FFXV needs to sell 10 mil to be successful!!!!???

10 million seems realistic. I would have guessed they were aiming for 20 million considering they are going all out with a movie, anime series, mobile game, expensive voice actors, etc.

$20,000,000 revenue from the ultimate collector's edition ($300*30,000*2) helps a little for income.

I don't know about them selling so many though, how many did FFXIII sell on two different consoles? I guess if it's really a return to form and the game reviews well, that should boost sales.

@Zlurodirom:

Thats how much all FF games sold

Goodluck with that...

No PC release and they expect to hit 10 million. Uh OK.

@Kashiwaba: so if we add steamspy XIII numbers, we get around 7.5 million. Do it could be possible.

I mean, at the time SE hadn't soiled the final fantasy name with their XIII series, and it was still a popular series, neither of which are as true today as 7 years ago. But they look like they're working really hard generating hype, and if this scores in the 90s, and they have a PC port that isn't 5 years after it comes out. I could see it standing a chance.

But that's such a lofty goal, why does it have to outsell every final fantasy but VII (that chart doesn't include PC sales of FF VII, so it should be higher I believe)? At least they put lifetime in there and not a shorter timeline.

Uhh what, I really doubt they actually mean that cause that would mean FF15 would be one of the most profitable games ever if not the most. Not including the 30,000 UE which cost $260 some dollars, if they sold 9,970,000 million regular copies they would be making $598,200,000 (the 30,000 UE copies alone are gonna net 8.1 million), that's not even inc the DE which is $90.

I can see FF15 easily selling 6 million, maybe even 8 million.

@Ballroompirate:

But this game went through hell in development for 10 years changing names, changing engine 3 times and switching from 7th to 8th gen so I guess that makes sense.

It won't be successful commercially unless its releasing for Steam. Looks at The Witcher 3 sales.

Wouldn't surprise me if they have actually spent 10 years on it.

It might hit 10 million though since I'm sure it's release will be a big event.

They meant as an IP. FFXV-2, FFXV-3, FFXV-Type D should all help.

"To be successful"? How about, considering 10 years of development, two titles, and completely different platforms and console generation than originally intended, how many copies must they sell to break even? Yeah, they should really consider a PC port too or I don't see them hitting their target.

Well they're not getting one from me. The combat is not fun. Bring back the turn based and I'll buy again

Well, maybe if they weren't wasting money on that stupid anime and movie tie in, maybe their goals would be a bit more realistic.

So they need to sell over 10 million to break even or to make profits? Seems like Final Fantasy's future is on the line or the entire staffs jobs are on the line?

I don't think it's possible given how tarnished the FF name actually is. If this was 1997 when SquareSoft was churning out masterpiece after masterpiece every 3-4 years, 10 million might of been possible. But now.. People have been waiting close to a decade for this game. The wait was tiresome and draining for many. Then there was the abysmal FFXIII series which just made people lose hope in the franchise. I'm already having my doubts about this game. I hope the storyline makes up for the the extremely button mashy, no depth combat system.

A decade long development cycle can do that to a game.

Jesus...am I crazy to think that's a little much?

Life time I guess is doable, but they're already thinking lifetime sales?

It's a lot much for a FF game. And in line with how S-E management operates.

Hmm...so 1 million for each year in development.

Twice as much as The Witcher 3? That game already sold 10 million and it hasn't been a year yet. It would only have to be a smidgen as successful as W3 to reach that margin in the lifetime of the game.

@arunsunk: Taw3 sold 10 million?

This is excellent news.

5 million seems more realistic. I wonder how many people preordered from last night's reveal.

They better release on every possible platform then because that is a lofty goal.

Yep.

"In these 20 million units sold, The Witcher 3 constitutes almost 10 million" - link

Sounds about right for a big budget AAA game.

Don't think so, no way it can outsell TW3 ...

They shouldn't have considered PC an afterthought.

This is crazy number, reminds me with what happened with Tomb Raider Reboot.

There are plenty enough weeaboos to meet that quota.

Shipped, not sold.

its actually very high. Square are hoping the final fantasy name will help it sell millions.

Its ok, Squeenix will just blame the western studios who are actually putting out good games for failing after this game flops critically and commercially.

If they are spending that much on the game, they are spending way too much. They are going to blow up if they really have these expectations. What happened to companies being ecstatic to hit the one million mark?

The quote from Adam Kiciński says sold not shipped. I don't know why the Gamespot/Twinfinite are saying shipped.

lol...good luck with that..they're gonna need it. Sad Squenix still haven't learn anything. :P

Honestly, I think they are investing on XV to save face for the franchise. I'd like to think that Square-Enix knows that they beat the snot out of their golden egg laying goose last generation. Between FFXIII having piss poor sales for its sequels or FFXIV originally having to be completely scrapped and then rebuilt, they have been burning the clutch right out of a series that should make humongous sales like clockwork.

Going HAM on FFXV might seem crazy on the outside looking in, but the truth is that if they find ways of capitalizing on the movie, then it won't actually take 10M copies of the game to break even. On top of that, there's plenty of evidence to suggest this is going to PC which is a healthy space for jrpg sales as of late. All the same, if they ultimately lose a couple million, what is far more important at the end of the day is winning the fanbase back for Final Fantasy XVI and beyond. The fact they are putting this much behind the game is encouraging.

I admit I'm hoping I can be one of those people on the waiting list for the $270 UE

that's an unrealistic expectation for a JRPG,even one as big as FF

Square Enix has always seemed to consider Final Fantasy the "Star Wars" of video games.

They have absurd expectations for their brands.

You're comparing a franchise which was once PC exclusive with another franchise that had stronger roots in the console sector than the PC.

Besides, you're also comparing a franchise notorious for actually being good (9/10 or 10/10 quality) with another franchise which has been little more than mediocre over the last decade.

Comparisons are clearly not your strength

Even at it's most popular moments FF couldn't sell 10+M. Good freakin' luck.

If so, there have to be PC and NX releases on the way. They need to put this on everything that can run it.

thats a concern. though if this has really been in development for 10 years with 3 engine replacements and so on then it smells like a badly mismanaged project and the costs have just run away from them.

that cant hold though...needing 10 million units sold to hit profit. something has to give.

the one thing i will say is that this is the first FF in a long long time to actually make me sit up and take notice.

@osan0: "thats a concern. though if this has really been in development for 10 years with 3 engine replacements and so on then it smells like a badly mismanaged project and the costs have just run away from them."

Yea I agree with this. 10 years is a very long time But how many FF games came out in the last 10 years?

That maybe, but this is also riding on the current development team that made XV, if they fail to return all the money back they lost during development, it will hurt Square Enix a lot and will probably cut jobs and reshuffle the FF teams.

I hope FF15 sell 10 million desevet it. Other mediocre games like star war cod destiny fifa BF sell 10 million and dont deserve it

How would you know that FF15 deserves it? You don't have the game, and you can't base an entire opinion on demos.

I've already pre-ordered two delux edition.. this game will easily get 10+ million sales

NO game matters this year except FF15

Man it annoys me when people use an unnecessary amount of exclamation and/or question marks in their topic title. It makes it seem like you're a ten year old making a thread for the very first time.

They need every ff fan to buy multiple copies to reach that, 10+ million on xbox+ps4 and very late PC port? On a series that has been on decline since VII? Yeah no