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#51 ConanTheStoner
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Ironically enough this is based on the Miqo'te from FFXIV.

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And the article states that the screenshot is her victory pose. I don't find this intrinsically different from any other DLC pack that grants skins.

I'm so ready for this gen to be over, just so Square Enix can move on from the XIII series.

whiskeystrike

It kind of sucks that they're using VSXIII as their next gen kick off though.  I was hoping for something to surprise us with FFXV, not the same game we've been seeing in development for the past 7 years.

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#52 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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This is what Square Enix and Final Fantasy has become.
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#53 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Ironically enough this is based on the Miqo'te from FFXIV.

FFXIV_2.0_Miquote_Artwork.jpg

And the article states that the screenshot is her victory pose. I don't find this intrinsically different from any other DLC pack that grants skins.

I'm so ready for this gen to be over, just so Square Enix can move on from the XIII series.

ConanTheStoner

It kind of sucks that they're using VSXIII as their next gen kick off though.  I was hoping for something to surprise us with FFXV, not the same game we've been seeing in development for the past 7 years.

They probably developed it along with *gasp* XV-II and Noctis Return.
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#54 Lionheart08
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Dude, why?

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#55 ConanTheStoner
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[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Ironically enough this is based on the Miqo'te from FFXIV.

FFXIV_2.0_Miquote_Artwork.jpg

And the article states that the screenshot is her victory pose. I don't find this intrinsically different from any other DLC pack that grants skins.

I'm so ready for this gen to be over, just so Square Enix can move on from the XIII series.

rjdofu

It kind of sucks that they're using VSXIII as their next gen kick off though.  I was hoping for something to surprise us with FFXV, not the same game we've been seeing in development for the past 7 years.

They probably developed it along with *gasp* XV-II and Noctis Return.

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#56 DJ-Lafleur
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Yeah, I'll pass...

IF I were to get this game (which I likely won't), I'd get the Cloud outfit.

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#57 Sparky04
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Well there it goes, the one thing they managed to do right in Final Fantasy XIII was make a compelling character in Lightning and now they just made her an object to ogle at instead of a character to identify with. 

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#58 finalfantasy94
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This looks like terrible fan art.

Every time I think FFs descent into mediocrity cant go any further, SE is there to prove me wrong.

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its a costume dude. Seriously people will use anything these days to bash something they dont like.

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#59 josephl64
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Well there it goes, the one thing they managed to do right in Final Fantasy XIII was make a compelling character in Lightning and now they just made her an object to ogle at instead of a character to identify with. 

Sparky04
...because you can't do both?
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#60 Nengo_Flow
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lolJRPGs.faizan_faizan

*sigh*

This is why JRPGs are pathetic and should die already.

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#61 finalfantasy94
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Well there it goes, the one thing they managed to do right in Final Fantasy XIII was make a compelling character in Lightning and now they just made her an object to ogle at instead of a character to identify with. 

Sparky04

This has been done for years did you just exist today. Look at comic book characters like wonder women. Just cause they are compelling or strong or watever doesint mean we wont see them being sexy modeled by someone.

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#62 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]lolJRPGs.Nengo_Flow

*sigh*

This is why JRPGs are pathetic and should die already.

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Ever heard of Persona, Fire Emblem series and Xenoblade boys?
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#63 mark1982
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Jrpgs have been doing this for years, why are so many of you surprised? These kind of outfits have appeared countless times. Especially the snes - ps1 era.
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#65 finalfantasy94
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Jrpgs have been doing this for years, why are so many of you surprised? These kind of outfits have appeared countless times. Especially the snes - ps1 era.mark1982

cause its ff13. If it was ff7 that did it people wouldint complain as much. People are just looking for more ways to complain about 13 just cause they didint like it. This is just new silly ammo.

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#66 Sparky04
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[QUOTE="Sparky04"]

Well there it goes, the one thing they managed to do right in Final Fantasy XIII was make a compelling character in Lightning and now they just made her an object to ogle at instead of a character to identify with. 

josephl64
...because you can't do both?

Showing a sexy side to a character is not a bad thing but this is very obviously out of character for Lightning and in the process diminished her interesting aspects. It's also annoying that it almost universally happens with all strong female leads. Look at comic books with any super hero woman.
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#67 silversix_
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Just make a hentai title with her and it'll sell more than the entire Final Fantasy series. She looks ugly... i dunno how can so many ppl like her, its like a dude with boobs and pink hair to make 'him' more girly
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#68 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="josephl64"][QUOTE="Sparky04"]

Well there it goes, the one thing they managed to do right in Final Fantasy XIII was make a compelling character in Lightning and now they just made her an object to ogle at instead of a character to identify with. 

Sparky04

...because you can't do both?

Showing a sexy side to a character is not a bad thing but this is very obviously out of character for Lightning and in the process diminished her interesting aspects. It's also annoying that it almost universally happens with all strong female leads. Look at comic books with any super hero woman.

Its a costume you never ever need to touch or see. So I dont see the problem. Its there for people who wanna dress her up sexy.

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#69 Gargus
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A new outfit doesnt negate the fact its made by squeenix and that they havent made a decent game in a long time.

Of course Im sure a lot of gamers will see the outfit and say "Hey that game looks pretty good. Ill buy it"

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#70 josephl64
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[QUOTE="Sparky04"][QUOTE="josephl64"] ...because you can't do both?finalfantasy94

Showing a sexy side to a character is not a bad thing but this is very obviously out of character for Lightning and in the process diminished her interesting aspects. It's also annoying that it almost universally happens with all strong female leads. Look at comic books with any super hero woman.

Its a costume you never ever need to touch or see. So I dont see the problem. Its there for people who wanna dress her up sexy.

I thought he would pick up on that, looks like I have to be more direct here, thanks for doing that for me :)
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#71 finalfantasy94
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A new outfit doesnt negate the fact its made by squeenix and that they havent made a decent game in a long time.

 

Of course Im sure a lot of gamers will see the outfit and say "Hey that game looks pretty good. Ill buy it"

Gargus

pfft when will people learn the definition of fact and opinion.

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#72 whiskeystrike
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The one thing you can always count on in a FFXIII thread is that FinalFantasy94 will be telling people they aren't allowed to have negative opinions.

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#73 finalfantasy94
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The one thing you can always count on in a FFXIII thread is that FinalFantasy94 will be telling people they aren't allowed to have negative opinions.

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No they can have negative opinoin but claiming them as fact is just silly.I enjoy the games but I dont go around saying its the truth. just my opinion. Also I was just stating that people who didint like the game will use anything and I mean anything case in point this silly outfit to call it crap. This you cant deny. I mean for heavens sakes its just a costume. 

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#74 bobcheeseball
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Playing through FF13 for the first time right now... what the fvck happened
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#75 Sparky04
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Sparky04"] Showing a sexy side to a character is not a bad thing but this is very obviously out of character for Lightning and in the process diminished her interesting aspects. It's also annoying that it almost universally happens with all strong female leads. Look at comic books with any super hero woman.josephl64

Its a costume you never ever need to touch or see. So I dont see the problem. Its there for people who wanna dress her up sexy.

I thought he would pick up on that, looks like I have to be more direct here, thanks for doing that for me :)

I am aware that the costumes are optional and it still bothers me because it is so prevalent that female characters HAVE to be sexed up at some point. You just don't see this for male characters at all and it is a big reason why the majority of gamers are male. This is going beyond the topic at hand but the root of what I am bothered about is that it is rare to find a female character who does not exist to please the player or the reader or the viewer but instead exists to tell her story or experience, Lightning was a good example of a character who did and now it actually does feel diminished to me because there is canon that breaks character just to please the crowd.
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#76 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

It kind of sucks that they're using VSXIII as their next gen kick off though.  I was hoping for something to surprise us with FFXV, not the same game we've been seeing in development for the past 7 years.

ConanTheStoner

They probably developed it along with *gasp* XV-II and Noctis Return.

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Oh, and Stellar Return as well :o, :lol:
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#77 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="josephl64"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Its a costume you never ever need to touch or see. So I dont see the problem. Its there for people who wanna dress her up sexy.

Sparky04

I thought he would pick up on that, looks like I have to be more direct here, thanks for doing that for me :)

I am aware that the costumes are optional and it still bothers me because it is so prevalent that female characters HAVE to be sexed up at some point. You just don't see this for male characters at all and it is a big reason why the majority of gamers are male. This is going beyond the topic at hand but the root of what I am bothered about is that it is rare to find a female character who does not exist to please the player or the reader or the viewer but instead exists to tell her story or experience, Lightning was a good example of a character who did and now it actually does feel diminished to me because there is canon that breaks character just to please the crowd.

Well yea eventually female characters in any form of media eventually gets sexed up here and there but its drawn by guys so its bound to happen. As long as it doesint lessen thier character I dont find a problem with it. As you agreed its an optional costume. So how does that make it canon. I dont think there will be some big cutscene where she transform into it while in story.

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#78 Sparky04
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[QUOTE="Sparky04"][QUOTE="josephl64"] I thought he would pick up on that, looks like I have to be more direct here, thanks for doing that for me :)finalfantasy94

I am aware that the costumes are optional and it still bothers me because it is so prevalent that female characters HAVE to be sexed up at some point. You just don't see this for male characters at all and it is a big reason why the majority of gamers are male. This is going beyond the topic at hand but the root of what I am bothered about is that it is rare to find a female character who does not exist to please the player or the reader or the viewer but instead exists to tell her story or experience, Lightning was a good example of a character who did and now it actually does feel diminished to me because there is canon that breaks character just to please the crowd.

Well yea eventually female characters in any form of media eventually gets sexed up here and there but its drawn by guys so its bound to happen. As long as it doesint lessen thier character I dont find a problem with it. As you agreed its an optional costume. So how does that make it canon. I dont think there will be some big cutscene where she transform into it while in story.

I like to think that the canon in a game is mostly centered around when you are actually playing it and less about the cutscenes in between since that is the unique aspect of games, it gives you time to work to see what the characters are capable of and is one of the reasons I like games so much.
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#79 Chutebox
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Serious?

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#80 josephl64
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Sparky04"] I am aware that the costumes are optional and it still bothers me because it is so prevalent that female characters HAVE to be sexed up at some point. You just don't see this for male characters at all and it is a big reason why the majority of gamers are male. This is going beyond the topic at hand but the root of what I am bothered about is that it is rare to find a female character who does not exist to please the player or the reader or the viewer but instead exists to tell her story or experience, Lightning was a good example of a character who did and now it actually does feel diminished to me because there is canon that breaks character just to please the crowd.Sparky04

Well yea eventually female characters in any form of media eventually gets sexed up here and there but its drawn by guys so its bound to happen. As long as it doesint lessen thier character I dont find a problem with it. As you agreed its an optional costume. So how does that make it canon. I dont think there will be some big cutscene where she transform into it while in story.

I like to think that the canon in a game is mostly centered around when you are actually playing it and less about the cutscenes in between since that is the unique aspect of games, it gives you time to work to see what the characters are capable of and is one of the reasons I like games so much.

then wouldn't you agree that it wouldn't be canon for you if you don't use that optional costume?
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#81 SambaLele
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I'm into anime and JRPGs, but that's just creepy.

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#82 ReadingRainbow4
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Just execute the hag already.

So sick of her.

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#83 Joedgabe
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What ever happened to Final Fantasy being about an adventure about saving the world? Now it's turning out like Anime's with corny ecchi moments to reel in pervs. Sadly it's just killing them instead of having a broader appeal and loosing what ever dignity it had left. On the other hand.. i'm playing FF5 for the First Time.. and that old ass game has a much better game play and story than these junk they're dishing out. How could they fall sooo low ?

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#84 Chris_Williams
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Final Fantasy is nothing but fan service at this point

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#85 ReadingRainbow4
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What ever happened to Final Fantasy being about an adventure about saving the world? Now it's turning out like Anime's with corny ecchi moments to reel in pervs. Sadly it's just killing them instead of having a broader appeal and loosing what ever dignity it had left. On the other hand.. i'm playing FF5 for the First Time.. and that old ass game has a much better game play and story than these junk they're dishing out. How could they fall sooo low ?

Joedgabe

It's just not the same company anymore, all they make is medicore shit now.

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#86 DrRockso87
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I suddenly erected great respect and love for Lightning.

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#87 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Jrpgs have been doing this for years, why are so many of you surprised? These kind of outfits have appeared countless times. Especially the snes - ps1 era.mark1982

Your avatar and sig are sexy

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#88 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Final Fantasy is nothing but fan service at this point

Chris_Williams

Fan service would mean they're doing what fans ask adn want. What fans want are for them to get away from XIII and give us something new

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#89 bobcheeseball
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What ever happened to Final Fantasy being about an adventure about saving the world? Now it's turning out like Anime's with corny ecchi moments to reel in pervs. Sadly it's just killing them instead of having a broader appeal and loosing what ever dignity it had left. On the other hand.. i'm playing FF5 for the First Time.. and that old ass game has a much better game play and story than these junk they're dishing out. How could they fall sooo low ?

Joedgabe
ditto with Final Fantasy 4. I'm playing through 4 and 13 at the same time right now...FF4 is leagues better than FF13, and it doesn't have such awful cringe inducing writing which also helps.
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#90 GreySeal9
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Wow, that costume is so whack. It doesn't even fit the character. :?

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#91 finalstar2007
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needs bikini Lighting!

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#92 finalstar2007
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..freedomfreak

*looks at sig*

i was going to say finally a good and sexy sig but remembered isnt the character in ur sig supposed to be a male?

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]..finalstar2007

*looks at sig*

i was going to say finally a good and sexy sig but remembered isnt the character in ur sig supposed to be a male?

Hermaphrodite. She rocks.
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#94 WiiMan21
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Well... Okay :P

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she looks like a emo junkie.
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#96 Ballroompirate
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Love it how SE is like "you'll like the new Lightning", sorry but making her wear skimpy clothing does not = people liking her more.

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#97 Capitan_Kid
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There sure are lot of stupid generalizations about a game they've never played or understand in this topic.
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Love it how SE is like "you'll like the new Lightning", sorry but making her wear skimpy clothing does not = people liking her more.

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Disagree.
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#99 ReadingRainbow4
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Love it how SE is like "you'll like the new Lightning", sorry but making her wear skimpy clothing does not = people liking her more.

Ballroompirate

SE trying to pimp lightning out, lol.

They legitmately sound hurt that 13's reception didn't go as planned, I think it really threw a wrench into their gameplan.

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#100 Capitan_Kid
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Love it how SE is like "you'll like the new Lightning", sorry but making her wear skimpy clothing does not = people liking her more.

Ballroompirate
You know this outfit is just a promotion for FF14 right? It's not that big of a deal and she has a gazillion other outfits to choose from.