Final Fantasy 16 meets expectations!

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Congratulations to Square Enix! 🥳

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#2  Edited By hardwenzen
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Give me a sec, i'll open the gates for texas.

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#3 Nonstop-Madness
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Oh cmon, not this again.

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Square: It met expectations.

Analysts: But did it really?

Square: Yes.

Analysts: Yeah, no.

Gamers:

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#4 Silentchief
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FF16 sold 3 million on one platform in less than a week. That's pretty impressive. The problem is Forspoken was a massive flop and FF16 needed to sell well above expectations to pull SquareEnix out of the hole.

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@silentchief said:

FF16 sold 3 million on one platform in less than a week. That's pretty impressive. The problem is Forspoken was a massive flop and FF16 needed to sell well above expectations to pull SquareEnix out of the hole.

Yeah. Square hurt themselves by publishing multiple flops in the span of three years.

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#6 Mesome713
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That damage control.

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#7 R4gn4r0k
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Knowing how high Square Enix expectations are:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/03/surprise-forspoken-and-other-square-enix-games-didnt-meet-sales-expectations

https://www.eurogamer.net/tomb-raider-has-sold-3-4-million-copies-failed-to-hit-expectations

https://www.gamezone.com/news/tomb-raider-hitman-absolution-and-sleeping-dogs-fail-to-meet-company-expectations/

...

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#8 Litchie
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Yay! Or something. I don't know. What?

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#9 templecow90999
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Final Fantasy 7 Remake released on April 10 2020 for PS4 and December 16 2021 for PC.

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is releasing on February 29 2024, and could be on "other formats" as soon as May 29 2024.

https://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-is-nearly-100-hours-long-says-director/

Either Sony isn't paying as much for exclusivity, or SE is needing this game to sell a lot, and fast.

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#10 SOedipus  Online
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GOTY

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#11 Archangel3371
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Well considering I enjoyed the game very much I would say that it met my expectations for it. 😎

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#12 PCLover1980
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The game might've met expectations, but Squenix still lost 2 billion buckaroos.

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#13 Mozelleple112
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This game actually surpassed my expectations. I had zero respect or for Square Enix after making FF13, FF14 and FF15 lol

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#14 dabear
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@SolidGame_basic: Was this worthy of a new thread? I think not.

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#15 SolidGame_basic
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@Archangel3371 said:

Well considering I enjoyed the game very much I would say that it met my expectations for it. 😎

@Mozelleple112 said:

This game actually surpassed my expectations. I had zero respect or for Square Enix after making FF13, FF14 and FF15 lol

Agreed. I mean, I had super high expectations for it, and though it didn’t meet all of them, still a great game. Hopefully the DLC makes it even better.

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#16 Pedro
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The damage control for this game is splendid. 2 billion dollars splendid.😂

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#17 Macutchi
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still got it sat in plastic waiting to be opened and played. remnant 2 refusing to share my (currently limited) gaming time with it

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#18 Pedro
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@Macutchi said:

still got it sat in plastic waiting to be opened and played. remnant 2 refusing to share my (currently limited) gaming time with it

Probably you are trying to avoid a bad experience.😅

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#19 Macutchi
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@Pedro: dont say that pedro i was hoping it was good! im not a ff fan but heard this was much more combat focused and had some epic encounters, seemed much more up my street so took a punt when the price took a big dip. is that what you legit think - bad experience?

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#20  Edited By Pedro
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@Macutchi said:

@Pedro: dont say that pedro i was hoping it was good! im not a ff fan but heard this was much more combat focused and had some epic encounters, seemed much more up my street so took a punt when the price took a big dip. is that what you legit think - bad experience?

I genuinely hope you enjoy the game. Some folks seem to be pleased with the game.👍🏽

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#21  Edited By ShadyAcshuns
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Well, that's a lie.

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#22 JoshRMeyer  Online
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It was a good game but Remnant 2 took over now and haven't been back to it since. I think most of the hate for it just came because it was an actual exclusive (not a fake console exclusive like MS has been releasing). So Lems and hermits have gone full force hating it.

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#23  Edited By Last_Lap
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@Macutchi: Good to see you're still playing Remnant 2.

@joshrmeyer: I'm a lem and I'm not hating it, but turning the game into a hack n slash game makes me never want to play it.

Good to see you're playing the real GOTY, I'm currently been back playing it. 160hrs in and counting.

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#24  Edited By PCGamerLaszlo
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I'm waiting on the PC release and I'll get the game. I imagine square is expediting the release to cover costs after the recent profit statement they released.

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#25 SecretPolice
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Nothing like having low expectations. lol :P

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@Pedro said:

The damage control for this game is splendid. 2 billion dollars splendid.😂

Felt like posting some Dr Evil

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#27  Edited By Miquella
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Typical damage control

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#28 Jag85
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Pretty much what I was saying before. FF16 fell within their range of expectations. Because they said it didn't reach the higher end of those expectations, certain media pundits tried to spin it as below expectations. It's like they failed maths and don't understand the concept of a range.

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#29  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@Jag85 said:

Pretty much what I was saying before. FF16 fell within their range of expectations. Because they said it didn't reach the higher end of those expectations, certain media pundits tried to spin it as below expectations. It's like they failed maths and don't understand the concept of a range.

and Final Fantasy games have legs, they will continue to sell for a very long time.

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#30 lamprey263
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Seems like double speak but can't knock him for it as that's his job, and more so when the stock price is plummeting. I doubt SE expected FFXVI to sell only 3 million when they made their PS5 exclusivity arrangement, but they probably "expected" that when they sober-mindedly ousted previous leadership.

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#31 Chutebox
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@lamprey263: Who said FFXVI has only sold 3 million?

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#32 LuxuryHeart
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Then Square Enix needs to show us the numbers.

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#33 hardwenzen
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Thing is, their expections were 800k copies sold.🙃

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#34 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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I'm kinda bummed it flopped, as I really like it.

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@kvallyx said:

I'm kinda bummed it flopped, as I really like it.

In what way?

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@R4gn4r0k said:

Knowing how high Square Enix expectations are:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/03/surprise-forspoken-and-other-square-enix-games-didnt-meet-sales-expectations

https://www.eurogamer.net/tomb-raider-has-sold-3-4-million-copies-failed-to-hit-expectations

https://www.gamezone.com/news/tomb-raider-hitman-absolution-and-sleeping-dogs-fail-to-meet-company-expectations/

...

My first thought upon reading this thread was, "Well, they've probably finally lowered their expectations in order to meet them." LOOOOOOOL

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#37 Jag85
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@ermacness said:
@kvallyx said:

I'm kinda bummed it flopped, as I really like it.

In what way?

FF16 was profitable at launch, so it's a hit... But System Wars has its own bizarre definition of "flop".

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#38 Saint-George
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it didn't until Sony paid them to put out this statement

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#39 TheEroica  Moderator
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Isn't this the game they're only selling on one platform? Shame... Terrible business move too.

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#40 pmanden
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What is good about FF16, 15 and 13?

Nothing I can think of.

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#41 JoshRMeyer  Online
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@TheEroica: Tell Nintendo that too. Then again, it's the only reason I bought a Switch. Seems to be a decent business move for them.

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#42 JoshRMeyer  Online
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@pmanden: 14's where it's at. Was hoping 16 would be a single player version of 14. Not even close. Still decent, just not what I expected.

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@Jag85 said:

FF16 was profitable at launch, so it's a hit... But System Wars has its own bizarre definition of "flop".

It failed to meet Squares expectations, and flopped sadly. Hopefully they do better next time!

@pmanden said:

What is good about FF16, 15 and 13?

Nothing I can think of.

I love the game play in FF16, I am totally engrossed in the game. I am on chapter 50 of 68 now, and other than some long drawn out cut scenes and fetch quests, it's a good game.

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@pmanden: FF15 is good at the first half. It spiralled out of control on the 2nd half. Too bad its quite promising.

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#45 ermacness
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@Jag85 said:
@ermacness said:
@kvallyx said:

I'm kinda bummed it flopped, as I really like it.

In what way?

FF16 was profitable at launch, so it's a hit... But System Wars has its own bizarre definition of "flop".

even by SW standards it’s not a flop. It scored a 9 here so he must have some twisted meaning of the word “flop” going on in his head.

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#46 Jag85
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@kvallyx said:
@Jag85 said:

FF16 was profitable at launch, so it's a hit... But System Wars has its own bizarre definition of "flop".

It failed to meet Squares expectations, and flopped sadly. Hopefully they do better next time!

Nope. I already explained how it met expectations earlier:

@Jag85 said:

Pretty much what I was saying before. FF16 fell within their range of expectations. Because they said it didn't reach the higher end of those expectations, certain media pundits tried to spin it as below expectations. It's like they failed maths and don't understand the concept of a range.

The problem lies with clickbait journalists who failed maths in school and don't know what a "range" is.

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#47  Edited By Mesome713
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@Jag85: Well when you expect the game to flop and it does flop, you meet expectations. Square said they expected low sales due to PS5 having small install base and them accepting money from Sony to block Microsoft.

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#48 Jag85
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@mesome713: We already went over this before. They already made a profit in launch week. 3M sales at $70 in the first week translates to over $200M revenue. That's more than enough to cover all the game's expenses. Anything sold after launch week is pure profit.

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#49 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@mesome713 said:

@Jag85: Well when you expect the game to flop and it does flop, you meet expectations. Square said they expected low sales due to PS5 having small install base and them accepting money from Sony to block Microsoft.

Nailed it. Now we know why FF has committed to go multiplatform going forward. Sony hasn't given them enough moneyhatting...

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