do you mean by that ? I bring myself down and talk in your language.

That does not mean that its completely backing up from that engine.That simply mean that they took their idea from there.The DUNIA engine in tech terms is ONLY and ONLY using 2-3% Cryengine codelines.Rest all engine is build form scratch.Its better optimized,only because its in production since before Crysis.They have OBVIOUSLY upscaled all the features.I cannot explain anymore,read this for your self

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://tweakers.net/nieuws/50850/ubisoft-licht-tipje-van-de-sluier-over-far-cry-2-op.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://tweakers.net/nieuws/50850%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DxUy

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]Crysis graphics are much better then farcry 2 imo.lesner87

Matter of a forced opinion.:D

Forced OPINION? I dont think so,give me ANY Far CRY 2 screenshot and ill give you bether Crysis screenshot + Crysis is game from 2007 + CRYTEK made FAR CRY than sold license to PUBLISHERS (Ubisoft) and now Ubisoft is developing Far Cry 2 and ORIGINAL TEAM (CRYTEK) created NEW MASTERPIECE (CRYSIS)

Before you go jumping around that its targetted towards DX9.Let me tell you that it has OBVIOUSLY FULL DX10 support but at the same time it keeps in mind of the average gaming machine.So its indeed a FAR more smarter engine than Cryengine 2.This is called using a brain.

As i proved earlier,it has somewhat no relation to Cryengine.What usual hermits would like to believe and bash onto it for their own joy.:)

[QUOTE="lesner87"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]Crysis graphics are much better then farcry 2 imo.Lidve

Matter of a forced opinion.:D

Forced OPINION? I dont think so,give me ANY Far CRY 2 screenshot and ill give you bether Crysis screenshot + Crysis is game from 2007 + CRYTEK made FAR CRY than sold license to PUBLISHERS (Ubisoft) and now Ubisoft is developing Far Cry 2 and ORIGINAL TEAM (CRYTEK) created NEW MASTERPIECE (CRYSIS)

I already gave the video in which almost ALL types of trains/sceneries have been compared.In which if you ask me FC2 looks FAR more realistic.Here watch it again if you missed on it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPHZhDhKDU

Have fun.Again my point MATTER OF A FORCED OPINION :).

Before you go jumping around that its targetted towards DX9.Let me tell you that it has OBVIOUSLY FULL DX10 support but at the same time it keeps in mind of the average gaming machine.So its indeed a FAR more smarter engine than Cryengine 2.This is called using a brain.

As i proved earlier,it has somewhat no relation to Cryengine.What usual hermits would like to believe and bash onto it for their own joy.:)

lesner87

LOL? You are still ignoring everything i write/post???

Who even mentioned DX???

Did you even liked first FAR CRY??

Because people who made FAR CRY sold LICENSE (name etc.) to UBISOFT (ubisoft = publisher of Far Cry)

Those people decided to create new game called CRYSIS

So here you go,in REALITY CRYSIS = "spiritual succesor" to Far Cry,in reality CRYSIS = far cry 2

I already gave the video in which almost ALL types of trains/sceneries have been compared.In which if you ask me FC2 looks FAR more realistic.Here watch it again if you missed on it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPHZhDhKDU

Have fun.Again my point MATTER OF A FORCED OPINION :).

lesner87

LOL? Crysis looks WAY BETHER + its YOUTUBE video with like 320x240 resolution

to your this thing,watch this vid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knKWVG6blIA&feature=related

MAX FPS = 23.29.For a rig that costs nearly twice as much as a PS3 or Xbox 360 :).Is this what you get for your money ? And thats not the fault of the hardware.Its the FAULT OF CRYENGINE 2.IS that enough to prove my point :) ?

*TO ALL WHO ARE SAYING THAT CONSOLE FAR CRY 2 IS GONNA SU** INFRONT OF PC FAR CRY 2 PLEASE WATCH THIS :

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39190.html

This is a console footage.If you ask me for 200$ you get a Xbox 360.And for 200$ more you get a PS3 with a built in BLU RAY.THATS HELL LOT OF A GOOD DEAL.

lesner87

You are not making any sence.

1) You make claims that PS3/360 can do anything that PC can and yet the benchmark you use to point out how poorly Crysis is optimised is one of the game running in DX10, which neither the PS3 or the 360 can do. So which is it?

2) The benchmark of the game is running in a resolution that is much, much higher than anything the PS3/360 can handle (hell it is higher than most PC gamers can handle).

3) Warhead looks better and runs better than Crysis, why are you ignoring this? This would be like me judging the performance of the 360/PS3 only by the quality of its release titles and totaly ignoring all the games that came after it.

4) The people on GT themselves said that they were underwhelmed with the console version of Far Cry 2 because they had been used to seeing it on high settings and resolution on the PC. They said it looked like it was the medium setting on PC.

5) As for price, for $700 EA will sell you a PC that will run Warhead on Very High, now please tell me how in the world that is not a better deal?

You are not making any sence.

1) You make claims that PS3/360 can do anything that PC can and yet the benchmark you use to point out how poorly Crysis is optimised is one of the game running in DX10, which neither the PS3 or the 360 can do. So which is it?

2) The benchmark of the game is running in a resolution that is much, much higher than anything the PS3/360 can handle (hell it is higher than most PC gamers can handle).

3) Warhead looks better and runs better than Crysis, why are you ignoring this? This would be like me judging the performance of the 360/PS3 only by the quality of its release titles and totaly ignoring all the games that came after it.

4) The people on GT themselves said that they were underwhelmed with the console version of Far Cry 2 because they had been used to seeing it on high settings and resolution on the PC. They said it looked like it was the medium setting on PC.

5) As for price, for $700 EA will sell you a PC that will run Warhead on Very High, now please tell me how in the world that is not a better deal?

Philmon

Wow you are completely taking my point somewhere else.I am not fighting for consoles i am saying that Far Cry 2 is better than PC.Ok let me just go point by point.

1)That is exactly why i said that Crysis is a piece of crap infront of Far Cry 2 because it is NOT at all optimized.

2)Again you are turning it into a PC vs console which i am not looking for

3)HAHAHA hiding behind Warhead so SOON ? I thought you could protect youre beloved Crysis a little bit more :D.

Warhead is a completely different and a very well optimized and TONED down game.DONT EVEN bring it in here.No wonder it can run on a 700$ PC.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/previews/41251/Crysis-Warhead-Hands-on

Guess that does it for your post.Is there anything else ?

COMPARSION, HD RESOLUTION

Just one look at those ROCKS will tell you everythin

[QUOTE="lesner87"]I already gave the video in which almost ALL types of trains/sceneries have been compared.In which if you ask me FC2 looks FAR more realistic.Here watch it again if you missed on it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPHZhDhKDU

Have fun.Again my point MATTER OF A FORCED OPINION :).

Lidve

LOL? Crysis looks WAY BETHER + its YOUTUBE video with like 320x240 resolution

I wont bother replying to your posts.Judging by what you are writing.Have fun playing Crysis.

[QUOTE="Philmon"]Dunia is based on Cryengine 1 (altho they say it is heavily modified), and you can say what you want about Crytek but they are good at making cutting edge engines. I find it unfair that people give Ubisoft full credit for the engine in Farcry 2, when it is built upon Cryteks old engine.

I think it is a bit too early to say which engine is better optimised since we have yet to have any independant benchmark of Farcry on high settings (remember when Crytek promised that Crysis would run on very high on the hardware at the time). Also with confirmation coming from other sources that Warhead looks and runs better than Crysis, Farcry is not now going against Crysis but Warhead.

Lets just wait for the release of Farcry 2 to see if it does stack up to Crysis in the various fields.

lesner87

A usual MISCONCEPTION amongst many people i have talked to.Its basically based on the Cryengine 1 ! Allright ok fine.BUT what actually do you mean by that ? I bring myself down and talk in your language.

That does not mean that its completely backing up from that engine.That simply mean that they took their idea from there.The DUNIA engine in tech terms is ONLY and ONLY using 2-3% Cryengine codelines.Rest all engine is build form scratch.Its better optimized,only because its in production since before Crysis.They have OBVIOUSLY upscaled all the features.I cannot explain anymore,read this for your self

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://tweakers.net/nieuws/50850/ubisoft-licht-tipje-van-de-sluier-over-far-cry-2-op.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://tweakers.net/nieuws/50850%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DxUy

Do you even understand what you are talking about. The CryEngine 2 is pretty much undisputed throughout the industry as being able to achieve the highest graphical fidelity. If you believe that FarCry 2, especially the console version is visually better than Crysis them I'm gonna say you're alone on this one mate lol.

Crytek has a better record then Ubisoft..

That alone speaks for Crysis..

Also Crysis isnt just a hyped unreleased game, its a great released game. That really puts the odds in crysis favor.

Wow you are completely taking my point somewhere else.I am not fighting for consoles i am saying that Far Cry 2 is better than PC.Ok let me just go point by point.

1)That is exactly why i said that Crysis is a piece of crap infront of Far Cry 2 because it is NOT at all optimized.

LOL? CRYSIS IS ONE of BEST if not best optimised games out there. Problem is that its not optimised for HIGH END hardware (aka it runs verry good on low end but not so well on high end SLI and such)

Try runing Far Cry 2 on pixel shader 2 card and come back

2)Again you are turning it into a PC vs console which i am not looking for

3)HAHAHA hiding behind Warhead so SOON ? I thought you could protect youre beloved Crysis a little bit more :D.

No need,Crysis blow every game out there at least in Graphics department

Warhead is a completely different and a very well optimized and TONED down game.DONT EVEN bring it in here.No wonder it can run on a 700$ PC.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/previews/41251/Crysis-Warhead-Hands-on

Guess that does it for your post.Is there anything else ?

YOU CAN RUN CRYSIS on 700$ PC you obviously never played because i played Crysis on my old 7600 gt card with 3800+ procesor and it run just fine

lesner87

Answers are in GREEN

[QUOTE="Lidve"]I wont bother replying to your posts.Judging by what you are writing.Have fun playing Crysis.lesner87

Yes,continue AVOIDING direct comparsion.

You start war than say "i wont bother"

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about

[QUOTE="lesner87"]I wont bother replying to your posts.Judging by what you are writing.Have fun playing Crysis.Lidve

Yes,continue AVOIDING direct comparsion.

You start war than say "i wont bother"

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about

I know, this lesner87 is becoming quite amusing...he's not Wok7 is he? or his little brother?

The CryEngine 2 is a monster.

Nothing can really compare.

If Warhead is any indication it can be a monster, and run on a huge number of gaming computers, with its newly optimised CryEngine 2 (that will come as a patch for Crysis).

:roll:

I am really enjoying CRYSIS (pictured)

Enjoy your sub 720p FAR CRY 2

[QUOTE="Philmon"]Dunia is based on Cryengine 1 (altho they say it is heavily modified), and you can say what you want about Crytek but they are good at making cutting edge engines. I find it unfair that people give Ubisoft full credit for the engine in Farcry 2, when it is built upon Cryteks old engine.

I think it is a bit too early to say which engine is better optimised since we have yet to have any independant benchmark of Farcry on high settings (remember when Crytek promised that Crysis would run on very high on the hardware at the time). Also with confirmation coming from other sources that Warhead looks and runs better than Crysis, Farcry is not now going against Crysis but Warhead.

Lets just wait for the release of Farcry 2 to see if it does stack up to Crysis in the various fields.

lesner87

A usual MISCONCEPTION amongst many people i have talked to.Its basically based on the Cryengine 1 ! Allright ok fine.BUT what actually do you mean by that ? I bring myself down and talk in your language.

That does not mean that its completely backing up from that engine.That simply mean that they took their idea from there.The DUNIA engine in tech terms is ONLY and ONLY using 2-3% Cryengine codelines.Rest all engine is build form scratch.Its better optimized,only because its in production since before Crysis.They have OBVIOUSLY upscaled all the features.I cannot explain anymore,read this for your self

Did you read my whole post? At the very beginning I say the engine is heavily modified, but never the less it is easier to build upon something than start from scratch (which is what Crytek did with Cryengine 2). Why else do you think they built the engine on Cryengine 1 instead of making a new engine themselves (after all they have to pay Crytek for the use of the engine no matter how heavily modified it is). So yes they do deserve credit for the great work they have done with the engine (and from what I have seen they have done a great deal), but to me Crytek is more deserving of praise when it comes to making engines.

Hell,Far Cry 2 cant even touch STALKER not alone CRYSIS

(thanks to guys from Beyond 3D for posting these awesome shots)

Before you go jumping around that its targetted towards DX9.Let me tell you that it has OBVIOUSLY FULL DX10 support but at the same time it keeps in mind of the average gaming machine.So its indeed a FAR more smarter engine than Cryengine 2.This is called using a brain.

lesner87

Well, I guess Crysis Warhead just got rid of that argument...

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

Mix of Stalker and Crysis pics

3)HAHAHA hiding behind Warhead so SOON ? I thought you could protect youre beloved Crysis a little bit more :D.

lesner87

And Crysis is getting a engine optimisation patch that puts it on par with warhead :|

Not that the latest patch has not already optimised it enough...

Warhead toned down? :| ....

Its Crysis with the action on a larger scale and far more constant - if anything its more intensive.

*facepalm*

After reading most of this thread, maybe we should replace Gameplay scores in reviews with Engine, cuz thats what you enjoy playing.

For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs)pseudocaesar

And Oblivion is soooo huge /end sarcasm

FYI Elder Scrolls Daggerfall is like 150 000 Square kilometers (two times size of great britain or something) and its 3D

+ If Crysis doesnt use some technologies it doesnt mean CRYENGINE cant do it

"Growing vegetation" is just simple animation process that you dont need ENGINE to make,you just animate growing tree and place it wherever you want and set ANIMATION SPEED -100 lol :lol:

[QUOTE="Philmon"]

You are not making any sence.

1) You make claims that PS3/360 can do anything that PC can and yet the benchmark you use to point out how poorly Crysis is optimised is one of the game running in DX10, which neither the PS3 or the 360 can do. So which is it?

2) The benchmark of the game is running in a resolution that is much, much higher than anything the PS3/360 can handle (hell it is higher than most PC gamers can handle).

3) Warhead looks better and runs better than Crysis, why are you ignoring this? This would be like me judging the performance of the 360/PS3 only by the quality of its release titles and totaly ignoring all the games that came after it.

4) The people on GT themselves said that they were underwhelmed with the console version of Far Cry 2 because they had been used to seeing it on high settings and resolution on the PC. They said it looked like it was the medium setting on PC.

5) As for price, for $700 EA will sell you a PC that will run Warhead on Very High, now please tell me how in the world that is not a better deal?

lesner87

Wow you are completely taking my point somewhere else.I am not fighting for consoles i am saying that Far Cry 2 is better than PC.Ok let me just go point by point.

1)That is exactly why i said that Crysis is a piece of crap infront of Far Cry 2 because it is NOT at all optimized.

2)Again you are turning it into a PC vs console which i am not looking for

3)HAHAHA hiding behind Warhead so SOON ? I thought you could protect youre beloved Crysis a little bit more :D.

Warhead is a completely different and a very well optimized and TONED down game.DONT EVEN bring it in here.No wonder it can run on a 700$ PC.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/previews/41251/Crysis-Warhead-Hands-on

Guess that does it for your post.Is there anything else ?

1) Again you are missing my point. That benchmark is in DX10 (Very high setting), and we have yet to see Farcry 2 in DX10, let alone any independent benchmarks of the game. Your point is Farcry 2 is better optimised than Crysis, yet the benchmark you use to prove your point is one of Crysis running in a mode that we have not even seen in Farcry 2 yet.

2) I did not turn it into a PC vs Console, you did when you made a Price/performance comparison of benchmark results to the cost of PS3/360 and blamed it all on Cryengine 2.

3) Hiding? How? Are we talking about the Cryengine 2 here or not? Is Warhead running on another engine? What Warhead proves is that as an engine Cryengine 2 is a great engine, and that it can and will improve with time. I dont know how much of the improvements achieved in Warhead is backward compatible with Crysis, but if it is, it could mean more improvements in performance in Crysis.

4) Warhead is not "toned" down, the reviews say the game actually looks better and runs better than Crysis, while keeping the same open ended gameplay of Crysis.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/909/909584p1.html

I think you will find my review trumps your old preview. Well I hear the fat lady singing, that's my que to exit.

OMG its such a head ache replying to you guys.

Most of you just go on giving personal opinion.Please dont bother replying to me without any proper backup/proof(Other wise i will not answer).I have included proper backup and proof in each of posts.And you guys just go on crying like kids.I knew it was a bad idea to talk about this with kiddish hermits(thats what they call em here) like you guys.lol..

"Do you even understand what you are talking about. The CryEngine 2 is pretty much undisputed throughout the industry as being able to achieve the highest graphical fidelity. If you believe that FarCry 2, especially the console version is visually better than Crysis them I'm gonna say you're alone on this one mate lol."

My point wasnt that AT ALL.From the begining i am comparing the optimization/looks/features of DUNIA and CRYENGINE 2.Which in any experienced or smart opinion DUNIA is far better in every aspect.My point is not to compare CONSOLES and PCS.I clearly mentioned in my first post that PCs will be far more superior than consoles.

"I know, this lesner87 is becoming quite amusing...he's not Wok7 is he? or his little brother?"

So you guys make fun of a person who provides his facts and proof over here ? :D

"The CryEngine 2 is a monster.

Nothing can really compare.

If Warhead is any indication it can be a monster, and run on a huge number of gaming computers, with its newly optimised CryEngine 2 (that will come as a patch for Crysis). "

This is your monster engine ?

http://www.ripten.com/2008/04/07/ps3360-cry-engine-2-to-look-near-high-settings-on-pc/

"Did you read my whole post? At the very beginning I say the engine is heavily modified, but never the less it is easier to build upon something than start from scratch (which is what Crytek did with Cryengine 2). Why else do you think they built the engine on Cryengine 1 instead of making a new engine themselves (after all they have to pay Crytek for the use of the engine no matter how heavily modified it is). So yes they do deserve credit for the great work they have done with the engine (and from what I have seen they have done a great deal), but to me Crytek is more deserving of praise when it comes to making engines."

They would do that because its a smarter thing to do.Theres a difference between obssesions and aims :).So my point proved.

Keep dreaming and reading fake hype articles.

I hope you realise that 8800 GTX is at least 3 times more powerfull than card in Play Station 3 / Xbox 360

AND 8800 GTX is OUTDATED

[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="Lidve"]I wont bother replying to your posts.Judging by what you are writing.Have fun playing Crysis.Lidve

Yes,continue AVOIDING direct comparsion.

You start war than say "i wont bother"

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about

Dude enough with the posting pics on this thread allrite.Anyone can do that.I avoid you because you are person who thinks that Cryengine 2 the most horibly optimized engine in the history is VERY WELL optimized...Yes thats exactly why i dont bother and thats exactly why i told you to go and play Crysis and enjoy that.

[QUOTE="pseudocaesar"]

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

lesner87

Lol even Zelda had dynamic night - day change

As i said growing vegetation is nothing more than ANIMATION of growing tree that plays in slow motion you dont need engine for that

Everything is possible to be done in CryEngine 2 as i said you dont need some "special engine" to do most of those things - just a little coding and work with animation

Keep dreaming and reading fake hype articles.

I hope you realise that 8800 GTX is at least 3 times more powerfull than card in Play Station 3 / Xbox 360

AND 8800 GTX is OUTDATED

Lidve

This is why i dont argue with fanboys like you ! CAn you please explain to me how programing on consoles work ?

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

pseudocaesar

FINALLY some one with brains !

Dude enough with the posting pics on this thread allrite.Anyone can do that.I avoid you because you are person who thinks that Cryengine 2 the most horibly optimized engine in the history is VERY WELL optimized...Yes thats exactly why i dont bother and thats exactly why i told you to go and play Crysis and enjoy that.lesner87

Of course it is

As i said problem is with some high end cards and drivers

mybe you should start spreading FALSE info and actualy look at FACTS

But you can play Crysis on verry old machines

[QUOTE="pseudocaesar"]

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

lesner87

FINALLY some one with brains !

Gothic 3 had most of these "EFFECTS" and still its engine sucked

lol even ZELDA ocarina of time had Day-night cycle

Oblivion is not huge

Elder Scrolls Daggerfall IS HUGE with ~ 150 000 square kilometers

But i allready said that you are just ignoring FACTS and than pretending that you are one with "true facts"

PROOF OF AWESOME OPTIMIZATION (at least for low end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duji5Gyjkrc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9d9EyysQ0

Wake up

[QUOTE="pseudocaesar"]

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

lesner87

FINALLY some one who agrees with me!

Fixed ;)

Interesting paragraph pulled from the article posted earlier.

"Well there is no doubt that porting our engine to the PlayStation 3 is the more challenging of our two ongoing conversion projects, but that works to our advantage in the end. We feel certain we have the ability to get the most that is possible out of that platform, and therefore PS3 games which run on our engine in the future will definitely stand significantly apart from other games that don't."

Its simple really.

Crysis has better Graphics.

Dunia engine has better effects.

Now, by effects i mean, regenerative vegetation, growing vegetation, real time day night cycles, real time real weather systems, cloud formation, fire propagation, weapons jam and malfunction, the health system is better too ie dislocations and shrapnel etc. For a 50 sq km (which is bigger than oblivion so stop making the comparison noobs), to constantly stream this is quite an amazing feat. So while Cryengine may bet prettier, the Dunia engine is far more substantial and powerful in terms of real worldness.

pseudocaesar

To me all those things seem possible in Cryengine 2.

1) Realtime day/night cycle should be no problem for the engine (the beginning of Crysis does have a sunrise), it is just not implemented in the game.

2) Weapon jam/malfuntion is again not a great deal and can be implemented in the engine, it is just does not fit in with the Crysis setting

3) I personally find the health system of Crysis better. While the one in Farcry 2 is more visual, it also seems more ludicrous to me. At least the health system in Crysis is vaguely plausible in its SF setting. However again the engine is capable of it.

4) As for the rest they can all be implemented in the Cryengine, it is just Crytek never considered it or did not fit the setting and by the same token things like frozen waves, avalanches and nuclear weapons are not in Farcry 2, does that mean the Dunia engine is incapable of creating any of those features?

Until we see and play the final version of Farycry 2 we wont know how well it stacks up to Crysis or how the engine stacks up to Cryengine 2.