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#1 Khoo1992
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I'm wondering which game SW think is better.

Personally, I prefer FIFA 12, I just like the feel of the game more than PES. Although PES 2012 has been improved a lot.

Seems like most critics agree with me. From Metacritic:

FIFA 12 - 92
PES 2012 - 80

Which one you guys prefer?

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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PES. PES 11 won me back :P

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#3 VendettaRed07
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PES has better celebrations but I like everything else about fifa better.

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#4 cheese_game619
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The PES fans can delude themselves all they want but that series has been bad since it left the PS2. FIFA has always been pretty bad. FIFA 09 was their first playable game and to be fair they have been steadily improving since then. I'd still take PES4,5 or 6 on a PS2 over any of them though.
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#5 padaporra
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FIFA12
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FIFA has been the better franchise since FIFA09.

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#6 Kashiwaba
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deluding? I've been playing both FIFA and pes every year since 2006 and I can tell you pes got a superior local multiplayer and 2 on 2 players match but FIFA got a superior single player experience also after 2012 I think the gap between the 2 games in single player is getting smaller since pes fixed the AI a lot but FIFA got a way better online multiplayer and more game modes.
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#7 GrilledCharlie
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Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

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#8 Kashiwaba
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Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

GrilledCharlie
then stick with your hand egg or your boring basket ball.
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#9 LongZhiZi
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I haven't played either of these two specific versions, but in general, PES > Fifa. I always find the claims of how "realistic" Fifa is to be laughable once videos of people scoring from mid-field with a lob shot appear on Youtube. (Don't know if FIFA 12 still has this issue, however)
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#11 Zelgadiss
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Fifa 12!!!!!

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#12 beganoo
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Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

GrilledCharlie

Soccer?You mean football btw.No one cares what Americans call it because it's extremely wrong. Internationally it is known as football and its far more popular then the american football world wide.

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#13 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

Kashiwaba
then stick with your hand egg or your boring basket ball.

I absolutely will. Keep your flopball. International football players are excellent actors though. Too bad they only know how to act like babies instead of men.
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#14 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

beganoo

Soccer?You mean football btw.No one cares what Americans call it because it's extremely wrong. Internationally it is known as football and its far more popular then the american football world wide.

Americans don't care that nobody cares what we call it. I admit that it doesn't make much sense. They should have just called it "better than football...ball". Or maybe "players get fined and penalized for pretending to be hurt ball". The only reason that American football is not popular worldwide is because there is no other country that can put together even one team of athletes with the combination of skill and size to compete with Americans. No offense...just truth.
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

GrilledCharlie

Soccer?You mean football btw.No one cares what Americans call it because it's extremely wrong. Internationally it is known as football and its far more popular then the american football world wide.

Americans don't care that nobody cares what we call it. I admit that it doesn't make much sense. They should have just called it "better than football...ball". Or maybe "players get fined and penalized for pretending to be hurt ball". The only reason that American football is not popular worldwide is because there is no other country that can put together even one team of athletes with the combination of skill and size to compete with Americans. No offense...just truth.

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

Soccer?You mean football btw.No one cares what Americans call it because it's extremely wrong. Internationally it is known as football and its far more popular then the american football world wide.

mattuk69

Americans don't care that nobody cares what we call it. I admit that it doesn't make much sense. They should have just called it "better than football...ball". Or maybe "players get fined and penalized for pretending to be hurt ball". The only reason that American football is not popular worldwide is because there is no other country that can put together even one team of athletes with the combination of skill and size to compete with Americans. No offense...just truth.

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Americans don't care that nobody cares what we call it. I admit that it doesn't make much sense. They should have just called it "better than football...ball". Or maybe "players get fined and penalized for pretending to be hurt ball". The only reason that American football is not popular worldwide is because there is no other country that can put together even one team of athletes with the combination of skill and size to compete with Americans. No offense...just truth.Arach666

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

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#18 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] Americans don't care that nobody cares what we call it. I admit that it doesn't make much sense. They should have just called it "better than football...ball". Or maybe "players get fined and penalized for pretending to be hurt ball". The only reason that American football is not popular worldwide is because there is no other country that can put together even one team of athletes with the combination of skill and size to compete with Americans. No offense...just truth.Arach666

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Rugby is just a boring game of keep away. Its like watching an NFL game with nothing but runs and laterals allowed...boring. I would love to see a game between the All Blacks and any NFL team in an NFL style game where there is actually some organization and style. The All Blacks would be lost playing in a game that requires practice and timing. Besides, those guys are nowhere near the size and strength of NFL lineman and linebackers.
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#20 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

mattuk69

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

Thank you for proving my point with those pics. You really think those munchkins in red could compete physically with guys who are 6 foot 5 inches and 300 pounds who can still run a 4.5 40? By the way, time outs are part of strategy...which is non-existent in rugby.

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#21 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

GrilledCharlie

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Rugby is just a boring game of keep away. Its like watching an NFL game with nothing but runs and laterals allowed...boring. I would love to see a game between the All Blacks and any NFL team in an NFL style game where there is actually some organization and style. The All Blacks would be lost playing in a game that requires practice and timing. Besides, those guys are nowhere near the size and strength of NFL lineman and linebackers.

Organization and style? Eggball you bend over, throw the ball till sum1 catches it. Rubgy they have to move up the feild as a unit and use teamwork. Face it you have a world cup deal with only American teams because the rest of the world think's its trash. Im not a big fan of rugby btw.
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#22 killa4lyfe
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Fifa 12 is AMAZING. I love the single player offering. I already played through a whole season with Barcelona and it was amazing. I have yet to try PES 12 but it has a lot to live up to, to atleast top Fifa. I intend to give it a chance some time later. :)
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#23 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="Arach666"]

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

mattuk69

Rugby is just a boring game of keep away. Its like watching an NFL game with nothing but runs and laterals allowed...boring. I would love to see a game between the All Blacks and any NFL team in an NFL style game where there is actually some organization and style. The All Blacks would be lost playing in a game that requires practice and timing. Besides, those guys are nowhere near the size and strength of NFL lineman and linebackers.

Organization and style? Eggball you bend over, throw the ball till sum1 catches it. Rubgy they have to move up the feild as a unit and use teamwork. Face it you have a world cup deal with only American teams because the rest of the world think's its trash. Im not a big fan of rugby btw.

Move up the field as a unit? It's like reverse tug of war...except more boring. It's only American teams because nobody else can compete. All you need to play soccer and rugby is a ball. American football costs money to play and requires practice to play. At least we both agree that rugby sucks. I'm not a fan of it either.

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#24 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

GrilledCharlie

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

Thank you for proving my point with those pics. You really think those munchkins in red could compete physically with guys who are 6 foot 5 inches and 300 pounds who can still run a 4.5 40? By the way, time outs are part of strategy...which is non-existent in rugby.

I dont give a foook how tall, fat and ugly they are. If Americans really think Size is this important in your sport i feel sorry for you.

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#25 killa4lyfe
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I swear the title of this thread reads "FIFA 12 vs. PES 2012" and has literally no relationship with either Rugby or Madden/American Football. :?

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#26 GrilledCharlie
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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

mattuk69

Thank you for proving my point with those pics. You really think those munchkins in red could compete physically with guys who are 6 foot 5 inches and 300 pounds who can still run a 4.5 40? By the way, time outs are part of strategy...which is non-existent in rugby.

I dont give a foook how tall, fat and ugly they are. If Americans really think Size is this important in your sport i feel sorry for you.

Size, strength, speed, and agility is important in a physical sport, regardless of how ugly they are. When a rugby player at 5'8" comes up against a linebacker that is 6'2" 250lbs with the speed and agility of a mongoose, who do you think is going down?
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#29 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

mattuk69

Thank you for proving my point with those pics. You really think those munchkins in red could compete physically with guys who are 6 foot 5 inches and 300 pounds who can still run a 4.5 40? By the way, time outs are part of strategy...which is non-existent in rugby.

I dont give a foook how tall, fat and ugly they are. If Americans really think Size is this important in your sport i feel sorry for you.

Listen, I love association football, but I really like american football too.. The reason a lot of americans make fun of football and call it stupid is mostly because A) We suck at it B) Our league is meh compared to others C) Most don't fully understand the sport because they haven't been properly exposed to it. So honestly I wouldn't bother getting into an argument with them because they really don't know what they are talking about.

Generally whenever an american says, meh whatever football sucks the first responce is just "loollll well you like your stupid sissy rugby" which I am sorry is just as misguided as the other guy calling it flopball.

Yes they do wear helmets, but they have to because if they didn't there would litterally be critical injuries every single game. In a physcal sport, that involves forcing your body down on another person I can't think of anything that is more important than height/weight. They aren't just fat either, there is a difference between weighing alot and just being out of shape, sort of like sumo wrestlers, they are fat but they train their bodies constantly. And the sport is complex, different positions call for different body types, like generally the "fat ones" are what is called an offensive line, and their job is to basically be a wall to stop the defenders from getting to and tackling the quaterback. Their weight gives them stopping power against the other positions like line backer which are generally more like the body type of a common rugby player

Clay Matthews for example, 6'3'' 255lbps, and as fast as a cheeta. There are crazy athletes in the NFL, as their are in rugby as well, but the sports call for different body types and athletic abilities because they opperate so differently. Rugby goes non stop, and generally the players stocky and agile, and the point of the sport is to get the player to give up and throw away the ball, not simply tackle the guy who has it which is why they don't really need helmets..

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Completely agree with what is posted above. Now let's end this. I want to hear some people's opinion about PES and FIFA, from people who have played both :D
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#31 Khoo1992
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Stop arguing about those sports!!! We are here to talk about the games!!!

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#33 Merex760
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

The all blacks rugby team might have something to say about that.

Fact is American Football is just sissy Rugby.

mattuk69

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

I like soccer, rugby, and american football - but your post is bias garbage. Football has a WIDE VARIETY of players with different physiques. Different positions require completely different body builds to compete. It's one of the great things about the sport.

Football isn't just a bunch of fatties.

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#34 beganoo
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Merex760

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

I like soccer, rugby, and american football - but your post is bias garbage. Football has a WIDE VARIETY of players with different physiques. Different positions require completely different body builds to compete. It's one of the great things about the sport.

Football isn't just a bunch of fatties.

Scotty is about to beam up that guy right on to the Enterprise.

Seriously tho, is it even possible for those those guys to wear more ****?

Basketball is the best American sport by far.The others are meh imo.

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#35 Ironbash
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

I would love to see a match between the All Blacks(or other rugby teams)against an American footbal team but rugby style,no helmets and that armor they use,that would be fun to watch lol.

Merex760

Id love to see it too. But i doubt Any American Football player could get past McDonalds.

No wonder they need time outs.

I like soccer, rugby, and american football - but your post is bias garbage. Football has a WIDE VARIETY of players with different physiques. Different positions require completely different body builds to compete. It's one of the great things about the sport.

Football isn't just a bunch of fatties.

The 7 tuilagi brothers are beast. And they have 1 sister, so if you do anything to her, better watch your back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibc4cByOdEo

Back to the topic, FIFA 12 is just better with more license and more believable animations

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#36 Postal_Guy
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Rofl...

but no rly, I like FIFA 12 better. I've played only 1 PES game and the feel I got of it wasn't as good as FIFA

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#37 hippiesanta
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isnt both game are basicly the same?...... just like fps
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#38 ccagracing
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I think Fifa 12 is just a little better but PES new control the player off the ball sounds awesome as the AI in both games is awful. Fifa has the monopoly on the offical licences for the game and automatically get a .5 of a review score higher straight away.

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#39 shalashaska88
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Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

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Thread destroyed because ONE American kid decided to show how much he hates football. Bravo. If you can't contribute anything healthy to this discussion Charlie, DON'T. *sigh*
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#40 shalashaska88
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My answer. FIFA 12, for the last 4 years.
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#41 ForceFreeze
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Presentation, modes and superior online component - FIFA

AI, distinct player individuality, more realistic gameplay to real soccer (but still far from a sports sim, a good and a bad thing) - PES/Winning Eleven

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#42 monkeysmoke
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Neither...soccer sucks and so do soccer games.

GrilledCharlie
Sorry for you but i spend most of my gaming time on PES and FIFA. After i beat my shooters and adventure games i always revert back to PES and FIFA.
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#44 sukraj
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Fifa 2012

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#45 Qwark-PS-Snake
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From the demos I'm going with Pro. Pes 2011 was the worst football game I've ever played so I can't believe they fixed so much in a year.

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#46 eyebrows
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Presentation, modes and superior online component - FIFA

AI, distinct player individuality, more realistic gameplay to real soccer (but still far from a sports sim, a good and a bad thing) - PES/Winning Eleven

ForceFreeze

Well that was summed up perfectly :P

Totally agree, if only they could be merged as one...

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#47 monkeysmoke
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FIFA 12 is an almost perfect game but it lacks one major thing to PES...........CUTSCENES. In PES 12 there're cutscenes for new signed player, ballon d'or award, european best player award and more. There is no doubt that cutscenes adds details to a sport game and PES excells in this area. FIFA should do something about it.....though FIFA 12 is the better soccer game.
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#48 GrilledCharlie
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PES definitely takes it in the flop department. They let you choose when and which body part to fake an injury with. In settings they are smart enough to put quotation marks around the "injury" setting. Very realistic.

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Presentation, modes and superior online component - FIFA

AI, distinct player individuality, more realistic gameplay to real soccer (but still far from a sports sim, a good and a bad thing) - PES/Winning Eleven

ForceFreeze

Nah FIFA is more akin to authentic football than PES currently is. The way PES got player individuality is through is by negating the realism of football so that celebrity players can act like themselves in the game.

I like both, though I'm playing FIFA 12 much more. I'm incredibly frustrated with FIFA 12 because YOUR TEAM MATES NEVER MAKE RUNS. That's where PES 2012 excels.

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#50 Sirlancelot2011
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Hmm, which one of these two do you think have a better opponent AI? An AI good enough to face, without cheating, a solid player defense & offense. An AI that doesn't relies in the player inability in the defensive department or with the shoot. Are FIFA or PES 2012 editions a real challenge due to an improved AI or a greater importance of each footballer stats? (again, without resorting to cheat) I played both the PES and FIFA 2009 editions for some time and got eventually bored due to the lack of such features. When you reached the end of the learning curve and dominated both the defensive and the offensive departments, challenge was over. Completely. Is it now any different? By the way, in which game your teammate footballer statistics play a more important role? In past editions, Speed was by far the most important stat, to the point things like feint or organization related skills were mostly pointless and as such, impressive real life players like Xavi were only valuable when face them as opponents, never when part of your team. I mean: Speed: It depended 100% on the footballer stat. Shoot: It depended just partially on the footballer stat. Player skill with the pad was way more relevant. Feint: Almost 100% dependant on the player skill with the pad.